They don't seem to care about Mozilla anymore, for some reason. It's not set to be phased out, that I know of. I went to their site to download some web advertisment buttons and all they had is FireFox Now!--no Mozilla related ones. So I e-mailed them and said I have trouble recommending FireFox at this point because it's not release quality and people I konw need the whole suite, so do they have a Mozilla button? They said no, and hoped I could recommend FireFox when it goes 1.0.
I realize they are building (or re-building) the calendar and e-mail clients seperately, but they have a completely production-worthy product right now that they don't seem to care much for.
I must disagree. Open Enterprise Server will come with the NetWare kernel and the SUSE Linux kernel. You can use either kernel to run all of the services you want (Novell services, GroupWise, eDirectory, etc, etc, OR the SUSE Linux services, postfix, apache, use yast and all that).
It's really a transition product to get the NetWare people onto Linux by making all of the services available on both platforms. Even though Novell denies it, unless if something goes horribly wrong, knock on wood, the NetWare kernel should eventually go away.
NetWare is a great and stable platform and their products scale well. I hope they can really pull this new server product off.
Is this David Dennis of Amazing.com Silicon Graphics and diesel Mercedes fame?! It's Matt at Invisik.com! Remember me?
Yes, I heard the SKII was better built, but the salespeople at the T-Mobile store say it's still not very sturdy. I still like the SKII and am always tempted to return my 7100t for it.
I imagine the data entry in the SideKick must be very very fast. I mean no tapping the screen or scrolling the thumbwheel. What's your impression there?
I hear the SKII has better reception and sound quality then the original. Maybe you should upgrade anyway......?
Word is the 7100t can provide GPRS internet service via Bluetooth, although not officially supported. I believe I saw a post on pdastreet.com about it in the RIM forum.
The 7100t does not come with a SSH client, but you can add one for a monthly fee (the ssh service provider has to proxy you, thus the fee).
The SideKick has a ssh client in it already, no extra charge, I believe.
I think the speed of the connection will keep you away from it most of the time. But if you have to get something done, it does work.
-No camera. Business device people. This is not a benefit, merely a lack of functionality.
I supposed it depends on your point of view. Either way, I'm glad it doesn't have a camera. In a business device, I would rather space, weight, functionality and storage be used up by something more worthwhile then a camera or MP3 player.
-The new keyboard is not that bad after you use it for a week. The keyboard is fine on the Treo
I agree. I tried it briefly at the T-Mobile store. The 7100t has a new predictive input system that has everyone scared of it. I ultimately prefer the calculator-style BlackBerry keyboard the most.
-Charges over USB cable, no extra power adapters needed (major plus) I use the L'il Sync USB chrge/sync cable (~£5)
Ahh that is cool then. Sad it's not included with the unit but as an extra item to purchase. But at least it's available....
The RIM 7100t is a more fair comparison, IMHO. For $199 (after $100 rebate from T-Mobile) you get just about everything the Treo 650 does. I decided I couldn't wait for the 650 to come out so I got the 7100t (Actually, I could still return it if I wanted to). I'm a long time Palm user, and have used the Treo 600 before.
Some notes on my experience of the BB over the Palm:
-No camera. Business device people. -Can do dial-up networking over USB and Bluetooth. -Full one-handed operation. Somewhat clumsy at times, but you can get-r-done. -Push e-mail. (isn't the 650 supposed to have this?) You don't have to buy the BB Enterprise Server software for just syncing e-mail, there's a "desktop" version. -Software is made for syncing with corporate e-mail, no middle Palm Desktop stuff to break on you -The new keyboard is not that bad after you use it for a week. -Push e-mail can be delayed 10 or 15 minutes at times. -I miss the Calendar Palm app, was much faster to enter an appt and pick the start and stop times. -Form factor of the BB is pretty slim, fits easily in front pants pocket (older ones were way too big) -Charges over USB cable, no extra power adapters needed (major plus) -I miss the 4 dedicated PIM keys on the Palm. Alawys so much drilling in and out of the menus. BB has two blank spots where they could have had two user-assignable keys, that would have rocked. They have a dedicated Browser key and a dedicated Telephone key. -Soud quality is good to excellent on headset and to the ear to both parties -No bluetooth to PC sync. Can't imagine why.
All in all, as a business workhorse handset, I think the Blackberry 7100t at $199 is an excellent choice. It's not perfect, by any stretch, but is getting there. I suggest you test drive any of the units (including the SideKick II) at your local T-Mobile (or Cingular I suppose) store....
Yes, I find that to be a trend, somewhat reverse of what you'd think should be done. The government can't come up with the funds to provide the social programs, so they make some big money in some business venture to fund the social programs. It'll be interesting in the next 5-10 years to see how some of these countries are doing with this tactic...
You don't want to start over AGAIN with a new platform, do you? Drivers and all that crap. Linux is 90% of the way there and has 90% of the apps people need. Could the GUI stand to be improved on Linux (KDE and GNOME), yes sure it does. I really don't want to go through the whole drivers and hardware compatibility stuff again.
Besides, you'd then again be locked into a single vendor for your OS--might as well stay on Windows then. Is any OS that great to lock yourself back in?
Geez people! Novell has this already done for us in an enterprise-grade package on multiple platforms. eDirectory! Don't waste time re-inventing everything when it's already there.
I can' find my pictures from when we visited the Mona Lisa in France, but I don't recally much security around it. Everyone was taking pictures of it, but I believe it was in a glass case of some sort on the wall. It was buried deep wihtin the museum, about a 20 minute walk in, up and down many stairs, so that alone would make a quick escape difficult.
I think dial-up internet users have trouble keeping their def's up to date, yes. Broadband users, however, typically leave their computer on all the time, so the automatic updating usually works. Norton Antivirus has gotten a lot smarter in catching the latest defs when it can, not on a set schedule anymore.
Will anyone update their phone? Hopefully it has automatic updates that "just run" when the phone is on and idle. Of course, that has yet to be seen.
Overall, I agree with the others--a phone should be secure enough from the get-go to not need all this overhead.
IMHO, KDE should be moving toward better functionality and ease of use for the desktop then writing Google into it. I understand the desire to dominate the world, but I don't think the basics are quote covered yet.
The functionality of the K-apps and how loosely they integrate (and don't integrate with anything else) is at about MS Office 95 level.
I see searchings importance on a scale of 1 to 10 at about a 3. Most users I know have everything in one folder, maybe a couple of nested folders and that's it. Not too hard to find stuff if there's one or two places to look.
Seems to be you should use the one thing made for sharing files, the mighty internet (lower case). You must have a machine at home, send files there, or ssh (or even Remote Desktop) into it and copy stuff directly to it.
So, that RC2 was soooo unstable (3 of 5 machines wouldn't boot afterwards) and now the release is stated as "stable" ? I find it hard to believe that they were able to fix it that quickly.
Does anyone have a GM they've tested yet?
I'm still worried about having everyone install it right away... Will probably recommend to wait until September.....
This thing is great. I need to get one to replace my IBM Thinkpad X31. It's big enough (size and power) to do some actual work if you need to and if you don't have a PC at a client site (a little VNC or remotedesktop, etc or some e-mail checking etc) but small enough to carry. Would definately lose the PDA and X31 and just carry the U70 and cell phone. No bluetooth phone dialing, which I'll miss, but I think it would be worth it.
I don't like it has a dongle for ethernet, as everywhere doesn't have wireless, but I suppose stick it in the glove box and get it when you need it.
Batt life sounds great, too. I wonder how big the power cord is. Needs some cell phone internet integration so you can be "always on"....
It's on the list. Just too bad we didn't see them when we visited Japan earlier this year....:(
I worked at a place that was running redundant T1's just as you describe. They might as well have had all the wires running together the whole way.
My issues from there:
1. How do you convince an ISP to bring a feed in from another CO? Distance is a huge problem--they don't want to run it.
2. How do you know what the ISP has on their end, UPS's, generators, etc? Should that be part of the SLA? Or should you demand a tour of their facilities to see where your wire goes?
3. How can you coordinate two seperate ISP's for automatic redundancy? I suppose with a LinkProof box or something. And how do you know they aren't coming through the same telco CO?
4. Should you pay to have them manage the lines and router configurations in a 24/7 scenario? Or does it work well enough to have them do the initial install and then let it run?
5. Finally, what's a resonable cost for this redundancy?
I have some more projects that will be requiring this type of setup. Am interested to hear any opinions and recomendations from experience from fellow slashdotters......
We, as tech geeks, have the moral decision on wether to help Microsoft (by ranting and explaining what the problems are and suggesting possible solutions) or keeping to ourselves about it. Do we want to help Microsoft fix their issues to become better (read: more dominant)? Or do we want to promote alternatives instead? The community needs to decide.
We've recently figured out how to use the monumentus problems that exist in IE to our advantage--even the US government sides with us. I, for one, wouldn't mind keeping that trend going to strenghten out position. Not because we "want to stick it to MS" but because we believe our products are better (free, open, technically) and because the Microsoft product is of a lower quality, license, etc.
Has anyone held a Mozilla InstallFest? Or an Opera one? Or a Internet Security Awareness seminar?
I have people walk up to me and say "Man, I get lots of pop up ads and having to run Ad-Aware twice a week to keep my computer barely running. What else can I do?" My response is to use a different browser instead of Internet Explorer. The response 75% of the time is "There's other browsers then Internet Explorer?" and the other 25% of the time is "I heard about that before but don't know what to use." People (read: general computing public) are starting to take notice the aging IE browser is causing them problems.
In my opinion, the time is now (literally right now, maybe before Windows XP SP2 comes out) to start public tooting the alternative browser (and to a lesser extent, alternative OS) in the public. IBM, Novell, SUSE, RedHat, Apple, Mozilla Foundation, Opera--all of these people should be throwing articles to the newswire about alternative browsers and how they switched their employees and how great it is now. Hell, I'm even considering writing up a short article and sending it to some local papers discussing my success with converting companies to alternative browsers just for some airplay. On a small scale, put up flyers at local WiFi hangouts with titles like "Free Fix for Pop-up windows?" and "Best Spyware Fix" to start with the somewhat techy computing public to raise awareness and give them URLs to look at.
(my little pitch for Mozilla) I think it's an excellent choice for stopping pop-ups because it's built-in to the browser. Installing external op-up blockers on IE is not a 100% foolproof scneraio and if you don't get all of them, your annoyance has not totally stopped. The mail client is good and basic, has junk mail feature if you take time to train it. And being based on the Netscape code (eveyone knows Netscape so I always mention that) it's compatible with just about everything and works well. Opera is good as well, but my main choice of Mozilla is it is free, in all senses of the word, and being based on Netscape, I'm familiar with it from back in the day, so I have more knowledge about files and menus right out of the box. Some new users find Opera's highly windowed and buttoned interface a bit confusing for basic browsing.
In any event, I think the next few weeks to a month until XP SP2 comes out will be (or should I say CAN BE) interesting times for our community. When XP XP2 comes out, it'll be much harder to argue for alternatives as a lot of the problems will be addressed. My guess is enough will be addressed that people who were worried about it before won't worry anymore and the need to explore alternatives will be gone. XP SP2 is slated to have a pop-up blocker--it going to be a tough sell when it comes out on that argument.
I hope for the best. I like the improvements that are coming for IE, it will help prevent spyway and viruses, etc. That is a good thing no matter what. But I hope we can take advantage of a typically-delayed Microsoft release to get ourselves out there a bit more.
(I apologize if I jump around too much, just woke up!)
Get your Novell on and wrap it all up in some eDirectory. DirXML it to your hearts content if need be. And run it on Linux! Probably run the whole thing on 1 or 2 servers.
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They don't seem to care about Mozilla anymore, for some reason. It's not set to be phased out, that I know of. I went to their site to download some web advertisment buttons and all they had is FireFox Now!--no Mozilla related ones. So I e-mailed them and said I have trouble recommending FireFox at this point because it's not release quality and people I konw need the whole suite, so do they have a Mozilla button? They said no, and hoped I could recommend FireFox when it goes 1.0.
I realize they are building (or re-building) the calendar and e-mail clients seperately, but they have a completely production-worthy product right now that they don't seem to care much for.
I just don't get it.
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Yes, that is correct! You get the best of BOTH worlds with OES. That's why it's so interesting (or should be interesting) to companies out there......
Thanks.
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I must disagree. Open Enterprise Server will come with the NetWare kernel and the SUSE Linux kernel. You can use either kernel to run all of the services you want (Novell services, GroupWise, eDirectory, etc, etc, OR the SUSE Linux services, postfix, apache, use yast and all that).
It's really a transition product to get the NetWare people onto Linux by making all of the services available on both platforms. Even though Novell denies it, unless if something goes horribly wrong, knock on wood, the NetWare kernel should eventually go away.
NetWare is a great and stable platform and their products scale well. I hope they can really pull this new server product off.
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Hey there,
Is this David Dennis of Amazing.com Silicon Graphics and diesel Mercedes fame?! It's Matt at Invisik.com! Remember me?
Yes, I heard the SKII was better built, but the salespeople at the T-Mobile store say it's still not very sturdy. I still like the SKII and am always tempted to return my 7100t for it.
I imagine the data entry in the SideKick must be very very fast. I mean no tapping the screen or scrolling the thumbwheel. What's your impression there?
I hear the SKII has better reception and sound quality then the original. Maybe you should upgrade anyway......?
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Hey,
Word is the 7100t can provide GPRS internet service via Bluetooth, although not officially supported. I believe I saw a post on pdastreet.com about it in the RIM forum.
The 7100t does not come with a SSH client, but you can add one for a monthly fee (the ssh service provider has to proxy you, thus the fee).
The SideKick has a ssh client in it already, no extra charge, I believe.
I think the speed of the connection will keep you away from it most of the time. But if you have to get something done, it does work.
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-No camera. Business device people.
This is not a benefit, merely a lack of functionality.
I supposed it depends on your point of view. Either way, I'm glad it doesn't have a camera. In a business device, I would rather space, weight, functionality and storage be used up by something more worthwhile then a camera or MP3 player.
-The new keyboard is not that bad after you use it for a week.
The keyboard is fine on the Treo
I agree. I tried it briefly at the T-Mobile store. The 7100t has a new predictive input system that has everyone scared of it. I ultimately prefer the calculator-style BlackBerry keyboard the most.
-Charges over USB cable, no extra power adapters needed (major plus)
I use the L'il Sync USB chrge/sync cable (~£5)
Ahh that is cool then. Sad it's not included with the unit but as an extra item to purchase. But at least it's available....
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The RIM 7100t is a more fair comparison, IMHO. For $199 (after $100 rebate from T-Mobile) you get just about everything the Treo 650 does. I decided I couldn't wait for the 650 to come out so I got the 7100t (Actually, I could still return it if I wanted to). I'm a long time Palm user, and have used the Treo 600 before.
Some notes on my experience of the BB over the Palm:
-No camera. Business device people.
-Can do dial-up networking over USB and Bluetooth.
-Full one-handed operation. Somewhat clumsy at times, but you can get-r-done.
-Push e-mail. (isn't the 650 supposed to have this?) You don't have to buy the BB Enterprise Server software for just syncing e-mail, there's a "desktop" version.
-Software is made for syncing with corporate e-mail, no middle Palm Desktop stuff to break on you
-The new keyboard is not that bad after you use it for a week.
-Push e-mail can be delayed 10 or 15 minutes at times.
-I miss the Calendar Palm app, was much faster to enter an appt and pick the start and stop times.
-Form factor of the BB is pretty slim, fits easily in front pants pocket (older ones were way too big)
-Charges over USB cable, no extra power adapters needed (major plus)
-I miss the 4 dedicated PIM keys on the Palm. Alawys so much drilling in and out of the menus. BB has two blank spots where they could have had two user-assignable keys, that would have rocked. They have a dedicated Browser key and a dedicated Telephone key.
-Soud quality is good to excellent on headset and to the ear to both parties
-No bluetooth to PC sync. Can't imagine why.
All in all, as a business workhorse handset, I think the Blackberry 7100t at $199 is an excellent choice. It's not perfect, by any stretch, but is getting there. I suggest you test drive any of the units (including the SideKick II) at your local T-Mobile (or Cingular I suppose) store....
Questions?
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Yes, I find that to be a trend, somewhat reverse of what you'd think should be done. The government can't come up with the funds to provide the social programs, so they make some big money in some business venture to fund the social programs. It'll be interesting in the next 5-10 years to see how some of these countries are doing with this tactic...
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And let's call it, say, the x87 math co-processor? :)
Naw, you really need two of the same chips in there. Too much steering of processes and whatnot otherwise.
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You don't want to start over AGAIN with a new platform, do you? Drivers and all that crap. Linux is 90% of the way there and has 90% of the apps people need. Could the GUI stand to be improved on Linux (KDE and GNOME), yes sure it does. I really don't want to go through the whole drivers and hardware compatibility stuff again.
Besides, you'd then again be locked into a single vendor for your OS--might as well stay on Windows then. Is any OS that great to lock yourself back in?
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Geez people! Novell has this already done for us in an enterprise-grade package on multiple platforms. eDirectory! Don't waste time re-inventing everything when it's already there.
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Wow! That's some amazing scenery. And a cool panoramic picture, too. Thanks for sharing that.
What's that structure on the far right?
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Having never been there myself, it would be cool to see before and after shots of the area in the event of an eruption. Any one out there listening?
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I can' find my pictures from when we visited the Mona Lisa in France, but I don't recally much security around it. Everyone was taking pictures of it, but I believe it was in a glass case of some sort on the wall. It was buried deep wihtin the museum, about a 20 minute walk in, up and down many stairs, so that alone would make a quick escape difficult.
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I think dial-up internet users have trouble keeping their def's up to date, yes. Broadband users, however, typically leave their computer on all the time, so the automatic updating usually works. Norton Antivirus has gotten a lot smarter in catching the latest defs when it can, not on a set schedule anymore.
Will anyone update their phone? Hopefully it has automatic updates that "just run" when the phone is on and idle. Of course, that has yet to be seen.
Overall, I agree with the others--a phone should be secure enough from the get-go to not need all this overhead.
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IMHO, KDE should be moving toward better functionality and ease of use for the desktop then writing Google into it. I understand the desire to dominate the world, but I don't think the basics are quote covered yet.
:)
The functionality of the K-apps and how loosely they integrate (and don't integrate with anything else) is at about MS Office 95 level.
I see searchings importance on a scale of 1 to 10 at about a 3. Most users I know have everything in one folder, maybe a couple of nested folders and that's it. Not too hard to find stuff if there's one or two places to look.
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PS: Was there an article to read?
Seems to be you should use the one thing made for sharing files, the mighty internet (lower case). You must have a machine at home, send files there, or ssh (or even Remote Desktop) into it and copy stuff directly to it.
Could use more information, how much data, etc.
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So, that RC2 was soooo unstable (3 of 5 machines wouldn't boot afterwards) and now the release is stated as "stable" ? I find it hard to believe that they were able to fix it that quickly.
Does anyone have a GM they've tested yet?
I'm still worried about having everyone install it right away... Will probably recommend to wait until September.....
Thanks for any additional info!
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Hey,
:(
This thing is great. I need to get one to replace my IBM Thinkpad X31. It's big enough (size and power) to do some actual work if you need to and if you don't have a PC at a client site (a little VNC or remotedesktop, etc or some e-mail checking etc) but small enough to carry. Would definately lose the PDA and X31 and just carry the U70 and cell phone. No bluetooth phone dialing, which I'll miss, but I think it would be worth it.
I don't like it has a dongle for ethernet, as everywhere doesn't have wireless, but I suppose stick it in the glove box and get it when you need it.
Batt life sounds great, too. I wonder how big the power cord is. Needs some cell phone internet integration so you can be "always on"....
It's on the list. Just too bad we didn't see them when we visited Japan earlier this year....
Keep the good stuff coming, Sony!!!
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While I live in the US, I've accessed slashdot from europe, africa and asia, on my cell phone and my laptop..... It's good stuff!
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Not quite a mailing list, mind you, but seriously, who needs more then what Slashdot offers?
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I worked at a place that was running redundant T1's just as you describe. They might as well have had all the wires running together the whole way.
My issues from there:
1. How do you convince an ISP to bring a feed in from another CO? Distance is a huge problem--they don't want to run it.
2. How do you know what the ISP has on their end, UPS's, generators, etc? Should that be part of the SLA? Or should you demand a tour of their facilities to see where your wire goes?
3. How can you coordinate two seperate ISP's for automatic redundancy? I suppose with a LinkProof box or something. And how do you know they aren't coming through the same telco CO?
4. Should you pay to have them manage the lines and router configurations in a 24/7 scenario? Or does it work well enough to have them do the initial install and then let it run?
5. Finally, what's a resonable cost for this redundancy?
I have some more projects that will be requiring this type of setup. Am interested to hear any opinions and recomendations from experience from fellow slashdotters......
Thanks much!
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I don't need to read it, I've lived it.... :)
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We, as tech geeks, have the moral decision on wether to help Microsoft (by ranting and explaining what the problems are and suggesting possible solutions) or keeping to ourselves about it. Do we want to help Microsoft fix their issues to become better (read: more dominant)? Or do we want to promote alternatives instead? The community needs to decide.
We've recently figured out how to use the monumentus problems that exist in IE to our advantage--even the US government sides with us. I, for one, wouldn't mind keeping that trend going to strenghten out position. Not because we "want to stick it to MS" but because we believe our products are better (free, open, technically) and because the Microsoft product is of a lower quality, license, etc.
Has anyone held a Mozilla InstallFest? Or an Opera one? Or a Internet Security Awareness seminar?
I have people walk up to me and say "Man, I get lots of pop up ads and having to run Ad-Aware twice a week to keep my computer barely running. What else can I do?" My response is to use a different browser instead of Internet Explorer. The response 75% of the time is "There's other browsers then Internet Explorer?" and the other 25% of the time is "I heard about that before but don't know what to use." People (read: general computing public) are starting to take notice the aging IE browser is causing them problems.
In my opinion, the time is now (literally right now, maybe before Windows XP SP2 comes out) to start public tooting the alternative browser (and to a lesser extent, alternative OS) in the public. IBM, Novell, SUSE, RedHat, Apple, Mozilla Foundation, Opera--all of these people should be throwing articles to the newswire about alternative browsers and how they switched their employees and how great it is now. Hell, I'm even considering writing up a short article and sending it to some local papers discussing my success with converting companies to alternative browsers just for some airplay. On a small scale, put up flyers at local WiFi hangouts with titles like "Free Fix for Pop-up windows?" and "Best Spyware Fix" to start with the somewhat techy computing public to raise awareness and give them URLs to look at.
(my little pitch for Mozilla) I think it's an excellent choice for stopping pop-ups because it's built-in to the browser. Installing external op-up blockers on IE is not a 100% foolproof scneraio and if you don't get all of them, your annoyance has not totally stopped. The mail client is good and basic, has junk mail feature if you take time to train it. And being based on the Netscape code (eveyone knows Netscape so I always mention that) it's compatible with just about everything and works well. Opera is good as well, but my main choice of Mozilla is it is free, in all senses of the word, and being based on Netscape, I'm familiar with it from back in the day, so I have more knowledge about files and menus right out of the box. Some new users find Opera's highly windowed and buttoned interface a bit confusing for basic browsing.
In any event, I think the next few weeks to a month until XP SP2 comes out will be (or should I say CAN BE) interesting times for our community. When XP XP2 comes out, it'll be much harder to argue for alternatives as a lot of the problems will be addressed. My guess is enough will be addressed that people who were worried about it before won't worry anymore and the need to explore alternatives will be gone. XP SP2 is slated to have a pop-up blocker--it going to be a tough sell when it comes out on that argument.
I hope for the best. I like the improvements that are coming for IE, it will help prevent spyway and viruses, etc. That is a good thing no matter what. But I hope we can take advantage of a typically-delayed Microsoft release to get ourselves out there a bit more.
(I apologize if I jump around too much, just woke up!)
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Get your Novell on and wrap it all up in some eDirectory. DirXML it to your hearts content if need be. And run it on Linux! Probably run the whole thing on 1 or 2 servers.
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