It depends on the level of hate. If it's a mere dislike, then sure, go ahead, dislike it. I've got no problem with that.
If it's a rabid hatred of the package, then reactions to it go far beyond rationality. Take, for example, your comparison of systemd to Islam. That shows you have little understanding of both systemd and Islam, and the fact you tried to compare them shows you're not thinking rationally on the subject.
Unfortunately, most reactions to systemd seem to be of the rabid hatred type. Just like the parent post, which tried to claim that Debian is dead, was sold out to Red Hat, and a buyout from Microsoft is inevitable. This is just not rational. The author's level of hatred on the subject is excessive, and it's interfering with their critical thinking. When that happens, I'd generally label it as bad.
Had a look at your example. It wasn't a particularly strong one. The guy was complaining about the network service failing. The reason was because he labelled his tethered phone interface as auto up. Not a good idea. Would have been better to label it as "allow-hotplug".
Another solution would be to use the systemd networkd configuration. That would react to the plugged interface event, and then automatically configure it.
So in this case, there was no fault with systemd. Seems like most complaints are because people don't understand systemd. Once you understand it, it's actually quite good to use.
Digital streaming requires your phone to establish a two-way communication with a cell tower, initiate the digital stream, process incoming packets, send packet replies, and then send the data to a DAC, and finally to an amplifier.
An FM chip can be almost entirely powered by the strength of the incoming FM signal. Power only needed for the amp. If everything else on the phone is shut down (cpu, display, cell transmission, etc), then I wouldn't be surprised if it was on the order of 100x more efficient than digital streaming.
Speaking purely theoretically here. No idea about the practicality of enabling FM reception on existing phones.
I believe her argument is that Google will only "protect" her works if she gives them a license to use her works. That could be considered racketeering or extortion.
And it seems to me that the artist has to license their work to Google, before Google has the legal ability to actually scan for it with their ContentID system. So basically, she wants Google to scan for copyright violations of her work, without legally allowing Google to do such a scan.
Have I got this right? If so, score +1 for artist stupidity. At least we got an entertaining read out of it.
Really? Most gaming journalism is utter bullshit? Methinks you have a penchant for hyperbole, my friend.
Sure, some game journalists may lack ethics, but I'm pretty sure it's not as pervasive as you make it out to be. Not that I read every game article in the world, I suppose, but the articles I do read, on the sites I visit, are often quite good and not afraid to call out bullshit when they encounter it. It also helps to realise that game reporting, for the most part, is a subjective issue. It's next to impossible to score. The best articles are ones which describe what the reviewer likes and dislikes about the game, so you can compare that to what you like and dislike. Any provided game score is almost immaterial.
Besides, as far as the PSVR is concerned, I also have the word of my brother, who works in the field of computer graphics, was at the recent GDC, and actually tried the headset there. If you can't trust family, who can you trust! OK, I may regret that last sentence.
Agreed about Bethesda, though I think that's the nature of that type of game. Even New Vegas suffered from quest bugs, and that was done by Obsidian.
Yes, you don't know me or my brother, so you can choose to disregard his informed opinion if you like. Yes, some journalists rush stories, or aren't quite knowledgeable as they should be, so you can choose to disregard what those journalists say. You can even believe that the end consumer product may not be as good as what was shown at the GDC. That's your belief.
The "morons" who have prepaid for it have read the opinions of people of many people that have experienced the product. They're basing their pre-purchase on the fact that all people who have tried it, have approved of it. This is an informed purchase. They're paying $400 for a product that has excellent reviews. Your take is basically "don't trust them, don't trust the thousands of people that have tried it, don't trust anyone but yourself". Basically, the cynical point of view.
I think it _very_ unlikely that Sony would take a product demonstrated to thousands of developers, and god knows how many journalists, and make it worse. But you know what, if you think they may do so, that's fine. I'm not actually trying to convince you to preorder the thing. I'm just trying to say that calling everyone who preorders it a moron, is a pretty awful thing to do, and even worse, is not even right. If it was ordered totally blind, you may have a leg to stand on. But the headset has been experienced by so many people, so many! The majority, or even unanimous, consensus is that it's the real deal. Based on that, a preorder is quite understandable.
Laugh if you will. Those that preorder this are happy with their decision. Please try to respect that and not insult them.
Do you realise that the finished PSVR was demonstrated to most game journalists and game developers in the recent Game Developers Conference? All reviews from this have been amazingly positive of the experience, except for one or two that complained about lag with the Move controller. They were _all_ very positive about the headset hardware itself, and its performance.
Now, perhaps 20% of those journalists may fit into your category of "stupid enough to fall for marketing hype". Not all, though. Certainly not the game devs. Those guys know what they're talking about.
My brother is a graphics programmer and a game dev. He was at the GDC. He tried the Sony headset. He was very impressed with it, rating it above the Vive for graphic quality, despite the PSVR having lower resolution. Believe me, he is no idiot.
The PSVR undoubtedly works well. Development has been years in the making, starting even before the Rift kickstarter, and it is now finished. The only ones who bore the development costs are Sony themselves. All is left now is manufacturing and distribution. Preorders help the manufacturer know what demand there is for the product, and how much effort they need to go to for manufacture. People putting their money down early is the best way for a manufacturer to gauge what demand will be like. The preorder numbers are invaluable for the high level of manufacturing needed for this.
Virtual reality has been a dream for a lot of people. Sony's PSVR has made that dream relatively affordable. Don't be a dick and call them dumb.
Though I do know that Sony initially intended a June/July release. When they realised the demand, though, they decided to release in October so they can manufacture more units. Now, knowing Sony's experience in tech manufacturing, I guess we can reasonably assume they'll have 500k units available by October. Perhaps 200k of those assigned to the US, and, I don't know, 20-40k for Amazon? It's a rough guesstimate.
But Sony already have a VR solution for the PS4. It's actually been shown to, and used by, many games journalists. I think they use a coprocessor or DSP (or more than one?) to offload the VR processing. The public don't actually know how they do it, but what is certain is that they have done it. Plus, from all reports, they're doing it at 120fps.
The PS VR is lower resolution than Rift/Vive. I'm sure that helps. There may also be optimisations due to the fixed platform. Also, this will all be around the same price as the PS4 itself. At least that's what Sony are aiming for, from what I've heard.
Did tablet computing fail the first time because the technology was immature, or because people hate looking like assholes tapping on this flat rectangular thing?
Nobody, and I mean _nobody_, knows how a technology will turn out until it is actually out there. Often, a technology needs years of development before its potential becomes evident. Otherwise, Apple would have given up on portable computing with the Newton. Every time you use your smartphone, think on that.
I want Slashdot to greet me every day with an audible "Hello Dave, you're looking well today". But I don't want Slashdot to go crazy and try to kill me.
If my IP changes, then yes, I have to log in again. It is pretty annoying.
I assume it was introduced to stop accounts from being hijacked through stolen cookies. If you have to keep that function, it would be nice for Slashdot to recognise that I log in often from 3 or 4 unique IPs, not just one. Also, allowing the cookie to work from a subnet of IPs, rather than a single IP, could help those who are often assigned different addresses with their internet connection.
I'd go for this. Sounds like it could be interesting. Of course, you have to worry about firehose voting being abused. Though rather than trying to second-guess what could go wrong, try it out, and see how the community react to it.
Yep, you're right that console pirating definitely exists. Though as a whole, piracy rates are very low on modern consoles, to the point where you could consider them negligible. Therefore his point stands about prices not being lowered in the face of effectively 0% piracy. Effectively, media companies are using piracy as a strawman to push their agenda.
*shrug* I'm just trying to be helpful and point out that you're acting as bad as the original poster, therefore your response loses significant worth. That's a pretty good reason to be polite. It's up to you whether you want to take the point, or let loose with more ad hominem responses.
You also need to look up the definition of condescension and pretentious. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
That's it from me. I'll respond no more on this topic, so feel free to have the last word.
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Phew, now I can read your otherwise informative reply without bemoaning your inherent hostility. Yeah, I know, the OP was just as bad. Don't let that detract your response, though!
Something else to add to the discussion. The name "duck tape" _may_ be because of the duck cloth backing. Another theory on the name comes from the tape being waterproof like a duck. Even one more theory is that it was named after the DUKW amphibious vehicle.
We're not after perfect performance for the first generation of VR. We're after decent performance. By all accounts, this has been achieved. Reports about the PS VR, Oculus Rift, and the HTC Vive all say that it is very involving and responsive. None have mentioned resolution being an irritation or distraction.
Whether VR is hype or not is too early to tell. It could be the next generation of computer interface. It could just be all steam. Nobody yet knows.
Well, from my experience, it is a form of self-sufficiency. Hens are sourced from local places, because keeping roosters is not very polite for neighbours. Yes, feed can be needed to supplement their food source, but chickens will eat all sorts of kitchen scraps, including egg shells themselves, and will eat bugs around the garden, and also any pulled weeds. Much better than throwing it in the garden waste bin. You don't want to rely on grain for their feed, as a wide variety of food will benefit them more. If you have a family that generate a good amount of food scraps, your reliance on feed will be minor.
Raising hens for eggs is not for everyone, that we can agree on. But it is an option, and is open to quite a large number of people. Also, I think it's a positive activity, and worth the effort. It's also a great family activity.
You will not make self-sufficiency obsolete and unnecessary. Eggs from chickens will always occupy that segment, that is, until people can produce their own artificial eggs.
The recipe to make eggs obsolete: artificial yolk contained in a fine membrane, surrounded by artificial whites, in a convenient container, for a price point significantly less than what the egg industry can farm it. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's likely a very long way off. Until then, the egg industry will still be there.
There's always a way for one will. But one way for many? Sure, why not. I look forward to trying out my first artificial egg breakfast. If they can make egg yolks coagulate at a higher temperature, I may even prefer them.
Yep, I agree that backyards aren't going to feed the whole US. But, it will feed the house that has the backyard, which is kind of the point of such a setup. Hence the original query has been answered.
As for rolling chicken coops, where there's a will, there's a way, my friend. Do a google search on what people have built. Ingenuity abounds.
If Hampton Creek pull off a near indistinguishable liquid yolk/white product at a price point below eggs, I'm sure we'll be moving to their product pretty quickly. It'd actually be quite convenient when producing cakes and such. Though, the liquid stuff can't replace a sunny side up egg on toast, with a rich yolk that flows like molten nutrition when the sac is cut. Nor can it be used in a Korean restaurant, when you order a bibimbap. Plenty of other types of meals that require that certain mix of whites and yolk that only eggs can give.
The other "need" is for self-sufficiency. All good and fine if a company wants to produce eggs for you. If you want to make them yourself, your only option is to raise chickens.
All excellent points. I agree with most of them, well, except for the backyard space. Canada/US are both quite big. There would be plenty of people with backyards big enough to support a few hens.
There are solutions to the cleaning up issue. You can get a rolling cage that effectively spreads the waste around the yard. This deals with the stink problem too, as the waste is dispersed and is allowed to break down before it becomes offensive. Has a good side-effect of providing fertilisation for the yard.
I've got no experience with dealing with racoons and coyotes, so can't really comment. I'm sure a sufficiently sturdy cage could fend them off, though.
Care, feed, cost per egg, and all that jazz, well, that's a bit of a strawman argument, as the original question was how to avoid dealing with those associated with the egg lobby. If you have to work a bit more, pay a little extra, then that's the cost of trying to achieve your ideal.
I applaud Hampton Creek for doing what they're doing. There's certainly a place in this world for their products. Though they will never completely replace the need for eggs, or the need for some people to raise hens for self-sufficiency, consequences of such notwithstanding.
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It depends on the level of hate. If it's a mere dislike, then sure, go ahead, dislike it. I've got no problem with that.
If it's a rabid hatred of the package, then reactions to it go far beyond rationality. Take, for example, your comparison of systemd to Islam. That shows you have little understanding of both systemd and Islam, and the fact you tried to compare them shows you're not thinking rationally on the subject.
Unfortunately, most reactions to systemd seem to be of the rabid hatred type. Just like the parent post, which tried to claim that Debian is dead, was sold out to Red Hat, and a buyout from Microsoft is inevitable. This is just not rational. The author's level of hatred on the subject is excessive, and it's interfering with their critical thinking. When that happens, I'd generally label it as bad.
Had a look at your example. It wasn't a particularly strong one. The guy was complaining about the network service failing. The reason was because he labelled his tethered phone interface as auto up. Not a good idea. Would have been better to label it as "allow-hotplug".
Another solution would be to use the systemd networkd configuration. That would react to the plugged interface event, and then automatically configure it.
So in this case, there was no fault with systemd. Seems like most complaints are because people don't understand systemd. Once you understand it, it's actually quite good to use.
Don't worry, just another systemd hater. People can be very passionate about their software.
Digital streaming requires your phone to establish a two-way communication with a cell tower, initiate the digital stream, process incoming packets, send packet replies, and then send the data to a DAC, and finally to an amplifier.
An FM chip can be almost entirely powered by the strength of the incoming FM signal. Power only needed for the amp. If everything else on the phone is shut down (cpu, display, cell transmission, etc), then I wouldn't be surprised if it was on the order of 100x more efficient than digital streaming.
Speaking purely theoretically here. No idea about the practicality of enabling FM reception on existing phones.
I believe her argument is that Google will only "protect" her works if she gives them a license to use her works. That could be considered racketeering or extortion.
And it seems to me that the artist has to license their work to Google, before Google has the legal ability to actually scan for it with their ContentID system. So basically, she wants Google to scan for copyright violations of her work, without legally allowing Google to do such a scan.
Have I got this right? If so, score +1 for artist stupidity. At least we got an entertaining read out of it.
Really? Most gaming journalism is utter bullshit? Methinks you have a penchant for hyperbole, my friend.
Sure, some game journalists may lack ethics, but I'm pretty sure it's not as pervasive as you make it out to be. Not that I read every game article in the world, I suppose, but the articles I do read, on the sites I visit, are often quite good and not afraid to call out bullshit when they encounter it. It also helps to realise that game reporting, for the most part, is a subjective issue. It's next to impossible to score. The best articles are ones which describe what the reviewer likes and dislikes about the game, so you can compare that to what you like and dislike. Any provided game score is almost immaterial.
Besides, as far as the PSVR is concerned, I also have the word of my brother, who works in the field of computer graphics, was at the recent GDC, and actually tried the headset there. If you can't trust family, who can you trust! OK, I may regret that last sentence.
Agreed about Bethesda, though I think that's the nature of that type of game. Even New Vegas suffered from quest bugs, and that was done by Obsidian.
Supermodels around the world will rejoice.
Yes, you don't know me or my brother, so you can choose to disregard his informed opinion if you like. Yes, some journalists rush stories, or aren't quite knowledgeable as they should be, so you can choose to disregard what those journalists say. You can even believe that the end consumer product may not be as good as what was shown at the GDC. That's your belief.
The "morons" who have prepaid for it have read the opinions of people of many people that have experienced the product. They're basing their pre-purchase on the fact that all people who have tried it, have approved of it. This is an informed purchase. They're paying $400 for a product that has excellent reviews. Your take is basically "don't trust them, don't trust the thousands of people that have tried it, don't trust anyone but yourself". Basically, the cynical point of view.
I think it _very_ unlikely that Sony would take a product demonstrated to thousands of developers, and god knows how many journalists, and make it worse. But you know what, if you think they may do so, that's fine. I'm not actually trying to convince you to preorder the thing. I'm just trying to say that calling everyone who preorders it a moron, is a pretty awful thing to do, and even worse, is not even right. If it was ordered totally blind, you may have a leg to stand on. But the headset has been experienced by so many people, so many! The majority, or even unanimous, consensus is that it's the real deal. Based on that, a preorder is quite understandable.
Laugh if you will. Those that preorder this are happy with their decision. Please try to respect that and not insult them.
Do you realise that the finished PSVR was demonstrated to most game journalists and game developers in the recent Game Developers Conference? All reviews from this have been amazingly positive of the experience, except for one or two that complained about lag with the Move controller. They were _all_ very positive about the headset hardware itself, and its performance.
Now, perhaps 20% of those journalists may fit into your category of "stupid enough to fall for marketing hype". Not all, though. Certainly not the game devs. Those guys know what they're talking about.
My brother is a graphics programmer and a game dev. He was at the GDC. He tried the Sony headset. He was very impressed with it, rating it above the Vive for graphic quality, despite the PSVR having lower resolution. Believe me, he is no idiot.
The PSVR undoubtedly works well. Development has been years in the making, starting even before the Rift kickstarter, and it is now finished. The only ones who bore the development costs are Sony themselves. All is left now is manufacturing and distribution. Preorders help the manufacturer know what demand there is for the product, and how much effort they need to go to for manufacture. People putting their money down early is the best way for a manufacturer to gauge what demand will be like. The preorder numbers are invaluable for the high level of manufacturing needed for this.
Virtual reality has been a dream for a lot of people. Sony's PSVR has made that dream relatively affordable. Don't be a dick and call them dumb.
Nobody would know, except for Sony and Amazon.
Though I do know that Sony initially intended a June/July release. When they realised the demand, though, they decided to release in October so they can manufacture more units. Now, knowing Sony's experience in tech manufacturing, I guess we can reasonably assume they'll have 500k units available by October. Perhaps 200k of those assigned to the US, and, I don't know, 20-40k for Amazon? It's a rough guesstimate.
Try a slackline instead. Good fun, and can be set up anywhere with two decent anchor points.
Even better, try slacklining while wearing a pair of VR goggles. Best of both worlds.
But Sony already have a VR solution for the PS4. It's actually been shown to, and used by, many games journalists. I think they use a coprocessor or DSP (or more than one?) to offload the VR processing. The public don't actually know how they do it, but what is certain is that they have done it. Plus, from all reports, they're doing it at 120fps.
The PS VR is lower resolution than Rift/Vive. I'm sure that helps. There may also be optimisations due to the fixed platform. Also, this will all be around the same price as the PS4 itself. At least that's what Sony are aiming for, from what I've heard.
Did tablet computing fail the first time because the technology was immature, or because people hate looking like assholes tapping on this flat rectangular thing?
Nobody, and I mean _nobody_, knows how a technology will turn out until it is actually out there. Often, a technology needs years of development before its potential becomes evident. Otherwise, Apple would have given up on portable computing with the Newton. Every time you use your smartphone, think on that.
I want Slashdot to greet me every day with an audible "Hello Dave, you're looking well today". But I don't want Slashdot to go crazy and try to kill me.
If my IP changes, then yes, I have to log in again. It is pretty annoying.
I assume it was introduced to stop accounts from being hijacked through stolen cookies. If you have to keep that function, it would be nice for Slashdot to recognise that I log in often from 3 or 4 unique IPs, not just one. Also, allowing the cookie to work from a subnet of IPs, rather than a single IP, could help those who are often assigned different addresses with their internet connection.
I'd go for this. Sounds like it could be interesting.
Of course, you have to worry about firehose voting being abused. Though rather than trying to second-guess what could go wrong, try it out, and see how the community react to it.
This is one of the most entertaining AC threads I've read on Slashdot for a long time. And I've been reading Slashdot for a long time.
Yep, you're right that console pirating definitely exists. Though as a whole, piracy rates are very low on modern consoles, to the point where you could consider them negligible. Therefore his point stands about prices not being lowered in the face of effectively 0% piracy. Effectively, media companies are using piracy as a strawman to push their agenda.
*shrug* I'm just trying to be helpful and point out that you're acting as bad as the original poster, therefore your response loses significant worth. That's a pretty good reason to be polite. It's up to you whether you want to take the point, or let loose with more ad hominem responses.
You also need to look up the definition of condescension and pretentious. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
That's it from me. I'll respond no more on this topic, so feel free to have the last word.
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Phew, now I can read your otherwise informative reply without bemoaning your inherent hostility. Yeah, I know, the OP was just as bad. Don't let that detract your response, though!
Something else to add to the discussion. The name "duck tape" _may_ be because of the duck cloth backing. Another theory on the name comes from the tape being waterproof like a duck. Even one more theory is that it was named after the DUKW amphibious vehicle.
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We're not after perfect performance for the first generation of VR. We're after decent performance. By all accounts, this has been achieved. Reports about the PS VR, Oculus Rift, and the HTC Vive all say that it is very involving and responsive. None have mentioned resolution being an irritation or distraction.
Whether VR is hype or not is too early to tell. It could be the next generation of computer interface. It could just be all steam. Nobody yet knows.
Well, from my experience, it is a form of self-sufficiency. Hens are sourced from local places, because keeping roosters is not very polite for neighbours. Yes, feed can be needed to supplement their food source, but chickens will eat all sorts of kitchen scraps, including egg shells themselves, and will eat bugs around the garden, and also any pulled weeds. Much better than throwing it in the garden waste bin. You don't want to rely on grain for their feed, as a wide variety of food will benefit them more. If you have a family that generate a good amount of food scraps, your reliance on feed will be minor.
Raising hens for eggs is not for everyone, that we can agree on. But it is an option, and is open to quite a large number of people. Also, I think it's a positive activity, and worth the effort. It's also a great family activity.
You will not make self-sufficiency obsolete and unnecessary. Eggs from chickens will always occupy that segment, that is, until people can produce their own artificial eggs.
The recipe to make eggs obsolete: artificial yolk contained in a fine membrane, surrounded by artificial whites, in a convenient container, for a price point significantly less than what the egg industry can farm it. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's likely a very long way off. Until then, the egg industry will still be there.
There's always a way for one will. But one way for many? Sure, why not. I look forward to trying out my first artificial egg breakfast. If they can make egg yolks coagulate at a higher temperature, I may even prefer them.
Yep, I agree that backyards aren't going to feed the whole US. But, it will feed the house that has the backyard, which is kind of the point of such a setup. Hence the original query has been answered.
As for rolling chicken coops, where there's a will, there's a way, my friend. Do a google search on what people have built. Ingenuity abounds.
If Hampton Creek pull off a near indistinguishable liquid yolk/white product at a price point below eggs, I'm sure we'll be moving to their product pretty quickly. It'd actually be quite convenient when producing cakes and such. Though, the liquid stuff can't replace a sunny side up egg on toast, with a rich yolk that flows like molten nutrition when the sac is cut. Nor can it be used in a Korean restaurant, when you order a bibimbap. Plenty of other types of meals that require that certain mix of whites and yolk that only eggs can give.
The other "need" is for self-sufficiency. All good and fine if a company wants to produce eggs for you. If you want to make them yourself, your only option is to raise chickens.
All excellent points. I agree with most of them, well, except for the backyard space. Canada/US are both quite big. There would be plenty of people with backyards big enough to support a few hens.
There are solutions to the cleaning up issue. You can get a rolling cage that effectively spreads the waste around the yard. This deals with the stink problem too, as the waste is dispersed and is allowed to break down before it becomes offensive. Has a good side-effect of providing fertilisation for the yard.
I've got no experience with dealing with racoons and coyotes, so can't really comment. I'm sure a sufficiently sturdy cage could fend them off, though.
Care, feed, cost per egg, and all that jazz, well, that's a bit of a strawman argument, as the original question was how to avoid dealing with those associated with the egg lobby. If you have to work a bit more, pay a little extra, then that's the cost of trying to achieve your ideal.
I applaud Hampton Creek for doing what they're doing. There's certainly a place in this world for their products. Though they will never completely replace the need for eggs, or the need for some people to raise hens for self-sufficiency, consequences of such notwithstanding.