That's entirely missing the point. HTML5 gives you a very nice toolkit for building web apps allowing you full access to the computers computing resources with web workers (threads), storage and caching and graphics through canvas and even 3D graphics through O3D. The speed of the platform has also increased tremendously, in a year it's pretty much tripped thanks to FF3.5, Safari 4, Opera and Chrome. (and other goodies like location and no-plugin-required video playing)
The end result is that a web app can now approach a desktop app in features and speed, and with that you can finally stop worrying about what OS people run, that's becoming irrelevant, as long as they have a modern browser that supports HTML5, they can run your app. It also means that if you have a great idea, you can code it up and deploy it to everyone with a modern browser without having to ship a single CD or making a user go through a installation process
The classic model where people only worked on and with local docs and programs is long gone for the newer generations, and without internet their 'computer is broken', since their facebook, favorite flash game, IM, email and home/search page all give weird error messages.
That, plus the benefits of always having your documents with you no matter what computer and operating system they are using or what location they are at, and the ability to collaborate, share and publish are pretty strong arguments against the local 'My Documents' type model.
Personally I think that a end-user would be slightly confused by such mumbo jumbo, I mean, do you really know a lot of non-technies that know what a 'cervaaar' is?
If such an option were to be added, please let it be called "Save it to Google docs":)
He was punished based on an accusation, not on being found guilty.. that's skipping over an incredibly vital step in the justice system.
Really that's only a small step away from how 'justice' was administered during the 'Dark Ages'. I thought we had left that behind us, but apparently having lawyers and money means you don't have to bother with such pesky details anymore. More so because we're not talking of a fine or something small, but of evicting someone!
Oh while we're at it: What if someone accused you of having *something* illegal on your computer, be it a non licensed picture, an bit of software you didn't obtain legally, or some content you've downloaded. Would you be so happy to instantly loose your home without any independent parties being involved in judging what's true and appropriate ?
Maybe we should revert back the the old ways of throwing suspects in the water with a stone tied around their neck. If they float, they're guilty and will be burned, and if they sink.. well at least they are innocent right?
Sure would cut down on the polluting business of air travel wouldn't it?:)
Woops, you seem to have heard some rumor, misunderstood it, and then attempted to spread it as if it were truth.
The real story is that hard work has been done to make the GPL3 *compatible* with the Apache License 2 (or APL v2, ASF is the 'Apache Software Foundation' and not a license).
Compatible, ie that GPL3 software can link too APL software, is new (GPL2 code wasn't able to link to/include Apache licensed code), is new.. But that is not at all the same as being *equal*, the APL is a BSD like license which means you can do pretty much almost anything with it (as long as you include the copyright headers and notice/readme files), while the GPL3 has many restrictions that the APL doesn't have, the best known one being the viral clause that says you can only link to GPL'd software if your product is GPL too.
Please stop telling people the APL2 and the GPL3 are 'equal', legal issues around licensing are confusing enough without this type of miss-information:)
The article is missing the point that many of the organizations that offer a 'cloud solution' (Amazon, Google, Joyent, etc) have already been experimenting with cloud computing for a long friggin' time, and the massive parallel experimentation phase was "who can grow without breaking". Now they're offering what they learned from that as a service.
When a bunch of people get together and decide that using youtube, slashdot, ipods and mobile phones is suspicious behavior, i find it hard to take this very seriously.. maybe it's time to hire some of those scary youngsters and a fresh perspective in their organization?
Either that, or we all revert back to pen and paper and rotary phones.. ya know, as not to scare those fragile folks
This is the same company who had a monopoly on the US phone network, and only allowed AT&T phones to connect to it (for 'network stability' reasons), and only allowed AT&T answering machines.. make a buck on the line, and then make a buck selling the stuff that connects to it; Sounds like their still trying to play the same game:)
"When details of implementation are sufficiently hidden away that you no longer have to think about them, people often draw a 'cloud' around it, just like you do with the internet where (most of us) don't have to worry about all the wires and the protocols but it's just there, and it just works.."
Cloud computing is trying to draw the same cloud around.. computing (resources), you don't have to worry about connectivity, electricity, how to make db's and file systems scale across systems.. it's an abstract cloud that's just there without having to worry about it.
Living here in The Netherlands it's almost hard to imagine how it can be so bad over there in the US.
For me bandwidth has been un-metered, un-throttled, un-shaped, unlimited and un-restricted in all senses of the word for the last decade or so. And while i do pay 50 euro's (~ 75USD) a month, i get 20mbit with great service, a personal home page, spam filtering and all the other services you would expect from an ISP, plus they never blocked any ports so running your own http/smtp/imap/etc server from home is no problem either. (there are a lot of cheaper options, you could get 4mbit with no restrictions for about 12 euro's a month but then you would loose a bit in the service and quality department).
I guess my question is... how the **** do you guys put up with it! It sounds like your living in some internet stone age where regional monopolies are trying to squeeze every dime out of you they can without having to provide much service to their customers at all... it sounds outragous!
I find it somewhat amusing that in this day and age where data retention acts in various countries are often the topic of the next, the US government can't even keep it's own emails:-)
it might be worth remebering that the _kernel_ part of these VM solutions have been merged into the kernel, and not the userland tools (they are seperate packages). A VM needs certain kernel hooks for the hardware virtualization, hence the need for a kernel 'driver(s)', and the VM scheduling happens there too.
So the comparisment with emacs is very inaccurate, emacs is a userland tool, and doesn't have kernel modules:-)
To be honest i'm glad that this month of bugs is happening, after all the previous news items about how the core php / zend team is refusing to colaberate with some ppl who are deeply concerned about php's security (and by this we do mean mistakes/faults in the php engine, not in bad php programming).
On the other hand, i bet a fair few of the released vunerabilities will be applicable for many websites that the company i work for hosts, and i know corperate policy doesn't include frequent updates to their envirioment, there's just to many sites, to many badly supported applications by/for customers, and just to damn many servers to work with easily, i can't imagine were the only such company with such problems... And it really makes me wonder if this will mean that many hundreds of our hosted websites will from now on be easily hackable by scriptkiddies
Should prove to be interesting times, and who knows maybe it will teach our admins to use yum/rpm's for their servers instead of compiling their own apache/php combinations:-)
"Oh, and all of my hardware works. On both of my desktops and my notebook."
Oh then please tell me why Vista degraded my nice SB FX DSP diving my 7.1 system into a software rendered piece of crap which is barely able to keep up with a 0.10$ intergrated sound chip
All the DRM made direct access to the DSP 'illegal', so it can't be used anymore in vista, nor will it likely ever be
Creative is advising every game creator to use OpenAL, to bypass this piece of crap situation DRM has brought us, so much for 'vista the ultimate gaming platform':-)
Your wondering if a GIRL would know who a semi-good looking, multi multi millionaire is?
Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but yes a lot of girls would, and they could probably also name the clubs he visits, and what location their wedding would take place, if he was obtainable:-)
"A school of fish the size of Manhattan off the New Jersey coast. About 20 million herring were travelling together."
That soon we'll find ways to make ocean life go extinct in those parts which so far relativly are protected from our interferance.. With our normal area's of fishing drying up quickly, how long will it take before we go and do our thing there too... *sigh*
Umm in both cases the 'distro' is Redhat Enterprise...
if oracle's distro wins to much, they will have killed their 'upstream' distro provider, and who's patches and fixes and developments can they then "follow, releasing our updates only a day later".
Anyhow, it is a very healthy vote of confidence in RHES, it seems to become the 'new' LSB.. But lets hope oracle is smart enough not to kill their supplier:-)
But IBM never claimed to opensource their OS's.. so i don't see what their 'offence' is, sun however does tout the 'we are all about open source' horn, but in practise is not so much
Also IBM isn't such an offender, they've contributed a lot to the kernel, apache, and many many many oss projects; Which is something i personally value a lot more then opensourcing OS/2 forinstance;-)
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If only IE would support silly little things like the canvas and video tags, or have proper SVG support for that matter.
They have stated they intent to support HTML5, but I'm still waiting for this to actually take shape (hope they will!)
That's entirely missing the point. HTML5 gives you a very nice toolkit for building web apps allowing you full access to the computers computing resources with web workers (threads), storage and caching and graphics through canvas and even 3D graphics through O3D. The speed of the platform has also increased tremendously, in a year it's pretty much tripped thanks to FF3.5, Safari 4, Opera and Chrome. (and other goodies like location and no-plugin-required video playing)
The end result is that a web app can now approach a desktop app in features and speed, and with that you can finally stop worrying about what OS people run, that's becoming irrelevant, as long as they have a modern browser that supports HTML5, they can run your app. It also means that if you have a great idea, you can code it up and deploy it to everyone with a modern browser without having to ship a single CD or making a user go through a installation process
Forget about the OS, it's all about the apps! :)
The classic model where people only worked on and with local docs and programs is long gone for the newer generations, and without internet their 'computer is broken', since their facebook, favorite flash game, IM, email and home/search page all give weird error messages.
That, plus the benefits of always having your documents with you no matter what computer and operating system they are using or what location they are at, and the ability to collaborate, share and publish are pretty strong arguments against the local 'My Documents' type model.
"Save to remote server" ?
Personally I think that a end-user would be slightly confused by such mumbo jumbo, I mean, do you really know a lot of non-technies that know what a 'cervaaar' is?
If such an option were to be added, please let it be called "Save it to Google docs" :)
+1 on this sentiment.
He was punished based on an accusation, not on being found guilty.. that's skipping over an incredibly vital step in the justice system.
Really that's only a small step away from how 'justice' was administered during the 'Dark Ages'. I thought we had left that behind us, but apparently having lawyers and money means you don't have to bother with such pesky details anymore. More so because we're not talking of a fine or something small, but of evicting someone!
Oh while we're at it: What if someone accused you of having *something* illegal on your computer, be it a non licensed picture, an bit of software you didn't obtain legally, or some content you've downloaded. Would you be so happy to instantly loose your home without any independent parties being involved in judging what's true and appropriate ?
Anecdote != fact
A very important thing to keep in mind. For instance for you 'databases and tables corrupted', for thousands of others though this never occurred.
Snow Leopard is going to be the first version of Mac OS X that only runs on Intel Macs, so I'm afraid you're going to be stuck on plain old leopard
Maybe we should revert back the the old ways of throwing suspects in the water with a stone tied around their neck. If they float, they're guilty and will be burned, and if they sink.. well at least they are innocent right?
Sure would cut down on the polluting business of air travel wouldn't it? :)
Woops, you seem to have heard some rumor, misunderstood it, and then attempted to spread it as if it were truth.
The real story is that hard work has been done to make the GPL3 *compatible* with the Apache License 2 (or APL v2, ASF is the 'Apache Software Foundation' and not a license).
Compatible, ie that GPL3 software can link too APL software, is new (GPL2 code wasn't able to link to/include Apache licensed code), is new.. But that is not at all the same as being *equal*, the APL is a BSD like license which means you can do pretty much almost anything with it (as long as you include the copyright headers and notice/readme files), while the GPL3 has many restrictions that the APL doesn't have, the best known one being the viral clause that says you can only link to GPL'd software if your product is GPL too.
Please stop telling people the APL2 and the GPL3 are 'equal', legal issues around licensing are confusing enough without this type of miss-information :)
The article is missing the point that many of the organizations that offer a 'cloud solution' (Amazon, Google, Joyent, etc) have already been experimenting with cloud computing for a long friggin' time, and the massive parallel experimentation phase was "who can grow without breaking". Now they're offering what they learned from that as a service.
When a bunch of people get together and decide that using youtube, slashdot, ipods and mobile phones is suspicious behavior, i find it hard to take this very seriously .. maybe it's time to hire some of those scary youngsters and a fresh perspective in their organization?
Either that, or we all revert back to pen and paper and rotary phones.. ya know, as not to scare those fragile folks
This is the same company who had a monopoly on the US phone network, and only allowed AT&T phones to connect to it (for 'network stability' reasons), and only allowed AT&T answering machines.. make a buck on the line, and then make a buck selling the stuff that connects to it; Sounds like their still trying to play the same game :)
There's an awesome response on the googleblog which makes a good read:
http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2008/12/response-to-phone-companies-google.html
When gamers grow up and go to college.. blue leds and bling in the server room!
I think the best way i've heard it explained is:
"When details of implementation are sufficiently hidden away that you no longer have to think about them, people often draw a 'cloud' around it, just like you do with the internet where (most of us) don't have to worry about all the wires and the protocols but it's just there, and it just works.."
Cloud computing is trying to draw the same cloud around.. computing (resources), you don't have to worry about connectivity, electricity, how to make db's and file systems scale across systems.. it's an abstract cloud that's just there without having to worry about it.
Living here in The Netherlands it's almost hard to imagine how it can be so bad over there in the US.
... how the **** do you guys put up with it! It sounds like your living in some internet stone age where regional monopolies are trying to squeeze every dime out of you they can without having to provide much service to their customers at all ... it sounds outragous!
For me bandwidth has been un-metered, un-throttled, un-shaped, unlimited and un-restricted in all senses of the word for the last decade or so. And while i do pay 50 euro's (~ 75USD) a month, i get 20mbit with great service, a personal home page, spam filtering and all the other services you would expect from an ISP, plus they never blocked any ports so running your own http/smtp/imap/etc server from home is no problem either. (there are a lot of cheaper options, you could get 4mbit with no restrictions for about 12 euro's a month but then you would loose a bit in the service and quality department).
I guess my question is
I find it somewhat amusing that in this day and age where data retention acts in various countries are often the topic of the next, the US government can't even keep it's own emails :-)
Seriously?
What kind of an backward and closed minded country do you live in, china?
Such things are completely unheard of in most civilized countries i thought
it might be worth remebering that the _kernel_ part of these VM solutions have been merged into the kernel, and not the userland tools (they are seperate packages). A VM needs certain kernel hooks for the hardware virtualization, hence the need for a kernel 'driver(s)', and the VM scheduling happens there too.
:-)
So the comparisment with emacs is very inaccurate, emacs is a userland tool, and doesn't have kernel modules
To be honest i'm glad that this month of bugs is happening, after all the previous news items about how the core php / zend team is refusing to colaberate with some ppl who are deeply concerned about php's security (and by this we do mean mistakes/faults in the php engine, not in bad php programming).
:-)
On the other hand, i bet a fair few of the released vunerabilities will be applicable for many websites that the company i work for hosts, and i know corperate policy doesn't include frequent updates to their envirioment, there's just to many sites, to many badly supported applications by/for customers, and just to damn many servers to work with easily, i can't imagine were the only such company with such problems... And it really makes me wonder if this will mean that many hundreds of our hosted websites will from now on be easily hackable by scriptkiddies
Should prove to be interesting times, and who knows maybe it will teach our admins to use yum/rpm's for their servers instead of compiling their own apache/php combinations
"Oh, and all of my hardware works. On both of my desktops and my notebook."
:-)
Oh then please tell me why Vista degraded my nice SB FX DSP diving my 7.1 system into a software rendered piece of crap which is barely able to keep up with a 0.10$ intergrated sound chip
All the DRM made direct access to the DSP 'illegal', so it can't be used anymore in vista, nor will it likely ever be
Creative is advising every game creator to use OpenAL, to bypass this piece of crap situation DRM has brought us, so much for 'vista the ultimate gaming platform'
Your wondering if a GIRL would know who a semi-good looking, multi multi millionaire is?
:-)
Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but yes a lot of girls would, and they could probably also name the clubs he visits, and what location their wedding would take place, if he was obtainable
"A school of fish the size of Manhattan off the New Jersey coast. About 20 million herring were travelling together."
... *sigh*
That soon we'll find ways to make ocean life go extinct in those parts which so far relativly are protected from our interferance.. With our normal area's of fishing drying up quickly, how long will it take before we go and do our thing there too
> may the best distro win.
...
.. But lets hope oracle is smart enough not to kill their supplier :-)
Umm in both cases the 'distro' is Redhat Enterprise
if oracle's distro wins to much, they will have killed their 'upstream' distro provider, and who's patches and fixes and developments can they then "follow, releasing our updates only a day later".
Anyhow, it is a very healthy vote of confidence in RHES, it seems to become the 'new' LSB
Hope you don't screw like you type
But IBM never claimed to opensource their OS's.. so i don't see what their 'offence' is, sun however does tout the 'we are all about open source' horn, but in practise is not so much
;-)
Also IBM isn't such an offender, they've contributed a lot to the kernel, apache, and many many many oss projects; Which is something i personally value a lot more then opensourcing OS/2 forinstance