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Army Sent to Fight Millions of Invading Toxic Toads

Reporter writes "The Australian state government called for the army to be deployed against the invasion of toxic toads! Battalions of imported cane toads are marching relentlessly across northern Australia and the West Australian government wants soldiers to intercept the environmental barbarians. From the article: "The toads, Bufo Marinus, were introduced from South America into northeast Queensland state in the 1930s to control another pest: Beetles that were ravaging the sugar cane fields of the tropical northern coasts. But the toads now number in the millions and are spreading westward through the Northern Territory, upsetting the country's ecosystem in their wake. Cane toads have poisonous sacs on the back of their heads full of a venom so powerful it can kill crocodiles, snakes or other predators in minutes." More information about cane toads at Wikipedia."

273 comments

  1. Very Little Information by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, the article doesn't say much about what the army is supposed to do except kill them. I highly doubt that's the strategy and, after being raised on farms in my youth, it's easier to use a trap or target the nests than to get down on your hands and knees and kill each and every one of them. In fact, even if you killed all the visible ones, how do you kill/remove all the tadpoles and eggs from the ponds and water in Australia? It would be obviously stupid to try to introduce another foreign species that might rampage about the land. Especially one that would be immune to the toad's toxin.

    It's odd that they deploy the military considering that current government research has been directed towards isolating a sex pheremone to disrupt the breeding cycle. The government fact sheet suggests removing the jelly strings of eggs from water & humane execution of adult cane toads. There are guides on Cane Toad control that talk about using traps but what do you do with the toads after you trap them. Will the Australian military be trudging through wetlands and collecting toad eggs while smashing the adults with specialized mallets? No one is alluding to the method of the military.

    Perhaps this is some left over funding that was appropriated to the military and now they feel like they have to spend it? Either way, I don't live in North Eastern Australia so I don't know what level of effect these toads are truly having.

    Here's a humorous Google Video on the cane toad. It's more just a dabble in CGI by film makers but I thought it worth mentioning given the topic.

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    1. Re:Very Little Information by Tx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, politicians like to be seen to be doing something, and nothing sends out the "we're in charge and on the case" message like sending in the army.

      Still I'm sure they have some idea how the army would be used. Locally deployed poison?

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    2. Re:Very Little Information by nizo · · Score: 1, Funny

      I think it is safe to say that whenever in doubt, a government should simply send in the troops to make it seem like something is being done, even if they mostly just sit around watching the toads hop by. At least the people will feel safer anyway. Plus the government officials can now say they are doing something, instead of staring at the cameras with a blank look on their faces. I wonder who will get the government contract to sell the army their $290/each whacking sticks?

    3. Re:Very Little Information by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Insightful
      it's easier to use a trap or target the nests
      Nests? Of toads? Now you're really scaring me, if they've evolved parenting.

      The white paper is probably spot-on: Kill the adults, destroy the eggs. Lather, rinse, repeat for each breeding cycle.

      It might cost a lot, but it is possible. The most expensive part will be eradicating isolated resevoirs of breeding populations.

      As to what you do after you trap them: make fertilizer out of them.
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    4. Re:Very Little Information by JohnnyLocust · · Score: 3, Funny

      humane execution of adult cane toads

      You mean like this? -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_gun

    5. Re:Very Little Information by mspohr · · Score: 3, Insightful
      In the USA, we're sending the army to stop people crossing our southern border. This will be about as useful as Australia sending their army to stop the toads.

      Idiot politicians will reap big benefits for "doing something" about the problem from the idiot voters (in case you couldn't tell, "idiot voters" are in the majority in the USA).

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    6. Re:Very Little Information by WalksOnDirt · · Score: 3, Informative
      Many frogs are good parents (for amphibians anyhow). Maybe some toads are too.
      Some frogs also look after their eggs--and in some cases even the tadpoles--for some time after laying.
      (From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog)
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    7. Re:Very Little Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      National Guard != Army

    8. Re:Very Little Information by aplusjimages · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope months from now there is a /. post about how troops are losing the war on toads.

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    9. Re:Very Little Information by ScottLindner · · Score: 0

      Sell them to the French as frog legs?

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    10. Re:Very Little Information by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      We need to harness the power of the internet to defeat this nemesis!

      I propose a modified version of Internet Hunting.

      Just set up a line of stations like those, and put them under control of gamers "defending the planet" using their Xboxes. Its a game both hunters and environmentalists will relish.

      Problem solved.

    11. Re:Very Little Information by Millenniumman · · Score: 1

      Why will it be useless? It certainly seems logical that more personnel will be able to do a more effective job. And it is certainly possible to stop people from crossing the border. How can the army stop toads?

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    12. Re:Very Little Information by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1
      Still I'm sure they have some idea how the army would be used. Locally deployed poison?

      My guess is that the plan involves having lots of manpower. Armies also have lots of manpower, which sits idle most of the time, but you have to keep them around "just in case". Somebody in the Australian government put two and two together...

    13. Re:Very Little Information by Pink+Tinkletini · · Score: 1

      Don't tell the President. Or Rove, for that matter.

    14. Re:Very Little Information by vk2 · · Score: 1

      Its the Australian govt ploy to pull out troops from Iraq without getting rotten eggs over their face.

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    15. Re:Very Little Information by mspohr · · Score: 1
      Have you ever seen the border?

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    16. Re:Very Little Information by smackt4rd · · Score: 1

      Forget the army, they need sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!

    17. Re:Very Little Information by QuesarVII · · Score: 1

      One big difference between stopping toads and stopping illegal immigrants... you can kill the toads on sight.

      Even if they're not able to 100% eliminate the toads, they will at least be able to severely reduce the numbers, buying more time for threatened native species.

    18. Re:Very Little Information by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      Everybody knows the best way to kill a CaneToad is to drive over it to hear it POP...

      No Australian natives were harmed in the making of this comment

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    19. Re:Very Little Information by NoMaster · · Score: 1
      ... humane execution of adult cane toads.
      As much as I hate the poisonous warty brown little bastards, it's interesting to note that the humane techniques for killing them are much more effective than the inhumane. Whilst they have been observed to re-ingest their own internals and continue on their merry way after being run over, and I have personally seen one still living (with its guts hanging out its back) 3 weeks after being stabbed repeatedly with a pitchfork, the two common humane methods of killing them - freezing them, or severing the brain stem - are 100% effective.

      And here's the original source of that google video, if you want it in its full QT or DivX glory...

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    20. Re:Very Little Information by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1
      My guess is that the plan involves having lots of manpower.

      No, its more about getting access to the areas where the toads are advancing into Western Australia.

      Basically, the toads are progressing towards WA in an area of the north-west controlled by the army. Civilian volunteers and CALM (Conservation and Land Management) personnel are unable to access massive areas of land as they are restricted to Defence personnel, so (WA) state environment minister, Mark McGowan has asked the federal defence minister for access and help.

      Mr McGowan, a former naval lieutenant, said he was not asking for a battalion but two dozen or more personnel to help "fight them in the field".
      http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867 ,19513556-2702,00.html
      The most likely role for the army would be to drive the scientists and field workers to the more remote parts of the range. It's pretty tough country.
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    21. Re:Very Little Information by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      1. They're training soldiers for the upcoming war on Iran.

      2. "Get ... the ... boy!!!!"

      Actually, that's all I had.

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    22. Re:Very Little Information by Techman83 · · Score: 1

      Well the use of the term "Army" is slightly mis-leading. West Aussies and people from the Northern Territory are being called together and fight the invasion.

      And in an effort to stem "cruelty" the RSPCA are offering a can of beer per toad and the toads are then turned into liquid fetiliser....

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    23. Re:Very Little Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this will be about as useful as Australia sending their army to stop the toads

      Not so fast there. How many millions of tax dollars will be needed for this project? How much goes to administration and their associate contractors in the "private" sector? How much will government expand in power and revenue as a result?

      Doesn't seem so useless now, does it? You've got to start thinking like a politician.

    24. Re:Very Little Information by mspohr · · Score: 1
      Thanks for this additional information from the front lines.

      I'm not clear about this though... in order to stem "cruelty", is the frog supposed to drink the beer before it is killed?

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    25. Re:Very Little Information by shredluc · · Score: 1

      How dare you call us "idiot voters".

      Most Americans don't vote - so next time get your facts straight. :)

  2. Seargent! Are you licking that toad? by dmatos · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not not licking this toad.

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  3. A solution by mypalmike · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fortunately, there's an easy solution to this problem. It turns out that these toads can be made sterile if they eat enough kudzu, which they find to be extremely tasty. Just plant enough kudzu and this problem goes away completely.

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    1. Re:A solution by bano · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yea they need Kudzu, Grass Carp, Zebra Mussles, and fireants to fix the toad problem.

    2. Re:A solution by EnderGT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure the parent poster was being more than a little sarcastic...

    3. Re:A solution by ToxikFetus · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think your sarcasm detector is broken. If you bought the Craftsman model, return it to your nearest Sears retailer for a free replacement.

    4. Re:A solution by drsquare · · Score: 1

      And once the kudzu gets out of hand, just introduce a colony of snakes which feed on kudzu.

    5. Re:A solution by slashbob22 · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I had realized that as I pressed submit. My sarcasm detector was on the fritz; apparantly I did too much toad last night.

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    6. Re:A solution by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      And as everyone knows, the snakes will die out when winter sets in. Problem solved.

    7. Re:A solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boo! You forgot the gorillas!

    8. Re:A solution by Kelson · · Score: 1

      And as everyone knows, the snakes will die out when winter sets in. Problem solved.

      Sure, unless somone decides to put those snakes on a plane.

    9. Re:A solution by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Ya, I knew there was one more, but couldn't remember it. Oh well.

    10. Re:A solution by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      You forgot Rabbits, Foxes and Boneseed...

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    11. Re:A solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then you'll have to get the Mother Fuckin' Snakes off the Mother Fuckin' Plane!!

    12. Re:A solution by tehdaemon · · Score: 1
      There was an old lady..."

      (my first thought when reading this.)

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  4. Oh, the poetic justice! by Wooster_UK · · Score: 5, Funny

    So evolved toxic toads are invading Darwin? You just can't make this sort of material up! I await posts of craven submission from Slashdotters willing to co-operate with the toxic toads.

    1. Re:Oh, the poetic justice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, welcome our toxic toadly masters.

    2. Re:Oh, the poetic justice! by gone_bush · · Score: 1

      As a slashdotting resident of Darwin I indeed look forward to their arrival. Just think what they will do to my golf handicap?!

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  5. So hungry... by RingDev · · Score: 4, Funny

    "that talk about using traps but what do you do with the toads after you trap them"

    mmmmm... Lunch.

    -Rick

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    1. Re:So hungry... by RsG · · Score: 3, Funny

      You do know that these are the "painful death" kind of toxic, right? Not the lickable "I'm so stoned!" variety? :-P

      Though come to think of it, I'm not sure I'd want to actually try and eat a regular hallucenogenic toad whole either....

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    2. Re:So hungry... by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

      Wow. A Jim Jones follower. I didn't think there were any left.

      You did read the part where these toads are poisonous enough to kill large reptiles, right?

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    3. Re:So hungry... by lonesome+phreak · · Score: 1

      I'm not not licking toads!

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    4. Re:So hungry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      good thing we aren't large reptiles!

    5. Re:So hungry... by tekiegreg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mr. AC makes a subtle point. For example there are Spiders out there that produce enough poison to kill humans, yet have Wasps as natural predators who are immune to Spider Bites, we quite well could be resistant or immune to Cane Toad Venom as well. All the same don't expect me to go around eating Cane Toads...

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    6. Re:So hungry... by starkraven · · Score: 3, Funny

      You did read the part where these toads are poisonous enough to kill large reptiles, right?

      Finally, we discover what really happened to the dinosaurs! I guess they were just looking for a buzz too....

    7. Re:So hungry... by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      we quite well could be resistant or immune to Cane Toad Venom as well

      We are resistant to cane toad venom. Our adaptation is specifically the ability to be smart enough not to ingest the stuff.

    8. Re:So hungry... by binkzz · · Score: 1

      There are no wasps immune to spider bites; only wasps who are very good at not getting bitten.

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    9. Re:So hungry... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1
      Our adaptation is specifically the ability to be smart enough not to ingest the stuff.

      You'd think so, wouldn't you? But no, there are actually people who lick them and even make them into tea.

      The toad of choice is the Cane Toad, a tropical green and red toad that's a favorite among aquarium habitues. It secretes a toxin, called bufotenine to ward off predators. Ingesting bufotenine - by licking the toad, or killing it and boiling it's skin for a foul-tasting TEA - will give you a high similar to that of psilocybin (a hallucinogen found in certain mushrooms).
      http://www.erowid.org/animals/toads/toads_media3.s html
      Cuppa anyone?
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    10. Re:So hungry... by smartfart · · Score: 1
      I'm pretty sure they are the licking kind... if you lick too much, you get a lethal dose, etc.

      But this story reminds me of the old joke about the man wanting to get rid of mice, so he got a cat, then had to get a dog, and later an elephant, and eventually he decided to get more mice and learn to live with them. Australia sticks in my mind as having a particularly bad run of vermin eradication misfires throughout its history.

  6. Again!? by stinerman · · Score: 5, Funny

    You'd assume they learned their lesson from importing the rabbits.

    New species + no predators = I, for one, welcome our new poisonous toad overlords!

    1. Re:Again!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All Glory To The Hypnotoad!

      http://www.r33b.net/

    2. Re:Again!? by Mr.+Jackson · · Score: 1

      Yep. And if you bring in army men to fight them, and they breed out of control, what then?

    3. Re:Again!? by Digital+Autumn · · Score: 1

      Perhaps that's why the Australian government just recently talked about letting Americans build some military bases in Australia. They're finally thinking ahead!

    4. Re:Again!? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Well, traditionally, the solution was male-only armed forces, so unless they have some reptilian DNA in them, they couldn't reproduce. I don't recall any stories about a member of the military spontaneously changing gender, so that worked pretty well, barring the few women who managed to slip in. (Although I have no evidence that any of said women were already women when they joined.)

      With the demand for women we now have joining, the only real solution is an entirely homosexual force. (Technically, we could just have one gender be homosexual, but that's a bit risky. If both are, the odds of two hetrosexual people of opposite genders who accidently slipped in is greatly reduced.)

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    5. Re:Again!? by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      Poisonous, HALLUCINOGENIC toad overlords.

  7. Not to worry by InterruptDescriptorT · · Score: 5, Funny

    We'll lick these toxic toads one way or another.

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    1. Re:Not to worry by drew+shroomz · · Score: 1

      When cane toads are outlawed, only outlaws will have cane toads!

  8. oblig. simpsons by tscheez · · Score: 5, Funny

    KENT
    Our top story, the population of parasitic tree lizards has exploded, and local citizens couldn't be happier! It seems the rapacious reptiles have developed a taste for the common pigeon, also known as the 'feathered rat', or the 'gutter bird'. For the first time, citizens need not fear harassment by flocks of chattering disease-bags.

    Later, Bart receives an award from Mayor Quimby outside the town hall. Several lizards slink past.

    QUIMBY
    For decimating our pigeon population, and making Springfield a less oppressive place to while away our worthless lives, I present you with this scented candle.

    Skinner talks to Lisa.

    SKINNER
    Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

    LISA
    But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

    SKINNER
    No problem. We simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

    LISA
    But aren't the snakes even worse?

    SKINNER
    Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

    LISA
    But then we're stuck with gorillas!

    SKINNER
    No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

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    1. Re:oblig. simpsons by aberson · · Score: 2, Funny
      how about from Bart vs. Australia when bart introduces frogs to australia...

      "A subplot through the episode where Bart brought his pet frog into the country past customs. where it reproduces and spread rapidly throughout the country and ruins Australia's ecology (a reference to the actual introduction of non-native Cane Toads into Australia.)"

      I can't find the exact quote, but it's something like:

      Lisa: That's a frog
      Australian guy: Frog? That's a funny name for it. I'd have called it a wopple-dinger

    2. Re:oblig. simpsons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Chazzwozzer.

    3. Re:oblig. simpsons by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Loganberry

    4. Re:oblig. simpsons by psililisp · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or the Bart vs. Australia episode:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_vs._Australia

      Owner: [sweeping a bunch of toads out] Get out, get out! Shoo, shoo.
                    Get out of here, yuck! These bloody things are everywhere.
                    They're in the lift, in the lorry, in the bond wizard, and all
                    over the malonga gilderchuck.
      Clerk: They're like kangaroos, but they're reptiles, they is.
      Marge: We have them in America. They're called bullfrogs.
      Clerk: What? That's an odd name. I'd have called them "chazzwazzers".

  9. Biological warfare by nuggz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is an example of what can happen if you use biological means to control a situation.

    There tends to be an unintended consequence, which often may be much worse than the origional affliction.

    Although I hope they think carefully about this type of behaviour in the future, I doubt it.
    The biological ideas they're coming up with to fight drugs in the US are much scarier than a few million frogs.

    1. Re:Biological warfare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couldn't you call this Organic Pest control?

    2. Re:Biological warfare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also seems like an interesting example of biological warfare - find a country you don't like and let loose these frogs (or whatever'll grow well) there. It's a challenge even for an army to stop the invasion.

    3. Re:Biological warfare by Don853 · · Score: 1

      If you can find something that harms the people living there, instead of just destroying the ecology for no gain (and then spreading out to any contiguous landmasses).

      It's also rather indiscriminite - though maybe that's the point of biological warfare.

    4. Re:Biological warfare by timeOday · · Score: 1
      There tends to be an unintended consequence, which often may be much worse than the origional affliction.
      Who said this is worse than the original affliction of beetles? The story, alone, gives no indication of which is worse.
    5. Re:Biological warfare by nuggz · · Score: 1

      I didn't claim the frogs are worse than the beetle problem.

      I only stated that in many cases when they use biological or foreign species to control a problem it DOES end up worse than the origional problem.

    6. Re:Biological warfare by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      You are right. Let's start pouring poisons into the streams and forests to kill off the nuisances.

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    7. Re:Biological warfare by njchick · · Score: 1
      This is an example of what can happen if you use biological means to control a situation.
      What? Are you suggesting to send robots instead of the live soldiers?
    8. Re:Biological warfare by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Who said this is worse than the original affliction of beetles?

      Ah yes, the imported Japanese Beetles. I wonder if they adapted to taste bad to the toads.

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  10. Mr. President, Dr. Evil is on the line: by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Funny



    Good day, gentlemen. As you are no doubt aware, I have recently perfected my race of genetically enhanced killer cane toads. My invincible batrachian army is currently rampaging across the continent of Australia, laying waste to all in their path. There is currently talk of deploying the Australian army to attempt to stem the tide of conquest...I'll tell you now that you needn't bother...the toads are quite unstoppable, and they only obey my commands.

    You see, gentlemen, things will only get worse...even now, cargo containers filled with thousands of my warty warriors are quietly being delivered to major cities in every country in the world. At my signal, these containers will be opened via remote control, releasing the toads to wreak havok upon your fragile environments. As the toads spread relentlessly, they will destroy entire ecosystems, severely compromising the food supply of the planet. As the global famine ensues, no place on the planet will be safe. You will fall upon one another like wolves...civilization as you know it will cease to exist...that is...unless you pay me...

    One hundred billion kajillion fafillion dollaaars!!!

    Gentlemen, you have my demands...peace out.

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    1. Re:Mr. President, Dr. Evil is on the line: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It pleases me to see that you have a large Freaks list.

    2. Re:Mr. President, Dr. Evil is on the line: by flyweight_of_fury · · Score: 1
      At my signal, these containers will be opened via remote control, releasing the toads to wreak havok upon your fragile environments

      You forgot:

      ...these containers (delivered by my fleet of oceananic cargo-liners) will open via a heavy-water-based, mechanical-clockwork remote control. From here, my project: "Toad the Wet Sprocket" will release the toads to wreak havok upon your fragile environments...
    3. Re:Mr. President, Dr. Evil is on the line: by badmammajamma · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot to mention that subsequent varieties will also be equipped with powerful "lasers" on their heads.

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  11. didnt RTFM by indy_Muad'Dib · · Score: 5, Funny

    france is invading australia?

    1. Re:didnt RTFM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This just in, 10 minutes after landing in Australia, all French soldiers have surrendered unconditionally. The French military minds are yet again stumped as to why they lost another war. Fearing a counter attact, the French government just issued a statement saying it surrenders to Australia, and blames England for letting it get conquered again.

    2. Re:didnt RTFM by HermanAB · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nope, these are toads, not frogs...

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    3. Re:didnt RTFM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How comes you can post on slashdot, but not tell the difference between "tozic cane toads" and "cheese-eating surrender-monkeys"?

    4. Re:didnt RTFM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you need to go to military school; there's a difference between invading and surrendering!

  12. Echos of Another Great Campaign 74 Years Earlier by coaxial · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hopefully Her Royal Australian Army will meet with more success in the Great Toad War than they did in the Great Emu War.

  13. All the markings of a bad B movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can only imagine as soldiers fire their atuomatic weapons wildely, all the time screaming "Pull Back, Pull Back, there's too many of them, Mate!"

    1. Re:All the markings of a bad B movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked!

      Man, we're not going to make it seventeen hours! Those things are going to come in here, just like they did before, man... they're going to come in here and get us, man, long before...

  14. This is no kind of solution by allanc · · Score: 4, Funny

    After this, they're just going to have to find some *bigger* predator to take out the Army. It's a neverending cycle.

    1. Re:This is no kind of solution by Steendor · · Score: 2, Funny

      Chuck Norris?

    2. Re:This is no kind of solution by david.given · · Score: 1

      Mr. Rogers.

    3. Re:This is no kind of solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're assuming the toads will lose :-P

      And anyway, we can control the army population by limiting their reproduction. We've found that by seeding contraceptives at local brothels, we can limit their breeding.

      If that fails, the Austrailian government has a failsafe plan B to get rid of thier army. They'll simply declare war on the United States. Of course, this does have certain drawbacks...

    4. Re:This is no kind of solution by 3rd_Floo · · Score: 1
      If that fails, the Austrailian government has a failsafe plan B to get rid of thier army. They'll simply declare war on the United States. Of course, this does have certain drawbacks...

      Depending on who you ask, that might swell its ranks... that or wipe out the whole of the continent...
    5. Re:This is no kind of solution by kabocox · · Score: 1

      After this, they're just going to have to find some *bigger* predator to take out the Army. It's a neverending cycle.

      Congress? Of course what do use to get rid of politicans?

    6. Re:This is no kind of solution by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      It's called the politician, and it's the soldier's only known natural predator, other than other soldiers.

    7. Re:This is no kind of solution by Samurai · · Score: 1
      Congress? Of course what do use to get rid of politicans?

      Ethics investigations or special prosecutors?

  15. We shall fight them in the ponds, we shall ... by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    fight them on the lilypads, we shall never surrrender!

    I suggest we call on our French allies in NATO to assist Australia. Especially one of their cooking battalions.

    Seriously, though, this is why plopping down species willy nilly thinking they will "solve" a "pest" problem is almost always a biological disaster.

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    1. Re:We shall fight them in the ponds, we shall ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I suggest we call on our French allies...

      This just in: The French have announced their unconditional surrender to the cane frogs.

    2. Re:We shall fight them in the ponds, we shall ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This just in: President Bush announced we are invading Antartica to destroy the cane toads in Australia.

    3. Re:We shall fight them in the ponds, we shall ... by nuzak · · Score: 2, Funny

      > This just in: President Bush announced we are invading Antartica to destroy the cane toads in Australia.

      Well, at least he's close. It took a last-minute phone call to abort the 5th Airborne who just about to go into Vienna.

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    4. Re:We shall fight them in the ponds, we shall ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This just in: President Bush announced we are invading Antartica to destroy the cane toads in Australia.

      At least he didn't send in the 101st Airborne. They would have tortured the penguins for information on where the cane toads were hiding, even though Antartica has never had any.

  16. How did that happen? by MrTester · · Score: 1

    "Hey Wally. Weve got these beetles that are eating our sugar crops. What are we going to do?"

    "Well Jess, weve got this toad from South America that would eat them, although hes a bit poisonous"

    "Well isnt that going to be a problem once the beetles are taken care of?"

    "Sure, but then we can import this Wild Jaguar from South America that eats the toads. Course they are kind of dangerous to people to. So then we could...."

  17. I suggest the Ripley strategy by rk · · Score: 4, Funny

    I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

    1. Re:I suggest the Ripley strategy by Aggrajag · · Score: 1

      I don't know why, but your comment made me laugh so hard that my stomach hurts now. Thank You!

    2. Re:I suggest the Ripley strategy by PygmyShrew · · Score: 0

      Fuckin A!

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    3. Re:I suggest the Ripley strategy by sacrilicious · · Score: 1
      I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

      Isn't there a more humane way? I mean, we're discussing cane toads, not the White House.

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  18. Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by hyfe · · Score: 2, Funny

    about time, those French are bloody annoying!

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    1. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Shut your face stupid yankee.

      Oh wait, was that offensive? Yes it was. I'M FUCKING TIRED OF FRENCH BASHING BECAUSE THE USA AND ITS RESIDENTS DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO JUSTIFY THEIR PERCIEVED SUPERIORITY. Maybe the French should just take their Statue of Liberty home?

      Seriously, when I get modded up for cracking a joke about how stupid americans are - which is newsflash! the current stereotype around the world - then I'll consider it fair to bash the french.

      I'm not french, I've only been once in their country and it still pisses me off to see these comments modded up to funny. It is not funny.

      Oh and btw, the French army history is one of the biggest in the entirely world if not the biggest, in the number of fought battles (and won).

      Please don't take this as a personal affair, my problem is not with you, but the general french bashing. It is stupid, childish and annoying.

      I'm also not going to make any disclaimers about how I'll be modded to hell for expressing a controversial opinion, because it serves no purpose apart from the told-you-so feeling of the poster if the post does get modded down. I'm simply willing to stand by my thoughts, be it -1 or +5.

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    2. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by Loco3KGT · · Score: 1, Funny

      Maybe the French should just take their Statue of Liberty home?

      Actually, it's ours. It was a gift, remember? I'm surprised you didn't know that.

      Oh and btw, the French army history is one of the biggest in the entirely world if not the biggest, in the number of fought battles (and won).

      That's true. They've been losing for a long time. har har har

      If you don't like the show, change the channel. This is slashdot, everyone gets bashed. That includes "stupid Americans" along with Frenchmen. So quit your bitchin'.

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    3. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by e-Motion · · Score: 1

      Shut your face stupid yankee.

      He's Norwegian. It's not like the U.S. has a monopoly on France-bashing, you know.

    4. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe the French should just take their Statue of Liberty home?

      Of course that would just make them french-indian givers...

    5. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by ITGuyfromHELL · · Score: 1
      Oh and btw, the French army history is one of the biggest in the entirely world if not the biggest, in the number of fought battles (and won).


      It was a joke, like Americans make jokes about Canadians every day. Nothing is meant by it.


      But, since you brought it up... THE COMPLETE MILITARY HISTORY OF FRANCE

    6. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by hyfe · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Shut your face stupid yankee.

      I'm no bloody yank! .. but you seem to be, considering your complete lack of ability to understand the subtle differences and the cultural background of the French-bashing.

      Please don't take this as a personal affair, my problem is not with you, but the general french bashing. It is stupid, childish and annoying.

      I am taking it personally, because it's uncalled for. If I had made a joke about the French surrendering I could have understood your outburst, because that would have plain distastefull (especially considering they're based on them 'losing' WW2; and the Americans with their refusing to get involved until the Russians had effectively won the war, and still claiming to be 'our saviours' have no rights whatsoever to make jokes about WW2).

      However, you do have to keep in mind that large majority of posters (even of the Europeans ones) have their feet firmly planted in the Anglo-camp in the Anglo/French-shitcasting contest.

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    7. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by Digital+Autumn · · Score: 1

      >>Oh and btw, the French army history is one of the biggest in the entirely
      >>world if not the biggest, in the number of fought battles (and won).

      >That's true. They've been losing for a long time. har har har

      Your joke would have been funnier if you had snipped the part of the quote that contradicted it. Next time choose humor OR accuracy.

    8. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by hyfe · · Score: 1
      He's Norwegian.

      Erm, are you stalking me? :(

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    9. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have the same sense of humour against the French as the German had
      againt the Jews before WWII.

    10. Re:Sending in the army to kill the frogs? by e-Motion · · Score: 1

      Erm, are you stalking me? :(

      No, I just read a few of your comments in "ITMS Faces Complaint From Norwegian Ombudsman".

  19. Easy Solution by sarlos · · Score: 1

    Import starving people from third world nations to eat the toads. It could get messy when the toad problem is solved, but there's suddenly a large starving people problem...

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    1. Re:Easy Solution by Dracil · · Score: 1

      No... they'd be dead from the poison.

      On the other hand, you'll have a pile of formerly starving dead people.

  20. That was close... by OmegaBlac · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let the world be glad that these are only toxic toads and not Battletoads. Of course if there was a world-wide rat infestation we would probably be very thankful for their help in eradicating the rodents.

    1. Re:That was close... by Reason58 · · Score: 1

      And may God have mercy on our souls if they decide to team up with Billy

  21. Simple by njchick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Make the toads lick each other.

    1. Re:Simple by Digital+Autumn · · Score: 1

      Another example where teaching oral sex saves the day! Perhaps some adult "instructional" videos are being deployed by the army.

    2. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking about a bunch of acid-triped toads, but whatever chokes your chicken I guess.
      While I'm here, you wanna see a donkey show ?

  22. I, for one, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    welcome our cane toad

  23. Oblig. South Park by Lazbien · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot: Blah Blah Blah Toads invading Australia
    Dougie: Simpsons Did It!

    Episode 6x16: Bart vs. Australia.

  24. Diversity is strength. by Baldrson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Diversity is strength. Australia is an inbred backwater of an ecosystem that needs to be enriched so it looks like the world. Predators who are foolish enough to eat poisonous frogs from more evolutionarily advanced ecosystems are doomed and we should celebrate their demise as the relentless march of evolution progresses ever onward to a glorious day when that heavenly brown-green-grey goo eats everything.

    1. Re:Diversity is strength. by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      There are predators that can eat the cane toads without dying. Ravens flip the toads onto their backs and eviscerate them, without touching the poison sacs.

      You just need a clever native creature to oust the little pests.

  25. Re:Seargent! Are you licking that toad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm not not licking this toad.

    A lot of poisons in small doses will give you a good time - alcohol for one.

  26. Shhhhh by tgd · · Score: 1

    Its talk like that which keeps Cheney from needing Viagra.

  27. Better headline by liak12345 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Australia deploys troops for Amphibious Warfare

    1. Re:Better headline by mjwx · · Score: 1

      wouldn't the headline "Australia deploys troops for amphibian warfare" be better.

      We in down under are still trying to covince GWB to join us in the "War on Toads".

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  28. Go to your local plant nursery, look around by ianscot · · Score: 3, Informative

    People never seem to learn this lesson. It doesn't matter that kudzu and dandelions and purple loosestrife and house sparrows and starlings and gypsy moths and buckthorn and... you get the picture: it doesn't matter that any given introduced species goes nuts and that other introductions meant to curb earlier mistakes blow up. People don't see how it could happen the next time. They just don't care that much.

    Head on down to your local plant nursery and consider what share of the plants there are native to your area. The percentage will be pitifully small unless you're in Hawaii or something. Hawaii takes plant imports very seriously. In my area, even when there's a perfectly good native species like American bittersweet vine, the nursery will decide to carry a eurasian species that has some slightly different quality. Bam: eurasian bittersweet swallows whole forests in the south. The native version didn't do that. Gee, I guess the difference was a little bit bigger than we thought.

    People could have planted native chestnut trees. They were the dominant species of non-mast food tree in eastern U.S. forests, and a huge wildlife habitat -- until they were wiped out by the chestnut blight brought over on shrubby eurasian chestnuts by plant nurseries. Didn't learn from that one either.

    If anything, where there are legal restrictions about plants, they're usually an encouragement not to plant natives. Introduced species are so much more civilized, or something.

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    1. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 3, Informative

      Japanese Knotweed is another gem brought over that overruns disturbed areas (trails, roadsides, etc). I've worked with groups that try to control invasive species and it is a Sisyphisian task. You have to be 100% committed to it over many years. You have to tear their roots out or poison them season after season and get every little cluster of them.

      Here is one especially lovely plant that was brought over. The Giant Hogweed (sounds just lovely, doesn't it?). Get the sap in your eyes and it can blind you. Get it on your skin and you could be permanently scarred. Some were found growing in Western Massachusetts a few years back.

      Sometimes I think it would make more sense to genetically splice beneficial plants with invasives. Knotweed that grew oranges or Loosestrife that grew strawberries wouldn't be bad at all.

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    2. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Like2Byte · · Score: 1
      ...It doesn't matter that kudzu and dandelions and purple loosestrife and house sparrows and starlings and gypsy moths and buckthorn and... you get the picture:...

      Phew! For a second there I thought I was reading an un-aired Monty Python script.

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    3. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Kelson · · Score: 1

      Head on down to your local plant nursery and consider what share of the plants there are native to your area. The percentage will be pitifully small unless you're in Hawaii or something.

      Well, that depends on what you consider to be "native." Hawaiian ecology is essentially the result of several thousand years of successive waves of invasions. Every once in a while, a few new seeds blow in on the trade winds, or a stray flock of migrating birds gets lost, or something wanders in on driftwood. If it's a good fit for the island, it carves out a niche in the ecosystem, which then rebalances itself.

      The same thing happened when successive waves of humans showed up, bringing in their own plants and animals from other parts of Polynesia, some intentionally (pigs, for instance), others unintentionally (like rats). Sure, things have picked up in the last 200-odd years, with people bringing in the mongoose to controll the rats (big mistake!), and with even more plants and animals hitching rides on boats and airplanes (several islands on Hawaii have a major frog/toad problem of their own, and there's a problem with a weed taking over pastures that causes an allergic reaction in cattle).

      So I suppose if by "native" you mean "pre-European," then yes, Hawaii has mostly native plant life.

    4. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by kent_eh · · Score: 1
      Don't worry.

      Monsanto will come up with a GMO variety any day now. That'll fix all the problems, with none of those silly "un-intended concequences".

      If the thing starts to get away on us, the makers will have a (very expensive) chemical tailor made to manage the problem.


      /sarcasm

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    5. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1

      From that Wikipedia article:

      Even after the parent plant is completely removed, the numerous seeds left behind can come up, 7 to 15 years later.

      Just wonderful, isn't it?

    6. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      Except of the oranges were toxic, blinded you, and scarred your skin.

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    7. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

      Actually, this would be a perfect use of GMO organisms. They could, perhaps, arrange for a strain of plant or animal which dies out after a few generations--giving it enough time to reduce the toad population, but not becoming an issue in itself. Or yes, one with a chemical sensitivity which can be used to control it.

    8. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by DavidTC · · Score: 1
      Except in this case the problem is that the toads didn't do what they were supposed to do, so didn't solve anything, and that the toads, themselves, are not causing any 'harm'. They just killing things dumb enough to eat them, certain wildlife is endangered and sparse this is a real threat.

      Having them die after a few generations might make sense, but not here, because by the time they did that, the other species would still already be gone.

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    9. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Oranges can already blind you.

      Assuming, of course, you were dumb enough to sit there while someone poured large amounts of citric acid in your eyes.

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    10. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy crap, and they use it as a spice in the Middle East? Crazy farkers...

    11. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the wikipedia entry: Giant Hogweed is a phototoxic plant. Its sap can cause photodermatitis, skin inflammations when the skin is exposed to sunlight or to UV-rays

      Wow, so it's just like what the ball of fire our planet orbits does to me already?

    12. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

      It does? Your sun sounds pretty nasty compared to mine.

      "They form black or purplish scars, which can last several years. Hospitalisation may become necessary. Presence of minute amounts of sap in the eyes, can lead to temporary or even permanent blindness. These reactions are caused by the presence of linear derivatives of furocoumarin in its leaves, roots, stems, flowers, and seeds. These chemicals can get into the nucleus of the epithelial cells, forming a bond with the DNA, causing the cells to die."

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    13. Re:Go to your local plant nursery, look around by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

      You can mace someone quick by squeezeing a peel piece in front of their eye and blasting it with pure citrus oil. It's actually much worse than the juice because it doesn't freaking come out.... (has accidentlly sprayed himself while doing anothing stupid thing with orange oils, setting the puff of oil on fire with a lighter)

  29. If they're like the US army.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...they'll end up torturing and killing some of them, while getting some ineptly defended against beating from some of the others, before giving up and retreating. Just like in Vietraq.

    1. Re:If they're like the US army.. by HermanAB · · Score: 0

      These toads are proven to be weapons of mass destruction ==> USA should invade Australia...

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  30. Bahhrt Simpson, you are the devil ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Bahhrt Simpson, you are the devil !

  31. Why doesn't poison kill the host? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't the poison (strong enough to kill crocodiles) kill the toads? Same problem with other venomous animals. Why don't they die from their own poison?

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    1. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by Politburo · · Score: 1

      In a similar vein, why doesn't the Xenomorph's saliva burn through itself?

    2. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by LouisZepher · · Score: 2, Informative

      On one hand, imunity. On the other, such animals evolved a really nifty trick called not biting or licking themselves.

    3. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by collectivescott · · Score: 1

      The same reason animals with big teeth don't bite themselves to death. Or why fish don't drown. Evolution.

      I'd guess that the toad has some method of localizing the toxin (like the bile you keep in your stomach). If some toxin should escape due to injury, it is probably broken down into harmless substances by special enzymes.

    4. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      I think snakes are bound to ingest some of their own poison.

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    5. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by LouisZepher · · Score: 1

      More than likely, yes, especially in the event of eating something they killed with their venom. In those cases, I think an inherent immunity (to its own venom as I mentioned above) would protect the snake.

    6. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      Toxins usually interfere with the normal operation of enzymes or signaling mechanisms. The toads probably don't have the vulnerable enzymes or signaling methods, or they have their own method of dealing with it. For example, the hydrochloric acid in your stomach has a pH around 1 and would eat through your stomach lining except it's neutralized near the lining and in the intestines. As another example, vipers secrete their toxin into sacs in their jaw, and from there into channels in their fangs when they bite. It doesn't enter their blood stream where it could kill them. I think vipers are susceptible to their own toxins, so this isolation is important.

      Of course, the article is rather tabloid-ish, and the statement "strong enough to kill crocodiles" doesn't mean much without a dose. Lipid-based vitamins like A will kill a croc in the right dose, but I doubt they'll survive without them either. Is licking the toad enough, or does it take eating one or perhaps a lot of them to get a lethal dose? Do crocodiles even like to eat these toads or is that statement irrelevant to the article? Does licking a toad send the croc on an acid trip, and if so, is a croc on acid more or less freaky than Mic Jaeger? Can a croc on acid be a judge on American Idol?

    7. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because they haven't learnt to lick their own backs yet.

    8. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      No, yes, yes, probably, maybe, less, definately...

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    9. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by It's+all+Krista's+Fa · · Score: 1

      Ingesting venom is not a problem. Stomach acid denatures the relevant proteins. It's injection of the venom that is troublesome.

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    10. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Then why to predators that eat these toads die?

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    11. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      Toads are poisonous, not venomous.

    12. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Why don't they die from their own poison?
      Have you ever tried to lick your own back? The toads can't do it either.
    13. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Common, don't be an ass - skin is not impermeable. Toads, and other poisonous/venomous animals actually manufacture the poison. The production process requires a blood supply and a return of fluid as well, so the poison is bound to find its way into the rest of the toad's circulatory system. Obviously it must have a way to counteract its own poison, but how does that process work?

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    14. Re:Why doesn't poison kill the host? by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Common, don't be an ass - skin is not impermeable. Toads, and other poisonous/venomous animals actually manufacture the poison
      I don't tend to leak blood onto things either - just as the bufotoxin poison does not get into the toads bloodstream from the poison glands on the back of their head.

      One odd thing is a young crocodile at a sewerage treatment plant at Cairns has learned to eat them with no ill effects by only eating the lower half of their bodies.

  32. "toxic toads" by moracity · · Score: 1

    The new PC term for illegal aliens?? I think I'll adopt it straight away!

  33. Should be a good fight... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but ultimately my money is on the toads.

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  34. There once was an old lady who ate the fly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who ate the... ...

    I guess she'll die.

  35. In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They kill their frogs with ESP.

    No, really!

    "A DIA 1975 report, "Soviet and Czechoslovakian Parapsychology Research, described "a scientific breakthrough of tremendous significance." Soviet scientists had reportedly learned that "psychic" abilities stemmed from a kind of brain energy. This energy, it was claimed, had been extracted from the brain into a beam. The beam was focused on houseflies, who "died instantly." A Soviet "killer psychic," one Nina Kulagina, was even able to "stop" the heart of a laboratory frog."

    http://www.markriebling.com/archives/00000304.html

  36. Your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Don't mod Troll/Flamebait just because you're disagreeing.

    I do it all the time

    :)

  37. Howdy mates, by alshithead · · Score: 1

    What are we after today? Bunnies, roos, toads, or terrorists? Don't forget, if Cheney is on your team, keep your head down! Seriously, invasive species require extreme measures to try and preserve the natural order in a given environment. Other than defense of your country I can't think of a better use of troops.

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  38. Traditional Australian Toad Control Method by Homebrewed · · Score: 1

    My Aussie buddy told me that some of his favorite childhood involved his two older brothers,
    cricket bats, and the above-mentioned toad. Wonder if that's how the Army is dealing with
    the problem?

    1. Re:Traditional Australian Toad Control Method by bodgit · · Score: 1
      Wonder if that's how the Army is dealing with the problem?

      Or drive over them on the roads in their Ute's?

    2. Re:Traditional Australian Toad Control Method by AlienSlav · · Score: 0

      As a guest I was treated to the local past time of T/G (Toad Golf). It went like this after a very hard day of laying around in the shade someone brought in the Isuzu pickup filled to bed's capacity with ice and beer. In the front lot, (they have no grass lawn) is a wobbly pole with an extension cord and light bulb hanging from it. This pole is stuck into the center of a large truck tire. As the sun sets Melroy McKinnen plugs in the cord and we all select a golf club of our choice and begin to drink the beer. Soon bugs are swarming the light bulb the children are using tennis rackets and swatting at large beetles this goes on until the shout of hold on mate its mine! Thus starts a full nights fun of swatting Toads drawn to the light and the buzzing of bugs with golf clubs. The point system is not how well you can drop a toad into the tire holding up the pole but how well you can chip the gooey past the pole into your mate on the other side.

    3. Re:Traditional Australian Toad Control Method by CrankyOldBastard · · Score: 1
      Aside Cane Toad Cricket we also have:

      Cane Toad Golf - fairly obvious

      Flaming Cane Toads - Used where there is a low fire risk. Simply add petrol, kero or metho to the Cane Toads and light. Groove to the fantastic animated light show!

      Cane Toad Races - This happens where bore water is available. The water come out of the ground extremely hot. The contestants line up along the run-off channel, and at the signal everyone places their cane toad into the water at the edge. The toads kick once (twice for an exceptional toad) and then go all stiff, and slowly coast across the channel, whilst being cooked. The winning toad is the first to make it across. Note that bigger toads are started closer to the outlet to provide a "fair" handicapping system.

      Antispetic Antics - Dettol (tm) and other antiseptics are highly toxic to the toads. Kids with water pistols love shooting toads. And the death wriggles (agonised contortions) are even better than the News for seeing gruesome antics, as the toads skin bubbles and peels off, their eyeballs swell and burst etc. We tell the kids that's what the US stockpile of Chemical Weapons can do to people.

      "Better Living through Chemistry" - Apart from Cane Toad Licking, some brave souls make a delightful toad sauce, where cane toads are boiled up and the reduced to a creamy mix that (supposedly) is almost as good as acid, except it wears off after an hour or two. I can't say I've ever had the pleasure of trying it, although I do know one lad who claims it's pretty good. He's pretty cosmic though, and I suspect that anything he ingests coiuld bring on psilocin flashbacks.

  39. French Frogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, these are toads, not frogs...

    And furthermore, the French are not toxic... only smelly.

  40. Keep away from mouth by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Poisonous? Damn, there goes my idea to have thousands of princesses go out and kiss them.

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  41. wait wait wait! by jaimz22 · · Score: 4, Funny

    let me get this straight, Australia has an army?

  42. Wonderful Cane Toads movie by Mr.Ziggy · · Score: 4, Informative
    The best look at this problem is an old documentary called Cane Toads: An Unnatural History.


    I own the DVD because it is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Truly memorable, educational, and completely bizarre. Before we had documentary parodies like Best of Show, there were real documentaries that were even better.

    Must see:
    Little girl playing with toads like Barbie dolls
    Man killing cane toads. Multiply by the thousands now + camo for army effect.

    Reviews and more info:
    http://www.wowozanga.com/2006/06/19/army-called-in -to-fight-toxic-toad-invasion-in-australia.htm
    http://www.badmovies.org/movies/canetoads/

    1. Re:Wonderful Cane Toads movie by mybootorg · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree more about "Cane Toads: An Unnatural History" is outrageously funny and can be had on both Amazon.com and Netflix.com. It ranks right up there with "Vernon, Florida" as one of my favorite documentaries of all time. As a side note, for any Python fans out there, the inspiration for the stuttering fish keeper "Ken" played by Michael Palin in the movie "A Fish Called Wanda" was almost certainly a pet store owner from "Cane Toads". He also stuttered and stammered as he told how those Cane Toad bastages were killing his prized gold fish.

  43. Bob Herbert by scottsk · · Score: 1

    I am waiting for Bob Herbert's column about bringing the troops home and how fighting toads is not worth the cost of our blood and treasure.

  44. simple solution #9 by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, no, the solution is really quite simple. You see, there are these large, carniverous lizards from Equador that happen to like to eat these toads. Fortunately, they multiply very fast so they will kill off the toads in no time. Brilliant!

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    1. Re:simple solution #9 by Gyga · · Score: 1

      I have a feeling of deja vu, it is probably nothing though.

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    2. Re:simple solution #9 by Digital+Autumn · · Score: 1

      We'll look into it. But first, bring on the lizards!

  45. oblig. grand theft auto quote by flickwipe · · Score: 1

    those aussies are ruthless! they even wire kangaroo's with explosives, come a-hopping into camp, knock out 10 guys

    1. Re:oblig. grand theft auto quote by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      those aussies are ruthless! they even wire kangaroo's with explosives, come a-hopping into camp, knock out 10 guys

      We're better than that, mate. And before the battle we pray to Saints Coltraine and Kerouac.

      I think if we GM'd a smaller drop-bear we wouldn't need to import so many croquet mallets from India.

      Yes, the Cane Toads are real. Locusts on the hop.

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    2. Re:oblig. grand theft auto quote by Kohath · · Score: 1

      What is a malonga gilderchuck? I spent about 20 minutes trying to find out yesterday.

    3. Re:oblig. grand theft auto quote by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      What is a malonga gilderchuck?

      I think he plays for the St.Kilda Saints, a one-time candidate for the Brownlow.

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  46. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could be asked to mediate before the conflict gets out of hand

    Get Condi and the Turtles in a plane immediately!

  47. Simple Solution by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Crocodile Hunter could just lure them to the soldiers using his infant son as bait. No, wait...

    Seriously though, I live in South Florida, US where they also pulled this trick (to save money for the rich sugar cane barons, but that's another story) and it's had the same sort of disastrous results. As soon as the toads found out that there were suburbs nearby, they quickly abandoned the cane fields and settled in the nice comfy urban neighborhoods. The toxin is extremely poisonous therefore, not only do they have no known predators, but they also kill household pets who are unlucky enough to encounter and bite them.

    There is not very much you can do to control the Bufo's except to remove sources or food and water. These things thrive on pet food and we'll always have them in my neighborhood as long as morons keep leaving their pet food outside in their driveways (which also attracts rats, possums, and other nasties). They're also said to be able to survive months underground during the dry season and then emerge in the wet which is just starting here now so needless to say, my block has been crawling with them for the last 3 weeks.

    I've also seen very little on humane ways of eradicating these pests. One site advocates putting them in a bag in your freezer until they're frozen solid but this doesn't sit well with the wife I'm afraid. I've heard of people pouring ammonia and other toxins on them (these are sluggish toads easily hand caught, not leaping frogs) but this seems cruel as well as not very envrionmentally friendly. We have a large dog who pounces on anything that moves, so needless to say controlling these things is a real concern. I personally know of several people who have lost their pets in the last year due to deadly encounters with Bufo's and that's one reason my dog never goes into the yard alone for any length of time.

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    1. Re:Simple Solution by dieScheisse · · Score: 2, Informative

      info link

      I also live in Florida, Tampa to be specific. I moved into a house north of the city and about 2 years in starting noticing these toads in the back yard. At first I didn't think much of them...they were small and few in numbers. Then they started getting bigger and I do mean big. But still, I didn't think much of them. I never left any sort of food outside for them so I figured they ate bugs and whatever else they could find.

      Then one day after letting my dogs outside I noticed one was salivating profusely, so much that it looked like someone had turned on a faucet in her mouth. She is one to chase everything and anything...squirrels, anoles, whatever. I wiped her up and she seemed fine so I didn't worry much about it. A month or so later we went out of town. When we got back, the woman who petsat for us said that the same thing had happened to her. I thought weird, but again didn't think much of it because nothing happened again.

      During a later visit to the vet, I mentioned to them about these toads in the yard. The tech went into the back and came back with one of these toads in a formaldehyde jar. She then informed me exactly what they were and how dangerous they are to pets. I then put 2 and 2 together and realized how lucky my dog was (she weighs only 30 lbs).

      Since that time, anytime I see one I immediately kill it. Fuck being humane. They need to be eradicated. I get out the shovel and start smacking the crap out of them. Sometimes it takes a good 4 or 5 hits before they finally succumb.

      Good riddance.

    2. Re:Simple Solution by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 1

      Might I suggest a Really Big Stick(TM)? The bigger it is, the more humane. Just watch out for flying poison sacks...

    3. Re:Simple Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Florida's gun laws aren't too draconian; buy a Walther P22 .22LR pistol with a silencer (you can get that setup for like 800 bucks) and just start wastin' 'em. Or, if you live someplace the noise wouldn't raise any problems, just pick up a .22LR rifle for like 150USD and a box of 500 rounds for 9.99USD and you're ready to pop yourself some toads!

      But I do wonder why the Australian government hasn't seen fit to declare them a nuisance with a year-round limitless varmint season and start providing government refunds to individuals in the affected parts of the country who purchase varmint rifles. Get the populace treating them like we treat prarie dogs out West: three or four guys, a truck, some rifles and a crapload of ammo = loads of fun and a bunch of dead critters.

      Though, now that I think about it, toad-sniping is really good marksmanship practice for the Australian army...

    4. Re:Simple Solution by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

      You ought to get yourself a gigging spear (a multi-pronged, barbed spear usef for gigging frogs, fish and eels)--it'd work better than a shovel, and could be pretty fun.

    5. Re:Simple Solution by deacon · · Score: 1
      Here is a page of solutions to your toad problem:

      http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_ query=.22+long+rifle&search_constraint=0&ic=40_40& ref=+125872.125884

      here are the consumables you will need:

      http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/standard_dad.htm

      Cheap. Easy. Quiet. If everyone did this there would not be a toad left. If the govt. put a $0.25 bounty a toad, the toads would be on the endangered species list in a month.

      For really quiet:

      http://www.gem-tech.com/twenty2.html

      For really loud, with spray:

      http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

      Added benefit: Kids will stay off your damn lawn. :P

    6. Re:Simple Solution by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      Shoot them with a pellet gun (as long as you're legal to do it in your area). Screw humane methods, they're freaking poisonous toads, not cute little puppies.

    7. Re:Simple Solution by AcidDan · · Score: 1

      The two primary "unofficial" ways to get rid of cane toads in Australia:

      1. Cricket Bat
      2. 9 Iron

      And if you're in the car at night - the headlights dazzle the little buggers and they pop their heads up to see what's coming: when you run over them they make a very satisfying *pop* sound.

      Cane Toads are a very very major problem for places infested with them - by a strange irony, people are even suggesting that the Cane Toad should be an official symbol for Queensland. Our state football team (Rugby League) are known as the Cane Toads.

      While Australia is known as being one of the few countries that will eat its coat of arms (Kangaroo, don't know of anyone eating emu). I think Queensland would be the only state in the world where (if the Toad became an official emblem) it's considered quite fair and proper to kill a state symbol on sight...

      -- Dan =)

    8. Re:Simple Solution by sootman · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, sunny Florida. You think Carl Hiaasen books are funny, then you move here and go "Holy crap..."

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    9. Re:Simple Solution by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      The two primary "unofficial" ways to get rid of cane toads in Australia: 1. Cricket Bat 2. 9 Iron

      Wrong, wrong, so wrong! The Queensland premier has recently made it official.

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    10. Re:Simple Solution by jafac · · Score: 1

      There is not very much you can do to control the Bufo's except to remove sources or food and water.

      We could activate Halo and wipe out all sentient life within 3 galactic radii. . .

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  48. Irony? by DanHibiki · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Evolved toads march towards Darwin", there is something very ironic about all of this.

  49. These are the lickable 'I'm so stoned' kind. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    It's all about dosage.

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    1. Re:These are the lickable 'I'm so stoned' kind. by Andrzej+Sawicki · · Score: 1

      They have too many. Trust me.

  50. Toad Stompin'! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hell yeah! Its toad stompin' time!

    Get out yer boots!

  51. Solutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    try{
            X= "We've got a beetle infestation problem.";
            Y= "We're sending in toads to clean it up.";
            X= "Now we've got a toad infestation problem.";
            Y= "We're sending in soldiers to clean it up.";
            X= "Now we've got a soldier infestation problem.";
            if ( CanTakeAJoke() )
                    Y= "We're sending in IEDs to clean it up.";
            else
                    Y= "We're sending in beer to clean it up.";
    }
    catch(HumorBufferUnderflowException heh){
            kneejerk();
    }

  52. documentary by stagl · · Score: 1

    there's a wonderful documentary on cane toads that i watched a few months ago.

    it shows how some of the austrailians came to accept the invasion, while others would steer towards the toads to see how many they could squash on the way to work. it was a little disturbing to see 7 pop in your face...

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    1. Re:documentary by dbIII · · Score: 1
      while others would steer towards the toads to see how many they could squash on the way to work
      The director was accused of cruelty for this - a scene of a VW Kombi swerving from side to side to hit the toads. However, no toads were hurt - they don't come out in the day so some potatoes on the road did the job as stand ins for toads.
  53. Re:Echos of Another Great Campaign 74 Years Earlie by Alicat1194 · · Score: 1
    But it's way more fun to play golf with cane toads than it is with emus!

    (j/k! j/k! It's impossible to play golf with emus, they never sit still on the tee long enough)

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  54. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    The diving was great.

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  55. Classical solution by elgatozorbas · · Score: 1

    Can't they build a fence or something?

  56. Chazwazzer by modi123 · · Score: 2, Funny

    A "bullfrog"?!?! That's a funny name. I woulda called it a Chazwazzer!

  57. Some Information by mi · · Score: 3, Informative
    what the army is supposed to do except kill them.

    The humane way to kill them, advocated by the Northern Territory government (which tried to encourage citizens to setup subsidized traps on their land), is to put the captured toads in plastic bags and into freezers. The cold-blooded creatures simply fall asleep as they get colder...

    The sad things are:

    1. they never ate the cane beattle, they were brought in to fight;
    2. they are harmless by themselves — only killing the predators, who try to eat them.

    Australia's predators (quolls mostly) are lone hunters, so others don't have the chance to learn from a fellow hunter's fate. Park rangers have evacuated some of them off to islands to preserve the already withering species...

    Interestingly, the feral cats — another menace to Australia's native wildlife — seem smart enough not to get killed by the poisonous quarry...

    It seems like some of Australia's birds of prey — probably, having watched others die — have learned to flip the toads over and eat out the belly, which is not protected by poison. It may not be enough to stop the invasion, though...

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    1. Re:Some Information by bh_doc · · Score: 1

      "The humane way to kill them"

      What I'd like to know is, what's wrong with picking a toad up by its leg, and then pelting it at concrete? Its quick and painless if done with enough enthusiasm. And it doesn't waste freezer space (unless you really wanted that toadsicle).

      Yet for some reason we're told to carefully and lovingly put these little bastards in the freezer, apparently so that they won't feel any pain. You ever been out on a freezing night without a jacket? You think freezing to death is painless?

    2. Re:Some Information by mi · · Score: 1
      what's wrong with picking a toad up by its leg, and then pelting it at concrete? Its quick and painless if done with enough enthusiasm.

      Yes, and some kids smash them with golf clubs. Probably, the point is, you are not supposed to enjoy the killing — this is why the rather elaborate method is picked. This is, likely, more of an ethical thing, than strictly biological/veterinarian.

      You ever been out on a freezing night without a jacket? You think freezing to death is painless?

      It is for a cold-blooded creature, presumably. Instead of struggling to maintain mobility as we do, they slow down and fall asleep...

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    3. Re:Some Information by bh_doc · · Score: 1
      It is for a cold-blooded creature, presumably. Instead of struggling to maintain mobility as we do, they slow down and fall asleep...

      Good point. I didn't think of that.

      Yes, and some kids smash them with golf clubs. Probably, the point is, you are not supposed to enjoy the killing this is why the rather elaborate method is picked. This is, likely, more of an ethical thing, than strictly biological/veterinarian.

      I doubt very much that's true. If it's true or not, it's orthogonal. Whether or not someone *enjoys* beating the shit out of these toads is completely beside the point, so long as they're dead quicker than the toad realises what's going on. I'm not usually one to support the death of animals, but cane toads have been a total fuckup since the beginning, and are an extremely serious problem - the only solution to which seems to be to eradicate them. What should anyone care how a toad dies so long as it's quick and painless. (Or, I guess, the alternative: slow and painless.)

      If some kid can get his jollies at the same time, I say that's a bonus. In fact, I'd go so far as to encourage that behaviour; it makes for an enjoyable passtime and a bonding experience with mates, it gets kids outdoors, it could give troublemakers something constructive to do (disguised in a destructive way), and it helps in the fight against cane toads where otherwise we'd have to pay to get professionals to do it. Bugger that - where's my golf club?

    4. Re:Some Information by mi · · Score: 1
      If some kid can get his jollies at the same time, I say that's a bonus. In fact, I'd go so far as to encourage that behaviour; it makes for an enjoyable passtime and a bonding experience with mates

      I stayed away from kids like this in my childhood, and would not want such feelings encouraged in my future children. Maybe, that's the government's concern — well, either the government's, or the anticipated critics', whom the government is trying to pre-empt :-)

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  58. Re:Do not Tamper with Evolution by Digital+Autumn · · Score: 1

    Who is the moron? Homo sapiens.

    I totally did not see this coming. What a twist!

  59. Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do the toads even know that they're toxic?

    Maybe they're innocent. But if you see them strutting around, bragging about that s.o.b. alligator that tried to take a bite out of them (even showing the scars to prove it), or acting like the new sheriff in town, or making boisterous claims about being virtually at the top of the food chain, well then i say, nuke the bastids.

  60. Not to worry by Gorimek · · Score: 1, Funny

    History shows that when met with any kind of military force, the frogs quickly surrender!

    And I do apologize...

  61. Oh, the irony of poetic justice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, as a pun, that statement would be 'The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention', and hence is irony, not poetic justice.

    Ah, the sweet sweet poetic justice of pointing out to someone who just replaces the word poetic justice for irony that his statement was, in fact, ironic.

    And given that Irony and Poetic Justice are both poetic devices, this sort of justice is, in fact, ironic.

    1. Re:Oh, the irony of poetic justice! by Wooster_UK · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the irony of having avoided the word irony for fear that it was the wrong word, and not wanting to be picked up on by the grammar Nazis. A pox upon you, Murphy!

  62. torrent by crabpeople · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.mininova.org/tor/49932

    I saw it a few months ago. very funny.

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  63. Mod parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After reading the review on badmovies.org of this documentary, I'm going to try and order a copy. It sounds absolutely bizarre!

  64. Toads by buk110 · · Score: 1

    Hmm, this sounds vaguely familiar to a cartoon I saw once. There was a mouse, so they sent in the cat, then they sent in a dog and then an elephant. I wonder what will be used to kill what kills the toads????

  65. Someone needs to build a toadba. by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    Seriously. That has the potential to solve these sorts of problems: an autonomous frog-eating robot, solar-powered, that just cruises around and chews them up. If you're worried about false negatives, have it capture them, take a picture, and wi-fi it to a bunch of minimum-wage outsourcing victims who mod 'bufo' or 'not bufo' and base their wage increases on a metamoderation system. Make sure the toadba units can float. Every couple of months hire someone to go collect all the ones that haven't moved in a month.

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    1. Re:Someone needs to build a toadba. by cdn-programmer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      These naturally powered predators already exist. They are called "crows".

      Aussie crows are starting to learn how to flip the toads over. This is only 70 years. The ecosystem will correct this problem. It may take a bit of time but the ecosystem is very resiliant. Its been able to handle everything thrown at it for at least the last 3.8 billion years and a lot of things have happened worse than a cane toad.

      However - I will admit they are ugly. Also, they make a mess when you drive over them. The thing is the army isn't likely going to be able to make much of a difference. While practical controls should be employed where feasible - wiping out a critter like a cane toad is a lot harder than wiping out the passenger pigeons and Dodo birds.

    2. Re:Someone needs to build a toadba. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Aussie crows are starting to learn how to flip the toads over. This is only 70 years. The ecosystem will correct this problem. It may take a bit of time but the ecosystem is very resiliant. Its been able to handle everything thrown at it for at least the last 3.8 billion years and a lot of things have happened worse than a cane toad.


      Well, I see the ecosystem still struggling against common human, and humans have been around for a while. About the only effective ways against humans introduced by ecosystem are diseases and even those are pretty in effect.
    3. Re:Someone needs to build a toadba. by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Dodo birds, certainly. But there were a *lot* of passenger pigeons. Estimates range as high as a trillion. If people at large were as motivated to wipe out frogs as they were to kill passenger pigeons, they'd make a big difference (which is why I think robots might do a good job: they have no problem with motivation.) The major difference being that when you can't see any more pigeons, they're all gone, but some frogs can go into weird desiccated hybernation states underground, in semi-dried mud, and come back ten years later when it gets wet again, so I don't think anything motivated purely by hopes for a quick fix -- the sorts of things that the military is good at -- is going to be successful long-term.

      Good for the crows. That's really cool to hear. They're clever animals.

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    4. Re:Someone needs to build a toadba. by 808140 · · Score: 1

      It's been a while since evolutionary biology, but if I recall correctly, the high numbers of passenger pigeons were one of the main reasons that people at the time were so unconcerned about killing them. Unfortunately, as it turns out, passenger pigeons cannot survive in small flocks -- they require huge (we're talking really big, like in excess of a few hundred thousand birds) to survive. I can't remember exactly why this is (or if we even know) but it turned out that once a flock was small enough, the pigeons died on their own.

      At the beginning of the 20th century, a flock of passenger pigeons apparently could darken the American sky. People would fire shotguns in the air and then go collect the fallen birds that were sure to have been hit. People thought nothing of killing them because they were so numerous.

      I'm not sure humans were even responsible for killing more than 20 or 30 percent of them (still a large number, granted.) The rest died due to an evolutionary dependence on large social groups, which turned out to be a weakness that they could not overcome in the short period humans hunted them.

      This is probably what the OP meant when he lumped them in with Dodo birds.

    5. Re:Someone needs to build a toadba. by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      You're probably right.

      I remember reading that John Audubon, who knew a few things about counting birds, one time tried to count a flock of passenger pigeons that was flying over and after 8 hours of counting, he estimated that it was about 1.2 billion birds. I've read other people talking about how the pigeons would land in an area and trees would start collapsing under their combined weight. That's a lot of birds. So, even at 20 or 30%, that could be tens of billions of birds. The sheer amount of gunpowder and shot that involves is kind of sobering.

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  66. Holy Shit!! by infosec_spaz · · Score: 0

    I actually posted a story about AT&T changing their Privacy Policy, and THIS SHIT gets published, and my story is rejected?!?!?!?!? WTF are the editors fucking, er, I mean Thinking???

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  67. Not venomous... by FridayBob · · Score: 1

    Poisonous is a better description. The problem is that these alien toads look like tasty morsels to many Australian predators. Unfortunately for any animal that decides to makes a meal of one, it will also be its last.

    I don't think there's any easy answer to this problem. In neighboring New Zealand, they successfully exterminated alien rats on some of their Islands by airdropping poisoned bait. That's not going to work on these toads, since although they're known to even eat stuff like plants, carrion and dog food (not just insects), they're now far too wide spread. I fear that the only way out will be to introduce a natural enemy, preferably something like a virus or a specific parasite (if one exists).

    See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toad

    1. Re:Not venomous... by Maelwryth · · Score: 1

      "they successfully exterminated alien rats on some of their Islands by airdropping poisoned bait." It should be pointed out that these were not the North or South Islands (the major ones) but only some of the small islands.

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  68. Not a good form of Pest Control! by mpcooke3 · · Score: 1

    An "Old Woman" once used this form of pest control and we all know where it got her...

    There was an old woman who swallowed a cow,
    I don't know how she swallowed a cow!
    She swallowed the cow to catch the goat,
    She swallowed the goat to catch the dog,
    She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
    She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
    She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,
    That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her,
    She swallowed the spider to catch the fly,
    I don't know why she swallowed the fly,
    Perhaps she'll die.

  69. Population control and a movie! by half_dead_working_st · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    oh oh oh I know send them to france! population control in so many ways there. And for my other idea after the armada of toad warfare is over a new movie based on it. ATTACK OF THE KILLER Sac TOADS! A cut scene from the movie Private: Sarg Watch out out for the!!!! SPLAT Serg: Johnny i'm dying dying, your in charge now it's getting so dark it's. Toad: RIBBBIT! GULP! Privt. johnny: You bastard you killed and ate the sarg die M@#$$@#@#$! Gun blast as toad explodes unleashing noxious gas! PJ: I've avenged you Sarg what wait shite theres more toads ahhhhhhhhhh Enter hundreds of thousands of toads as the envelope Johnny! Then a master toad jumps in swallowing Johnny and alot of other toads. Johnny: being digested slowly pulls the gernade pins from several thermite gernades. If I die you bastards goto hell with me! YAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! Huge Exsplosion as the ground was full of methane gas leaving a huge crater. General walks by a day later! General: that damn squad gave it's life to wipe this menace out! God love the Roughnecks! As the the general walks away a lone shadow is seen hoping away to the other side of the crater. RIBBBBIIIITTT! thats what I'd do after the menace is cleaned up!

  70. and backup sewers and steal everyone's left shoe by vinn01 · · Score: 1

    ... like the last alien invader was going to do (experiment 626).

    But if he shot that toad in the beginning of the movie, the toad would not have woken him up right as the laser was about to vaporize him at the end of the movie.

    (yes, I watch way too many kid's movies)

  71. Do *not* fire a 22 bullet in populated areas by vinn01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A 22 slug can travel a hell of a lot farther then you think. A .22LR rifle can put a bullet a mile away. You could fire at a toad and hit a kid down the road.

    If you want to kill a toad with a 22, use "snake shot". That is tiny pellets in a 22 cartridge.

    Why fight nature? Get rid of the dog and make pets of the toads?

    1. Re:Do *not* fire a 22 bullet in populated areas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, work with me on this:

      a Toad is, what, 5 inches tall?

      A human with a firearm is what, avg. ~5'7"?

      Now, a little simple trigonometry will show you that, if you shoot a toad that's on your property at any distance less than like a 200 yd. (a shot a lot of folks couldn't even make iron-sighted), the bullet's trajectory will be such that it will impact and penetrate into the ground and remain there. It is presumed by this commentor that anyone in possession of a firearm will have adequate knowledge/training/common sense as to not fire any weapon in an unsafe direction or manner or towards a surface off of which the slug could richocet.

      I mean, really. If I am going to shoot a toad, I'll sit on the back porch, see one come hoppin' out of the bushes 10 yards away, pull a bead, pop 'is ass, and the bullet will go into the dirt!

      And if you're really concerned about overpenetration and the bullet (now significantly deformed) somehow bouncing off of a rock and retaining enough velocity to hurt somebody, you could always use .22L, .22S, .22CB, .22BB, or .22SS rounds in a rifle or specialized pistol......

      But, yeah, I never actually said, "Hey, make sure you use brass-plated hollowpoints!" I was leaving it up to the end-user to decide what sort of ammo they preferred to use. Feel free to rock the ratshot. I killed a snake just the other day with a .38 shell full of it. Works fine. YRMV.

    2. Re:Do *not* fire a 22 bullet in populated areas by bmk67 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A 22 slug can travel a hell of a lot farther then you think. A .22LR rifle can put a bullet a mile away. You could fire at a toad and hit a kid down the road.

      If you want to kill a toad with a 22, use "snake shot". That is tiny pellets in a 22 cartridge.

      Why fight nature? Get rid of the dog and make pets of the toads?


      If I'm shooting at a toad on the ground four feet in front of me, it's not going to put the bullet a mile away or in the kid down the road, even if I miss, as it's going to be stopped by the best backstop known to man - planet Earth. A .22LR is only going to "put a bullet a mile away" (and I *seriously* doubt that claim) if you fire it at approximately a 45 degree angle to the ground. Which, incidentally, is why it's an insanely bad idea to hunt birds using a rifle - notwithstanding that it's incredibly difficult to hit a flying target with one. Though the next time I'm hunting poisonous flying toads, I'll consider your advice.

      For you to "hit the kid down the road" you've got the violate at least two of the three fundamental rules of firearms safety - and if you're that stupid and careless, you shouldn't be allowed to feed yourself much less own and operate a firearm.

      Ok, smartass comments aside - provided you are competent enough to handle a firearm at all, snakeshot is a great idea - unless you live in an area where it's not safe to discharge a firearm, it's probably not legal either, even with snakeshot. For those of you who live in such areas, I'd recommend a pellet gun or slingshot - provided you're competent to be handling dangerous weapons at all - for the rest of you, may I suggest a nerf bat?
    3. Re:Do *not* fire a 22 bullet in populated areas by 6ULDV8 · · Score: 1

      "I'd recommend a pellet gun or slingshot..."

      Yeah, that's it! A giant slingshot. Just load all those toads up, pull back the bands and send em home.

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      Pull my finger for my public key.
    4. Re:Do *not* fire a 22 bullet in populated areas by vinn01 · · Score: 1

      Unless you fire straight down into planet Earth, a 22 bullet can ricochet. Bullets bounce or ricochet off flat surfaces and thereby go much further than their
      ballistic trajectory alone would indicate.

      The label on the 22LR box says RANGE 1 mile. The bullet will indeed go a mile and still have a tiny bit of velocity left. I've heard plenty of stories of 22 bullets traveling long distances. And not by firing into the air at a 45 degree angle. The cases that I know of are from people who live in around lakes. It's when someone sets up a practice target for their kids by the lake. The bullets ricochet off the water and ping the houses on the other side. I have not heard of anyone getting hurt. I think that the bullets have too little energy for penetration after they skip over the water. But there have been some pretty angry folk when that has happened. And those are not small lakes, some are easily 1/2 mile across.

      You only have to got the violate one fundamental rule of firearms safety to kill someone. I was taught a fundamental rule of firearms safety: "bullets can ricochet".

    5. Re:Do *not* fire a 22 bullet in populated areas by bmk67 · · Score: 1

      Certainly bullets can and do ricochet - this is precisely why one must be sure of one's backstop and what lies downrange before pulling the trigger. The folks who set up a practice range for thier kids with a lake downrange were negligent - shooting into or across water is extremely dangerous, and should never be done without knowing what lies downrange out to the maximum range of the cartridge/firearm combination in question. (In the case of the .22LR, this is at best 1560 yards when firing a high velocity .22LR cartridge from a 20" target barrel with an angle of departure of about 35 degrees.)

      (As an aside: parents, if you want your kids to learn how to shoot, take them to a NRA-certified safety class first, and make sure that they understand and abide by the safety rules. Whatever you may think of the politics of the NRA-ILA, the safety instruction provided by NRA's instructors is the best available.)

      Avoiding ricochets is one reason why I laid out the scenario as I did - firing at a target on the ground four feet in front of the shooter, which is a situation not prone to produce dangerous ricochets. For example, one produced when the projectile hits a surface at a very low angle, such as you would get when firing across water. Bullets striking surfaces at a high angle either do not ricochet at all (when striking soft material), or are have so much kinetic energy transferred during the impact and depart at such a high angle that they are incapable of producing serious injury.

      As a practical example, during a steel match, I was struck with (what was left of) a 230gr .45cal projectile after it ricocheted straight back off of a steel plate at about 25 yards. I estimate that the bullet hit the target at about 750fps and hit me at under 150fps. Yes, that convinced me that I didn't want to shoot steel matches any more - it hurt a bit but didn't produce injury.

      Whether or not a .22LR ricocheting off water and travelling 1/2 mile is capable of producing injury really depends on the angle of departure and the initial velocity after the ricochet - at that point, it's assumed a new ballistic trajectory and the math is fairly simple, provided the ballistic coefficient can be approximated. Without knowing the specifics, it's really hard to say what the velocity of the projectile might be.

    6. Re:Do *not* fire a 22 bullet in populated areas by r00t · · Score: 1

      They are easy to catch. Surely you could spear one with a barbecue fork, hit it with a golf club, use a weed whacker, run the lawnmower over it...

  72. Re:Seargent! Are you licking that toad? by nytes · · Score: 1

    I'm not licking this toad, I'm welcoming it as my new overlord!

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  73. Next Movie!! TOADS ON PLANES by Sancho+del+Mar · · Score: 1

    Get these Mutha F@#king Toads off my Mutha F$@king Continent!! TOADS ON THE OUTBACK!!

  74. Re:what kills the Toads by PigIronBob · · Score: 1

    This was on /. a few moths back, anyway; The native Crow (or raven not sure which) has figured out that by flipping the toad on its back it can go for the soft non-toxic belly, something it teaches its offspring as well! One problem remains; how to silence the Crows, then again the Cockatoos need mufflers as well. it never ends...

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  75. Re:Australia ha an army by PigIronBob · · Score: 1

    yeah remember, everytime you guys get lost in Iraq or Afghanistan the Oz SAS comes in and get out

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  76. Movie of the week! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sending the Army in to fight poisonous, rampaging toads.
    Sounds like the Sci-Fi channel's next Movie of the Week!

  77. Bring 'em on by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

    I believe... that human beings... and cane toads... can live in harmony...
    But these toads... are developing nookular weapons... that are a threat...
    to our great nation... These cane toads... are harbouring known terrorists...
    And... let me just say this... you can fool me once... shame on... shame on me...
    Fool me... you can't get fooled again.

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  78. Officially 2F13 by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    Real simpsons nerds bother to fix the downloaded file names with the production codes.

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    "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
  79. Leader of the frogs. by CCFreak2K · · Score: 1

    The leader of the frog invasion is Gen. Kermet D. Frog. His intentions seem to be the seziure of Australia for his own ends.

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    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
  80. But we've had a solution for years by The_Real_GooberMan · · Score: 1

    All we need to do is move every 10 year old kid up north and give them a golf club. Those toads get quite some distance once skilled. It also has the dual benefit of teaching kids golf at an early age and thus ensuring them a solid professional life.

  81. They SMOKE them too by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 1

    Kids in the Northern Territory not only lick can toads but have also been drying them out and smoking them. It's true - look through this NT Govt report: http://www.nt.gov.au/lant/parliament/committees/En viron%20and%20Sustainable/Cane%20toad-Report-Vol%2 01.pdf

  82. My experiences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I am an Australian.

    When I was a lad living in Townsville (North Queensland) , a popular sport amongst kids was to go Toad hunting, a competitive activity involving torch and a pitchfork. You would fill a sack in a few hours. (Can't remember what we did with the bodies). That was 35 years ago. The problem is much worse now.

    With maturity and reflection I regretted that activity - too inhumane. Now I'm not so sure.

    Here are some facts, some well known, some not:

    - imported from Hawaii in 1935, quickly adapted/evolved.
    - size: up to 24cm , weight 1.4 kg
    - extreme adaptability, desert to mangrove
    - lay up to 35,000 eggs at a time
    - tadpole have 5 rows of teeth used to rasp (like a shark)
    - eat anything they can swallow, including small mammals
    - extremely poisonous - dogs that bite them often die
    - sometimes boiled to extract the poison, which is also a hallucinogenic drug.
    (Users also often die)

    Ref: http://www.austmus.gov.au/factsheets/canetoad.htm

  83. Geography lesson by NotZed · · Score: 1

    There is more than one state in Australia. There are also 5 other states and 2 territories in Australia, which also have their own "State Governments".

    In this case, i believe, it was the State Government of Western Australia which has called on the army - who knows what for, I can't see what they can do.

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  84. Arm the Army with shovels and golf clubs... by Centurix · · Score: 1

    I live in an area where Cane Toads are rife during the wet season. If it's just been raining I can guarantee that when opening the front door I'll be greeted by 5 or 6 toads sitting on the front porch. It feels kinda awkward sometimes when you open it and they're all lined up staring at you and they all stop croaking at the same time, kinda like walking into a western saloon and the piano player stops playing and everyone goes silent. You apologise, close the door very gently and go back inside.

    As for killing them, a quick whack on the head with a shovel does the trick. We tried putting them in the freezer which kind of works, but we had a couple of instances where they come back to life if they're not frozen long enough and you end up with a toad jumping around in a zip-lock back in your waste bin.

    Our next door neighbour had a bit of an idea to get rid of them, create a mobile toad collector who drives around each suburb once a week and offer $1 for each one dead or alive. Train people up on how not to get sprayed by them (attack from behind). The whole poisonous amphibian thing kinda makes it difficult, but we Australians are a hardy bunch and I'm sure we could develop an immunity after a while.

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    1. Re:Arm the Army with shovels and golf clubs... by planetoid · · Score: 1

      y helo thar Cen :3

      Why is driving over the frogs with a diesel lawnmower not an option? Just put some frog bait in the middle of your lawn and wait in the dark with your John Deere and go for it when enough of them are huddled together. I don't think all that hopping can outrun a mower.

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    2. Re:Arm the Army with shovels and golf clubs... by Centurix · · Score: 1

      Howdy mate. Running over them is a bit messy, it's happened to me a couple of times, 4 stroke mower over a fat toad. Small portions of wet smelly toad spread over the lawn. Also, they're poisonous to pets, so removing them in a single 'blob' or 'clump' of toad mass is preferrable.

      These toads aren't the most switched on amphibians either, on the Read scale of amphibian cleverrerness they rate about a 2 (out of 10).

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      Task Mangler
  85. So, how does roo taste? by r00t · · Score: 1

    Please export kangaroo to the USA. They look tasty... are they?

    1. Re:So, how does roo taste? by shplorb · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are indeed tasty!

      Roo meat is also better for you than beef.

  86. What a pity... by geo_2677 · · Score: 1

    that everytime man plays God and fiddles with nature, nature strikes back and yet man never learns.

  87. D'oh! by PookieToo · · Score: 0

    Sounds like what happened when the Simpsons visited the land down under...did not turn well at all. Should just let "nature" take its course...everything will all level out after a few hundred years.

  88. Re:Australian Army not Royal by davidbofinger · · Score: 1
    Her Royal Australian Army

    It's just called the Australian Army. Bits of the Army have Royal commissions and so get to call themselves Royal (e.g. "Royal Australian Regiment", basically what the US would call the infantry corps). But the army as a whole doesn't, whereas the navy and air force do. As the British Army might say, "I fought two world wars, do they call me the world war winner? No. But you cut off the head of one king..."

  89. cane toads never worked in the first place by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

    The bugs they were supposed to eat live at the top of the sugar cane, whereas the toads live on the bottom. So not only did they not make a dent in the pest population, they attacked other, sometimes beneficial insects. IIRC, New Zealand also had raccoons introduced so their fur could be harvested, and but they've devastated the native bird population (NZ has the more bird species than anywhere else on the planet).

  90. Re:Do not Tamper with Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Homo sapiens are a part of this nature that steers this evolution, you know. Don't you think we should do our part?

  91. Planning is essential by hicksw · · Score: 1

    Without planning, all consequences would be unintended.

    Looking back on it, I blame hindsight.

  92. Yes, but it's self-limiting by dmatos · · Score: 1

    From the report:
    ... you kind of have to treat this one as a double-edged sword is that
    there a potential for basically substance abuse with cane toads. It's
    kind of self limiting because people who smoke dried cane toads
    usually end up dead, but people need to be aware of the potential for
    that problem. ... there are incidences in Fiji and American Samoa of
    people drying toad skins and attempting to smoke them and winding
    up dead in a very short order


    Ah, Darwinism at its finest :)

    Insert socio-economically sensitive comment about the plight of NT teenagers with such desolate lives that the thought of a cheap high from smoking toad skins is attractive. Compare to native american gasoline huffers. Move on to a different topic.

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  93. You were lucky by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 1

    By all accounts that I've heard of, you were very lucky with your dog and she probably did not get a direct hit on the poison glands. You did the right thing by recognizing the symptoms (foaming at the mouth, rapid pulse) and rinsing with water, but if it were me I'd also get to the veterenairan as quickly as possible.

    My sister had a dog about the same size that this happened to several years ago and by the time she got to the vet, the dog's muscles had gone completely rigid from convulsions...so much so that the vet had to inject a muscle relaxant before he could administer whatever anti-toxin it is that they use.

    I agree that these things are not only vile but dangerous but I still have to attempt to approach them in a humane way. I don't think my wife would continue living with me if she saw me in the backyard whacking away at a living thing with a shovel. I have managed to catch a few and put them in plastic sacks, then just leave them in the garbage bin for collection. But this isn't exactly ideal or humane and the possibility exists that they could escape or are just being relocated by my doing this. I live in an urban area, so firearms or even pellet guns are not an option - that is, unless the toads start forming gangs and stealing the wheels off of my car. Then I think the use of deadly force would be justifiable under Florida law. :p

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