I never said you couldn't use it to see other feeds, and indeed that the tool can do that makes it even more useful. If it didn't, someone would probably complain about how it's a "M$-only proprietary piece of crap blah blah, I want to look at teh linux groups".
NetScan is no more evil than Google groups. It's just a different indexing and mining engine. If they had nasty intentions, why would they go through the trouble of creating that if Google is already there? Why would they make it publicly accessible? You could probably get the same analysis benefits using the Google APIs and a few Python scripts.
What I know about how the tool is used from within Microsoft is in my original post - no more, no less.
This monitoring goes on exclusively in the msnews.microsoft.com domain, plus a few others that are also run by the company. While NetScan is sometimes pointed to MS-oriented news servers (news.devx.com is an example), Microsoft is not "monitoring USENET".
Marc Smith is a very sharp guy who has done a lot of interesting work with the social dynamics of online communities. Goggle him for more info. And if you have questions about what NetScan does, give it a whirl and form your own conclusions.
At the moment, NetScan is used by the MVP program to follow members' posting history. The MVP program is not exclusive to NNTP, however.
I can't see how this goes into the "YRO" section - if Microsoft is monitoring the news servers it operates and that bothers you - don't post there. This is hardly the land of the Microsoft advocate or even user for that matter. This is like reporting that I'm painting my bedroom bright red - WTF do the neighbors care about that?
Yet another hysterical ad revenue generating headline, brought to you by the Slashdot "editors".
"In the old days, there used to be a term, 'buying your gross,' " Rick Sands, chief operating officer at Miramax, told the Los Angeles Times. "You could buy your gross for the weekend and overcome bad word of mouth, because it took time to filter out into the general audience."
Here, eat some of this shit. Don't tell anyone that it tastes like... well, shit. Our business model, you ask? As follows:
Produce crap.
Hope enough suckers buy it before it's categorized as crap.
Profit!!!
Yes, I think we just figured out step #2. Impressive!
This is just pathetic. I think it's even worse than the telephone marketers complaining about how they're livelyhood is gone because they can't piss people off whenever they want to.
Oh yeah, this "industry" is going down the drain faster than I thought. I hope it dies a fast, painful death, along with the music "industry".
michael writes "We're on a roll today with the other M$ stories and the obligatory $CO ones, so I thought I'd throw this out there to drive our ad impression rate a bit higher. After all, everyone gets the same type of email as I do. And what do you think about my editorial byline? 'Yay for trustworthy computing!'? Am I 1337 or what? HAHAHAHA!!!! m$ is teh suxx!!!1!!"
In the meantime, absolutely nothing else worth mentioning is happening in the world.
He had received more than 20 phone calls, five of them obscene. [...] he had been subscribed to a gay-dating site and his email address had been added to "tons of email lists". [...] "I have already banned my 5-year-old from answering the phone," he said.
Well, cry me a river. I'm sure that there are 5-year olds out there whose parents were a bit concerned about their kids receiving penis-enlargement emails and links to porn websites. Oh, and "tons of email lists"... I thought everything these fucks did was "opt-in"? Does he mean to insinuate that that's not the case? Bwahaha.
Cry me a river indeed. Maybe this is a good way to kill them off.
That doesn't surprise me, considering that the "editors" routinely muck around with submissions to give them more of an "edge". That pours gasoline in the zealot flames - and of course generates more ad impressions.
It used to be that people like you would post inane offtopic jokes about "M$" in every single Slashdot article. Cloned sheep? "M$ sux!" Hydroponic farming in Burma? "M$ sux" Japanese cats going to space? "M$ sux" SSH exploit? "M$ sux" Stephen king found dead? "M$ sux".
Upon upgrading the drivers for my 802.11b card (a linksys), I needed to be an administrator
Yeah, I hate it when I have to do/sbin/su to run modprobe or something. It just sucks.
I've also had trouble with CD burning (Nero) when not administrator
Windows software is notorious for requiring admin permissions when they are not really needed. Blame it on the vendor (though to be fair a lot of Microsoft products also require that. They are getting better - as of Office 2K you don't need admin rights to even install it).
That's stupidity as a result of acute ignorance. Adding normal users to the "Power users" group and then using policies to determine what tehy can do beyond their given auth level is the way that works. As of Windows 2000 there is no fucking need to have users be administrators, period.
That 90% of the IT wizards out there can't figure this tiny part out is not Microsoft's fault. They already provide the tools to do it right.
There are some cases (specifically developers) where you do need some modicum of admin permissions, but that can be worked around. Windows has a system-level service that works like su.
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aol_grl has joined #battlefield
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[aol_grl]aol_grl sends roses to sgt @-`,-`,--
[aol_grl] dont b a poop mouth!!!
[aol_grl] any1 now how2 make the mouse go faster?????? [aol_grl] my pC is *really* sloooowwww [aol_grl] whatz wolfpack??? [aol_grl] imagine a Beowulf cluster of those!!! hahahaha!!! aol_grl giggles madly
sgt has left #battlefield pvt has left #battlefield
Hahahahaha!!! OMG, that's so funny!! I havent's seen that in... hmmm. what? 8 years? HAHAHAHA!!! Gold, pure gold. Let me guess - you still run Windows95? HAHAHA!!! But seriously, you should upgrade. It's gotten better since then.
[...]the GPL has functioned as a social contract with the implicit (albeit untested) force of law behind it [...] Do you have faith in the justice system (or IBM's Lawyers) to draw the right conclusions?
If you don't have faith in the legal system to uphold your license, then why have a license "with the implicit force of law behind it" in the first place? Indeed, why have a license at all? You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
Kids lose a lot of privacy as it is the moment they set foot in school. This may be a bit extreme, but hey. You want an education?
Of course, public schools... with federal funding... complicates everything. But I don't see how it's particularly bad.
Maybe we should see it the same way we do at work - your employer has a right to read your email and put cameras on the ceiling for "security purposes". Their dime, their building, their rules.
That fix has been there for almost a month. So... shut up, please. There's nothing worse than going off on a "OMG, M$ suxx is teh gahyest!!1!!" rant when you're just plain wrong.
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NetScan is no more evil than Google groups. It's just a different indexing and mining engine. If they had nasty intentions, why would they go through the trouble of creating that if Google is already there? Why would they make it publicly accessible? You could probably get the same analysis benefits using the Google APIs and a few Python scripts.
What I know about how the tool is used from within Microsoft is in my original post - no more, no less.
- This monitoring goes on exclusively in the msnews.microsoft.com domain, plus a few others that are also run by the company. While NetScan is sometimes pointed to MS-oriented news servers (news.devx.com is an example), Microsoft is not "monitoring USENET".
- Marc Smith is a very sharp guy who has done a lot of interesting work with the social dynamics of online communities. Goggle him for more info. And if you have questions about what NetScan does, give it a whirl and form your own conclusions.
- At the moment, NetScan is used by the MVP program to follow members' posting history. The MVP program is not exclusive to NNTP, however.
- I can't see how this goes into the "YRO" section - if Microsoft is monitoring the news servers it operates and that bothers you - don't post there. This is hardly the land of the Microsoft advocate or even user for that matter. This is like reporting that I'm painting my bedroom bright red - WTF do the neighbors care about that?
Yet another hysterical ad revenue generating headline, brought to you by the Slashdot "editors".Here, eat some of this shit. Don't tell anyone that it tastes like... well, shit. Our business model, you ask? As follows:
- Produce crap.
- Hope enough suckers buy it before it's categorized as crap.
- Profit!!!
Yes, I think we just figured out step #2. Impressive!This is just pathetic. I think it's even worse than the telephone marketers complaining about how they're livelyhood is gone because they can't piss people off whenever they want to.
Oh yeah, this "industry" is going down the drain faster than I thought. I hope it dies a fast, painful death, along with the music "industry".
In the meantime, absolutely nothing else worth mentioning is happening in the world.
Um, at least two. One in my family, who has his own email address though his dad's (my cousin) dial-up account. He's 5 1/2, going on 6, IIRC.
Oh, and here's one of the abuse-sightings posts that probably did him in (Google thread).
Well, cry me a river. I'm sure that there are 5-year olds out there whose parents were a bit concerned about their kids receiving penis-enlargement emails and links to porn websites. Oh, and "tons of email lists"... I thought everything these fucks did was "opt-in"? Does he mean to insinuate that that's not the case? Bwahaha.
Cry me a river indeed. Maybe this is a good way to kill them off.
Not when it's $3,000 =)
Once again, proof that "ooohhh, shiny!" is one of the primary motivations for Apple customers to part with their hard-earned money.
It lives with the socks. The socks! Find the missing socks and you'll find the missing correspondence. Yes.
Now it's "$CO sux". EBay scams? "$CO sux".
Give it a rest. It's not working.
Yeah, I hate it when I have to do /sbin/su to run modprobe or something. It just sucks.
I've also had trouble with CD burning (Nero) when not administrator
Windows software is notorious for requiring admin permissions when they are not really needed. Blame it on the vendor (though to be fair a lot of Microsoft products also require that. They are getting better - as of Office 2K you don't need admin rights to even install it).
That 90% of the IT wizards out there can't figure this tiny part out is not Microsoft's fault. They already provide the tools to do it right.
There are some cases (specifically developers) where you do need some modicum of admin permissions, but that can be worked around. Windows has a system-level service that works like su.
Translation: "I can't articulate an intelligent response to the point you made, so I'll just call you a 'troll' and see if it sticks with the mods."
Canucks say it "Oh... Eh, Sex". Eh.
That's the good news. The bad news is the WM now eats up 300MB of memory, instead of 30.
Hahahahaha!!! OMG, that's so funny!! I havent's seen that in... hmmm. what? 8 years? HAHAHAHA!!! Gold, pure gold. Let me guess - you still run Windows95? HAHAHA!!! But seriously, you should upgrade. It's gotten better since then.
It's "Business". Hope that helps.
You shouldn't use that analogy. It compiles to "you get what you pay for - and you're no better off if you don't pay for it anyway".
Oh, and comparing free software to "charity" is also a bad idea.
Besides, "grousing" is, um, "grouse", and probably painful.
Whatever it is.
If you don't have faith in the legal system to uphold your license, then why have a license "with the implicit force of law behind it" in the first place? Indeed, why have a license at all? You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
Of course, public schools... with federal funding... complicates everything. But I don't see how it's particularly bad.
Maybe we should see it the same way we do at work - your employer has a right to read your email and put cameras on the ceiling for "security purposes". Their dime, their building, their rules.
That fix has been there for almost a month. So... shut up, please. There's nothing worse than going off on a "OMG, M$ suxx is teh gahyest!!1!!" rant when you're just plain wrong.