Is the same for Linux, OS X, Solaris or CICS, at least from the standpoint of a workforce who has used nothing other than Windows.
I do find it very interesting that these stories are all over the place lately. "Apple is ready for the enterprise". This makes what now, 5 or six in the past month alone? They always open with "IT managers are tired of spyware", as if spyware was a problem in large corporations (the targets of these articles), they always proceed to dismiss Linux as an alternative... could it have something to do with the release of Vista? Naaaah. Now if this were articles targetting Apple then of course Microsoft would be behind them.
Obviously they screwed up on the 1.5 RTM where now apparently they'll quarantine the whole PST file (don't get me started on the "one huge fucking file for everything" mentality...), but AFAICT OneCare does not delete the file. The problem is that it essentially hides it under [C:\Documents and Settings\All Users]\Application Data\Microsoft\OneCare Protection\Quarantine, compressed in a.CAB file and not accessible from a non-admin account. But if you can log into the machine with an admin account, you can recover the file, and turn off OneCare scanning of your mail file for good measure.
Then, get a good AV package - or better yet, just exercise some fucking common sense and don't open that "Re: Malaca Superfund Stranded" email from "Roberta Plantagenet~=%" that has a "postcard.exe" attachment.
No, Mr. Gates is not interested in US job creation, he's interested in lower operating costs for [Microsoft].
I'm sorry twitter, but how is this any different than any other corporation in existence again?
Instead his shadow hangs over every tech start up and has discouraged everyone, much to the detriment of his business model.
Um, the tech startup ecosystem seems just fine to me right now and for the past 10 years. And what does "to the detriment of his business model" even mean here??
His business model has always been to buy the "loss leader"
And this is different from Google (Picasa, Blogger, etc), Yahoo (de.licio.us, etc), or the literally hundreds of companies IBM has gobbled over the past twenty years? I'm sorry twitter but here Microsoft (oh, "M$") is hardly unique.
Far from creating new jobs, his approach has destroyed existing jobs
Any child can tell you that the Windows monopoly has generated millions of jobs and enormous wealth over the past 30 years. WTF?
Now, as people with any sense are avoiding tech like the outsource prone disaster it is, Mr. Gates finds himself unable to "innovate" cheaply.
This doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.
As to the title of your post, why exactly do you feel Microsoft should "care" about your job? Or mine? Or anyone else's?
Every programmer out there who lived through the depression in our industry of 2001-2005
It wasn't a depression - it was a correction. The bubble burst on a million stupid overpriced and underdeveloped "products" created by "developers" who got $50K out of highschool because they knew how to spell "HTML". Frankly, I was happy to see them go back to whatever it was they were doing before.
Further, the "depression" wasn't specific to IT, nor was the IT industry the only one affected. You make it sound like you and your friends were the only ones who got shafted in 2001. And it ended in 2005? Give me a break, in most large to mid-sized markets the bloodletting was over by late 2002 to early 2003.
I'm sure you'll be gettin lots of karma tonight since the mods seem to like your "fuck Bill Gates" stance and seem to be modding down anyone who questions your wisdom. I do however wonder why no one on Slashdot finds some time to question the immigration policies of companies like IBM, who layoff thousands of American developers, sysadmins, project managers and analysts and then hire hundreds of thousands of Indians and chinese to come work in the US for wages that are significantly less than the ones dictated by H1-B rules. In some cases they even hire back their old employees through consulting body shops at two thirds the cost (without any benefits whatsoever and lower salary).
At least Microsoft doesn't screw immigrants like IBM and other companies do. But IBM is the darling of the open source crowd, so mum's the word. I don't expect to see many articles around here detailing that sort of thing.
In the meantime though, it's always fun to bash Microsoft while ignoring the real problems. Take a gander at that Wikipedia article, let go of your "the corporation exists to serve me" philosphy for a second and think about what hurts this country more.
Have you found a successful gnu/linux hosted botnet outside of a lab? Take your chicken little nonsense back to Redmond
Oh flocktard-in-chief, I'm eagerly awaiting your response to dedazo. I mean, it does not get any better than your prick arrogant "well show me" and then BOOM BABY!! Go on, I'm looking forward to it, as always.
My computers are not on a "botnet". Neither are the hundreds of millions of PCs run by companies that have a sane firewall/proxy infrastructure, patch their boxes and don't give users rights they don't need over their machines. Ditto for hundreds of millions of home users as well.
If your computer is in a botnet, you are either stupid, careless, apathetic or all of the above. All you need to do is use common sense to secure your machines and your data. It's simple, really.
Now your oft-quoted number of "Windoze" machines in botnets were true, the spam shitstorm would far worse than it is. Simple scale defeats that argument - there are close to a billion personal computers running some Microsoft operating system. Not that the vast majority of botnets are not made up of Windows computers, of course they are. But two fourths or whatever that number was? Please.
Now, what does Microsoft not provide that Apple does in the context of your argument? I'm not discounting that it could be possible, but I'd like to actually hear it.
I've actually been on a Windoze upgrade slave gang for a fortune 100 bank and what I describe is how I remember it. They had some of the automated upgrade tools you mentioned, but they did not work.
They "did not work"? That's interesting because for the vast majority of people, they work just fine. Maybe your mythical "Fortune 100 bank" was staffed by people like yourself? That would explain so much.
I don't have to run eight year old versions of software
Then I suggest you stop offering up your drivel on the topic. Ultimately, you know absolutely nothing about long-term commitment to a platform if you wipe and reload with bated breath every time a new version of your pet distro is pushed out. Most of us like to get stuff done with our computers.
Leet is a concept that only applies in the non free world of secrets and bullshit.
Did you really? You're so leet. By any chance would you happen to be running an eight-year old version of Linux?
Mechanisms, like the Windows registry, are so bad
Oh the registry is teh gummed up! Think of the children!!
other businesses do trivial things like change out versions of text editors
No twitter, actually they do a lot more than that. Across tens of thousands of workstations of servers. Across countries. Every day. Using technologies like WMI and enterprise policies that Linux distros, BSD or OS X can't even begin to dream about. But then, I seem to remember you claimed any enterprise could be run on a 486, so never mind that.
It's a process that's excruciatingly manual... with each person able to do less than ten machines a night
Bullshit. Do you even *believe* this crap you write? You've never had a job in a real company with more than 100 machines, so do us all a favor and just don't share your opinion on things like these. OK? Thanks.
Oh, BTW - could I interest you in browsing this story at +3? It gets interesting. Maybe you want to inform yourself instead of just sit there and blabber about things you don't understand. Don't take it from me, take it from all your "peers".
The whole point of a distro is that people who know more than you do have encapsulated that knowledge
Knowledge that was not readily available to me. Google for "Ubuntu nvidia". I *never* found a single reference to the "restricted" bullshit, and more importantly it conflicted with nVidia's recommendation that said repositories be disabled. Shoot me, I'm more used to trusting the manufacturer.
Obviously, if you update x.org yourself
I didn't, apt-get fucked it up for me and dropped be back from 'nv' and glorious unaccelerated 1600x1200x24 to glorious unaccelerated 800x600. It had been a long time since I edited an X config file. In any case, I didn't shoot myself in the foot. I hadn't even started to dick around with the driver when that happened.
Similarly, after installing KDE Desktop on Ubuntu you might find some things are not as well setup as they are in Kubuntu.
Wow, I thought it just "worked". Isn't that the point of using Synaptic?
The GP is a sockpuppet of another account, which is well known for being an insane blabbering idiot who in many occasions has proudly proclaimed that he never buys "Windoze cruft boxes" from "big dumb companies", so he uses a 10-year old Thinkpad with 74 virtual desktops and how superior is that to "M$ Windoze"!?
He's not telling dear old Dell to go stuff themselves, he has no interest in them whatsoever. He's just karma whoring to validate his existence. Slashdot mod points are everything to him.
Well, between updating x.org after the first install, a fucked up xorg.conf file and finding seven different ways online to install the driver, I must have taken a wrong turn somewhere. I ended up using the nVidia installer. Incidentally, it asked me if I wanted to "compile a module for my kernel". Yay!
As for KDE, meh, if you mean Kubuntu, say that..
Oh, I'm sorry. I downloaded something called "Ubuntu" and then I used apt-get to install the "KDE Desktop" metapackage or some such. I didn't know I had to put a "K" in front of it. I'll be more careful next time.
If they make it only slightly easier than brain surgery with a butter knife to install a fucking accelerated driver even, that would be super. I spent three days trying to go from "nv" to "nvidia" on Ubuntu and holy shit, that's not going to fly out there with Joe Windows. Most people don't care about "freedom" or "binary blobs", they want their computers to be responsive.
I don't know what version of KDE ships with Edgy, but it's pretty much unusable without an accelerated driver. GNOME is not so bad, but I'm thinking of falling back to XFCE now. It didn't used to be so bad in the RH9 days.
Unfortunately for you flocktard, Microsoft hardly invented software patents, they are hardly the largest holders of software patents and have never used software patents offensively.
But, you are certainly free to use your lame creative spelling and bitch about them on Slashdot. Microsoft is not the only software company in the planet, nor the only software patent holders, and certainly not the only commercial software corporation that feels threatened by free software. So while you stutter about how cool it is that "M$" is getting shafted ("the magnitude of the damage", that's rich), the groundwork is being laid down in legal precedents for someone else to shaft free software so thoroughly that in a few years you'll probably be able to have all the Linux you want - as long as it's in Chinese or Romanian. You think SCO was bad? Just wait.
In the mean time, you can feel good about yourself and all that pointless FUD you enjoy so much. Keep blabbing about "the year of Linux" and how Microsoft is oh-ever-so-close to going up in a puff of smoke. Microsoft will survive somehow because they have money. "Foundations" like Mozilla and defenseless projects will probably not.
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Now now twitter, let's not go there, OK? Do you also work for "M$"? Or not?
Isn't it amazing what a few bored ACs are able to dig up on you? Too bad they're not posting anymore...
You never did answer this, did you flocktard?
Any other predictions of Microsoft's demise, or are we done?
MS's software is broken anyway
You are so leet.
I do find it very interesting that these stories are all over the place lately. "Apple is ready for the enterprise". This makes what now, 5 or six in the past month alone? They always open with "IT managers are tired of spyware", as if spyware was a problem in large corporations (the targets of these articles), they always proceed to dismiss Linux as an alternative... could it have something to do with the release of Vista? Naaaah. Now if this were articles targetting Apple then of course Microsoft would be behind them.
Maybe it's just a big coincidence.
Then, get a good AV package - or better yet, just exercise some fucking common sense and don't open that "Re: Malaca Superfund Stranded" email from "Roberta Plantagenet~=%" that has a "postcard.exe" attachment.
No one has successfully proved that those impulses are the communication. I think they're merely part of something more complex.
I'm sorry twitter, but how is this any different than any other corporation in existence again?
Instead his shadow hangs over every tech start up and has discouraged everyone, much to the detriment of his business model.
Um, the tech startup ecosystem seems just fine to me right now and for the past 10 years. And what does "to the detriment of his business model" even mean here??
His business model has always been to buy the "loss leader"
And this is different from Google (Picasa, Blogger, etc), Yahoo (de.licio.us, etc), or the literally hundreds of companies IBM has gobbled over the past twenty years? I'm sorry twitter but here Microsoft (oh, "M$") is hardly unique.
Far from creating new jobs, his approach has destroyed existing jobs
Any child can tell you that the Windows monopoly has generated millions of jobs and enormous wealth over the past 30 years. WTF?
Now, as people with any sense are avoiding tech like the outsource prone disaster it is, Mr. Gates finds himself unable to "innovate" cheaply.
This doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.
As to the title of your post, why exactly do you feel Microsoft should "care" about your job? Or mine? Or anyone else's?
It wasn't a depression - it was a correction. The bubble burst on a million stupid overpriced and underdeveloped "products" created by "developers" who got $50K out of highschool because they knew how to spell "HTML". Frankly, I was happy to see them go back to whatever it was they were doing before.
Further, the "depression" wasn't specific to IT, nor was the IT industry the only one affected. You make it sound like you and your friends were the only ones who got shafted in 2001. And it ended in 2005? Give me a break, in most large to mid-sized markets the bloodletting was over by late 2002 to early 2003.
I'm sure you'll be gettin lots of karma tonight since the mods seem to like your "fuck Bill Gates" stance and seem to be modding down anyone who questions your wisdom. I do however wonder why no one on Slashdot finds some time to question the immigration policies of companies like IBM, who layoff thousands of American developers, sysadmins, project managers and analysts and then hire hundreds of thousands of Indians and chinese to come work in the US for wages that are significantly less than the ones dictated by H1-B rules. In some cases they even hire back their old employees through consulting body shops at two thirds the cost (without any benefits whatsoever and lower salary).
At least Microsoft doesn't screw immigrants like IBM and other companies do. But IBM is the darling of the open source crowd, so mum's the word. I don't expect to see many articles around here detailing that sort of thing.
In the meantime though, it's always fun to bash Microsoft while ignoring the real problems. Take a gander at that Wikipedia article, let go of your "the corporation exists to serve me" philosphy for a second and think about what hurts this country more.
Oh flocktard-in-chief, I'm eagerly awaiting your response to dedazo. I mean, it does not get any better than your prick arrogant "well show me" and then BOOM BABY!! Go on, I'm looking forward to it, as always.
If your computer is in a botnet, you are either stupid, careless, apathetic or all of the above. All you need to do is use common sense to secure your machines and your data. It's simple, really.
Now your oft-quoted number of "Windoze" machines in botnets were true, the spam shitstorm would far worse than it is. Simple scale defeats that argument - there are close to a billion personal computers running some Microsoft operating system. Not that the vast majority of botnets are not made up of Windows computers, of course they are. But two fourths or whatever that number was? Please.
Now, what does Microsoft not provide that Apple does in the context of your argument? I'm not discounting that it could be possible, but I'd like to actually hear it.
Well troll, since you're so sure of this, why don't you tell us what Microsoft does not provide that Apple has? That should be amusing.
Really? That's news to me. Where are you - Salt Lake City? A menonite community? A quaker town?
Pointless generalizations, really. There are 300 million people in this country.
They "did not work"? That's interesting because for the vast majority of people, they work just fine. Maybe your mythical "Fortune 100 bank" was staffed by people like yourself? That would explain so much.
I don't have to run eight year old versions of software
Then I suggest you stop offering up your drivel on the topic. Ultimately, you know absolutely nothing about long-term commitment to a platform if you wipe and reload with bated breath every time a new version of your pet distro is pushed out. Most of us like to get stuff done with our computers.
Leet is a concept that only applies in the non free world of secrets and bullshit.
You need help my man. Lots of help.
Did you really? You're so leet. By any chance would you happen to be running an eight-year old version of Linux?
Mechanisms, like the Windows registry, are so bad
Oh the registry is teh gummed up! Think of the children!!
other businesses do trivial things like change out versions of text editors
No twitter, actually they do a lot more than that. Across tens of thousands of workstations of servers. Across countries. Every day. Using technologies like WMI and enterprise policies that Linux distros, BSD or OS X can't even begin to dream about. But then, I seem to remember you claimed any enterprise could be run on a 486, so never mind that.
It's a process that's excruciatingly manual ... with each person able to do less than ten machines a night
Bullshit. Do you even *believe* this crap you write? You've never had a job in a real company with more than 100 machines, so do us all a favor and just don't share your opinion on things like these. OK? Thanks.
Oh, BTW - could I interest you in browsing this story at +3? It gets interesting. Maybe you want to inform yourself instead of just sit there and blabber about things you don't understand. Don't take it from me, take it from all your "peers".
Knowledge that was not readily available to me. Google for "Ubuntu nvidia". I *never* found a single reference to the "restricted" bullshit, and more importantly it conflicted with nVidia's recommendation that said repositories be disabled. Shoot me, I'm more used to trusting the manufacturer.
Obviously, if you update x.org yourself
I didn't, apt-get fucked it up for me and dropped be back from 'nv' and glorious unaccelerated 1600x1200x24 to glorious unaccelerated 800x600. It had been a long time since I edited an X config file. In any case, I didn't shoot myself in the foot. I hadn't even started to dick around with the driver when that happened.
Similarly, after installing KDE Desktop on Ubuntu you might find some things are not as well setup as they are in Kubuntu.
Wow, I thought it just "worked". Isn't that the point of using Synaptic?
He's not telling dear old Dell to go stuff themselves, he has no interest in them whatsoever. He's just karma whoring to validate his existence. Slashdot mod points are everything to him.
As for KDE, meh, if you mean Kubuntu, say that..
Oh, I'm sorry. I downloaded something called "Ubuntu" and then I used apt-get to install the "KDE Desktop" metapackage or some such. I didn't know I had to put a "K" in front of it. I'll be more careful next time.
Well, I guess they have to choose between their users and the "community".
I don't know what version of KDE ships with Edgy, but it's pretty much unusable without an accelerated driver. GNOME is not so bad, but I'm thinking of falling back to XFCE now. It didn't used to be so bad in the RH9 days.
Too bad he isn't using the 'twitter' account - that would have been even funnier.
Not Firefox 1.5x under a non-admin account on XPSP2, though I admit that setup, while sane, is unfortunately not really common...
Funny you link to that, because it didn't go well at all.
But, you are certainly free to use your lame creative spelling and bitch about them on Slashdot. Microsoft is not the only software company in the planet, nor the only software patent holders, and certainly not the only commercial software corporation that feels threatened by free software. So while you stutter about how cool it is that "M$" is getting shafted ("the magnitude of the damage", that's rich), the groundwork is being laid down in legal precedents for someone else to shaft free software so thoroughly that in a few years you'll probably be able to have all the Linux you want - as long as it's in Chinese or Romanian. You think SCO was bad? Just wait.
In the mean time, you can feel good about yourself and all that pointless FUD you enjoy so much. Keep blabbing about "the year of Linux" and how Microsoft is oh-ever-so-close to going up in a puff of smoke. Microsoft will survive somehow because they have money. "Foundations" like Mozilla and defenseless projects will probably not.
Fascinating. So twitter, do you support software patents now? Or do you support them only when they are used to attack Microsoft?