I didn't mean to imply that just bending metal wasn't environmentally hostile, just that it was the least environmentally hostile part of the process. I mean, if bending metal is Killing The Planet, I think there are a couple of other products that we should Stop Using Immediately. Like refrigerators. That'd fix everything.
I have used the same case for several years. It's had four motherboards in it, all of which were purchased because the new processor was not compatible with the old mobo. One size absolutely does not fit all, when you consider processor sockets and RAM slots.
And as far as parts recovery, I don't know where you thought I was talking about that. Computer recycling is expensive and unhealthy for those (like a lot of unfortunate mainland Chinese) who do it.
I think you totally (and intentionally) misunderstood my post.
Where in the article did it say that the process uses a bunch of potable water? Yes, drinking water renews itself at a finite rate, which is accelerated by a number of technological systems that us nasty dirty humans invented.
Again: My concern about this article is that it's not going to motivate PC mfr's to become cleaner. They'll just say "Upgrade, don't replace!" and continue using the same techniques.
Oh good. Because the thing I need right now, is to have things that are more expensive.
Please let me get a job before butt-raping me with artificially inflated "environmental costs". I mean, I'm sure that these upstanding corporate citizens won't build in an extra 2 or 3 or 15% extra profit margins for themselves when they pass those costs on to me.
This is one of those ideas that looks really good on paper, but is astoundingly difficult to administer in any sort of workable fashion. Like communism. Or public education.
OK, so I opt to upgrade my computer instead of buying a new one (which is the only thing I've ever done in the last 20 years of PC use).
What parts shouldn't I upgrade in order to be "environmentally friendly"? I'm sure the case doesn't take a hellacious amout of natural resources. I mean, it's just bending metal. The power supply is relatively simple electronics.
So, my guess is that the biggest consumers of resources are going to be the hard drive, the memory, the processor, and the motherboard.
Which are things I upgrade. Regularly.
I think environmental conservation is an important idea, but it seems like "Upgrade! Don't replace!" just gives the manufacturers a good excuse to not explore less environmentally hostile manufacturing techniques.
Having said all that, the beauty of water is that when you use it, you get to use it again. Yay water cycle. Makes planet work good.
Uh huh. And the fact that Apple has 70 percent of portable player revenue (by virtue of the fact that they FUCKING OWN the top end) makes your "worries" about Apple all come true.
They're beleaguered. They must be dying.
Steve has a drum to beat. He's got a world-beating product, and he's selling the hell out of it. Nobody can seem to understand that, you know what? Apple seems to be doing just fine.
EVEN IF their marketshare is tiny. Or if their marketshare (of the high-capacity portable music player sector) is 30 plus percent. Since Apple HAPPENS to have a killer marketshare in this segment, should they NOT say anything?
Marketshare is not important to the health and profitability of the company, which Apple understands just fine. However, it works real good in a sound bite to get stupid people to buy the stock.
Damn, the silly sumbitch can't seem to make people happy. Make a good product, sell not too many of them (albeit profitably), and Apple's dying. Make a good product, sell more of them you can make (at an even better profit) and we're worrying about Apple's long-term marketshare (like that means anything) and they're STILL dying.
No, I mean there was a big fucking crack in the digitizer. The glass was broken. I replaced the digitizer (or, in one case, the entire screen assembly) and they worked fine.
I don't know anything about the Tungsten C, but the Tungsten T an T3 (the two I have personally played with) seem to be doing just fine. I didn't feel the need to drop them on the ground, but they seemed to be reasonably rugged.
If I need a lot of durability, I'll put the things in a good case.
Look, if you don't like the new hardware, don't buy it. I don't know why I've bothered sharing my experience when you seem so determined to hate anything built after 2001.
OK, let's compare the years Apple was profitable with the ones Steve's been running the show.
I detect a strong correlation.
He is a megalomaniac. And an iconoclast. And a vegan. And a bit of a freak of nature.
He also knows how to get what he wants, which happens to be really congruent with what a really surprising number of customers seem to want. Scully always sounded like sour grapes to me. He could never figure out what made Apple "insanely great" (which, in my experience, is not much of a hyperbole).
I had a four-button (and chording) mouse on my Mac in 1994. The flexibility and power of that mouse, coupled with the superb mapping utility, is unmatched on any platform to this day. This mouse was neither terribly expensive, nor terribly uncommon. I have used it almost daily for ten years.
So sod off with your mouse button whining. It's stupid, and inaccurate.
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I bet you a nickel that the price elasticity on the iPod mini was teeny teeny teeny. Good for them for selling out, but I don't think that raising the price to $300 would have done them much good.
I mean, yeah, some people spent $700 for PS2's when they first came out. But all those people were stupid. : )
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Yes. You like the Neuros. Good for you. Go buy one. They haven't sold out yet.
Yeah, I've spent HOURS AND HOURS trying to find the Registry on my MacOS X machine so that I could, er, do...something to it.
Oh wait. I'm a CRACK FIEND.
Want to install an OSX app? Most of the time, you copy a folder from the CD or disk image to wherever you want it. Want to delete it? Pitch the folder. It's hard for me to imagine how this is anything other than OPTIMAL BEHAVIOR.
Do what I do. Cut a piece of textured transparency film just a bit bigger than the visible screen (maybe half a millimeter) and slip it between the case and the screen. Gives a nice writing surface too.
Or keep using your SJ33. I got one for my Dad, and he absolutely loves it.
You seem to be disparaging tools that other people find handy by calling them "toys". I suggest to you that this might be sloppy thinking. The newest Palms (and Clies) are extremely well-engineered and rugged. Specifically, the plastic digitizers are far more durable than my old Palm III/Handspring Visor (each of which happen to use the same digitizer, and I replaced four of them on my personal hardware).
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You know what? The 12" Powerbook is just about perfect. It's teeny, light, and full-featured. It seems to me that if you want less features than that (and I can certainly understand why you might) you might be better served by a PDA like the Tungsten T3 or the Zaurus.
Now being able to swap the optical drive for another battery would be awesome, but in such a compact package that would be an engineering challenge.
Yeah, because anybody who disagrees with you must be stupid, right? Couldn't agree with you more.
Except that I disagree with you about the iPod. Wait, that means I think you're stupid. Wait, hang on, but I agree with you. It's almost like, gosh! Some people have different opinions and sets of priorities, but might not actually be stupid! What an epiphany! Holy crap, I have to sit down for a minute.
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Don't be ridiculous. If you want to buy a Sony product, you have to buy a Sony product.
But you can just as easily buy one from a dozen other manufacturers.
Microsoft, on the other hand, has a monopoly on the entire personal computer industry. If you don't think they use that monopoly power to destroy competition, you're a poor student of history.
Yes, Apple killed the clone manufacturers. However, the deal struck with the clone mfr's was absolutely murdering Apple. They were losing enormous sales to competitors (who didn't have to do their own R&D), and couldn't sustain their own in-house development.
Apple decided to stop doing this, and they've been doing great since. However, seeing as how they have, what? Five percent of the PC market, calling them a monopoly and comparing them to Microsoft makes you look pretty silly.
Of course Apple is money hungry. That's OK, in and of itself. They make some great products to get money, and I think thats just fine.
Don't be ridiculous. The ONLY reason anybody would buy ANYTHING from Apple is because Steve Jobs came to their house and put the Reality Distortion Field on them. The fact that the products are actually pretty darn good is just a figment of your imagination.
Drink your Kool Aid.
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But if you set the price at $200, you'd sell out EVEN FASTER and then everybody would get more time to make fun of Apple because...look at the silly corporation! They're so beleaguered, they can't even manufacture enough product to sell to people. They must be dying.
MS's lock on the Office market made it impossible for Apple to pursue its lawsuit (which was a stone cold cinch) re: the theft of the QuickTime code that made up MS's media player solutions.
The $150M and the continuing support of Office Mac (which, by the way, is absurdly profitable for MS) were part of the settlement deal.
Had Microsoft not had the power to utterly destroy Apple (by stopping development of Office, and making a big stink about it) Apple would have been able to wring far, far, far more money out of MS.
Stand on the surface of the moon. Drop a rock. What happens?
Hint: the rock does not go hurtling towards Earth.
Any military utility from rocks on the moon pre-supposes a rail gun, the construction costs of which would dwarf the wettest dreams of the most hardware-lovin' Pentagon techno-wonks.
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Well, since that water is not being destroyed, I wind up drinking it sooner or later.
Hence water cycle.
No, I don't worry too much about it. Purifying water is a progressively-better understood technology.
I didn't mean to imply that just bending metal wasn't environmentally hostile, just that it was the least environmentally hostile part of the process. I mean, if bending metal is Killing The Planet, I think there are a couple of other products that we should Stop Using Immediately. Like refrigerators. That'd fix everything.
I have used the same case for several years. It's had four motherboards in it, all of which were purchased because the new processor was not compatible with the old mobo. One size absolutely does not fit all, when you consider processor sockets and RAM slots.
And as far as parts recovery, I don't know where you thought I was talking about that. Computer recycling is expensive and unhealthy for those (like a lot of unfortunate mainland Chinese) who do it.
I think you totally (and intentionally) misunderstood my post.
Where in the article did it say that the process uses a bunch of potable water? Yes, drinking water renews itself at a finite rate, which is accelerated by a number of technological systems that us nasty dirty humans invented.
Again: My concern about this article is that it's not going to motivate PC mfr's to become cleaner. They'll just say "Upgrade, don't replace!" and continue using the same techniques.
Oh good. Because the thing I need right now, is to have things that are more expensive.
Please let me get a job before butt-raping me with artificially inflated "environmental costs". I mean, I'm sure that these upstanding corporate citizens won't build in an extra 2 or 3 or 15% extra profit margins for themselves when they pass those costs on to me.
This is one of those ideas that looks really good on paper, but is astoundingly difficult to administer in any sort of workable fashion. Like communism. Or public education.
OK, so I opt to upgrade my computer instead of buying a new one (which is the only thing I've ever done in the last 20 years of PC use).
What parts shouldn't I upgrade in order to be "environmentally friendly"? I'm sure the case doesn't take a hellacious amout of natural resources. I mean, it's just bending metal. The power supply is relatively simple electronics.
So, my guess is that the biggest consumers of resources are going to be the hard drive, the memory, the processor, and the motherboard.
Which are things I upgrade. Regularly.
I think environmental conservation is an important idea, but it seems like "Upgrade! Don't replace!" just gives the manufacturers a good excuse to not explore less environmentally hostile manufacturing techniques.
Having said all that, the beauty of water is that when you use it, you get to use it again. Yay water cycle. Makes planet work good.
But if you don't like bacon or Moosehead beer, pretty much nothin' you need here.
OK, I couldn't resist bagging on Canada. They're so cute...like a whole 'nother country!
Uh huh. And the fact that Apple has 70 percent of portable player revenue (by virtue of the fact that they FUCKING OWN the top end) makes your "worries" about Apple all come true.
They're beleaguered. They must be dying.
Steve has a drum to beat. He's got a world-beating product, and he's selling the hell out of it. Nobody can seem to understand that, you know what? Apple seems to be doing just fine.
EVEN IF their marketshare is tiny. Or if their marketshare (of the high-capacity portable music player sector) is 30 plus percent. Since Apple HAPPENS to have a killer marketshare in this segment, should they NOT say anything?
Marketshare is not important to the health and profitability of the company, which Apple understands just fine. However, it works real good in a sound bite to get stupid people to buy the stock.
Damn, the silly sumbitch can't seem to make people happy. Make a good product, sell not too many of them (albeit profitably), and Apple's dying. Make a good product, sell more of them you can make (at an even better profit) and we're worrying about Apple's long-term marketshare (like that means anything) and they're STILL dying.
Damn, I wish I was dying like that.
No, I mean there was a big fucking crack in the digitizer. The glass was broken. I replaced the digitizer (or, in one case, the entire screen assembly) and they worked fine.
I don't know anything about the Tungsten C, but the Tungsten T an T3 (the two I have personally played with) seem to be doing just fine. I didn't feel the need to drop them on the ground, but they seemed to be reasonably rugged.
If I need a lot of durability, I'll put the things in a good case.
Look, if you don't like the new hardware, don't buy it. I don't know why I've bothered sharing my experience when you seem so determined to hate anything built after 2001.
OK, let's compare the years Apple was profitable with the ones Steve's been running the show.
I detect a strong correlation.
He is a megalomaniac.
And an iconoclast.
And a vegan.
And a bit of a freak of nature.
He also knows how to get what he wants, which happens to be really congruent with what a really surprising number of customers seem to want. Scully always sounded like sour grapes to me. He could never figure out what made Apple "insanely great" (which, in my experience, is not much of a hyperbole).
I get so bored saying this.
I had a four-button (and chording) mouse on my Mac in 1994. The flexibility and power of that mouse, coupled with the superb mapping utility, is unmatched on any platform to this day. This mouse was neither terribly expensive, nor terribly uncommon. I have used it almost daily for ten years.
So sod off with your mouse button whining. It's stupid, and inaccurate.
I bet you a nickel that the price elasticity on the iPod mini was teeny teeny teeny. Good for them for selling out, but I don't think that raising the price to $300 would have done them much good.
I mean, yeah, some people spent $700 for PS2's when they first came out. But all those people were stupid. : )
Yes. You like the Neuros. Good for you. Go buy one. They haven't sold out yet.
"problems"? They sold out of those first-gen iPods too, if I remember correctly.
Boy, I wish I had problems like that.
You seem to be forgetting that MARKETSHARE MEANS FUCK-ALL to Apple.
They don't need it. They are not dying because they don't have it. It is not important to their business model.
Yeah, I've spent HOURS AND HOURS trying to find the Registry on my MacOS X machine so that I could, er, do...something to it.
Oh wait. I'm a CRACK FIEND.
Want to install an OSX app? Most of the time, you copy a folder from the CD or disk image to wherever you want it. Want to delete it? Pitch the folder. It's hard for me to imagine how this is anything other than OPTIMAL BEHAVIOR.
Do what I do. Cut a piece of textured transparency film just a bit bigger than the visible screen (maybe half a millimeter) and slip it between the case and the screen. Gives a nice writing surface too.
Or keep using your SJ33. I got one for my Dad, and he absolutely loves it.
You seem to be disparaging tools that other people find handy by calling them "toys". I suggest to you that this might be sloppy thinking. The newest Palms (and Clies) are extremely well-engineered and rugged. Specifically, the plastic digitizers are far more durable than my old Palm III/Handspring Visor (each of which happen to use the same digitizer, and I replaced four of them on my personal hardware).
You know what? The 12" Powerbook is just about perfect. It's teeny, light, and full-featured. It seems to me that if you want less features than that (and I can certainly understand why you might) you might be better served by a PDA like the Tungsten T3 or the Zaurus.
Now being able to swap the optical drive for another battery would be awesome, but in such a compact package that would be an engineering challenge.
Yeah, because anybody who disagrees with you must be stupid, right? Couldn't agree with you more.
Except that I disagree with you about the iPod. Wait, that means I think you're stupid. Wait, hang on, but I agree with you. It's almost like, gosh! Some people have different opinions and sets of priorities, but might not actually be stupid! What an epiphany! Holy crap, I have to sit down for a minute.
Don't be ridiculous. If you want to buy a Sony product, you have to buy a Sony product.
But you can just as easily buy one from a dozen other manufacturers.
Microsoft, on the other hand, has a monopoly on the entire personal computer industry. If you don't think they use that monopoly power to destroy competition, you're a poor student of history.
Yes, Apple killed the clone manufacturers. However, the deal struck with the clone mfr's was absolutely murdering Apple. They were losing enormous sales to competitors (who didn't have to do their own R&D), and couldn't sustain their own in-house development.
Apple decided to stop doing this, and they've been doing great since. However, seeing as how they have, what? Five percent of the PC market, calling them a monopoly and comparing them to Microsoft makes you look pretty silly.
Of course Apple is money hungry. That's OK, in and of itself. They make some great products to get money, and I think thats just fine.
Don't be ridiculous. The ONLY reason anybody would buy ANYTHING from Apple is because Steve Jobs came to their house and put the Reality Distortion Field on them. The fact that the products are actually pretty darn good is just a figment of your imagination.
Drink your Kool Aid.
: )
But if you set the price at $200, you'd sell out EVEN FASTER and then everybody would get more time to make fun of Apple because...look at the silly corporation! They're so beleaguered, they can't even manufacture enough product to sell to people. They must be dying.
Oh wait. I seem to have had a stupid attack.
MS's lock on the Office market made it impossible for Apple to pursue its lawsuit (which was a stone cold cinch) re: the theft of the QuickTime code that made up MS's media player solutions.
The $150M and the continuing support of Office Mac (which, by the way, is absurdly profitable for MS) were part of the settlement deal.
Had Microsoft not had the power to utterly destroy Apple (by stopping development of Office, and making a big stink about it) Apple would have been able to wring far, far, far more money out of MS.
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/. blurb. Impressive. Most impressive.
Wow. Didn't even bother to read the
Then the credit card companies must trust the hardware.
Can you imagine a couple reasons they might not want to do that?
Texas. But thanks. : )
Stand on the surface of the moon. Drop a rock. What happens?
Hint: the rock does not go hurtling towards Earth.
Any military utility from rocks on the moon pre-supposes a rail gun, the construction costs of which would dwarf the wettest dreams of the most hardware-lovin' Pentagon techno-wonks.
So why is this viable again?