.. but I'm only a dumb hick, so what do I know, right?
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Well, I dunno about that, but I do know that your complaint was badly aimed. Read the post again. That last line was still in italics, it's from the poster, not timothy.
(Don't feel bad, The obviousness of the irrelevant jab made me thing the/. poster did it too. I fully expected to see CmdrTaco or something up there.)
I agree. If you are quoting sections of the document that is fair use from what I understand (Of course, IANAL) I believe another mentioned the risks in assuming responsibility for posts on this site. I agree with this as well. If you are responsible for any part of the content you are responsible for all of it. I know no-one wants to be the ones to have to go through the legal hassle to fight a bad law, but we do all get upset whenever x company chooses not to fight, we shouldn't be hypocrites now and back down ourselves.
However, I'm thinking this might not go that far. The DMCA is a bad law, but companies like MS want to keep it. My guess is they'll bluster and try to make you take it down by threatening you. But, if you stand up, there's a good chance they will back down rather than take a chance on the law being overturned in court. A lot of companies take a tack like that. If you stand up, they might back down and go after people more easily frightened.
Either way, I think/. should stick to their guns on this one. I believe in picking your battles, but this one is not a minor skirmish. The DMCA is a very big problem so any opportunity to shoot it down must be taken.
I know the head of the University's Curriculum Office, and so I asked him about it. He had this to say:
PHIL 200 is 'topics in philosophy', which is (obviously) an undergraduate course that meets tone of the 'general education' requirements. The University has *not* approved a course on the Matrix. All they've done is approved a course in 'topics', which is then left up to the dept to decide how best to use that course.
Topics courses, however, tend not to be able to be used for specific degree requirements -- always general ed electives or degree program electives.
of an online trading company that doesn't charge you for trades, but rather a percentage of the profit on your portofolio. So they only charge you if you are sucessfull. Anybody know what the name of this company is?
Hrm. I don't think it's been around long enough to be most improved. I understand you sentiments and at first was tempted to agree. And I think they certainly could use the money. But I think giving them the award would be unfair considering the amount of work mozilla has put into their project. They have slaved all year on this project in spite of people in/this/ community pooh-poohing their work. There is no comparison between mozilla and livid in the amount of work that has been done. Not that I don't appreciate the work Livid has done, and not that I don't think it's important. I just think mozilla is more deserving of this award at this point in time. I do encourage you to vote for them or for freemware for the "Most deserving of 2000$" award though. As I think either of those projects meet that category.
I think either livid or freemware would be good for this category. Livid for their defense and for the project itself which is extrememly important. And FreeMWare because we really need an open-source version of VMWare and they need the cash to continue the work.
While I love vim and think it has a great interface I'm already nominating it for best text editor. So I think mutt wins my nomination in this category.
This is a tough one. I love blueheart (E). It is great eyecandy and is very functional. But recently I discovered SpiffE. It has very small window decorations allowing me to maximize my available workspace and it's default bindings are closer to the way I work than any other theme I've tried. Which means less customization (and thus less work) for me. You can view these themes here:
Definately. Esp with the changes they've made in.16. Even relatively inexperienced linux/X users can run enlightenment and have a mostly customized setup now.
Agreed. I love perl, and I think the things php makes possible are astounding. In fact, I have done some work coding mod_perl for an ecommerce site. But I think these are individual apps in their own right that would fit better in other categories if you really want to nominate them. Apache is just the environment they run in. Esp for mod_perl.
OTOH there are some great modules that are specific apache modules that make apache better. Some that many can't live w/out. Like mod_ssl as suggested above and mod_ssi.
I think you guys are missing the obvious here. Through the founding of the Linux OS and his constant advocacy w/out extremes Linus has probably done more good for Open Source than ESR and RMS combined (assuming all positives/and/ negatives, not just the positive things)
The Apache Software Foundation exists to provide organizational, legal, and financial support for the Apache open-source software projects. Formerly known as the Apache Group, the Foundation has been incorporated as a membership-based, not-for-profit corporation in order to ensure that the Apache projects continue to exist beyond the participation of individual volunteers, to enable contributions of intellectual property and funds on a sound basis, and to provide a vehicle for limiting legal exposure while participating in open-source software projects.
Cause frankly, I don't care who is helping the current crop of lazy newbies. Matt Walsh worked on the LDP and wrote running linux. And despite the current condition of the LDP those are still two great sources of information for people new to linux that have a clue and are willing to do the work to learn linux.
Along with the name of the person who found a way to make bullet casings from ceramics. Or maybe they used paper mache for that? Look, all sarcasm aside, this has nothing to do with guns. Guns, as currently made, cannot be made from something like ceramics, or even plastic. Glocks (the guns referenced in die hard as being made of ceramic materials) have their base/grips made from a polymer. But, the rest is mostly metal. The clips have metal sides, a metal plate that feeds the ammo into the gun and a spring. The Gun has a slide which is metal (usually bar stock) a recoil spring, sear, firing pin, barrel, etc. You ever hear of making a spring capable of the force a recoil spring is required to have out of ceramic materials? How about plastic? A ceramic gun would quite simply explode the first time it was fired. Same with plastic. Won't work. Has to have some metal parts.
Now, the implementation of this does not have anything to do with searching for bombs or guns. It has to do with searching for drugs. And this is yet another piece of our liberty that we are supposed to sacrifice so we can get those drug dealers and 'save the children'. This is yet another attempt to get around the fourth amendment. Some of you have said you think this is ok. That you'd rather have that than being strip searched/etc.
Ok, so why not put these in cop cars. You know, so instead of pulling you over or aside, they can just sit in their car and check you out to see if you are packing any drugs? I mean, it's more convenient than having them pull you over and try and force you to let them conduct an illegal search right?
Actually, the 2nd ammendment was created with the idea that, if the people were as well armed as the standing army, the gov't could be periodically overthrown.
This isn't really accurate. Close, but no cigar. The second amendment was created to avoid the danger of/having/ a standing army. The american people, armed to the teeth, were to/be/ the standing army. Hopefully, if there ever/is/ an armed revolution in this country, the military will server the constitution and not the Government, as it was intended to do and american citizens won't have to defeat them.
Ok, in some ways I agree with you. There are a lot of self-proclaimed, so-called 'experts' out there flapping off at the mouth about things they have no clue or historical perspective on. And I think the Gnome vs. KDE thing was a great example. But I have to say 'vi vs. emacs' is really not a fad. It's part of the unix culture. Yes you still have flame-fests on this topic, from people who haven't been around long enough to know better, but the whole vi vs. emacs thing goes back so far as to be an integral part of the unix culture. It's part of our history. I love the vi vs. emacs debate.;-)
Internet Time, I ignored this one, but you are probably right. RMS vs. ESR, yeah, though to a much lesser extent. Jon Katz, no.
I can only assume you say that it was a fad because teh number of katz hater posts has gone down. (I don't know if this is true or not, I'm making an assumption.) If that's why you say this I would like to point out I highly doubt it's because it's a 'fad'. Frankly whether he's supposed to be a 'god' or 'insightful' he's failed miserably on both counts. I've seen one article from him that was worth reading, and that was his collection of emails regarding the persecution of people who are different in the backlash following the columbine massacre. The real reason those comments have declined is because the most vocal anti-katz people, the people who had real reasons to complain, and specific examples to cite and aren't just looking for a place to vent in general gained the option to block his articles. Out of sight, out of mind. Half the time I forget he even exists anymore. If we were all forced to see his articles again I have a feeling the number of anti-katz articles would have another huge upswing.
Sorry Jon, I'm sure your a nice guy and all. I don't hate you personally, I don't even know you. And I'm sure there's a place for your writing, but I really don't think it's/.
One of my closest friends is a Dish Dealer, so of course I'm going to be biased towards them. But I have also used the product. I also worked for Radio Shack for awhile and am familiar with their product. Buy Dish Network. It really is the best choice. I didn't see any recommendations for primestar on my glimpsing through but I didn't look to closely. If you are thinking about it, don't do it. They are closing their doors, and once they do you will be stuck. You'll have to buy a diff dish system.
Dish has a/really/ cool system that you should be able to get by now which allows for some really cool geek features.;-) For example, it has an internal hard drive, and while watching a live show/event, if you need to take a phone call or get something to eat/etc you can just pause it. It will begin recording internally at that point and when you get back you unpause it and it will begin playing from when you left, while still recording the incoming signal for you!/That/ is cool.
RE:Local channels. You don't need any signed paper from your local channels or known bad reception. All the decision did was say that a dish/cable company can't force you to pay for local channels if you can get them for free just fine. If you want to get local programming, then when they ask you if you get good reception of local channels just say no.
In regards to the weirdness of dishes local channel support. They are still putting up all the sattelites they need to support local channels in every area. They will be doing areas with major NFL/etc sports teams first (as they will bring in the most revenue for financing hte rest of the areas) and then the others will begin filling in. And AFAIK you don't need a second dish to get local programming. Though there could be some exceptions.
If you want you can email the guy I know who is a dealer and ask him for more details at chad@cablerunnersNOSPAM.net
Here Here! Right on the money I say! I have used GNOME, E, KDE, and WM. I even tried KDE/WM for awhile. I just couldn't keep using it. I never used any of KDE's features. (Except the minicli which is part of kwm. Getting a commandline from a keystroke is really handy.) From what I've seen of the new one you can now assign key-strokes to various apps as well, which is another really cool feature. But like you, beyond that and a file manager I can't find much use for it. I do know people who do and who use it extensively and that's great! I think KDE is a/wonderfull/ environment for new people to Linux. But many of us don't have a use for that and Raster's plans (if that was really his post, and those really are his plans) are very encouraging. I'll be keeping an eye open for how it proceeds.
Always glad to hear there are others out there like me (x/e/wterm, vim, mutt,etc users as opposed to the pansy alternatives;-) (Again, not that I'm opposed to their existance, If they weren't here, my wife would still be using windows. -shudder- but it's good to know there are still people like us out there.)
Pretentious? Come on. "just a comic strip"? I agree that that is exactly what it is. But it is also/his/ creation. Does he not have some say in what gets done with it? What if MS said, well, Linux is just an OS kernel...let's ignore the fact that it is licensed under GNU and make our own that's closed source and make lots of money from it. I bet you'd through a fit then wouldn't you.
His comic strip was a part of him. It was something that he loved doing and chose to share with the rest of us. He took pride in his work and did not wish to commercialize it. Personally, I too would love to let my kids have a stuffed Hobbes. But, out of respect for him and his wishes I wouldn't buy one even if I knew where one was.
I find it distastefull and extremely disrespectfull of the man and his work to flagrantly go against his decision.
-grin- That I would like to see. However, I am a little perturbed that this guy is worried about the legalities of using MS' logo but gives no thought to Bill Watterson and the use of his comic strip character. It has always been (and afaik still is) his desire to/not/ commercialize calvin. He has never authorized the use of any of his strip characters for use in mugs shirts caps or stickers of any kind.
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.. but I'm only a dumb hick, so what do I know, right?
/. poster did it too. I fully expected to see CmdrTaco or something up there.)
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Well, I dunno about that, but I do know that your complaint was badly aimed. Read the post again. That last line was still in italics, it's from the poster, not timothy.
(Don't feel bad, The obviousness of the irrelevant jab made me thing the
I agree. If you are quoting sections of the document that is fair use from what I understand (Of course, IANAL) I believe another mentioned the risks in assuming responsibility for posts on this site. I agree with this as well. If you are responsible for any part of the content you are responsible for all of it. I know no-one wants to be the ones to have to go through the legal hassle to fight a bad law, but we do all get upset whenever x company chooses not to fight, we shouldn't be hypocrites now and back down ourselves.
/. should stick to their guns on this one. I believe in picking your battles, but this one is not a minor skirmish. The DMCA is a very big problem so any opportunity to shoot it down must be taken.
However, I'm thinking this might not go that far. The DMCA is a bad law, but companies like MS want to keep it. My guess is they'll bluster and try to make you take it down by threatening you. But, if you stand up, there's a good chance they will back down rather than take a chance on the law being overturned in court. A lot of companies take a tack like that. If you stand up, they might back down and go after people more easily frightened.
Either way, I think
http://www.thedaily.washington.edu/archives/00W/1. 5.00/home.nclk
That one is closer, but still a bit skewed.
I know the head of the University's Curriculum Office, and so I asked him about it. He had
this to say:
PHIL 200 is 'topics in philosophy', which is (obviously) an undergraduate course that meets tone of the 'general education' requirements. The University has *not* approved a course on the Matrix. All they've done is approved a course in 'topics', which is then left up to the dept to decide how best to use that course.
Topics courses, however, tend not to be able to be used for specific degree requirements -- always general ed electives or degree program electives.
of an online trading company that doesn't charge you for trades, but rather a percentage of the profit on your portofolio. So they only charge you if you are sucessfull. Anybody know what the name of this company is?
-snicker-
/post/ about this someone had to put the thoughts we were discussing up here. ;-)
Well, since I didn't expect you to
Hrm. I don't think it's been around long enough to be most improved. I understand you sentiments and at first was tempted to agree. And I think they certainly could use the money. But I think giving them the award would be unfair considering the amount of work mozilla has put into their project. They have slaved all year on this project in spite of people in /this/ community pooh-poohing their work. There is no comparison between mozilla and livid in the amount of work that has been done. Not that I don't appreciate the work Livid has done, and not that I don't think it's important. I just think mozilla is more deserving of this award at this point in time. I do encourage you to vote for them or for freemware for the "Most deserving of 2000$" award though. As I think either of those projects meet that category.
I think either livid or freemware would be good for this category. Livid for their defense and for the project itself which is extrememly important. And FreeMWare because we really need an open-source version of VMWare and they need the cash to continue the work.
While I love vim and think it has a great interface I'm already nominating it for best text editor. So I think mutt wins my nomination in this category.
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Definately. Esp with the changes they've made in .16. Even relatively inexperienced linux/X users can run enlightenment and have a mostly customized setup now.
Agreed. I love perl, and I think the things php makes possible are astounding. In fact, I have done some work coding mod_perl for an ecommerce site. But I think these are individual apps in their own right that would fit better in other categories if you really want to nominate them. Apache is just the environment they run in. Esp for mod_perl.
OTOH there are some great modules that are specific apache modules that make apache better. Some that many can't live w/out. Like mod_ssl as suggested above and mod_ssi.
Agreed. And it only got better with the release of 0.16.
I think you guys are missing the obvious here. Through the founding of the Linux OS and his constant advocacy w/out extremes Linus has probably done more good for Open Source than ESR and RMS combined (assuming all positives /and/ negatives, not just the positive things)
Sounds like a charity to me!
Cause frankly, I don't care who is helping the current crop of lazy newbies. Matt Walsh worked on the LDP and wrote running linux. And despite the current condition of the LDP those are still two great sources of information for people new to linux that have a clue and are willing to do the work to learn linux.
Along with the name of the person who found a way to make bullet casings from ceramics. Or maybe they used paper mache for that? Look, all sarcasm aside, this has nothing to do with guns. Guns, as currently made, cannot be made from something like ceramics, or even plastic. Glocks (the guns referenced in die hard as being made of ceramic materials) have their base/grips made from a polymer. But, the rest is mostly metal. The clips have metal sides, a metal plate that feeds the ammo into the gun and a spring. The Gun has a slide which is metal (usually bar stock) a recoil spring, sear, firing pin, barrel, etc. You ever hear of making a spring capable of the force a recoil spring is required to have out of ceramic materials? How about plastic? A ceramic gun would quite simply explode the first time it was fired. Same with plastic. Won't work. Has to have some metal parts.
Now, the implementation of this does not have anything to do with searching for bombs or guns. It has to do with searching for drugs. And this is yet another piece of our liberty that we are supposed to sacrifice so we can get those drug dealers and 'save the children'. This is yet another attempt to get around the fourth amendment. Some of you have said you think this is ok. That you'd rather have that than being strip searched/etc.
Ok, so why not put these in cop cars. You know, so instead of pulling you over or aside, they can just sit in their car and check you out to see if you are packing any drugs? I mean, it's more convenient than having them pull you over and try and force you to let them conduct an illegal search right?
This isn't really accurate. Close, but no cigar. The second amendment was created to avoid the danger of /having/ a standing army. The american people, armed to the teeth, were to /be/ the standing army. Hopefully, if there ever /is/ an armed revolution in this country, the military will server the constitution and not the Government, as it was intended to do and american citizens won't have to defeat them.
Ok, in some ways I agree with you. There are a lot of self-proclaimed, so-called 'experts' out there flapping off at the mouth about things they have no clue or historical perspective on. And I think the Gnome vs. KDE thing was a great example. But I have to say 'vi vs. emacs' is really not a fad. It's part of the unix culture. Yes you still have flame-fests on this topic, from people who haven't been around long enough to know better, but the whole vi vs. emacs thing goes back so far as to be an integral part of the unix culture. It's part of our history. I love the vi vs. emacs debate. ;-)
/.
Internet Time, I ignored this one, but you are probably right.
RMS vs. ESR, yeah, though to a much lesser extent.
Jon Katz, no.
I can only assume you say that it was a fad because teh number of katz hater posts has gone down. (I don't know if this is true or not, I'm making an assumption.) If that's why you say this I would like to point out I highly doubt it's because it's a 'fad'. Frankly whether he's supposed to be a 'god' or 'insightful' he's failed miserably on both counts. I've seen one article from him that was worth reading, and that was his collection of emails regarding the persecution of people who are different in the backlash following the columbine massacre. The real reason those comments have declined is because the most vocal anti-katz people, the people who had real reasons to complain, and specific examples to cite and aren't just looking for a place to vent in general gained the option to block his articles. Out of sight, out of mind. Half the time I forget he even exists anymore. If we were all forced to see his articles again I have a feeling the number of anti-katz articles would have another huge upswing.
Sorry Jon, I'm sure your a nice guy and all. I don't hate you personally, I don't even know you. And I'm sure there's a place for your writing, but I really don't think it's
Klipsch! Klipsch all the way man! Or perhaps B&W if you have the cash.
One of my closest friends is a Dish Dealer, so of course I'm going to be biased towards them. But I have also used the product. I also worked for Radio Shack for awhile and am familiar with their product. Buy Dish Network. It really is the best choice. I didn't see any recommendations for primestar on my glimpsing through but I didn't look to closely. If you are thinking about it, don't do it. They are closing their doors, and once they do you will be stuck. You'll have to buy a diff dish system.
/really/ cool system that you should be able to get by now which allows for some really cool geek features. ;-) For example, it has an internal hard drive, and while watching a live show/event, if you need to take a phone call or get something to eat/etc you can just pause it. It will begin recording internally at that point and when you get back you unpause it and it will begin playing from when you left, while still recording the incoming signal for you! /That/ is cool.
Dish has a
RE:Local channels. You don't need any signed paper from your local channels or known bad reception. All the decision did was say that a dish/cable company can't force you to pay for local channels if you can get them for free just fine. If you want to get local programming, then when they ask you if you get good reception of local channels just say no.
In regards to the weirdness of dishes local channel support. They are still putting up all the sattelites they need to support local channels in every area. They will be doing areas with major NFL/etc sports teams first (as they will bring in the most revenue for financing hte rest of the areas) and then the others will begin filling in. And AFAIK you don't need a second dish to get local programming. Though there could be some exceptions.
If you want you can email the guy I know who is a dealer and ask him for more details at chad@cablerunnersNOSPAM.net
How about 'Darth Hacker'?
;-)
Here Here! Right on the money I say! I have used GNOME, E, KDE, and WM. I even tried KDE/WM for awhile. I just couldn't keep using it. I never used any of KDE's features. (Except the minicli which is part of kwm. Getting a commandline from a keystroke is really handy.) From what I've seen of the new one you can now assign key-strokes to various apps as well, which is another really cool feature. But like you, beyond that and a file manager I can't find much use for it. I do know people who do and who use it extensively and that's great! I think KDE is a /wonderfull/ environment for new people to Linux. But many of us don't have a use for that and Raster's plans (if that was really his post, and those really are his plans) are very encouraging. I'll be keeping an eye open for how it proceeds.
;-) (Again, not that I'm opposed to their existance, If they weren't here, my wife would still be using windows. -shudder- but it's good to know there are still people like us out there.)
Always glad to hear there are others out there like me (x/e/wterm, vim, mutt,etc users as opposed to the pansy alternatives
I think you mean Menwith hill.
;-)
Pretentious? Come on. "just a comic strip"? I agree that that is exactly what it is. But it is also /his/ creation. Does he not have some say in what gets done with it? What if MS said, well, Linux is just an OS kernel...let's ignore the fact that it is licensed under GNU and make our own that's closed source and make lots of money from it. I bet you'd through a fit then wouldn't you.
His comic strip was a part of him. It was something that he loved doing and chose to share with the rest of us. He took pride in his work and did not wish to commercialize it. Personally, I too would love to let my kids have a stuffed Hobbes. But, out of respect for him and his wishes I wouldn't buy one even if I knew where one was.
I find it distastefull and extremely disrespectfull of the man and his work to flagrantly go against his decision.
-grin- That I would like to see. However, I am a little perturbed that this guy is worried about the legalities of using MS' logo but gives no thought to Bill Watterson and the use of his comic strip character. It has always been (and afaik still is) his desire to /not/ commercialize calvin. He has never authorized the use of any of his strip characters for use in mugs shirts caps or stickers of any kind.