How sad that my beloved alma mater, birthplace of the Internet, not even in the top-50. OK, some may argue that it was Berners-Lee at CERN, since the concept was born there. But the first node (SDS SIGMA 7) was at UCLA and the first actual packets were sent from UCLA (It's Aliiiive!). The Dot covered the 30th anniversary of the fateful packet burst-and-crash.
They still have the orginal computer on campus (apparently with no WiFi card).
UCLA was also, irnocially, very slow to get a Web site.
You forgot to add the Bush Administration and the rest of the neo-cons. If they didn't want Lott to go, he wouldn't have.
The Bush administration caved after relentless negative media coverage that began to hurt the GOP and the administration. Not the BA's finest leadership hour (should have stood up to the libs), but this is off-topic since we are dicussing censorship, not lack of leadership. Compare: How the liberal media has not covered the nearly identical Dodd-Byrd flap. Had you even heard of this? I'll bet most people haven't.
6) Ann Coulter, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
Does Larry King count?
No, a single example (I saw the King interview) is not a major premise, it is (faulty) inductive reasoning. Ann Coulter has written extensively and accurately how she was given nowhere near the coverage and interviews on her book tour that Franken was given, Larry King notwithstanding. Coulter, Hannity and O'Reilly were all at times dominating the NY Times Bestseller List and the NYT wouldn't review their books! What an embarassment.
I got a Google for you: Search Al Franken's book vs. Coulter's for reviews and TV interviews, then give me your smug Google-before-posting crap. Coulter was virtually shut-out on the broadcast nets. Not to mention Franken's new lib radio network was covered like the Second Coming.
1) Rush Limbaugh, ESPN;
2) Trent Lott, US Senate/US mainstream media;
3) Dr. Laura Schlessinger, gay-right groups;
4) Conservative faulty & speakers, every college campus;
5) Bernard Goldberg, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
6) Ann Coulter, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
7) Sean Hannity, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
8) Al Franken, oh wait, nevermind.
I look forward to seeing how the/. mods view censorhip here.
Why would you glorify producing little with lots of work?
Nice cherry-pick of economic numbers there, John Kerry. I don't think your hours worked GDP numbers tell the whole story. For example, we have much higher overall per-capita numbers. If you think an economy should be judged on how much leisure time a nation's peoples have, well we will never speak the same language. France has been around a lot longer than the US, but we produce almost nine times its overall GNP. What about growth? Innovation? Employment? (France and Germany's unemployment numbers are almost twice as high!)
The bottom line is there is trouble in both of your socialist paradises: France has been racing toward a free-market economy to the point where it is becoming merely a very heavily-taxed capitalist economy, and your vaunted 35-hour work week has been killing the economy:
France is in the midst of transition, from a well-to-do modern economy that has featured extensive government ownership and intervention to one that relies more on market mechanisms...The current government has lowered income taxes and introduced measures to boost employment (9% unemployment). At the end of 2002 the government was focusing on the problems of the high cost of labor and labor market inflexibility resulting from the 35-hour workweek and restrictions on lay-offs...The tax burden remains one of the highest in Europe. The current economic slowdown and inflexible budget items have pushed the deficit above the EU's 3% debt limit. Business investment remains listless because of low rates of capital utilization, high debt, and the steep cost of capital.
Germany's economy has been in the crapper for years, and its latest numbers look weak. And it seems your socialist welfare state has some outsourcing problems of its own:
Germany shed the most jobs in a decade last year as companies including Siemens AG, the nation's biggest electronics company, SAP AG, Germany's biggest software provider, and Volkswagen AG, the largest car producer in Europe, shift production to China, India and Eastern Europe, where labor costs are a fraction of the level in their home market.
Germany's economy has expanded by an average of 1.2 percent every year since 1992, the same as Japan and less than half the rates in the U.S. and the U.K. in the period.
Germany's ageing population, combined with high unemployment, has pushed social security outlays to a level exceeding contributions from workers. Structural rigidities in the labor market - including strict regulations on laying off workers and the setting of wages on a national basis - have made unemployment (now above 10%) a chronic problem.
Oops! Looks like this socialist utopia is collapsing under its own weight. Your socialist economies just can't compete in a free world market, something that even China and the Russians are coming around to. Pretty sad your two shining examples of socialism are invalidated by the fact that their economies suck!
The Cologne-based IW economic institute said in a survey last month that German industry's labor costs are the highest in the world, with 72 percent of 523 companies questioned saying they would hire more staff if the government made headway on lowering the burden.
``The reason that we go more to India and those countries is we get highly skilled young people in a flexible labor market for cheap prices,'' said Henning Kagermann, 56, chief executive officer of SAP, in an interview at the Cebit fair in Hanov
I love the Eurosocialists and their idea of "standard of living" being lots of vacation and little work. Meanwhile, the people who build capital, and thus, the world, are working overtime while going to school at night, building a better world while you sip coffe at a cafe and read poetry.
LOL, we didn't get to the moon - or defeat the Nazis, build a real democracy in Germany, and liberate France - by working 35 hours a week and taking long lunches. Just remember what a little piece of hell all of Europe would be right now if it wasn't for American might and will, followed by setting things right with yet more of our capital (Marshall Plan, NATO).
All you Euros with inferioirity complexes call anything any American says about his country "nationalism." It is a plain fact - not fantasy - that the United States' economic might puts it in lone superpower status.
It is also a fact that any economy built on socialism is doomed. It might not happen today, or tomorrow, but socialism will collapse under its own flawed premises - one of which being the lack of incentive. Take away the incentive (i.e., profit, upward mobility), and nobody wants to work. "You mean, I get paid the same no matter what I do? I can just drink vodka? Cool!" Great for productivity.
a lot of personal earnings in the US are consumed by the cost of health care which is a standard benefit for citizens of other nations.
The idea of personal freedom - so foreign to those who live in nanny states like yourself - also comes with personal responsibility. Many middle class Americans choose to spend hundreds of dollars on cable channels and cell phones and car leases instead of paying for health insurance (the poor have Medicaid). Again, their choice. But I've seen what sociaized medicine does for patient satisfaction and choice: Canadians come to the US for treatment, not the other way around. I say with absolute honesty and confidence that if I were bleeding or sick, I want to be in an American hospital taking drugs made by America's for-profit Big Pharma.
And you eurosocialists don't live in a vacuum. I wonder what your socialist utopias would do without American drugs sold under your price controls - underwritten by American citizens paying five times the price in American pharmacies to pay for your drugs. THAT'S where a lot of Americans' personal earnings are going, paying for YOUR health care.
Rather than shouting "nationalist," I would rather you just say "thank you" and be on your way.
Then how do you explain the ratio of CEO pay to average employee pay being an order of magnitude higher in the US than in other advanced industrialized countries?
Rather than "explain" it, I'll assign it the status of "symptom" of having by far the largest, most powerful economic system on earth. Why would we compare such an economic powerhouse to the machinations of other inefficient economic weaklings of the world? Jeez, California alone has an economy in the top-15 when compared to your "advanced industrialized countries."
I love people who like to compare the US to other countries out of context. IOW, they might have nice, socialist CEO pay, but they also have the othger inevitable trappings of socialism: No abundance of capital, poor standard of living, no innovation, inefficiency, less consumer choice, and less freedom. After all, pure socialism can only be achieved through compulsion.
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery."
-- Winston Churchill
Unlike Lou Dobbs, who has made outsourcing his nightly crusade, and who shouts down anyone who disagress, you seem to want to approach this with some intellectual honesty, rather than an agenda.
I also like the fact that you don't claim to have all the answers in advance. So many reporters and filmakers are too arrogant to ask for assistance. A truly awesome idea to ask everyone you can about this before filming. Nothing pisses me off more than some 60 Minutes piece that (invariably) fails to interview the other side.
Agenda-based "reporters" rarely find the truth. You might find that outsourcing is terrible, but you appear to be objective and thorough, i.e., the opposite of Michael Moore.
My golden question: Ask the labor unions to explain how they can reconcile their push for high wages and benefits which are completely non-competitive with foreign workers, and then have the audacity to complain about outsourcing, rather than take some of the blame (how's that for a leading question?).
I'd also ask the managers of large pension and mutual funds how outsourcing affects their stockholders, and ask them to describe who, exactly, those stockholders are. The answer might surprise most people.
At least in some castes, they are real sharpies. We might be exporting jobs there, but we import a lot of their brains from their best technical schools.
Africa doesn't have the education levels, yet. But when they do, we'll be there.
The US Supreme Court allows only time, place and manner restrictions - not content.
Your point being?
My point being that you claim They have their own criteria what can be allowed and what cannot... This is not true. Again, courts will not allow a government entity to dictate content.
Many immigrants working in the U.S., mostly Muslims had been detained, without charges, no access to lawyers families, or anyone for months at a time.
Of course, they were being held for BEING IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. Just because the US has been criminally negligent in not detaining immigration law violators in the past, doesn't mean we have any obligation to do so. Backlogs on immigration hearings are over 6 months. Why should we let these Aholes wander the country free? Why not detain them? Do we need a trial to prove they're in the country illegally? A visa is either expired or it isn't.
Boy, my heart bleeds for people in the country illegally.
Nonsense. 8th amendment says:
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
It has no word "conviction" in it. Bail does not happen after conviction. If executive branch of the government decides to bypass the judicial branch and decides to inflict punishments itself, and if those punishments are "cruel" or "unusual" then the 8th amendment is violated.
You're an idiot. IAAL. Trust me, the 8th Amendment only attaches POST-CONVICTION. Don't quote me the Amendment. Case law says otherwise, dope. Jesus, non-lawyers thinking they know the law.
What is the point of having the Constitution when it is blatantly disregarded? Want to sell that point to people? Maybe everyone should just give up their rights and blindly trust the government
This kind of hysteria is hard to respond to. What "blatant disregard" are you talking about? As I said, case law dating to the 1940's makes it clear that unlawful combatants that aren't citizens don't have constitutional protections. Maybe you should have raised your concerns 60 years ago, but that is settled law. I guess you think Bin Laden should get a trial too? Can't wait for him to call CIA agents and force them to testify - that will be helpful.
Cities already require their advance approval of any demonstration. They have their own criteria what can be allowed and what cannot..
The US Supreme Court allows only time, place and manner restrictions - not content.
detain suspects for extended periods of time, if not forever, without charging them with anything, giving them access to a lawyer, family, etc.
Only non-citizens outside of the US can be held without charges, and only when classified as unlawful combatants. This was upheld a long time ago by the Supreme Court. So I guess ever single German we caught in WWII should have had a lawyer and trial? That's not what you do in a war.
The US PATRIOT Act and government's actions based thereon, violate 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th amendments,
Again, the Constitution only applies to those in the US or its citizens, not terrorists abroad who have declared war on the country. And the 8th only applies post-conviction anyway. Know your law before you pop-off, please.
Sorry, but I think most Americans aren't too concerned about people sworn to destroy our country and its political and legal system, then squeal like babies for their "rights" under that same system as soon as they are captured.
This is a war, not cops and robbers. Cops and robbers got us a big smoking hole where the WTC used to be.
Given that you have to select an E-mail to delete it, how are users supposed to protect themselves from this one?"
Use an anti-virus program with current defs?
Slashdot Mirror
Jesus H, what's next, the Archer Nebula?
UCLA was also, irnocially, very slow to get a Web site.
Wait, isn't that the essence of censorship?
Sounds like your definition of freedom of expression comes from the Newspeak dictionary.
The Bush administration caved after relentless negative media coverage that began to hurt the GOP and the administration. Not the BA's finest leadership hour (should have stood up to the libs), but this is off-topic since we are dicussing censorship, not lack of leadership. Compare: How the liberal media has not covered the nearly identical Dodd-Byrd flap. Had you even heard of this? I'll bet most people haven't.
6) Ann Coulter, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
Does Larry King count?
No, a single example (I saw the King interview) is not a major premise, it is (faulty) inductive reasoning. Ann Coulter has written extensively and accurately how she was given nowhere near the coverage and interviews on her book tour that Franken was given, Larry King notwithstanding. Coulter, Hannity and O'Reilly were all at times dominating the NY Times Bestseller List and the NYT wouldn't review their books! What an embarassment.I got a Google for you: Search Al Franken's book vs. Coulter's for reviews and TV interviews, then give me your smug Google-before-posting crap. Coulter was virtually shut-out on the broadcast nets. Not to mention Franken's new lib radio network was covered like the Second Coming.
1) Rush Limbaugh, ESPN;
2) Trent Lott, US Senate/US mainstream media;
3) Dr. Laura Schlessinger, gay-right groups;
4) Conservative faulty & speakers, every college campus;
5) Bernard Goldberg, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
6) Ann Coulter, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
7) Sean Hannity, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.
8) Al Franken, oh wait, nevermind.
I look forward to seeing how the /. mods view censorhip here.
Nice cherry-pick of economic numbers there, John Kerry. I don't think your hours worked GDP numbers tell the whole story. For example, we have much higher overall per-capita numbers. If you think an economy should be judged on how much leisure time a nation's peoples have, well we will never speak the same language. France has been around a lot longer than the US, but we produce almost nine times its overall GNP. What about growth? Innovation? Employment? (France and Germany's unemployment numbers are almost twice as high!)
The bottom line is there is trouble in both of your socialist paradises: France has been racing toward a free-market economy to the point where it is becoming merely a very heavily-taxed capitalist economy, and your vaunted 35-hour work week has been killing the economy:
Germany's economy has been in the crapper for years, and its latest numbers look weak. And it seems your socialist welfare state has some outsourcing problems of its own:
Further,
And
Oops! Looks like this socialist utopia is collapsing under its own weight. Your socialist economies just can't compete in a free world market, something that even China and the Russians are coming around to. Pretty sad your two shining examples of socialism are invalidated by the fact that their economies suck!
``The reason that we go more to India and those countries is we get highly skilled young people in a flexible labor market for cheap prices,'' said Henning Kagermann, 56, chief executive officer of SAP, in an interview at the Cebit fair in Hanov
LOL, we didn't get to the moon - or defeat the Nazis, build a real democracy in Germany, and liberate France - by working 35 hours a week and taking long lunches. Just remember what a little piece of hell all of Europe would be right now if it wasn't for American might and will, followed by setting things right with yet more of our capital (Marshall Plan, NATO).
All you Euros with inferioirity complexes call anything any American says about his country "nationalism." It is a plain fact - not fantasy - that the United States' economic might puts it in lone superpower status.
It is also a fact that any economy built on socialism is doomed. It might not happen today, or tomorrow, but socialism will collapse under its own flawed premises - one of which being the lack of incentive. Take away the incentive (i.e., profit, upward mobility), and nobody wants to work. "You mean, I get paid the same no matter what I do? I can just drink vodka? Cool!" Great for productivity.
a lot of personal earnings in the US are consumed by the cost of health care which is a standard benefit for citizens of other nations.
The idea of personal freedom - so foreign to those who live in nanny states like yourself - also comes with personal responsibility. Many middle class Americans choose to spend hundreds of dollars on cable channels and cell phones and car leases instead of paying for health insurance (the poor have Medicaid). Again, their choice. But I've seen what sociaized medicine does for patient satisfaction and choice: Canadians come to the US for treatment, not the other way around. I say with absolute honesty and confidence that if I were bleeding or sick, I want to be in an American hospital taking drugs made by America's for-profit Big Pharma.
And you eurosocialists don't live in a vacuum. I wonder what your socialist utopias would do without American drugs sold under your price controls - underwritten by American citizens paying five times the price in American pharmacies to pay for your drugs. THAT'S where a lot of Americans' personal earnings are going, paying for YOUR health care.
Rather than shouting "nationalist," I would rather you just say "thank you" and be on your way.
Rather than "explain" it, I'll assign it the status of "symptom" of having by far the largest, most powerful economic system on earth. Why would we compare such an economic powerhouse to the machinations of other inefficient economic weaklings of the world? Jeez, California alone has an economy in the top-15 when compared to your "advanced industrialized countries."
I love people who like to compare the US to other countries out of context. IOW, they might have nice, socialist CEO pay, but they also have the othger inevitable trappings of socialism: No abundance of capital, poor standard of living, no innovation, inefficiency, less consumer choice, and less freedom. After all, pure socialism can only be achieved through compulsion.
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery."
-- Winston Churchill
I also like the fact that you don't claim to have all the answers in advance. So many reporters and filmakers are too arrogant to ask for assistance. A truly awesome idea to ask everyone you can about this before filming. Nothing pisses me off more than some 60 Minutes piece that (invariably) fails to interview the other side.
Agenda-based "reporters" rarely find the truth. You might find that outsourcing is terrible, but you appear to be objective and thorough, i.e., the opposite of Michael Moore.
My golden question: Ask the labor unions to explain how they can reconcile their push for high wages and benefits which are completely non-competitive with foreign workers, and then have the audacity to complain about outsourcing, rather than take some of the blame (how's that for a leading question?).
I'd also ask the managers of large pension and mutual funds how outsourcing affects their stockholders, and ask them to describe who, exactly, those stockholders are. The answer might surprise most people.
Good luck!
Africa doesn't have the education levels, yet. But when they do, we'll be there.
"You don a wanna yo microwava to a burna downa yo housa, you paya mia $100 a montha."
Most suspicious.
"objects may be larger than they appear."
I have them all over my bedroom.
I was the one who got the goat-screw.
- unassimilatible.
Which is why Microsoft offers an excellent, low-priced OS, with lots of innovation. Oh yeah, nevermind.
It's called "competition." And there is none, unless you count satellite.
Better alert all of my leftist freaks!
We all know there is no Martian atmosphere, or they wouldn't have built that nuclear atmosphere machine underground.
Your point being?
My point being that you claim They have their own criteria what can be allowed and what cannot... This is not true. Again, courts will not allow a government entity to dictate content.
Many immigrants working in the U.S., mostly Muslims had been detained, without charges, no access to lawyers families, or anyone for months at a time.
Of course, they were being held for BEING IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. Just because the US has been criminally negligent in not detaining immigration law violators in the past, doesn't mean we have any obligation to do so. Backlogs on immigration hearings are over 6 months. Why should we let these Aholes wander the country free? Why not detain them? Do we need a trial to prove they're in the country illegally? A visa is either expired or it isn't.
Boy, my heart bleeds for people in the country illegally.
Nonsense. 8th amendment says:
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
It has no word "conviction" in it. Bail does not happen after conviction. If executive branch of the government decides to bypass the judicial branch and decides to inflict punishments itself, and if those punishments are "cruel" or "unusual" then the 8th amendment is violated.
You're an idiot. IAAL. Trust me, the 8th Amendment only attaches POST-CONVICTION. Don't quote me the Amendment. Case law says otherwise, dope. Jesus, non-lawyers thinking they know the law.
What is the point of having the Constitution when it is blatantly disregarded? Want to sell that point to people? Maybe everyone should just give up their rights and blindly trust the government
This kind of hysteria is hard to respond to. What "blatant disregard" are you talking about? As I said, case law dating to the 1940's makes it clear that unlawful combatants that aren't citizens don't have constitutional protections. Maybe you should have raised your concerns 60 years ago, but that is settled law. I guess you think Bin Laden should get a trial too? Can't wait for him to call CIA agents and force them to testify - that will be helpful.
Cities already require their advance approval of any demonstration. They have their own criteria what can be allowed and what cannot..
The US Supreme Court allows only time, place and manner restrictions - not content.
detain suspects for extended periods of time, if not forever, without charging them with anything, giving them access to a lawyer, family, etc.
Only non-citizens outside of the US can be held without charges, and only when classified as unlawful combatants. This was upheld a long time ago by the Supreme Court. So I guess ever single German we caught in WWII should have had a lawyer and trial? That's not what you do in a war.
The US PATRIOT Act and government's actions based thereon, violate 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th amendments,
Again, the Constitution only applies to those in the US or its citizens, not terrorists abroad who have declared war on the country. And the 8th only applies post-conviction anyway. Know your law before you pop-off, please.
Sorry, but I think most Americans aren't too concerned about people sworn to destroy our country and its political and legal system, then squeal like babies for their "rights" under that same system as soon as they are captured.
This is a war, not cops and robbers. Cops and robbers got us a big smoking hole where the WTC used to be.
Given that you have to select an E-mail to delete it, how are users supposed to protect themselves from this one?" Use an anti-virus program with current defs?
So if I wait long enough, better, faster stuff will come out?
IOW, when armageddon comes - i.e., the LARGE object visits - we'll have a few hours notice.