So your Duron/Celeron box for $500 comes with a 17" monitor? Really? That's incredible.
Yep. Motherboard w/video/sound+cpu is around $130, best buy has a 15GB hard drive for $40, CD-ROM's cost about $30. A cheap ATX case/PS can be had for $25. Mouse & keyboard can be found for $9. I'm sure you can find a nice 17" monitor for under $264.
However, I don't even think that is the point. The point was you can build a cheap duron/celeron system for $500 and buy a monitor for $400 and have a much nicer system than a $900 iMac.
So what happens if in a fit of drunken insanity you charge more than you can pay in a month on your charge card? I.E. if you put $15,000 on a credit card, how is that worse than $15,000 on a charge card?
Here is a solution: the parents should be considered responsible for ANYTHING their kids do untill they turn 21. Kid goes crazy and shoots up his school, parents get tried for murder. Kid steals a six pack, parents get tried for theft. Kid gets pulled over for drunk driveing, parents lose their driver's liscense.
Crazy? Maybe. Not any worse than the laws we have though.
Why reinvent the wheel, as the saying goes. UO is a fine game, yes it has some major flaws, but nothing that can't be fixed. It would be a huge disrespect to all the current players to abandon UO for "UO2". The bugs can be fixed in patches, the way the system works there isn't really any limit to the changes that can be made. It would be foolish to recreate the whole game, and with UO AND UO2, the support costs would double easily.
If you STEAL my car, I won't have a car anymore. If you COPY my car, I'll still have my car and I wouldn't really care one bit. No one is STEALING software, they are COPYING it. Stealing is not copying. Legally they may be considered the same, but not morally.
Consider this: instead of COPYING microsoft's software, some cracker actually manages to STEAL every single copy of windows microsoft has. Now microsoft can't even sell windows, because they don't have it. This would be much worse for microsoft than if windows was mearly COPIED.
Do you understand the difference between STEALING and COPYING now?
I could understand this if we were talking about gcc, the linux kernel, or something else like that. But this is a web browser! It's not like 0.7 is a stable release, it's a beta too - shouldn't the "closer to stable" 0.8 be used?
Or, you can just buy one of the new VIA Cyrix CPU's. They produce very little heat and work fine with a heatsink (no fan). They work in socket 370 motherboards. They ARE slow, but not too slow- and in this case speed isn't the priority.
I wish they would specialize a little more. Mandrake uses KDE and uses aurora, Redhat uses Gnome and uses a beta gcc. Suse is like mandrake with a different default config tool. Other than that they look the same. It's like having twelve different flavors of ice cream that are all strawberry.
I would much rather have a couple great server distros, a couple great desktop distros, and a couple low-cpu requirement distros. Better than having twelve that each try to do all three.
Your reasoning is: I use napster to steal music, yet I don't want CDDB to steal my work- and that makes me a hypocrite.
That isn't the case. It's like this: sharing music on napster is okay, and I don't care if CDDB is useing "my work". Suddenly napster decides to block sharing, while CDDB goes on and uses what you helped create to block you out.
Selling software. It is an option, for a couple reasons.
1) Most "average consumers" still don't have DSL or Cable, and therefore can't really download a 1GB+ linux distrobution.
2) Profesional look. Part of the reason why people buy Quake 3 when you can play the demo just fine. It's nice to have a know-good copy, some documentation, even the box.
3) You know what you are getting. Put yourself in an "average consumer's" shoes. You are at wallmart, you think about trying this "linux" thing. They have Redhat 7.0 (sounds familiar), and ABCD-Linux (claims to be based on Redhat 6.2, but you never heard of it before). I think most people would buy the product they trust, especially when the difference is going to be less than $10.
Are you sure about that? The installer gives a big warning about not being supported on anything except 2.2.x kernels, but sounds like it *might* work. After downloading I found out it actually didn't work.
Didn't mean to imply it was the fault of the 2.4.x kernel. When I said "kernel 2.4.x breaks the installer" I kinda ment "too bad the installer breaks so easily".
Yes I realize I could install from source manually, but I would more likely break something than end up with a useable system. It might not just be the 2.4 kernel, but while the installer works fine on redhat 7.0, it fails (after downloading 100+MB) with a core dump on fisher.
I'm sorry, but this just looks to me like a rant from an inexperienced teacher. I didn't like school, but I remember it well enough. The exact same kids who caused all kinds of trouble in one class would be fine in others.
Why?
Because the teachers are different. There are teachers who let students get away with anything, and the students took advantage of it. Then there were teachers who would try to use peer pressure "ok because John can't control himself, you all have an extra page of homework tonight"- John doesn't care, he wasn't planning on doing the homework anyway. The teachers who followed the rules to the letter are the ones who handled the problem kids the best. You cause a disruption, you get 1 warning, then suspension- or whatever the school's system was.
I believe I was very close to being a "problem kid", but I wasn't, mainly because I was too shy to talk in class. I believe the REAL problem is with the teaching system- not everyone learns the same way. I don't learn a damn thing from homework. I fall asleep during lectures. However, if I get interested in something I can pick it up in five minutes- and then go on and teach the people around me how to do it (kinda how highschool Physics class was).
Why would we suddenly start keeping obsolete equipment? Companies don't throw out broken equipment, they throw out broken OR OBSOLETE equipment. Lately I have had to throw out several computers, not because they are broken- but because they were old 486's without monitors or NICs and aren't worth anything. My boss's car (company owned) is probably also going to be replaced, not because it's damage beyond repair, but because the cost to repair is more than a new car would be.
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Yep. Motherboard w/video/sound+cpu is around $130, best buy has a 15GB hard drive for $40, CD-ROM's cost about $30. A cheap ATX case/PS can be had for $25. Mouse & keyboard can be found for $9. I'm sure you can find a nice 17" monitor for under $264.
However, I don't even think that is the point. The point was you can build a cheap duron/celeron system for $500 and buy a monitor for $400 and have a much nicer system than a $900 iMac.
Who has room for an iMac AND a 19" monitor on their desk? Technicly, I guess most people have the room, but it would be damn crowded and messy.
So what happens if in a fit of drunken insanity you charge more than you can pay in a month on your charge card? I.E. if you put $15,000 on a credit card, how is that worse than $15,000 on a charge card?
Here is a solution: the parents should be considered responsible for ANYTHING their kids do untill they turn 21. Kid goes crazy and shoots up his school, parents get tried for murder. Kid steals a six pack, parents get tried for theft. Kid gets pulled over for drunk driveing, parents lose their driver's liscense.
Crazy? Maybe. Not any worse than the laws we have though.
Why reinvent the wheel, as the saying goes. UO is a fine game, yes it has some major flaws, but nothing that can't be fixed. It would be a huge disrespect to all the current players to abandon UO for "UO2". The bugs can be fixed in patches, the way the system works there isn't really any limit to the changes that can be made. It would be foolish to recreate the whole game, and with UO AND UO2, the support costs would double easily.
If you STEAL my car, I won't have a car anymore. If you COPY my car, I'll still have my car and I wouldn't really care one bit. No one is STEALING software, they are COPYING it. Stealing is not copying. Legally they may be considered the same, but not morally.
Consider this: instead of COPYING microsoft's software, some cracker actually manages to STEAL every single copy of windows microsoft has. Now microsoft can't even sell windows, because they don't have it. This would be much worse for microsoft than if windows was mearly COPIED.
Do you understand the difference between STEALING and COPYING now?
Ahh, college. So instead of paying $2.5k for training, you spen $10k+ per semester for four years.
I could understand this if we were talking about gcc, the linux kernel, or something else like that. But this is a web browser! It's not like 0.7 is a stable release, it's a beta too - shouldn't the "closer to stable" 0.8 be used?
Mozilla 0.8 has been out for several weeks, what exactly is the point in including 0.7?
Or, you can just buy one of the new VIA Cyrix CPU's. They produce very little heat and work fine with a heatsink (no fan). They work in socket 370 motherboards. They ARE slow, but not too slow- and in this case speed isn't the priority.
I wish they would specialize a little more. Mandrake uses KDE and uses aurora, Redhat uses Gnome and uses a beta gcc. Suse is like mandrake with a different default config tool. Other than that they look the same. It's like having twelve different flavors of ice cream that are all strawberry.
I would much rather have a couple great server distros, a couple great desktop distros, and a couple low-cpu requirement distros. Better than having twelve that each try to do all three.
None of the alternatives are mainstream yet. They aren't newsworthy, and when they are I'm sure slashdot will start covering them.
If you see something you think should be on slashdot, submit it.
Shouldn't reply to a troll, but anyway....
Your reasoning is: I use napster to steal music, yet I don't want CDDB to steal my work- and that makes me a hypocrite.
That isn't the case. It's like this: sharing music on napster is okay, and I don't care if CDDB is useing "my work". Suddenly napster decides to block sharing, while CDDB goes on and uses what you helped create to block you out.
There isn't any hypocracy here.
Selling software. It is an option, for a couple reasons.
1) Most "average consumers" still don't have DSL or Cable, and therefore can't really download a 1GB+ linux distrobution.
2) Profesional look. Part of the reason why people buy Quake 3 when you can play the demo just fine. It's nice to have a know-good copy, some documentation, even the box.
3) You know what you are getting. Put yourself in an "average consumer's" shoes. You are at wallmart, you think about trying this "linux" thing. They have Redhat 7.0 (sounds familiar), and ABCD-Linux (claims to be based on Redhat 6.2, but you never heard of it before). I think most people would buy the product they trust, especially when the difference is going to be less than $10.
Pretty much everything you download with gnutella is "an unknown file from an unknown source". Your solution isn't much of one.
Are you sure about that? The installer gives a big warning about not being supported on anything except 2.2.x kernels, but sounds like it *might* work. After downloading I found out it actually didn't work.
Didn't mean to imply it was the fault of the 2.4.x kernel. When I said "kernel 2.4.x breaks the installer" I kinda ment "too bad the installer breaks so easily".
Yes I realize I could install from source manually, but I would more likely break something than end up with a useable system. It might not just be the 2.4 kernel, but while the installer works fine on redhat 7.0, it fails (after downloading 100+MB) with a core dump on fisher.
I'm sorry, but this just looks to me like a rant from an inexperienced teacher. I didn't like school, but I remember it well enough. The exact same kids who caused all kinds of trouble in one class would be fine in others.
Why?
Because the teachers are different. There are teachers who let students get away with anything, and the students took advantage of it. Then there were teachers who would try to use peer pressure "ok because John can't control himself, you all have an extra page of homework tonight"- John doesn't care, he wasn't planning on doing the homework anyway. The teachers who followed the rules to the letter are the ones who handled the problem kids the best. You cause a disruption, you get 1 warning, then suspension- or whatever the school's system was.
I believe I was very close to being a "problem kid", but I wasn't, mainly because I was too shy to talk in class. I believe the REAL problem is with the teaching system- not everyone learns the same way. I don't learn a damn thing from homework. I fall asleep during lectures. However, if I get interested in something I can pick it up in five minutes- and then go on and teach the people around me how to do it (kinda how highschool Physics class was).
Ahh, and of course a rich and powerfull organization would never dare to do anything illegal.
Under the DMCA, it is illegal to use a non-CPRM hard drive, because obviously the only use of such a hard drive would be to copy copyrighted data.
Spending five seconds with google turned up this.
It doesn't involve overclocked CPU's, but it shows the relative speeds of Athlon vs Pentium vs Mac G4 CPU's
http://www.barefeats.com/pentium.html
What exactly is the benefit of a slow, painful death?
Why would we suddenly start keeping obsolete equipment? Companies don't throw out broken equipment, they throw out broken OR OBSOLETE equipment. Lately I have had to throw out several computers, not because they are broken- but because they were old 486's without monitors or NICs and aren't worth anything. My boss's car (company owned) is probably also going to be replaced, not because it's damage beyond repair, but because the cost to repair is more than a new car would be.
Not really. The OSH you pointed at isn't software, so no conflict. Just like Duron is both a CPU and a brand of paint.