the way gov'ts work now cannot continue in the face of complete communication. this is another example of a long string we'll see where the Internet is curtailed. Lots and lots of people all talking and figuring out the truth about what governements really do is a BAD THING for those in power. Expect to see more and more of this.
in my experience, there are 2 completely differnt types of sys admins:
- ones who think computers are their clients - ones who think people are their clients
both have their plusses and minuses. it seems that some people fit one camp - other people fit into the other camp, and they don't easily change. personally I prefer the sys admins who focus on the people first, and get the computers to meet their needs. I'd make sure in your case you know the expectations of the people who you work for and work with and see if you fit their expectations.
I would guess from your post, and the fact you wanted input from a large group of people on/. you are more the "people first type"
tech people need to band together and make a MUTUAL BENEFIT tech company -- one where the goal is not to profit from the world but to provide solutions for members to get around problems like this.
Has anyone else noticed a significant maturation in the capabilities and professionalism of open source projects? Just over the last 6-12 months I'm seeing a steady stream now of major software classes all being copied rather well by open source teams. Before this, my general rule was that open source was buggy and alpha (with notable exceptions - kernel, apache, openof^H^H^...) -- but seeing this story, reminds me that maybe RMS's vision will come true.
it's posts like this that make me wish the moderation system on/. was just a little bit more flexible for rewarding and promoting really great posts -- maybe something like after a post reaches +5, mod points are counted 5 for 1 until the post gets to +10.
i love it when people keep missing the difference between data and physical things.
to "lose" a physical thing mean you don't have it and (maybe) someon else does, or it's missing
to "lose" data means you do or don't still have it but someon else certainly does have it
this an important, and subtle difference, and why there is such a huge series of arguments over IP
saying that one "can't lose" biometric data misses the OP's point. one certainly can lose biometric data. if I put my fingerprints on the glass the fed gives me during the interrogation, I've lost my biometric fingerprint data to them
Sorry, it's not that easy. Two problems with this. First, the class of workers that work for/in the gov.t is a huge group, and we have every reason to believe that this class will grow in size.
Second, you run a slippery slope accepting things you disagree with, even if they don't affect you personally. If it's OK for gov't workers, next it will be OK for everyone. Next everyone will need a biometric ID to use a bank, or travel. Next if you have an outstanding issue with the government, -- oops, no money, can't travel, you're outta-luck buddy. Next Canada will say -- it's OK in the US, we should do that here. etc etc etc...
The world needs more people with your understanding and convicition. I too will not be getting another passport (when my current one runs out) or any biometrically - linked ID card if the current trends continue. I will chose not to drive to avoid this.
This is yet another example of where technology advances will support inflexibilty in rule enforcement. (other examples include red-light camera, DRM, etc.) In each example, human judgement is being taken out of the loop in the enforcement of a particular rule. Next it will be a machine that decides if you are who you say you are, not a person looking at you, knowing you, or judging the picture on a badge. This is yet another hook in someone that brings us a step closer to the possibility of tyranny.
As long as all the rules are fair, equally enforced, and democratically supported -- then there is no problem with machines enforcing the rules. The problem is that more often than not, none of these factors apply and rarely do any of them apply. Rules are often created arbitrarily by property owners / corporations (like EULAs), supported by small fractions of the people they affect (speeding laws), or simply conflict with other accepted rules (copyright/DRM and fair use).
Trolls don't, as a general rule, get anything tangible for their troubles everyone gets something for their actions, or they don't do them. even if it's avoid pain or addressing their own shit, or feeling better by having the disorder of the world match the disorder in themselves.
twisted sense of humor no, trolling is a desire to disrupt and destroy, which is probably also highly correlated with unhealthy humor.
those rights don't even start on about rights. the only reason we need rights is because the larger group around us wants to paint us fully with wrongs. I want to live in a world where I DONT NEED RIGHTS. the world works ina way that we don't need to carve out protections -- they are the rules of interaction, not the exceptions.
That's a philosophical position, NOT a natural one. what is your point? no one has ever said we need to choose by anything natural. humans clearly are not now living in a ntural state.
As long as we have the hubris and power to shape our world to our whim, why NOT shape to one where people have a happy existence?
but as far as reality is concerned, it's a pipe dream everything is a pipe dream to the ignorant. open your mind and stop trying to keep other people closed.
I can't belive htis was modded as INSIGHTFUL. it is horrifying how much people have bought the myths we spout.
No, the food people CHOOSE TO EAT isn't as good. If we all demanded good food, then companies who w choice is only partially concious, and only partially under ones control. it's not that simple.
Could also be related to the fact that we can actually detect those things now, whereas 100 years you dont know what your talking about. go do your research before you spout on topics where your ingonrance clearly shows.
Wow, do you actually read what you write? Do you have any idea how many people went to college 100 years ago? 95-100% of them were pretty much rich. college is mostly still a scam, a nessecary one for most people, but still a scam. why? kids are not given any ability to group up until 18, so college is another buffer to give people time to acclimate to this absurd society we have. it keeps people out of the workforce longer. it gives them "skills" which they should have learned long before, but didn't because both parents work and we put so little into really educating our children. these skills they only need to work in jobs that, for the most part, do NOT advance the human condition, rather they are the only ones available -- mostly all focused on keeping our systems running. (marketing, sales, accounting, etc etc etc)
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this world is what people make it to be. if you are not interested in making things better, then keep it to yourself. others that are interested will move around you and wait for you to die off.
It will be hard workers and very smart people taking care of lazy people, who do not care.
I say there are no "lazy" people. there are unmotivated people. there are emotionally broken people. there are even depressed and non-functioning people. Mostly, these situations are created by the environment, not something intrinsic to the person. we have hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that created an amazing piece of biochemical equipment. I don't think it's possible for anyone to make a choice to fester and become a burden. If people had real choice about how to contribute, they all would.
I would have to agree. on slide 23, of one of the PDF, his title is "Einstein's Mistake"
Sorry, but the theories of Einstein have revolutionized human understaqnding and withstood ? 80 years or so of tests. Until Alex has his face on the cover of Time magazine AND gives the plenary session at the APS meeting -- he can let other people say he found "the" mistakes in Einstein's work.
very funny. I know for a FACT that they are breaking the law. after reviewing all the applicable seat belt laws in the NATION trying to get out of my own f#$%ing $90 ticket... a peace officer will make their afternoon a rotten day in hell^H^H^H heck if he catches them.
the "odds" only apply if you pick randomly from all possibilities. so, if it's 1 it 33 trillion - don't pick randomly, it won't work.
also, and more important to the thread: if I were creating a mix-n-match physical security technology, then there is a huge similarity to one-time pads; the reason this is interesting is that you can have a unique sequence, or even better a mix of unique sequences on EACH BALL. this is roughly equivalent to putting a difficult to read, long random number on each ball.
I have not looked at the company, but the business model here is in service - to do the authentication because once you've tagged something, you are the only one with the information on what you put on them. you hold on to it, and charge to test physical items.
There is ALWAYS another troll, someone who wants to maliciously sow dissent just to provoke a reaction
I disagree on "always"... under our current society rules, yes, but humans will stop making trolls when the purpose for our lives is to create a good and happy life for all people, and not "get all we can for ourself" ruleset we follow now.
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the way gov'ts work now cannot continue in the face of complete communication. this is another example of a long string we'll see where the Internet is curtailed. Lots and lots of people all talking and figuring out the truth about what governements really do is a BAD THING for those in power. Expect to see more and more of this.
in my experience, there are 2 completely differnt types of sys admins:
/. you are more the "people first type"
- ones who think computers are their clients
- ones who think people are their clients
both have their plusses and minuses. it seems that some people fit one camp - other people fit into the other camp, and they don't easily change. personally I prefer the sys admins who focus on the people first, and get the computers to meet their needs. I'd make sure in your case you know the expectations of the people who you work for and work with and see if you fit their expectations.
I would guess from your post, and the fact you wanted input from a large group of people on
Good luck!
I think Red Bull would be the one that gives you wings and flying.
I agree, and IF IP systems had remainied in the limited state where they started, they do promote idea exchange.
The state of IP protection must change or be eliminated to have any hope of people maintaining the colloquially understood meaning of "freedom".
tech people need to band together and make a MUTUAL BENEFIT tech company -- one where the goal is not to profit from the world but to provide solutions for members to get around problems like this.
Has anyone else noticed a significant maturation in the capabilities and professionalism of open source projects? Just over the last 6-12 months I'm seeing a steady stream now of major software classes all being copied rather well by open source teams. Before this, my general rule was that open source was buggy and alpha (with notable exceptions - kernel, apache, openof^H^H^...) -- but seeing this story, reminds me that maybe RMS's vision will come true.
it's posts like this that make me wish the moderation system on /. was just a little bit more flexible for rewarding and promoting really great posts -- maybe something like after a post reaches +5, mod points are counted 5 for 1 until the post gets to +10.
holy perl scripts batman!!
FTEF (from the entry form):
(Limited to 25 entries per day)
Privacy interests and profit motive will set Google against it's users, and it will limit it's growth. Reading *on* the redlines shows that plainly.
Simple, but true.
i love it when people keep missing the difference between data and physical things.
to "lose" a physical thing mean you don't have it and (maybe) someon else does, or it's missing
to "lose" data means you do or don't still have it but someon else certainly does have it
this an important, and subtle difference, and why there is such a huge series of arguments over IP
saying that one "can't lose" biometric data misses the OP's point. one certainly can lose biometric data. if I put my fingerprints on the glass the fed gives me during the interrogation, I've lost my biometric fingerprint data to them
Just don't apply for a government job
Sorry, it's not that easy. Two problems with this. First, the class of workers that work for/in the gov.t is a huge group, and we have every reason to believe that this class will grow in size.
Second, you run a slippery slope accepting things you disagree with, even if they don't affect you personally. If it's OK for gov't workers, next it will be OK for everyone. Next everyone will need a biometric ID to use a bank, or travel. Next if you have an outstanding issue with the government, -- oops, no money, can't travel, you're outta-luck buddy. Next Canada will say -- it's OK in the US, we should do that here. etc etc etc...
The world needs more people with your understanding and convicition. I too will not be getting another passport (when my current one runs out) or any biometrically - linked ID card if the current trends continue. I will chose not to drive to avoid this.
This is yet another example of where technology advances will support inflexibilty in rule enforcement. (other examples include red-light camera, DRM, etc.) In each example, human judgement is being taken out of the loop in the enforcement of a particular rule. Next it will be a machine that decides if you are who you say you are, not a person looking at you, knowing you, or judging the picture on a badge. This is yet another hook in someone that brings us a step closer to the possibility of tyranny.
As long as all the rules are fair, equally enforced, and democratically supported -- then there is no problem with machines enforcing the rules. The problem is that more often than not, none of these factors apply and rarely do any of them apply. Rules are often created arbitrarily by property owners / corporations (like EULAs), supported by small fractions of the people they affect (speeding laws), or simply conflict with other accepted rules (copyright/DRM and fair use).
I have to agree with you, but obviously, I'm biased.
... the madness of crouds
_ the_madness_of_crowds_1.html
as to why?
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/01/digging
analyze this post
http://www.craigslist.org/pen/m4w/130536547.html
Trolls don't, as a general rule, get anything tangible for their troubles
everyone gets something for their actions, or they don't do them. even if it's avoid pain or addressing their own shit, or feeling better by having the disorder of the world match the disorder in themselves.
twisted sense of humor
no, trolling is a desire to disrupt and destroy, which is probably also highly correlated with unhealthy humor.
those rights
don't even start on about rights. the only reason we need rights is because the larger group around us wants to paint us fully with wrongs. I want to live in a world where I DONT NEED RIGHTS. the world works ina way that we don't need to carve out protections -- they are the rules of interaction, not the exceptions.
That's a philosophical position, NOT a natural one.
what is your point? no one has ever said we need to choose by anything natural. humans clearly are not now living in a ntural state.
As long as we have the hubris and power to shape our world to our whim, why NOT shape to one where people have a happy existence?
but as far as reality is concerned, it's a pipe dream
everything is a pipe dream to the ignorant. open your mind and stop trying to keep other people closed.
I can't belive htis was modded as INSIGHTFUL. it is horrifying how much people have bought the myths we spout.
No, the food people CHOOSE TO EAT isn't as good. If we all demanded good food, then companies who w
choice is only partially concious, and only partially under ones control. it's not that simple.
Could also be related to the fact that we can actually detect those things now, whereas 100 years
you dont know what your talking about. go do your research before you spout on topics where your ingonrance clearly shows.
Wow, do you actually read what you write? Do you have any idea how many people went to college 100 years ago? 95-100% of them were pretty much rich.
college is mostly still a scam, a nessecary one for most people, but still a scam. why? kids are not given any ability to group up until 18, so college is another buffer to give people time to acclimate to this absurd society we have. it keeps people out of the workforce longer. it gives them "skills" which they should have learned long before, but didn't because both parents work and we put so little into really educating our children. these skills they only need to work in jobs that, for the most part, do NOT advance the human condition, rather they are the only ones available -- mostly all focused on keeping our systems running. (marketing, sales, accounting, etc etc etc)
---
this world is what people make it to be. if you are not interested in making things better, then keep it to yourself. others that are interested will move around you and wait for you to die off.
It will be hard workers and very smart people taking care of lazy people, who do not care.
I say there are no "lazy" people. there are unmotivated people. there are emotionally broken people. there are even depressed and non-functioning people. Mostly, these situations are created by the environment, not something intrinsic to the person. we have hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that created an amazing piece of biochemical equipment. I don't think it's possible for anyone to make a choice to fester and become a burden. If people had real choice about how to contribute, they all would.
I would have to agree. on slide 23, of one of the PDF, his title is "Einstein's Mistake"
Sorry, but the theories of Einstein have revolutionized human understaqnding and withstood ? 80 years or so of tests. Until Alex has his face on the cover of Time magazine AND gives the plenary session at the APS meeting -- he can let other people say he found "the" mistakes in Einstein's work.
THIS IS THE SLASHDOT IMAGE I GOT TO POST THIS::::
http://216.218.240.161/files/e0aa215b.jpg
too funny
there are many different utpoian visions, and yes some are stagnant. not all.
ha ha
very funny. I know for a FACT that they are breaking the law. after reviewing all the applicable seat belt laws in the NATION trying to get out of my own f#$%ing $90 ticket... a peace officer will make their afternoon a rotten day in hell^H^H^H heck if he catches them.
DUH
they probably won't putthe same sequence on every one
see my post above
more than likely they have a unique sequence or mix of sequences on each ball
a few points
the "odds" only apply if you pick randomly from all possibilities. so, if it's 1 it 33 trillion - don't pick randomly, it won't work.
also, and more important to the thread: if I were creating a mix-n-match physical security technology, then there is a huge similarity to one-time pads; the reason this is interesting is that you can have a unique sequence, or even better a mix of unique sequences on EACH BALL. this is roughly equivalent to putting a difficult to read, long random number on each ball.
I have not looked at the company, but the business model here is in service - to do the authentication because once you've tagged something, you are the only one with the information on what you put on them. you hold on to it, and charge to test physical items.
There is ALWAYS another troll, someone who wants to maliciously sow dissent just to provoke a reaction
I disagree on "always"