The Copts would disagree with you. As would several ethnic Christian groups in the far-East that were founded by Apostles other than Peter. Catholicism is as much a branch as they are.
But, is there a gravitational hole in the Indian Ocean? Could it have been an asteroid?
I worked on a system that let a Geologist at my University study the gravity data of the Chicxulub impact structure on the shore of the Yucatan peninsula... Based on that experience, if that gravity hole were caused by an impact I'd expect to see a high gravity area in the center from the mantle "rebounding" back up through the crust following the impact.
On top of that, Chicxulub was a pretty big impact--probably the one that ended the dinosaurs--and you can't even see it at the resolution of that animation. That hole in the Indian Ocean is several orders of magnitude larger. Nearly the size of the continental U.S. Even assuming for the moment the planet wouldn't have just broken up in that impact, I think it's unlikely such a large impact occurred recently enough in geological history to not have been erased by plate tectonics.
For 19019 I see RCN Cable, Verizon, Comcast, and Broadview. When you say you see '10+' results you are noticing that some of those are VoIP only and most of them are multiple listings for the same company, right?
Checking Philadelphia, PA... I see: Verizon FIOS, Comcast, RCN Cable (who I've never heard of...)...
Checking Houston, TX... I see: AT&T and Comcast...
Checking Baton Rouge, LA... I see: AT&T, Cox, 'Home', and MegaPath... Oh, 'Home; is an AT&T user who couldn't figure out how to fill out the form...
Checking Los Angeles, CA... I see: RoadRunner, Time Warner, and AT&T... Oh wait, RoadRunner is Time Warner, scratch that.
Checking Phoenix, AZ... I see: AT&T and Qwest.
That list includes the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 6th US cities by population (only used cities I've visited, sorry). I think my anecdotal evidence is better than your anecdotal evidence.:)
Oh, and speaking as someone who lives in the outskirts of Philadelphia, PA... We don't even have two options here. There's Comcast, and then there's Verizon FIOS... Except that when you check on the service, it's not actually available. So take DSL Reports "availability" with a grain of salt, there's no guarantee you can actually GET service from the providers listed for your area.
I dunno. It seems to be the same argument... "We don't care if you've been able to do something in every desktop environment you've used for fifteen years, our new way is BETTER and we're doing you a FAVOR by taking it away."
For the most part the police recording statues and the enforcement of them is rooted in the idea that the person "in conference" with the police or being arrested is actually deserving of some kind of privacy.
People are not being arrested for recording suspects and/or victims, they're being arrested for recording cops. Regardless, if they're in a public place they don't have an expectation of privacy. If they want privacy, they should go somewhere private.
So, think about exactly what you want. Is photographing the police and recording them something that is OK? Fine, then get the laws changed.
Except we don't have to change the laws, as by-and-large it is not illegal to videotape/record a police officer in public, any law that WOULD make it illegal to do so is obviously unconstitutional, and the attempted subversion of wiretapping laws to try and punish citizens for asserting their constitutional rights is a disgusting behavior that should result in the censure and disbarment of any DA engaging in it.
Parent post does not know what it is talking about.
Actually, I do. And you even admit so later:
So while I agree with parent post about the facts of the difference between PD and FOSS...
As far as your claims...
Public domain code may easily be "'taken away from you'" or from anyone else simply by making trivial modifications to it as it is mixed into development and not making those changes public. There is no requirement that the result be made public; there are no requirements at all on public domain material. Microsoft has done this back in the days of DOS, GeeWhiz BASIC, and woodburning computers. There is no reason to believe the practice has changed.
Except in that case nothing has been done to take the public domain code away from you. Even Microsoft, with its infinite capacity for evil, CANNOT PREVENT YOU FROM USING THE PUBLIC DOMAIN CODE! No amount of changes to their own copy of said public domain code will cause the original public domain source to cease being public domain. Their CHANGES will not be public domain, but that has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the PD status of the original source or your ability to make use of whatever you have invested in said source.
FOSS under GPL or similar viral licenses requires that any changes have to be made public if the product is going to be distributed (as opposed to strictly in house use). blah blah blah blah ...unless it manages to beat itself to death first with a business model that is 50 years or more out of date.
None of this has anything to do with my comment. I'm wondering if you even read my comment--much less comprehended its contents--in your rush to spew out your expert analysis on the software industry. I mean... I'm spewing FUD? Really? Facts can be FUD now? By stating facts I haven't thought things through? Do you even read your own posts?
Really? Your best example is Three Mile Island? If that's the worst case you can come up with, sign me up! The Three Mile Island accident release of radioactivity was infinitesimal compared to the DAILY release of radiation by coal power plants (did you know coal is radioactive?), and every study afterwards has found no discernible health effects on the population... So if you're really using Three Mile Island as an example of why we should keep filling the atmosphere with radioactive soot, then I'll happily ignore your stupidity and forge on ahead with nuclear power.
Plus there is also the issue of what to do with a pile of radioactive waste, that you have to keep well away from lifeforms for "effectively" forever.
It's NOT WASTE! It's useful fuel! We can reprocess it and reuse 99% of it! We just have to pull our heads out of our asses and do it!
Open source comes with a guarantee that no matter what happens to the user's direct provider of the application, he can continue with its use (switch to a different provider, as many are doing in switching from OOo to Libre Office, or even take on the burden of support and development oneself). Public domain is worthless with respect to assuring that your investment in applications will still be of use to you a decade from now. Only open source with its viral licensing assures that.
That is completely false. No matter what happens to the "user's direct provider of the application", public domain code will remain public domain code. Likewise, any investment you make into public domain code CANNOT under any circumstances be "taken away from you". Public Domain vs GPL has no difference in the cases you just cited.
The only time there IS a difference is when you're DISTRIBUTING the code. In that case, any improvements/changes you have made to the code when it's virally licensed must be distributed under the same license. This is not true for PD code, as you can keep changes proprietary. But you WILL NOT ever lose access to that original PD code, nor will you ever lose access to any improvements you have made to the PD code.
Type 2 diabates in most cases is curable within a week by superior diet. You don't have to look far to find lots of evidence for that.
"You don't have to go far..." and yet you still go back to the same questionable source.
The other two I don't know much about. But I can believe diet effects them.
Herpes is a virus. Eating fruits and veggies and thinking happy thoughts will not in any way shape or form cure it.
Lupus meanwhile is a soul-crushingly terrible disease, of which there is no cure and only very little in the way of treatment. If ONE Lupus patient was actually cured (or even effectively treated) by changing their diet, I have to imagine they would have dedicated the rest of their lives to making sure everyone knew about it. The lack of existence of such a person seems to make it unlikely that such a thing is true... Kind of reminds me of Fermi's Paradox...:)
Wait, what? I think you're having a logic fail of your own. My logic may be flawed, but this has nothing to do with the argument found in The Violinist--which has flaws of its own anyway.
If you're looking for a useful analogy, I'd point more towards (even though it involves cars, sadly...) things like speed limit laws. You're not allowed to drive 180mph on a public road because society has agreed the risk it places on others is too great. Whether this is a valid decision or not can be debated, but it's what's currently believed.
Likewise, deciding NOT to vaccinate yourself increases the risk to you significantly while slightly increasing the overall risk for everyone else. This is, I'd argue, even WORSE than the vaccination example, however, as there are people who cannot make use of the safety system being provided themselves and are only protected by the majority of the population using it. Not vaccinating yourself doesn't make you my murderer, but it does make you irresponsible.
And besides that, my point was Maher is a moron for publicly discouraging vaccination! I don't care if he vaccinates himself or not, just don't go around and make use of your status as a public figure to encourage other people to be irresponsible!
I'm not going to get into my individual health history, as that's frankly no one's business but my own, but suffice to say my problem is NOT environmental allergies and no amount of diet modification short of being fed basic nutrients intravenously would probably free me of my allergies.
Now, if you are not following these dietary guidelines, should I get angry with you for putting my own family's health at risk by the same logic you are using in regard to vaccinations?
You can get angry at me for whatever the hell you want, chief. No skin off my nose. But there's a big difference between being unhappy about how someone lives their life and being unhappy about how a public figure ENCOURAGES people to live their life. Telling people that they don't need vaccinations goes beyond just being stupid to being dangerous. Going unvaccinated puts EVERYONE at risk.
On the other hand, not eating your veggies just affects your own health.
To reduce allergies, please look into eating more vegetables and fruits (Dr. Fuhrman) and getting the right amount of vitamin D (Vitamin D Council) -- worked for me.
Glad it worked for you. Trust me when I say it won't work for me.
There are lots of ways to promote wellness; I guess it should be no suprise the slashdot crowd is mostly interested in the magic bullet approach to health (vaccines) instead of holistic basics
I'm sorry, where in my comment did I seem to imply that just taking a vaccine by itself is all that's necessary for health? Oh that's right, I didn't! Address what I said in my comment, not what you imagine I said.
Anyway, given the logic you are using to encourage peopel to get vaccinated, it seems you might want to encourage people to move towards wellness in all these other areas, too?
Yep, it'd be great it everyone is healthy. But barring that, get your damn shots.
If your immune system is weakened, get a flu shot. If you're a hypochondriac munchausens case, we'll, if it will shut you up, go ahead, get a shot. But I believe his point (speculating) is the vast majority of the healthy population doesn't need a flu vaccine.
Then he's an idiot. My immune system IS weakened, but due to the reason it's weakened (severe chronic allergies), I CAN'T take most flu vaccines. People like me depend on "the vast majority of the healthy population" to get vaccinated and protect me by proxy. Yes, it is MOST important for the very young and very old to get vaccinated, but everyone else SHOULD make an effort.
What about all the millions of foreign students and undocumented immigrants who are unable to receive any financial aid at all, even loans?
Please don't lump people willingly subjecting themselves to our broken, stupid, horrifically expensive student visa system in with a bunch of scum sucking bottom feeders with no respect for our laws. Working for a few years in a lab with foreign students who did everything legally (and suffered immensely for it) has destroyed any sympathy I had for illegal aliens.
And what about all those red-blooded American students who nonetheless face massive tuition hikes, library hour cutbacks, childcare cuts? For them, education is very much a matter of class.
No, it's not. Get a job, pay your way. It's possible. You might have to live like an ascetic, and you won't be able to go to a school with a 15k/semester tuition, but you can do it.
You know, my Grandfather lived in Cameron during Audrey. He (finally) listened to my Grandmother and left literally only a couple hours before the storm surge hit. When he went back, all that was left was a slab with two dinner plates on it. He took the hint, they lived in Lafayette for the rest of his life.
I really think we should establish a time period, wherein if your property gets wiped out by the same natural disaster twice in that period you get your insurance money and then we condemn the property as not fit for permanent habitation, because this is getting ridiculous.
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The Copts would disagree with you. As would several ethnic Christian groups in the far-East that were founded by Apostles other than Peter. Catholicism is as much a branch as they are.
I'm no geologist as well, but I think the explanation you just offered sounds very plausible. :)
I worked on a system that let a Geologist at my University study the gravity data of the Chicxulub impact structure on the shore of the Yucatan peninsula... Based on that experience, if that gravity hole were caused by an impact I'd expect to see a high gravity area in the center from the mantle "rebounding" back up through the crust following the impact.
On top of that, Chicxulub was a pretty big impact--probably the one that ended the dinosaurs--and you can't even see it at the resolution of that animation. That hole in the Indian Ocean is several orders of magnitude larger. Nearly the size of the continental U.S. Even assuming for the moment the planet wouldn't have just broken up in that impact, I think it's unlikely such a large impact occurred recently enough in geological history to not have been erased by plate tectonics.
Pearl Harbor just made me hate Americans... One American, specifically... Michael Bey.
19019 doesn't return Speakeasy, Earthlink, Hotwire, or Cavalier when I search it?
Cricket and Clearwire are wireless providers.
For 19019 I see RCN Cable, Verizon, Comcast, and Broadview. When you say you see '10+' results you are noticing that some of those are VoIP only and most of them are multiple listings for the same company, right?
Checking Philadelphia, PA... I see: Verizon FIOS, Comcast, RCN Cable (who I've never heard of...)...
Checking Houston, TX... I see: AT&T and Comcast...
Checking Baton Rouge, LA... I see: AT&T, Cox, 'Home', and MegaPath... Oh, 'Home; is an AT&T user who couldn't figure out how to fill out the form...
Checking Los Angeles, CA... I see: RoadRunner, Time Warner, and AT&T... Oh wait, RoadRunner is Time Warner, scratch that.
Checking Phoenix, AZ... I see: AT&T and Qwest.
That list includes the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 6th US cities by population (only used cities I've visited, sorry). I think my anecdotal evidence is better than your anecdotal evidence. :)
Oh, and speaking as someone who lives in the outskirts of Philadelphia, PA... We don't even have two options here. There's Comcast, and then there's Verizon FIOS... Except that when you check on the service, it's not actually available. So take DSL Reports "availability" with a grain of salt, there's no guarantee you can actually GET service from the providers listed for your area.
You're right. Let's get rid of oil refineries and fossil-fuel based power plants, they tend to explode when damaged.
I dunno. It seems to be the same argument... "We don't care if you've been able to do something in every desktop environment you've used for fifteen years, our new way is BETTER and we're doing you a FAVOR by taking it away."
Where does the Constitution give the government the right to stop me?
People are not being arrested for recording suspects and/or victims, they're being arrested for recording cops. Regardless, if they're in a public place they don't have an expectation of privacy. If they want privacy, they should go somewhere private.
Except we don't have to change the laws, as by-and-large it is not illegal to videotape/record a police officer in public, any law that WOULD make it illegal to do so is obviously unconstitutional, and the attempted subversion of wiretapping laws to try and punish citizens for asserting their constitutional rights is a disgusting behavior that should result in the censure and disbarment of any DA engaging in it.
A public official has no expectation of privacy while going about their official duties... Believing anything else is insanity.
Wow this is starting to sound like "How do I create a desktop shortcut in KDE 4?" but even more boneheaded on the part of the devs...
Actually, I do. And you even admit so later:
As far as your claims...
Except in that case nothing has been done to take the public domain code away from you. Even Microsoft, with its infinite capacity for evil, CANNOT PREVENT YOU FROM USING THE PUBLIC DOMAIN CODE! No amount of changes to their own copy of said public domain code will cause the original public domain source to cease being public domain. Their CHANGES will not be public domain, but that has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the PD status of the original source or your ability to make use of whatever you have invested in said source.
None of this has anything to do with my comment. I'm wondering if you even read my comment--much less comprehended its contents--in your rush to spew out your expert analysis on the software industry. I mean... I'm spewing FUD? Really? Facts can be FUD now? By stating facts I haven't thought things through? Do you even read your own posts?
Really? Your best example is Three Mile Island? If that's the worst case you can come up with, sign me up! The Three Mile Island accident release of radioactivity was infinitesimal compared to the DAILY release of radiation by coal power plants (did you know coal is radioactive?), and every study afterwards has found no discernible health effects on the population... So if you're really using Three Mile Island as an example of why we should keep filling the atmosphere with radioactive soot, then I'll happily ignore your stupidity and forge on ahead with nuclear power.
It's NOT WASTE! It's useful fuel! We can reprocess it and reuse 99% of it! We just have to pull our heads out of our asses and do it!
That is completely false. No matter what happens to the "user's direct provider of the application", public domain code will remain public domain code. Likewise, any investment you make into public domain code CANNOT under any circumstances be "taken away from you". Public Domain vs GPL has no difference in the cases you just cited.
The only time there IS a difference is when you're DISTRIBUTING the code. In that case, any improvements/changes you have made to the code when it's virally licensed must be distributed under the same license. This is not true for PD code, as you can keep changes proprietary. But you WILL NOT ever lose access to that original PD code, nor will you ever lose access to any improvements you have made to the PD code.
"You don't have to go far..." and yet you still go back to the same questionable source.
Herpes is a virus. Eating fruits and veggies and thinking happy thoughts will not in any way shape or form cure it.
Lupus meanwhile is a soul-crushingly terrible disease, of which there is no cure and only very little in the way of treatment. If ONE Lupus patient was actually cured (or even effectively treated) by changing their diet, I have to imagine they would have dedicated the rest of their lives to making sure everyone knew about it. The lack of existence of such a person seems to make it unlikely that such a thing is true... Kind of reminds me of Fermi's Paradox... :)
Wait, what? I think you're having a logic fail of your own. My logic may be flawed, but this has nothing to do with the argument found in The Violinist--which has flaws of its own anyway.
If you're looking for a useful analogy, I'd point more towards (even though it involves cars, sadly...) things like speed limit laws. You're not allowed to drive 180mph on a public road because society has agreed the risk it places on others is too great. Whether this is a valid decision or not can be debated, but it's what's currently believed.
Likewise, deciding NOT to vaccinate yourself increases the risk to you significantly while slightly increasing the overall risk for everyone else. This is, I'd argue, even WORSE than the vaccination example, however, as there are people who cannot make use of the safety system being provided themselves and are only protected by the majority of the population using it. Not vaccinating yourself doesn't make you my murderer, but it does make you irresponsible.
And besides that, my point was Maher is a moron for publicly discouraging vaccination! I don't care if he vaccinates himself or not, just don't go around and make use of your status as a public figure to encourage other people to be irresponsible!
I'm not going to get into my individual health history, as that's frankly no one's business but my own, but suffice to say my problem is NOT environmental allergies and no amount of diet modification short of being fed basic nutrients intravenously would probably free me of my allergies.
You can get angry at me for whatever the hell you want, chief. No skin off my nose. But there's a big difference between being unhappy about how someone lives their life and being unhappy about how a public figure ENCOURAGES people to live their life. Telling people that they don't need vaccinations goes beyond just being stupid to being dangerous. Going unvaccinated puts EVERYONE at risk.
On the other hand, not eating your veggies just affects your own health.
Glad it worked for you. Trust me when I say it won't work for me.
I'm sorry, where in my comment did I seem to imply that just taking a vaccine by itself is all that's necessary for health? Oh that's right, I didn't! Address what I said in my comment, not what you imagine I said.
Yep, it'd be great it everyone is healthy. But barring that, get your damn shots.
Then he's an idiot. My immune system IS weakened, but due to the reason it's weakened (severe chronic allergies), I CAN'T take most flu vaccines. People like me depend on "the vast majority of the healthy population" to get vaccinated and protect me by proxy. Yes, it is MOST important for the very young and very old to get vaccinated, but everyone else SHOULD make an effort.
Speaking as someone who has a Motorola Backflip, I will tell you one thing the back of a device DOES get used for: Holding the fricking thing!
It may just be that my phone sucks (which it does), but I'm not sold on the whole "touchpad on the back idea" after using it for a few months...
Please don't lump people willingly subjecting themselves to our broken, stupid, horrifically expensive student visa system in with a bunch of scum sucking bottom feeders with no respect for our laws. Working for a few years in a lab with foreign students who did everything legally (and suffered immensely for it) has destroyed any sympathy I had for illegal aliens.
No, it's not. Get a job, pay your way. It's possible. You might have to live like an ascetic, and you won't be able to go to a school with a 15k/semester tuition, but you can do it.
There was a video game about this, as well...
You know, my Grandfather lived in Cameron during Audrey. He (finally) listened to my Grandmother and left literally only a couple hours before the storm surge hit. When he went back, all that was left was a slab with two dinner plates on it. He took the hint, they lived in Lafayette for the rest of his life.
I really think we should establish a time period, wherein if your property gets wiped out by the same natural disaster twice in that period you get your insurance money and then we condemn the property as not fit for permanent habitation, because this is getting ridiculous.