Is anyone keeping an official list of 'desktop software that looks good and isn't horribly bloated like almost everything else seems to be these days, not like back when I were a lad' (tm)? I nominate Dillo and Icewm
I agree! But instead rox i recommend emelfm which is fast and powerfull "nc-like" file manager.
Then gqview for image browsing, gnumeric as spreadsheet and LyX as word processor.
Er... you wrote "looks good" - so maybe LyX isn't a good example here;-)
It would be useful to (re)build this on SDL so that they don't have to re-invent the wheel for audio, 2D, etc. (all the non D3D parts). Already SDL allows (hell, requires) you to call OGL directly when you need 3d accel. So by implementing their calls as an SDL layer they would lose nothing and gain a very nice cross-platform layer.
I don't understand what exactly will you gain. Direct3D -> OpenGL wrapper can be useful for emulator, so you can run already written Direct3D games in Linux. But when you write new game - you can choose SDL with OpenGL, so wrapper is useless.
I wonder why nobody mentions this game anymore. It was released in 1983(??) and still is great fun. Just download vice (a C64 emulator) and use your old floppy with the original MULE game (right...).
M.U.L.E. is not RTS. It's just perfect turn based strategy with few moments of arcade.
BTW IMHO first game better than M.U.L.E. was Civilization (after 8 years).
"I just stopped using Windows and now you tell me to use Mirrors?" - said Aunt Tillie, just before compiling 2.5.3 kernel.
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One great example would be to have a brick as a part of a security system. How about intergrating it with an X10 system? Turn your robot on with the flick of a wall switch.
It's already possible thanks to IR. Of course you need PC to read signals from RCX.
Instead of being dissapointed, you should talk about it on GCC mailing lists [gnu.org] or even submit a patch. This is how GCC [gnu.org] evolve. If you are skilled enough (and I suppose you are, if you can read and understand optimized assembly),
I can read, understand and write x86 assembler, but I am not skilled enought to understand gcc source.
BTW I don't think patch is needed, if my problem with loop is only in gcc-2.95.3. Maybe I should install gcc3 and find new problems there. I am just waiting for any reason to upgrade.
So when you look at less than optimal code generated by a compiler, put yourself in the compiler writer's shoes and ask yourself why; for that matter, drop an e-mail to the compiler writer or to a mailing list, and ask why. The answers you receive will be most instructive.
There is a little problem. Programming applications is much easier than programming compilers. I could see that compiler did something stupid, but I have no idea what it did wrong and how to fix that.
Shuttup sissie! If you take the trouble to check its assembler output, why dont you write in assembler in the first time, like real men do? kids...
You probably wasn't serious, but I am. I spend few years programming stuff only in assembler (for DOS). I though I can use just pure C/C++ in Linux, but if I need real fast code - I must write inner loop in asm.
I hope gcc will be faster one day. I just think it is important to say, that it should to be faster.
It's not terribly suprising that Intel can make a more efficient compiler than gcc.
OK, but I read everywhere, that gcc is "very fast". It's important to admit, that it's not so fast as it could be.
Are there any speed improvements in gcc3 for 386, pentium and k6 processors?
Sometime I analize assembler code produced by gcc-2.95.3 and I am dissapointed. Gcc can do so stupid things like inserting instruction inside - instead outside of loop. Probably gcc3 is fixed, but I heard it still produces slow code (not faster than gcc-2.95.3). So which compiler should I use today?
I know gcc3 is better, becouse it supports more platforms, but what about speed improvements? To have fast inner loop in linux application I must code that loop in assembler. That is a problem for someone, who's creating a computer game.
I was searching freshmeat, linuxgames and other resources for any pinball related projects. There is one pinball, but binary only, and it never changes. I remember Pinball Dreams and other 2D games - I think there were very simple. Probably the hardest part will be good graphics. So - is anyone making free (GPL) pinball game and need help? Or anyone has enough time to contribute?
I can remember a lady at a coffee shop who started selling more cakes of a specific kind when she raised the price. Same product. The perception of the product was that it must not be any good if it was being sold cheaply, but it was alright if it came close to the expected price point.
I think that's the reason many people don't want to buy ECS motherboards. Even if K7S5A is far better than many VIA-based alternatives.
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X built without a single hickup. Why doesn't the README say "If you're using Linux, just do make World and it'll work" ?;)
IMHO it's bad idea to just "make World". Do you really need support for all gfx cards? I compile only support for card I own. It's my compilation, so I can also set -march=k6. And do you really needs to build fonts every time?
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Anybody try what was in CVS?
I compile CVS version about every week or two. Not many tdfx related changes (I have Voodoo3), but 4.1.0 was worse (Xv _and_ OpenGL). You should upgrade if you have ATI card (for example Radeon VE works only with CVS). There are still problems with Radeon - for example - anyone tried to run RTCW multiplayer demo 1.1 on Radeon? Whole system hangs (every time) !
I don't get it. I've seen "dream" systems before, but what's the tie in with Linux? I mean, a fast system is a fast system. Who cares what OS you're running?
It is important what system you want to install there. It's becouse device drivers. And that's the reason NVidia is bad choice.
NVidia is worst choice for Linux. You should try Voodoo, Matrox or ATI. If you choose NVidia you can't use Xv/OpenGL or you must use closed source module!
And if you don't need Xv/OpenGL - why the hell you want spend so much money to Geforce??? Or is it just system for "dual boot" ? So don't call it best for Linux!
I am sorry, but does anyone really uses MS Word for writing documentation? Why? Probably it is also possible to write documentation in GIMP or 3D Studio/Blender, but what for?
There is Doxygen - perfect tool for documenting source (that graphs!!!). There is LyX for writing nice looking text (yes, I don't know LaTeX). And there is vim (and many other editors) for writing simple text. So why MS Word????
This article is strange for me. While icewm is great choice, I don't understand why he wrote about mtv and xanim. I think that software is bad, very bad.
Thanks to avifile author we have many free and powerfull players today. Please try mplayer and avifile if you don't know it.
How xanim or binary-only mtv can be better than free alternatives? Last time I checked it was even impossible to rewind a movie there!
XWC as fm? Well, ok, but I preffer emelfm , which is much better than mc for me (try to use mc in directory with 10000 files!).
Last but not least - word processing. What about LyX ? OK, there is kword and abiword, but there are fat. IMHO LyX is much more powerfull than real MS Word, and it's fast and light. The only problem with LyX is xforms:-(
So - it's nice to see that kind of article, but I think choices are not best there.
I have been waiting for this for a very, very long time. I purchased Q2 for Windows many moons ago, and it is one of the games I miss under Linux. Guess it is time to compile it now.
Quake2 Linux binaries was distributed for a very long time. How it is possible you didn't noticed that?
I think source code is for hackers who want to make Quake2 better, the only good thing you can do with source code (if you are not programmer) is use -march option to gain some speed.
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Is anyone keeping an official list of 'desktop software that looks good and isn't horribly bloated like almost everything else seems to be these days, not like back when I were a lad' (tm)? I nominate Dillo and Icewm
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I agree! But instead rox i recommend emelfm which is fast and powerfull "nc-like" file manager.
Then gqview for image browsing, gnumeric as spreadsheet and LyX as word processor.
Er... you wrote "looks good" - so maybe LyX isn't a good example here
It would be useful to (re)build this on SDL so that they don't have to re-invent the wheel for audio, 2D, etc. (all the non D3D parts). Already SDL allows (hell, requires) you to call OGL directly when you need 3d accel. So by implementing their calls as an SDL layer they would lose nothing and gain a very nice cross-platform layer.
I don't understand what exactly will you gain. Direct3D -> OpenGL wrapper can be useful for emulator, so you can run already written Direct3D games in Linux. But when you write new game - you can choose SDL with OpenGL, so wrapper is useless.
I wonder why nobody mentions this game anymore. It was released in 1983(??) and still is great fun. Just download vice (a C64 emulator) and use your old floppy with the original MULE game (right...).
M.U.L.E. is not RTS. It's just perfect turn based strategy with few moments of arcade.
BTW IMHO first game better than M.U.L.E. was Civilization (after 8 years).
What about "Wargames" ? It's RTS game for Atari XL/XE and it was released long before Dune II.
linux is a serious toy that can be configured to be an OS
How can I configure linux to be an OS? Do I need crack?
"I just stopped using Windows and now you tell me to use Mirrors?" - said Aunt Tillie, just before compiling 2.5.3 kernel.
One great example would be to have a brick as a part of a security system. How about intergrating it with an X10 system? Turn your robot on with the flick of a wall switch.
It's already possible thanks to IR. Of course you need PC to read signals from RCX.
Hook your Lego Mindstorm box up to the internet, attach a small LCD screen,
There is LCD screen in RCX. RCX is just a computer in lego brick. It has small screen, few buttons and IR transmitter.
Instead of being dissapointed, you should talk about it on GCC mailing lists [gnu.org] or even submit a patch. This is how GCC [gnu.org] evolve. If you are skilled enough (and I suppose you are, if you can read and understand optimized assembly),
I can read, understand and write x86 assembler, but I am not skilled enought to understand gcc source.
BTW I don't think patch is needed, if my problem with loop is only in gcc-2.95.3. Maybe I should install gcc3 and find new problems there. I am just waiting for any reason to upgrade.
So when you look at less than optimal code generated by a compiler, put yourself in the compiler writer's shoes and ask yourself why; for that matter, drop an e-mail to the compiler writer or to a mailing list, and ask why. The answers you receive will be most instructive.
There is a little problem. Programming applications is much easier than programming compilers. I could see that compiler did something stupid, but I have no idea what it did wrong and how to fix that.
Shuttup sissie! If you take the trouble to check its assembler output, why dont you write in assembler in the first time, like real men do? kids...
You probably wasn't serious, but I am. I spend few years programming stuff only in assembler (for DOS). I though I can use just pure C/C++ in Linux, but if I need real fast code - I must write inner loop in asm.
I hope gcc will be faster one day. I just think it is important to say, that it should to be faster.
It's not terribly suprising that Intel can make a more efficient compiler than gcc.
OK, but I read everywhere, that gcc is "very fast". It's important to admit, that it's not so fast as it could be.
Are there any speed improvements in gcc3 for 386, pentium and k6 processors?
Sometime I analize assembler code produced by gcc-2.95.3 and I am dissapointed. Gcc can do so stupid things like inserting instruction inside - instead outside of loop. Probably gcc3 is fixed, but I heard it still produces slow code (not faster than gcc-2.95.3). So which compiler should I use today?
I know gcc3 is better, becouse it supports more platforms, but what about speed improvements? To have fast inner loop in linux application I must code that loop in assembler. That is a problem for someone, who's creating a computer game.
I was searching freshmeat, linuxgames and other resources for any pinball related projects. There is one pinball, but binary only, and it never changes. I remember Pinball Dreams and other 2D games - I think there were very simple. Probably the hardest part will be good graphics. So - is anyone making free (GPL) pinball game and need help? Or anyone has enough time to contribute?
I can remember a lady at a coffee shop who started selling more cakes of a specific kind when she raised the price. Same product. The perception of the product was that it must not be any good if it was being sold cheaply, but it was alright if it came close to the expected price point.
I think that's the reason many people don't want to buy ECS motherboards. Even if K7S5A is far better than many VIA-based alternatives.
X built without a single hickup. Why doesn't the README say "If you're using Linux, just do make World and it'll work" ? ;)
IMHO it's bad idea to just "make World". Do you really need support for all gfx cards? I compile only support for card I own. It's my compilation, so I can also set -march=k6. And do you really needs to build fonts every time?
Anybody try what was in CVS?
I compile CVS version about every week or two. Not many tdfx related changes (I have Voodoo3), but 4.1.0 was worse (Xv _and_ OpenGL). You should upgrade if you have ATI card (for example Radeon VE works only with CVS). There are still problems with Radeon - for example - anyone tried to run RTCW multiplayer demo 1.1 on Radeon? Whole system hangs (every time) !
Customer: ... and now it wants me to recompile the kernel.
Tech: Are there any Aunts in your house?
it just doesn't not show me that it is rendering a window... and that's something that Gnome was doing even on 450 mhz machine.
What graphic card you use? You probably didn't configure your XFree86 properly.
I don't get it. I've seen "dream" systems before, but what's the tie in with Linux? I mean, a fast system is a fast system. Who cares what OS you're running?
It is important what system you want to install there. It's becouse device drivers. And that's the reason NVidia is bad choice.
But, just think of your TuxRacer framerate.
Oh yes, I believe you. You want to buy Athlon XP and Geforce for playing TuxRacer. And you never run Windows there.
Think how fast kernel compiles on Geforce! And how fast you can use vim with Athlon XP!
NVidia is worst choice for Linux. You should try Voodoo, Matrox or ATI. If you choose NVidia you can't use Xv/OpenGL or you must use closed source module!
And if you don't need Xv/OpenGL - why the hell you want spend so much money to Geforce??? Or is it just system for "dual boot" ? So don't call it best for Linux!
I am sorry, but does anyone really uses MS Word for writing documentation? Why? Probably it is also possible to write documentation in GIMP or 3D Studio/Blender, but what for?
There is Doxygen - perfect tool for documenting source (that graphs!!!). There is LyX for writing nice looking text (yes, I don't know LaTeX). And there is vim (and many other editors) for writing simple text. So why MS Word????
This article is strange for me. While icewm is great choice, I don't understand why he wrote about mtv and xanim. I think that software is bad, very bad.
:-(
Thanks to avifile author we have many free and powerfull players today. Please try mplayer and avifile if you don't know it.
How xanim or binary-only mtv can be better than free alternatives? Last time I checked it was even impossible to rewind a movie there!
XWC as fm? Well, ok, but I preffer emelfm , which is much better than mc for me (try to use mc in directory with 10000 files!).
Last but not least - word processing. What about LyX ? OK, there is kword and abiword, but there are fat. IMHO LyX is much more powerfull than real MS Word, and it's fast and light. The only problem with LyX is xforms
So - it's nice to see that kind of article, but I think choices are not best there.
I have been waiting for this for a very, very long time. I purchased Q2 for Windows many moons ago, and it is one of the games I miss under Linux. Guess it is time to compile it now.
Quake2 Linux binaries was distributed for a very long time. How it is possible you didn't noticed that?
I think source code is for hackers who want to make Quake2 better, the only good thing you can do with source code (if you are not programmer) is use -march option to gain some speed.