Much like Flash has become a daily problem, this too will be exploited. These exploits will probably be available even before the "free" Windows is released.
He'll probably feel bad till he updates his CV: "While working for a major European ISP, retasked existing storage and eliminated the need for a costly SAN expansion."
"If you're not drawing people advertisements won't do much."
This is entirely untrue. Advertising has become increasingly common on AOL and is a factor in driving customers away. So it will have an effect, just not the effect they are hoping for.
If the computers ever actually reach a child, that will be true. But in countries so corrupted by years of war and famine, more likely the computers will be resold to a secondary market or used for criminal enterprises. Much like the current donations.
Nice dream, I just don't see it happening as planned.
"It may be too much to ask, but do you think that you could elevate the discussion a bit by presenting information to support your assertion that the GP is incorrect?"
But why? This is so much more fun. Tit for tat.
The rendering engine is an integral part of Windows. It is used by multiple processes (Active Desktop, Outlook Express, etc...) The grand parent asserts that Active Desktop is seldom used. But how many average users turn it off? How many times have you had a user call because some web site has replaced the default desktop with a advertisement warning about spyware or pr0n? If you turn off Active Desktop, do those processes unload? For the most part, they don't. They sit there like a puppy at the dinner table, waiting, begging for you to drop some scrap to be rendered.
The original post claimed that IE was pre-loaded. TheNetAvenger asserts (LOUDLY), that it is not. What is IE? Is it just the wrapper for the rendering engine? What is the footprint of all those required processes?
The TheNetAvenger post asserts (LOUDLY) that IE cannot access DLL's currently in memory. Following that logic, IE must load it's own copy of the same rendering engine, yet looking at a memory map, unless something is broken and a process has been orphaned, there is only one instance. His assertions fly in the face of Microsoft's own claims of IE being integral to Windows. Shared objects like DLL's are written to be loaded once and used by multiple external processes. If the FireFox developers wanted to use the same rendering engine, the one that must not be part of IE because let's remember now, by those assertions, IE isn't pre-loaded, they could. And they would be subject to the same flaws and frailties as IE because the underlying structure is vulnerable. Instead they built their own rendering engine with their own flaws and frailties that, well, is still vulnerable because we're talking Windows, right?
Proof by repeated assertion works in politics, marketing and Slashdot.
It's not quite like passively listening to a radio broadcast. More like using your Mr Microphone outside the station window to talk to your friends in Boise. You impact their ability to use the service they pay for by transmitting packets.
The Nigerian Government has apparently already cracked down on the "wonderful opportunitys involving 23 millions". As a direct result, that balance has apparently grown to over "40 millions". Being a slacker, I dropped the ball and failed to collect. Maybe you can hold out for more.
As for US sources... I guess existing law isn't enough because rather than criminal penalties, they are merely ignored or fined and sent on their way as their sponsors move to the next huckster.
We know who most of these people are. We've known for years.
That's swell for the big three, but there are probably thousands of smaller companies that purchase debt, real or perceived, and then harrass former customers, hoping for a moment of weakness and an offer of settlement.
Sure you can... unless you signed up by credit/debit card or eft. If that's the case, your only recourse is to close the account. Of course their response may be to send your AOL account to a collection agency after their internal collection fails.
So if you see a fat suicide bomber holding a box of Twinkies, you should really worry?
I've had primary lithium cells "vent" (I called it an explosion, but the manufacturer disagreed), I even have photos of the aftermath. It's a very rapid process and creates enough compression to disassemble things much like a genuine explosive device. The batteries themselves as well as the container become flaming projectiles in cases like mine. I have burnt carpet to prove it. This "venting" can even take place hours AFTER the batteries are depleted. My battery failure had a mass of less than an ounce (1 3V 123A Ultralast cell manufactured by North American Battery Company) and it destroyed a flashlight and lit my carpet on fire.
Admittedly, I didn't have my chronograph running quickly enough to determine if it happened within a tenth of a millisecond, but it was lickity split(TM) and very, very LOUD. So while it may not pack the same punch as TNT, I'd still prefer it not impact my more delicate parts.
Manufacturers of devices dependant upon lithium batteries are well versed in the dangers of using poorly designed batteries and will readily communicate preferred brands as well as caution against others. You should probably believe them.
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Well, thank you, but if you do that, you miss http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?com mand=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9002206, which was unfortunately much more interesting than the intended article.
Much like Flash has become a daily problem, this too will be exploited. These exploits will probably be available even before the "free" Windows is released.
"more than just students, but i am more hands on with them"
Current district guidelines prohibit this so called "hands on" approach. Please report to the office immediately.
He'll probably feel bad till he updates his CV: "While working for a major European ISP, retasked existing storage and eliminated the need for a costly SAN expansion."
"If you're not drawing people advertisements won't do much."
This is entirely untrue. Advertising has become increasingly common on AOL and is a factor in driving customers away. So it will have an effect, just not the effect they are hoping for.
If the computers ever actually reach a child, that will be true. But in countries so corrupted by years of war and famine, more likely the computers will be resold to a secondary market or used for criminal enterprises. Much like the current donations.
Nice dream, I just don't see it happening as planned.
The reference article is wrong. It uses engines similar to http://www.jetcatusa.com/p160.html
"I guess the question has to go to NetAvenger..."
Oh, PFFFTTT... You're taking all the fun out of this by asking for clarification.
"It may be too much to ask, but do you think that you could elevate the discussion a bit by presenting information to support your assertion that the GP is incorrect?"
But why? This is so much more fun. Tit for tat.
The rendering engine is an integral part of Windows. It is used by multiple processes (Active Desktop, Outlook Express, etc...) The grand parent asserts that Active Desktop is seldom used. But how many average users turn it off? How many times have you had a user call because some web site has replaced the default desktop with a advertisement warning about spyware or pr0n? If you turn off Active Desktop, do those processes unload? For the most part, they don't. They sit there like a puppy at the dinner table, waiting, begging for you to drop some scrap to be rendered.
The original post claimed that IE was pre-loaded. TheNetAvenger asserts (LOUDLY), that it is not. What is IE? Is it just the wrapper for the rendering engine? What is the footprint of all those required processes?
The TheNetAvenger post asserts (LOUDLY) that IE cannot access DLL's currently in memory. Following that logic, IE must load it's own copy of the same rendering engine, yet looking at a memory map, unless something is broken and a process has been orphaned, there is only one instance. His assertions fly in the face of Microsoft's own claims of IE being integral to Windows. Shared objects like DLL's are written to be loaded once and used by multiple external processes. If the FireFox developers wanted to use the same rendering engine, the one that must not be part of IE because let's remember now, by those assertions, IE isn't pre-loaded, they could. And they would be subject to the same flaws and frailties as IE because the underlying structure is vulnerable. Instead they built their own rendering engine with their own flaws and frailties that, well, is still vulnerable because we're talking Windows, right?
Proof by repeated assertion works in politics, marketing and Slashdot.
"but most notable is what some perceive as a willingness to cooperate which critics say has been lacking in the past."
Translate that to "Hey! I've got a great idea for a project... build it for me for free, k? You're a jerk if you don't... probably hate puppies too."
It's not quite like passively listening to a radio broadcast. More like using your Mr Microphone outside the station window to talk to your friends in Boise. You impact their ability to use the service they pay for by transmitting packets.
If he Scotchgarded(TM) his suit, the charges won't stick anyway.
The Nigerian Government has apparently already cracked down on the "wonderful opportunitys involving 23 millions". As a direct result, that balance has apparently grown to over "40 millions". Being a slacker, I dropped the ball and failed to collect. Maybe you can hold out for more.
As for US sources... I guess existing law isn't enough because rather than criminal penalties, they are merely ignored or fined and sent on their way as their sponsors move to the next huckster.
We know who most of these people are. We've known for years.
That's swell for the big three, but there are probably thousands of smaller companies that purchase debt, real or perceived, and then harrass former customers, hoping for a moment of weakness and an offer of settlement.
Sure you can... unless you signed up by credit/debit card or eft. If that's the case, your only recourse is to close the account. Of course their response may be to send your AOL account to a collection agency after their internal collection fails.
AOL is evil
"Also, consider backing up over a network to another server"
That's exactly what Bittorrent is for. Isn't it?
So if you see a fat suicide bomber holding a box of Twinkies, you should really worry?
I've had primary lithium cells "vent" (I called it an explosion, but the manufacturer disagreed), I even have photos of the aftermath. It's a very rapid process and creates enough compression to disassemble things much like a genuine explosive device. The batteries themselves as well as the container become flaming projectiles in cases like mine. I have burnt carpet to prove it. This "venting" can even take place hours AFTER the batteries are depleted. My battery failure had a mass of less than an ounce (1 3V 123A Ultralast cell manufactured by North American Battery Company) and it destroyed a flashlight and lit my carpet on fire.
Admittedly, I didn't have my chronograph running quickly enough to determine if it happened within a tenth of a millisecond, but it was lickity split(TM) and very, very LOUD. So while it may not pack the same punch as TNT, I'd still prefer it not impact my more delicate parts.
Manufacturers of devices dependant upon lithium batteries are well versed in the dangers of using poorly designed batteries and will readily communicate preferred brands as well as caution against others. You should probably believe them.
"I'd recommend a pellet gun or slingshot..."
Yeah, that's it! A giant slingshot. Just load all those toads up, pull back the bands and send em home.
"Just because a lot of people do it doesn't make it legal, moral or right."
Ummm... try telling that to any other group that has been harrassed by stupid laws. Why don't you start with homosexuals? 55's the limit.
You must've been The Little Lemming That Could. Standing at the edge of the precipice while your friends were getting laid.
How dare you! Clearly our President is the man to lead us to salvation. Just look at the statistics. http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&wo rd1=george+bush&word2=burning+bush
No. The Patriot Act coupled with the DMCA specifically prohibit unauthorized copying of DNA by infants.
Hmmm... isn't denial a subtle confirmation of addiction?
Tried Vonage; didn't like it; walked away and left my money on the table. The money lost wasn't significant enough to warrant the time.
"I work for an unnamed backbone provider"
Makes it kinda hard to cash the checks, huh?
Offsite backup poles?