They might be saying that but it does not tally with my experience. I have met some very intelligent people who believe that the voices that they hear are being produced by an external source. Of course my subjective personal experiences of working with people with mental disorders does not count for much in the grand scheme of things but I have not noticed a general tendency for voice hearers to be markedly less intelligent than 'sane' people.
Inventing 'gibberish' words is a recognised symptom of psychosis called neologism. It is actually quite rare even amongst people who are very psychotic, in my experience.
Mental disorder is not the same as personality disorder. I am pleased that you found medication useful but the statement that there is no effective medication to treat personality disorder is correct
But Dubya is generally regarded as a retard outside the US. The Neo-Conservative pre-emption strategy is wide open to abuse. I was talking to an Iranian friend of mine the other day and she said how would you feel if the world's only superpower invaded the country next to you and made threatening noises towards you?
9/11 was a terrible despicable attrocity but the fact remains that policies enacted by the current administration kill lots of innocent people too. Most people I know *like* Americans (as people) but hate their government.
It's not brilliant (IMO) but it's at least fairly consistent and reasonably OO. Coming from an MFC (and previously C/Windows) background I found it quite pleasant.
I can't say I've had the same experience. I've written and run stuff on Windows, Linux and OS X without a hitch. Maybe I just got lucky.
I think the multiple GUI thing is a bit of red herring too. You could quite justifiably extend your point to most of the Java platform classes (e.g. IO versus NIO) but in my experience it's very difficult to get these things right first time. How many stabs at database access have MS tried? Strictly in GUI terms I think Java has done OK. AWT was quickly abandoned and replaced with Swing. Now Swing has a lot of critics but I think the basic design is reasonably sound. Performance is an issue unless you are an expert but (a) I think that will be largely resolved with Java 5 and (b) I'd rather have a sound design but less than optimal implementation than the reverse.
How many ways does it have to be said: open source is winning so let's just relax. It should go without saying but most people at MS are just, erm, people with the same interests, ideals and values as everyone else. I know it's amusing (not least to me) to demonise them but I think that is a tad unfair.
I once had a MS guy wheeled in to tell me that J2EE was fundamentally broken and that he'd spent 2 years at Barclays bank (it's a UK high-street bank) trying to get it to work and it just wouldn't. This went on for 30 mins or so. Then I invited him to come around the corner (literally) and see the J2EE-based demo my team had put together in the previous 2 days...
I suppose the point is that all companies are basically all about winning contracts and never mind the truth. It sounds stupid to be pointing that out as I'm sure 99% of you deal with that in your daily working life. Yes, MS as a corporation is particularly ruthless but let's not get carried away. They are just the ultimate embodiment of what most corporations would like to be. Don't kid yourself that Apple, Oracle or whoever wouldn't be as evil if they could only figure out how. Well, IMO. If I'm wrong then great. Seriously.
Before anyone picks me up on this: yes, I know that PHBs might just be a modern phemenon and that the ppl on the show were just acting a role but it was all too believable when a pseudo-Roman emporer threw a hissy fit because his cavalry weren't being sent up the hill he wanted...
Time Commanders was a great show. I enjoyed the preview of Rome Total War but I enjoyed more the study in detail of group dynamics. The basic format was that each week a team of 4 somehow-related people (usually work colleagues) fought against the AI. 2 of the team took responsibility for a flank each, moving their units, etc. The other 2 stood on a raised platform with an overhead map (updated in real-time) shouting directions to the other 2 - i.e. behaving as generals might perhaps.
Almost without fail, each week one of the 'generals' would be spectacularly clueless and be disobeyed and / or generally ignored. I guess I've probably worked too long in cubicle-land but it all seemed horribly familiar - I guess PHBs go back to the dawn of time.
Possibly true but Mac I.E. is horribly unstable. My partner has always been a Windows user but I bought her an iMac a few weeks ago. She used it for a couple of days then asked me if there was an alternative to I.E. as its constant crashing was driving her nuts.
I stuck Mozilla on there and she loves it!
Mind you, I must confess I'm a bit surprised because although Mozilla is my browser of choice I wouldn't really rank stability as a huge strengh. It's pretty good these days, IMO, but not bullet proof.
Anyway, my main point is that although I might well evaluate I.E. for the Mac with an anti-MS bias my partner doesn't carry that baggage and merely wanted a good browser, regardless of vendor. It took her just two days to ditch I.E. Go figure.
I take your point but the Argentinian economy is in total meltdown and I'm not surprised that cost has become an issue. Last I heard the Argentinian national debt was in the region of $132 billion - may not seem a lot by American standards but the Argies really don't have any way to service a debt of that size.
The unwillingness of your VB friends to give up their syntax actually validates the article's claim.
VB.Net syntax is substantially different to VB 6. Check out the VB.Net newsgroup for the ongoing debate or take a look here (http://www.mvps.org/vb/index2.html?rants/vfred.ht m) as a starting point.
I think the guy you're thinking of is Trevor Baylis (http://www.britishcouncil.org/science/science/per sonalities/text/ukperson/baylis.htm)
He's a bit of a small-time media celeb here in the UK and quite an eccentric but his clockwork radio is very popular in parts of Africa. Nelson Mandela even helped him set up a company in South Africa to make them.
Well, I understand it and I don't think the cross-language compatibility is the most important thing really.
I doubt any large commercial project would contemplate mixing components written in different languages to any great extent. Your average PHB has a hard enough time (no, I'm not sympathetic) without trying to cope with developers with totally different skill sets and multiple implementation languages.
IMHO, the most important thing about.Net will be that over time C# will dominate as the language-of-choice for component developers and C++/ATL/COM will slowly fade. About time too!
Obviously MS has historically had the knack of coming late to a market with an inferior product and sweeping all aside but I really think they're going to fail to dominate the console market.
Consider this:
- Console gamers are (generally) a breed apart from PC gamers
- Brand identity is v. important in the console world. MS doesn't have an image there yet apart from perhaps being perceived as a bunch of old farts from the PC world.
- PC games != console games. The fundamental design ethos behind console games is for the most part totally different to PC games which tend to appeal to the more anal amongst us (and I say that as a PC gamer before anyone reaches for their flamethrower).
- If you want to play PC games you buy a PC, right? 12 months from now the bleeding edge gaming hardware for PCs will blow the XBox's frozen-in-time stuff away
Does any of that sound like a recipe for success? Not to me.....
Just because MS is infatuated with the PC paradigm (ouch! shoot me!) doesn't mean end users are. E.g. Sure, iPAQs are getting more popular but who still dominates the PDA market? Palm. We all know the reasons why but MS *can't* seem to see beyond their noses.
Mind you, I couldn't really give a rat's ass who wins the console war. It kinda reminds me of a bunch of school kids playing rock-paper-scissors.
I thought it was so that Sony could claim the PS2 is a 'real' computer to get around the European Union's import tax on game consoles?
I could be wrong though...
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Everything you say is true but I don't find the inability to create a truely native-feeling Windows UI a huge issue.
Unless you must achieve that goal for some reason then screw the native UI. What I'd like to see is a Swing L&F that's *better* than the standard Windows widgets. Make it a selling point, not a drawback.
Most (clueful) Windows users already tweak their desktop as far as posssible to get away from the 'boring grey rectangle' school of design that MS have favoured in the past (pre-XP) so I wouldn't underestimate the user base's willingness to embrace new types and styles of controls.
I'm honestly not trolling and I like the site but is it that much work to create a few web pages each week?
I'd guess that most Linux users already know most of what they find there and wouldn't find it an impossible burden to produce an equivalent.
I'm not denigrating their efforts - it's a cool site, etc - but if the community really wanted an equivalent to survive it doesn't sound too difficult.
Get Alan Cox (or whoever) to write the kernel page
Get the KDE team to produce a page
Get the Gnome team to produce a page
etc
Do that once a week and that's not far off what the good people at LWN do now, is it?
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Or just observe their behaviour ever since they started.
The funny thing is that if you talk to their employees they *genuinely* believe that their extensions "add value for the customer" (and that's a direct quote from an apparently sincere person that's quite high up in MS).
.Net is pretty cool if you're a Windows developer BUT it's also a great example of why sticking with one company is a really bad idea.
My company is just about to release a COM-based product that has had many person years of effort expended on it. Once the.Net bandwagon really starts rolling it's going to look like "legacy technology" (in PHB-speak) and we're going to have to re-write large chunks of it just to get the.Net tick-in-the-box from the marketing 'droids.
We are official partners of MS and *we* are being screwed by.Net so God help everyone else.
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They might be saying that but it does not tally with my experience. I have met some very intelligent people who believe that the voices that they hear are being produced by an external source. Of course my subjective personal experiences of working with people with mental disorders does not count for much in the grand scheme of things but I have not noticed a general tendency for voice hearers to be markedly less intelligent than 'sane' people.
Inventing 'gibberish' words is a recognised symptom of psychosis called neologism. It is actually quite rare even amongst people who are very psychotic, in my experience.
Mental disorder is not the same as personality disorder. I am pleased that you found medication useful but the statement that there is no effective medication to treat personality disorder is correct
Apologies in advance to any Republicans...
But Dubya is generally regarded as a retard outside the US. The Neo-Conservative pre-emption strategy is wide open to abuse. I was talking to an Iranian friend of mine the other day and she said how would you feel if the world's only superpower invaded the country next to you and made threatening noises towards you?
9/11 was a terrible despicable attrocity but the fact remains that policies enacted by the current administration kill lots of innocent people too. Most people I know *like* Americans (as people) but hate their government.
It's not brilliant (IMO) but it's at least fairly consistent and reasonably OO. Coming from an MFC (and previously C/Windows) background I found it quite pleasant.
I can't say I've had the same experience. I've written and run stuff on Windows, Linux and OS X without a hitch. Maybe I just got lucky.
I think the multiple GUI thing is a bit of red herring too. You could quite justifiably extend your point to most of the Java platform classes (e.g. IO versus NIO) but in my experience it's very difficult to get these things right first time. How many stabs at database access have MS tried? Strictly in GUI terms I think Java has done OK. AWT was quickly abandoned and replaced with Swing. Now Swing has a lot of critics but I think the basic design is reasonably sound. Performance is an issue unless you are an expert but (a) I think that will be largely resolved with Java 5 and (b) I'd rather have a sound design but less than optimal implementation than the reverse.
How many ways does it have to be said: open source is winning so let's just relax. It should go without saying but most people at MS are just, erm, people with the same interests, ideals and values as everyone else. I know it's amusing (not least to me) to demonise them but I think that is a tad unfair.
I once had a MS guy wheeled in to tell me that J2EE was fundamentally broken and that he'd spent 2 years at Barclays bank (it's a UK high-street bank) trying to get it to work and it just wouldn't. This went on for 30 mins or so. Then I invited him to come around the corner (literally) and see the J2EE-based demo my team had put together in the previous 2 days...
I suppose the point is that all companies are basically all about winning contracts and never mind the truth. It sounds stupid to be pointing that out as I'm sure 99% of you deal with that in your daily working life. Yes, MS as a corporation is particularly ruthless but let's not get carried away. They are just the ultimate embodiment of what most corporations would like to be. Don't kid yourself that Apple, Oracle or whoever wouldn't be as evil if they could only figure out how. Well, IMO. If I'm wrong then great. Seriously.
Before anyone picks me up on this: yes, I know that PHBs might just be a modern phemenon and that the ppl on the show were just acting a role but it was all too believable when a pseudo-Roman emporer threw a hissy fit because his cavalry weren't being sent up the hill he wanted...
Time Commanders was a great show. I enjoyed the preview of Rome Total War but I enjoyed more the study in detail of group dynamics. The basic format was that each week a team of 4 somehow-related people (usually work colleagues) fought against the AI. 2 of the team took responsibility for a flank each, moving their units, etc. The other 2 stood on a raised platform with an overhead map (updated in real-time) shouting directions to the other 2 - i.e. behaving as generals might perhaps.
Almost without fail, each week one of the 'generals' would be spectacularly clueless and be disobeyed and / or generally ignored. I guess I've probably worked too long in cubicle-land but it all seemed horribly familiar - I guess PHBs go back to the dawn of time.
Possibly true but Mac I.E. is horribly unstable. My partner has always been a Windows user but I bought her an iMac a few weeks ago. She used it for a couple of days then asked me if there was an alternative to I.E. as its constant crashing was driving her nuts.
I stuck Mozilla on there and she loves it!
Mind you, I must confess I'm a bit surprised because although Mozilla is my browser of choice I wouldn't really rank stability as a huge strengh. It's pretty good these days, IMO, but not bullet proof.
Anyway, my main point is that although I might well evaluate I.E. for the Mac with an anti-MS bias my partner doesn't carry that baggage and merely wanted a good browser, regardless of vendor. It took her just two days to ditch I.E. Go figure.
I take your point but the Argentinian economy is in total meltdown and I'm not surprised that cost has become an issue. Last I heard the Argentinian national debt was in the region of $132 billion - may not seem a lot by American standards but the Argies really don't have any way to service a debt of that size.
All the technologies you mention are reasonably good but they *are* immature in the sense that the implementations are all v1.0.
The unwillingness of your VB friends to give up their syntax actually validates the article's claim.
t m) as a starting point.
VB.Net syntax is substantially different to VB 6. Check out the VB.Net newsgroup for the ongoing debate or take a look here (http://www.mvps.org/vb/index2.html?rants/vfred.h
I think the guy you're thinking of is Trevor Baylis (http://www.britishcouncil.org/science/science/per sonalities/text/ukperson/baylis.htm)
He's a bit of a small-time media celeb here in the UK and quite an eccentric but his clockwork radio is very popular in parts of Africa. Nelson Mandela even helped him set up a company in South Africa to make them.
A minor nit: the Ti PowerBook has actually got an AirPort card built in already.
Um.....dude.......could you, like, send me a copy of that pic?
Really? I've just put SuSe 7.3 on my Powerbook and I didn't find any of those partitions.......
.......mind you, I've now toasted my machine....
Well, I understand it and I don't think the cross-language compatibility is the most important thing really.
.Net will be that over time C# will dominate as the language-of-choice for component developers and C++/ATL/COM will slowly fade. About time too!
I doubt any large commercial project would contemplate mixing components written in different languages to any great extent. Your average PHB has a hard enough time (no, I'm not sympathetic) without trying to cope with developers with totally different skill sets and multiple implementation languages.
IMHO, the most important thing about
Obviously MS has historically had the knack of coming late to a market with an inferior product and sweeping all aside but I really think they're going to fail to dominate the console market.
Consider this:
- Console gamers are (generally) a breed apart from PC gamers
- Brand identity is v. important in the console world. MS doesn't have an image there yet apart from perhaps being perceived as a bunch of old farts from the PC world.
- PC games != console games. The fundamental design ethos behind console games is for the most part totally different to PC games which tend to appeal to the more anal amongst us (and I say that as a PC gamer before anyone reaches for their flamethrower).
- If you want to play PC games you buy a PC, right? 12 months from now the bleeding edge gaming hardware for PCs will blow the XBox's frozen-in-time stuff away
Does any of that sound like a recipe for success? Not to me.....
Just because MS is infatuated with the PC paradigm (ouch! shoot me!) doesn't mean end users are. E.g. Sure, iPAQs are getting more popular but who still dominates the PDA market? Palm. We all know the reasons why but MS *can't* seem to see beyond their noses.
Mind you, I couldn't really give a rat's ass who wins the console war. It kinda reminds me of a bunch of school kids playing rock-paper-scissors.
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Are you sure that's the reason?
I thought it was so that Sony could claim the PS2 is a 'real' computer to get around the European Union's import tax on game consoles?
I could be wrong though...
Everything you say is true but I don't find the inability to create a truely native-feeling Windows UI a huge issue.
Unless you must achieve that goal for some reason then screw the native UI. What I'd like to see is a Swing L&F that's *better* than the standard Windows widgets. Make it a selling point, not a drawback.
Most (clueful) Windows users already tweak their desktop as far as posssible to get away from the 'boring grey rectangle' school of design that MS have favoured in the past (pre-XP) so I wouldn't underestimate the user base's willingness to embrace new types and styles of controls.
I'm honestly not trolling and I like the site but is it that much work to create a few web pages each week?
I'd guess that most Linux users already know most of what they find there and wouldn't find it an impossible burden to produce an equivalent.
I'm not denigrating their efforts - it's a cool site, etc - but if the community really wanted an equivalent to survive it doesn't sound too difficult.
Get Alan Cox (or whoever) to write the kernel page
Get the KDE team to produce a page
Get the Gnome team to produce a page
etc
Do that once a week and that's not far off what the good people at LWN do now, is it?
Or just observe their behaviour ever since they started.
The funny thing is that if you talk to their employees they *genuinely* believe that their extensions "add value for the customer" (and that's a direct quote from an apparently sincere person that's quite high up in MS).
.Net is pretty cool if you're a Windows developer BUT it's also a great example of why sticking with one company is a really bad idea.
.Net bandwagon really starts rolling it's going to look like "legacy technology" (in PHB-speak) and we're going to have to re-write large chunks of it just to get the .Net tick-in-the-box from the marketing 'droids.
.Net so God help everyone else.
My company is just about to release a COM-based product that has had many person years of effort expended on it. Once the
We are official partners of MS and *we* are being screwed by