The free-lance writers only want more money for republishing their works, no matter what the content. Who can blame them? They see the RIAA complaining about mp3's and hearing about new CD's that don't allow copying. If you want another copy of that song you need to pay up!
The MPAA is harassing people over the DeCSS case, just because someone wanted to watch a DVD on their linux box. They don't want Europe to get a hold of a DVD before it is released now do they. Need to control those dollars!
Even the Book Publishers are screaming at Barnes and Noble and Amazon.com for selling used books. Why? Their not getting any extra royalties.
So why wouldn't the freelance writers be next? Wouldn't you be a little upset? I would. The freelance writers aren't complaining about making a backup of the info (much like making a copy of your DVD or CD), That's not the issue here. The issue is having the freelance writer bullied into signing their life away. Simply put their being told to either sign this contract that is retroactive to all of your work or you can not work for us ever again. Oh, and by the way, we're going to reproduce your work for profit. That's right more profit that the freelance writer is not benefiting from. This isn't making a copy for the library or for personal use. This is a big bullying company trying to make more profit off of the individual.
Just because I get the paper at home doesn't mean I'm entitled to automatically get the online version too. I've got to pay for that also. Why shouldn't the freelancers get paid twice also?
I don't know about the rest of you but for $10,000.00 a week to deliberately make a poor looking site.... I don't care how bad the movie is... It's not like they have to make you watch it!
I love contests like this and with people posted more like it. I know a lot of people out there who are creative and work well with computers but need a challenge. This is just the thing to get those creative juices flowing!
Ready, I'll put this in terms that even the most unexperienced slashdotter will understand! Think of Gore as a three year old in a candy shop. Situation:He wants the lollypop but his mother won't let him have it. Most of us will feel sorry for him and give him one. Heck, what's one lollypop going to hurt. Now the lollypop is finished, he wants another and starts crying again. Some will say he had enough, no more. Others will still feel sorry for him and give him just one more. While others just want to hear him shut up, so they give him another. When that lollypop is finished, he wants another! Now enough is enough. Only the feeble minded would give him another. Too bad the world has too many stupid people around, this thing would be over by now!
And another thing! While I'm ranting and raving about the loopiness of it all. You mean to tell me that this presidency is riding on the fact that some old bitties couldn't punch out the ballot correctly??? Come on..... Anyway those people should be shipped off to Iraq or somewhere like that. That would keep 'em confused for years, think of it, no more wars!
A Corporation can call that intellectual property since you are working on their time, (you're getting paid for it aren't you). Also you are using the corporations equipment (i.e. computers, and resources). This is why a company can lay claim to software that you produced, on their time, with their $$$$.
ON THE OTHER HAND.... None of this hols true for a school. It's not their time, (you're actually paying to be there in most cases). Also it is with your own equipment..(most of the time).
All I have to say is that gore has had four years to do something and I have yet to see anything happen. Now, all of a sudden, he has all of these promises of what he's going to do???!!!! I'm not waiting around another four years to find out nothing more has happened....
You're going to look some smart walking down the street with a finger in your ear (hopefully yours, your not borrowing your buddies phone).
Imagine this.... An artist paints a picture of a NY city street. Lovely people walking using their finger phones. 2000 years pass. People of the future find this painting.... Is this really an image we want to leave behind?
I understand that to most people, hackers are seen as a bad thing and only thought of in a negative context. If the story is true, mind you, you have to remember this hack was done merely for the challenge. Everyone remembers challenges right? I mean that's why most of us hack code, for the challenge, we want to produce an outcome, but how do we get there. So these guys like a different challenge and they exceeded at it. Fine. They won, and told the admins.
Why did they tell? They're not evil, nor are they geniuses. Chances are, if they got in through a hole so won't someone else. We would rather have hackers such as these dicovering the latest holes and patching them up instead of some script kiddie knocking down the whole system.
Music artists need to quit complaining about Napster and go after the record companys for hoarding so much of the revenues. On average the % that the music artists receive from royalties is small. Why go after Napster when there are bigger fish to fry.
Most people that I know, who use Napster, use it because they don't buy CD's anymore or are just plain sick of paying $15 - $20 for a CD, when they only want one song anyways. The music industry needs a new way to market their CD's or drop the prices so the consumers will have a reason for PAYING.
Record companies, listup! I'm a consumer and I'm speaking out.
I found that I had the same exact problem, not only there but on other sites also. I was told that I needed cookies enabled. I checked and sure enough, they were. What do they want?
Just putting in my $.02 here also. It is strange how a jump like that occured, but does it really matter?
Do you think a poll such as that is going to make you or myself go "Oh my god, according to this poll, Widows is SO much better. I've got to change my OS right away!"
I really don't think so. I believe the people who like Linux will stay with it. The ones who finally get fed up with MS will one day migrate over. Polls are meaningless and by reading the previous posts, we all tend to agree.
I did not word it correctly and I apoligize. What I meant to get across was the fact that this seems vaguely similar to price discrimination.
As you stated, someone could have a coupon to get $$$ off. But as we see here, this just is not the case. There is not coupon. Prices this time were dropped, I think, based on marketing information, probably not at random as they say. What happens if next time they are raised. Does that still count as "capitalism"? All Amazon has to do, if you complain because you found out, is that "oh, sorry, there must have been a glitch..." and they're sitting happy becuase there were thousands of customers who didn't catch the "glitch".
I do not and will not shop at Amazon, but that is just a personal bias.
Granted I do believe that this is just another prime example on how your personal privacy is being lost. Not only, is it a loss of privacy but the "marketing" information is now being used to discriminate against you. I think that Amazon is doing this refund in retrospect of bad press for sites like SlashDot.
Second:
It's not just a simple case of being lazy. Granted Amazon doesn't give you a slogan stating the best price, but last I checked price descimination was illegal. You won't walk into a store and find out that the person in front of you got the computer for $1000 while you're being charged $2000.00
All this brings up a few questions I've had. Zone Alarm has come up a few times in these discussions. I have it and currently run it on my two computers. I've definately learned a lot more than I did about privacy since instituting Zone Alarm on my computers.
Ok, here's my question:
We know that zone alarm stops Windowz Media Player from accessing the internet but exactly what is it accessing the internet for? Anyone?
So what we're seeing here is that all the money the MPAA is spending on legal fees and sueing Americans left and right amounts to nothing. Foreign servers, and foreign sites will be allowed to not only post the source code but will also have the programs available for download. Am I getting this correct?
Anyways, how many of the people here are ranting and raving about this only because of the issues this brings about? Heck, I don't even own a DVD player yet, but my programming page has the source code, and has the programs. No letter yet...
I only care and only post the code because of what this says about the internet. The internet should be free. And free for anything! Sure there are a lot of site and things I don't agree with, but that is their right.
I've been using computers and the internet before it was called that and all we had was Gopher. I've seen many great advances and technology created by, for, and from the internet. Let's not have the pendulum swing the other way.
But this thing is.....
A case can be made for almost anyone now. Look at how many people have jobs in the computer security industry. This is almost saying that they can't even look for the holes in security becuase it would be illegal.
my $.02
Linuxrunner
This whole DeCSS judgement is a violation of our rights. Not to copy DVD's but just the fact it makes it illegal to learn how programs work.
Freedom of speech: Not being able to say what's on my mind (i.e. link to a web page).
I say "Add links to your sites! Let people download the actual programs off your page! Share the source code!" Let them sue ALL of us and waste countless millions of dollars. http://www.2600.com comments that litigation cost a pretty penny just for them.
Hey, the files and source code are on my page and the programs too. I stand up for what I believe in.
Slashdot Mirror
The free-lance writers only want more money for republishing their works, no matter what the content. Who can blame them? They see the RIAA complaining about mp3's and hearing about new CD's that don't allow copying. If you want another copy of that song you need to pay up!
The MPAA is harassing people over the DeCSS case, just because someone wanted to watch a DVD on their linux box. They don't want Europe to get a hold of a DVD before it is released now do they. Need to control those dollars!
Even the Book Publishers are screaming at Barnes and Noble and Amazon.com for selling used books. Why? Their not getting any extra royalties.
So why wouldn't the freelance writers be next?
Wouldn't you be a little upset? I would. The freelance writers aren't complaining about making a backup of the info (much like making a copy of your DVD or CD), That's not the issue here. The issue is having the freelance writer bullied into signing their life away. Simply put their being told to either sign this contract that is retroactive to all of your work or you can not work for us ever again. Oh, and by the way, we're going to reproduce your work for profit. That's right more profit that the freelance writer is not benefiting from. This isn't making a copy for the library or for personal use. This is a big bullying company trying to make more profit off of the individual.
Just because I get the paper at home doesn't mean I'm entitled to automatically get the online version too. I've got to pay for that also. Why shouldn't the freelancers get paid twice also?
I don't know about the rest of you but for $10,000.00 a week to deliberately make a poor looking site....
I don't care how bad the movie is... It's not like they have to make you watch it!
LR
As I said in the title.... If ever came the day, people like me will be glad we stocked up on allour old computers PH
I love contests like this and with people posted more like it. I know a lot of people out there who are creative and work well with computers but need a challenge.
This is just the thing to get those creative juices flowing!
Ready, I'll put this in terms that even the most unexperienced slashdotter will understand!
Think of Gore as a three year old in a candy shop.
Situation:He wants the lollypop but his mother won't let him have it.
Most of us will feel sorry for him and give him one. Heck, what's one lollypop going to hurt.
Now the lollypop is finished, he wants another and starts crying again.
Some will say he had enough, no more. Others will still feel sorry for him and give him just one more. While others just want to hear him shut up, so they give him another.
When that lollypop is finished, he wants another! Now enough is enough. Only the feeble minded would give him another. Too bad the world has too many stupid people around, this thing would be over by now!
And another thing!
While I'm ranting and raving about the loopiness of it all.
You mean to tell me that this presidency is riding on the fact that some old bitties couldn't punch out the ballot correctly???
Come on..... Anyway those people should be shipped off to Iraq or somewhere like that. That would keep 'em confused for years, think of it, no more wars!
boo hoo
A Corporation can call that intellectual property since you are working on their time, (you're getting paid for it aren't you). Also you are using the corporations equipment (i.e. computers, and resources). This is why a company can lay claim to software that you produced, on their time, with their $$$$.
ON THE OTHER HAND.... None of this hols true for a school. It's not their time, (you're actually paying to be there in most cases). Also it is with your own equipment..(most of the time).
All I have to say is that gore has had four years to do something and I have yet to see anything happen. Now, all of a sudden, he has all of these promises of what he's going to do???!!!! I'm not waiting around another four years to find out nothing more has happened....
Dude, look down about 10 posts and you'll find them. Please read previous posts before posting
Just asking????
You're going to look some smart walking down the street with a finger in your ear (hopefully yours, your not borrowing your buddies phone).
Imagine this.... An artist paints a picture of a NY city street. Lovely people walking using their finger phones. 2000 years pass. People of the future find this painting.... Is this really an image we want to leave behind?
Just a thought
I'm going to patent the browsers scroll bar. Doesn't matter what browser you use, if it scrolls, I want the royalties!
Pay up boys and girls.
I understand that to most people, hackers are seen as a bad thing and only thought of in a negative context.
If the story is true, mind you, you have to remember this hack was done merely for the challenge. Everyone remembers challenges right?
I mean that's why most of us hack code, for the challenge, we want to produce an outcome, but how do we get there.
So these guys like a different challenge and they exceeded at it. Fine. They won, and told the admins.
Why did they tell? They're not evil, nor are they geniuses. Chances are, if they got in through a hole so won't someone else. We would rather have hackers such as these dicovering the latest holes and patching them up instead of some script kiddie knocking down the whole system.
Take your pick.
Your Honour, may I treat this person as hostile?
Thank you.
First of all:
I think you posting as anonymous coward says it all.
Second:
Read my other article I posted and think it over. Article Link
Music artists need to quit complaining about Napster and go after the record companys for hoarding so much of the revenues. On average the % that the music artists receive from royalties is small. Why go after Napster when there are bigger fish to fry.
Most people that I know, who use Napster, use it because they don't buy CD's anymore or are just plain sick of paying $15 - $20 for a CD, when they only want one song anyways.
The music industry needs a new way to market their CD's or drop the prices so the consumers will have a reason for PAYING.
Record companies, listup!
I'm a consumer and I'm speaking out.
I found that I had the same exact problem, not only there but on other sites also. I was told that I needed cookies enabled. I checked and sure enough, they were.
What do they want?
"Take my advice, I'm not using it!"
Just putting in my $.02 here also.
It is strange how a jump like that occured, but does it really matter?
Do you think a poll such as that is going to make you or myself go "Oh my god, according to this poll, Widows is SO much better. I've got to change my OS right away!"
I really don't think so. I believe the people who like Linux will stay with it. The ones who finally get fed up with MS will one day migrate over.
Polls are meaningless and by reading the previous posts, we all tend to agree.
"Take my advice, I'm not using it!"
I did not word it correctly and I apoligize. What I meant to get across was the fact that this seems vaguely similar to price discrimination.
As you stated, someone could have a coupon to get $$$ off. But as we see here, this just is not the case. There is not coupon. Prices this time were dropped, I think, based on marketing information, probably not at random as they say. What happens if next time they are raised. Does that still count as "capitalism"? All Amazon has to do, if you complain because you found out, is that "oh, sorry, there must have been a glitch..." and they're sitting happy becuase there were thousands of customers who didn't catch the "glitch".
First of all
I do not and will not shop at Amazon, but that is just a personal bias.
Granted I do believe that this is just another prime example on how your personal privacy is being lost.
Not only, is it a loss of privacy but the "marketing" information is now being used to discriminate against you.
I think that Amazon is doing this refund in retrospect of bad press for sites like SlashDot.
Second:
It's not just a simple case of being lazy. Granted Amazon doesn't give you a slogan stating the best price, but last I checked price descimination was illegal. You won't walk into a store and find out that the person in front of you got the computer for $1000 while you're being charged $2000.00
"Sometimes we all need to stop and think."
All this brings up a few questions I've had.
Zone Alarm has come up a few times in these discussions. I have it and currently run it on my two computers. I've definately learned a lot more than I did about privacy since instituting Zone Alarm on my computers.
Ok, here's my question:
We know that zone alarm stops Windowz Media Player from accessing the internet but exactly what is it accessing the internet for? Anyone?
I would love to know the answer to this question.
Linuxrunner
So what we're seeing here is that all the money the MPAA is spending on legal fees and sueing Americans left and right amounts to nothing. Foreign servers, and foreign sites will be allowed to not only post the source code but will also have the programs available for download.
Am I getting this correct?
Anyways, how many of the people here are ranting and raving about this only because of the issues this brings about?
Heck, I don't even own a DVD player yet, but my programming page has the source code, and has the programs. No letter yet...
I only care and only post the code because of what this says about the internet. The internet should be free. And free for anything! Sure there are a lot of site and things I don't agree with, but that is their right.
I've been using computers and the internet before it was called that and all we had was Gopher. I've seen many great advances and technology created by, for, and from the internet. Let's not have the pendulum swing the other way.
Linuxrunner
But this thing is..... A case can be made for almost anyone now. Look at how many people have jobs in the computer security industry. This is almost saying that they can't even look for the holes in security becuase it would be illegal. my $.02 Linuxrunner
This whole DeCSS judgement is a violation of our rights. Not to copy DVD's but just the fact it makes it illegal to learn how programs work.
Freedom of speech: Not being able to say what's on my mind (i.e. link to a web page).
I say "Add links to your sites! Let people download the actual programs off your page! Share the source code!" Let them sue ALL of us and waste countless millions of dollars. http://www.2600.com comments that litigation cost a pretty penny just for them.
Hey, the files and source code are on my page and the programs too. I stand up for what I believe in.