but i haven't seen a lot of definitive proof showing we have.
I think it comes down to simple statistics. If you execute n people, and the chance of an innocent person being found guilty is m where m>0 (and surely, nobody can argue that m==0), and the chance of an innocent convicted people found not guilty before being executed being o, then it follows that (m*n - (m*n*o)) innocent people are executed.
Unless you're living in a perfect world, there's no way you'll end up with no innocent people being executed.
lso, how many of us might have thought about committing violence against someone at some point, but didn't, because we don't want to be in prison or on death row?
Dude! Talk for yourself!
Seriously, I hope you're not somebody I'll ever meet in real life.
Not sure what grandparent was referring to, but international comparison seems to show that there is no positive correlation between severity of punishment and crime rate. It's the opposite, in fact. Whether there's any direct causation - well, who knows.
If you have so much faith in humanity, and if you believe only 4-5% of the population are psychopaths, then the world should be filled with compassion and empathy, and unity should be just around the corner.
You know, I see a lot of inane arguments on slashdot, but most at least appear to be somewhat logical. Have you actually thought about what you wrote before you wrote it? Do you seriously not see the problem with your argument?
All psychopaths, lack the capability to feel guilt
This is so wrong, it's absurd that anyone could actually believe something like this. You do quite simply not know what you are talking about. There are people with mental issues who don't feel guilt. These are a tiny minority of all killers, and a tiny minority of all people with mental issues (psychopaths, as you call them).
In fact, a lot of people who murder or rape eventually try to kill themselves to stop the guilt, and to stop themselves from killing or raping again.
That applies to any human being. You never know what people are going to do. So let's just kill us all and let God sort us out. Savest solution for everyone involved.
So, you agree then that Apple "made it somewhat hard to move unprotected music around". That's all I claimed.
No. You said "Apple has taken a variety of technological and UI measures to make it difficult to move stuff around."
This is quite simply false.
iTunes does not contain any functionality to move unprotected music off an iPod. That can hardly be called "a variety of technological and UI measures to make it difficult to move stuff around," even if by "stuff," you mean "music."
By the way, since the iPod can be used as a hard disk, "moving stuff around" is one of the very basic functions of an iPod.
All your other useless, irrelevant verbiage is just the typical Mac zealotry: people like you give the Mac a bad name.
Well, that's really cheap. Do you always start calling people names when you run out of arguments?
First, you claim that Apple targets stupid people. Then, pointing out falsehoods about Apple is "Mac zealotry."
If I give "Mac people" (whatever that is) a bad name, I don't know what you do.
Well... Anyway. Good luck with whatever it is that you're doing.
Well... Better to be late than to suck. Or, as Miyamoto put it: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a bad game is bad forever." (Well, I'm not sure he said it, but the quote is generally attributed to him).
That may sound a bit harsh, but it's only hard if you're a moron.
That may sound a bit harsh, but that's the group Apple targets as their customers: people who don't know much about computers.
Well, if your argument is that iPods suck because stupid people can't get music off them, I must concede that you're right: Stupid people probably can't get music off them, despite of the fact that there are dozens of applications on versiontracker and macupdate which make that task extremely straightforward. However, if that is your argument, then we should also argue general usability. In my opinion, the iPod is the best player for stupid users, because it makes most things extremely easy.
If the iPod sucks for stupid people because they can't get music off it, then every other player sucks even more, because most other tasks are even harder on most other players.
These measures prevent Apple's user community quite effectively from moving data back and forth freely.
Well, I know a lot of Mac users with iPod, but I don't know anyone who had any trouble getting his music off his iPod. I must assume that most Mac users you know are morons, but I assure you that this does not apply to most Mac users in general.
through iTunes if the "other" computer is allowed to read these files - the copy prevention only applies to non-DRM'd files.
My point exactly: Apple has taken a variety of technological and UI measures to make it difficult to move stuff around.
No. They made it somewhat hard to move unprotected music around. They made it very easy to move music you bought.
That's in contrast to other MP3 players that make it very easy to move stuff around. Heck, I can plug my no-name Chinese MP3 player into another no-name Chinese MP3 player and exchange any file I want, easily and without a Ph.D. in computer science. But my iPod makes all the things Apple doesn't want me to do hard--deliberately.
That is true. And it is true for most "media hardware," by the way: No-name cheap chinese crap can almost always do tons of stuff which brand-name japanese/european/american hardware can't do. You generally pay for that with a crappy UI and useless documentation, but it's a trade-off that may make sense. I only buy chinese DVD players, because they are always code-free and cost like 20 bucks, for example.
Unfortunately, they always come with these insane remotes with about 50 buttons on them, all of them the same size and labeled with nonsensical labels or pictograms.
Sim City (the original version), Tetris, Puyo Puyo (or variations of it), Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World.
And of course, five multi-player classics which I keep in active duty on all consoles they appear on: Mario Kart, Mario Party, Super Monkey Ball, Bomberman, Donkey Konga.
I slid open the battery cover and put in another pair of AAA batteries
So, does your MP3 player house an 80 gig disk? Or is it as small as an iPod nano?
Batteries have their place. But inside an MP3 player, their place is not.
Getting MP3 files off an iPod is not hard
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The fact that it's hard to get music off the device is also driven by DRM concerns
That may sound a bit harsh, but it's only hard if you're a moron. Seriously, if you know a small bit about the Terminal, you don't even need any kind of third-party app to copy MP3 files from an iPod. It's all there as plain old files, just inside invisible (to the Finder, that is) folders. It's not hard at all.
Yeah, it's not as easy as it should be, although it has got nothing to do with DRM - in fact, you can copy DRM'd files off an iPod through iTunes if the "other" computer is allowed to read these files - the copy prevention only applies to non-DRM'd files.
No, they don't. Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I can't find an iRiver player which doesn't support Microsoft's proprietary DRM. So in order to avoid Apple's proprietary DRM, you buy a player which supports Microsoft's proprietary DRM, ignoring the fact that you can use both players with plain old MP3 files. Are you insane or just stupid?
But it isn't hard to add a new controller after the fact
Actually, it is hard. I know of only one case where it worked: The Dual Shock on the original PS. And that one only worked because the new controller was a superset of the old one (it added the analog sticks) and because it came very early in the PS's life.
You can't just go ahead and replace the pack-in controller with something totally different. How would people play the old games with the new controller? You'd essentially fragment your customers. It would be like having two entirely different consoles. The only alternative is selling the new controller as a standalone item. That doesn't work either, because you won't sell a ton until there are lots of good games for the controller, and there won't be lots of good games for the controller unless you sell a ton. Look at the Cube Bongos, at the PS2 camera... Hell, look at the Power Glove.
How do you propose Sony would go about introducing a Wiimote clone for the PS3?
The only version I've ever seen is "Hamid." Wikipedia uses "Hamid" consistently. "Hamad" is either wrong or very, very rarely used - and the fact that Google only brings up 600 results for "hamad karzai" leads me to believe that it's wrong.
I'm European, and I just love to wait. In fact, I'll wait at least two or three more years until I'll get a PS3. If I ever get one. Because I'll wait until the price of your rich man's toy comes down to a more agreable level.
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I think it comes down to simple statistics. If you execute n people, and the chance of an innocent person being found guilty is m where m>0 (and surely, nobody can argue that m==0), and the chance of an innocent convicted people found not guilty before being executed being o, then it follows that (m*n - (m*n*o)) innocent people are executed.
Unless you're living in a perfect world, there's no way you'll end up with no innocent people being executed.
Dude! Talk for yourself!
Seriously, I hope you're not somebody I'll ever meet in real life.
Not sure what grandparent was referring to, but international comparison seems to show that there is no positive correlation between severity of punishment and crime rate. It's the opposite, in fact. Whether there's any direct causation - well, who knows.
I'd guess not a whole lot.
It's not like it would turn "normal" people into murderers or something.
By the way, he was joking.
You know, I see a lot of inane arguments on slashdot, but most at least appear to be somewhat logical. Have you actually thought about what you wrote before you wrote it? Do you seriously not see the problem with your argument?
This is so wrong, it's absurd that anyone could actually believe something like this. You do quite simply not know what you are talking about. There are people with mental issues who don't feel guilt. These are a tiny minority of all killers, and a tiny minority of all people with mental issues (psychopaths, as you call them).
In fact, a lot of people who murder or rape eventually try to kill themselves to stop the guilt, and to stop themselves from killing or raping again.
That applies to any human being. You never know what people are going to do. So let's just kill us all and let God sort us out. Savest solution for everyone involved.
I'm not sure which answer I should go with:
No. You said "Apple has taken a variety of technological and UI measures to make it difficult to move stuff around."
This is quite simply false.
iTunes does not contain any functionality to move unprotected music off an iPod. That can hardly be called "a variety of technological and UI measures to make it difficult to move stuff around," even if by "stuff," you mean "music."
By the way, since the iPod can be used as a hard disk, "moving stuff around" is one of the very basic functions of an iPod.
Well, that's really cheap. Do you always start calling people names when you run out of arguments?
First, you claim that Apple targets stupid people. Then, pointing out falsehoods about Apple is "Mac zealotry."
If I give "Mac people" (whatever that is) a bad name, I don't know what you do.
Well... Anyway. Good luck with whatever it is that you're doing.
Ah, so the reason couldn't possibly be that they're constantly shot, detained, their houses and workplaces destroyed, their family members killed.
Don't tell me it's finally possible to see the puck!
Well... Better to be late than to suck. Or, as Miyamoto put it: "A delayed game is eventually good, but a bad game is bad forever."
(Well, I'm not sure he said it, but the quote is generally attributed to him).
Well, if your argument is that iPods suck because stupid people can't get music off them, I must concede that you're right: Stupid people probably can't get music off them, despite of the fact that there are dozens of applications on versiontracker and macupdate which make that task extremely straightforward. However, if that is your argument, then we should also argue general usability. In my opinion, the iPod is the best player for stupid users, because it makes most things extremely easy.
If the iPod sucks for stupid people because they can't get music off it, then every other player sucks even more, because most other tasks are even harder on most other players.
Well, I know a lot of Mac users with iPod, but I don't know anyone who had any trouble getting his music off his iPod. I must assume that most Mac users you know are morons, but I assure you that this does not apply to most Mac users in general.
No. They made it somewhat hard to move unprotected music around. They made it very easy to move music you bought.
That is true. And it is true for most "media hardware," by the way: No-name cheap chinese crap can almost always do tons of stuff which brand-name japanese/european/american hardware can't do. You generally pay for that with a crappy UI and useless documentation, but it's a trade-off that may make sense. I only buy chinese DVD players, because they are always code-free and cost like 20 bucks, for example.
Unfortunately, they always come with these insane remotes with about 50 buttons on them, all of them the same size and labeled with nonsensical labels or pictograms.
No, I just read at games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=199749 that it's definitely a rumor, and they even link to sources.
Sonic (the first), Zelda: Link's Awakening.
Only five? Hm... Some I keep coming back to are:
Sim City (the original version), Tetris, Puyo Puyo (or variations of it), Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World.
And of course, five multi-player classics which I keep in active duty on all consoles they appear on: Mario Kart, Mario Party, Super Monkey Ball, Bomberman, Donkey Konga.
Yeah, because people have never pirated games until, uhm, about a week ago.
Or maybe people did always pirate games, and there were no more games?
I think I'm a bit confused about the past. Please enlighten me.
So, does your MP3 player house an 80 gig disk? Or is it as small as an iPod nano?
Batteries have their place. But inside an MP3 player, their place is not.
That may sound a bit harsh, but it's only hard if you're a moron. Seriously, if you know a small bit about the Terminal, you don't even need any kind of third-party app to copy MP3 files from an iPod. It's all there as plain old files, just inside invisible (to the Finder, that is) folders. It's not hard at all.
Yeah, it's not as easy as it should be, although it has got nothing to do with DRM - in fact, you can copy DRM'd files off an iPod through iTunes if the "other" computer is allowed to read these files - the copy prevention only applies to non-DRM'd files.
No, they don't. Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I can't find an iRiver player which doesn't support Microsoft's proprietary DRM. So in order to avoid Apple's proprietary DRM, you buy a player which supports Microsoft's proprietary DRM, ignoring the fact that you can use both players with plain old MP3 files. Are you insane or just stupid?
Actually, it is hard. I know of only one case where it worked: The Dual Shock on the original PS. And that one only worked because the new controller was a superset of the old one (it added the analog sticks) and because it came very early in the PS's life.
You can't just go ahead and replace the pack-in controller with something totally different. How would people play the old games with the new controller? You'd essentially fragment your customers. It would be like having two entirely different consoles. The only alternative is selling the new controller as a standalone item. That doesn't work either, because you won't sell a ton until there are lots of good games for the controller, and there won't be lots of good games for the controller unless you sell a ton. Look at the Cube Bongos, at the PS2 camera... Hell, look at the Power Glove.
How do you propose Sony would go about introducing a Wiimote clone for the PS3?
The only version I've ever seen is "Hamid." Wikipedia uses "Hamid" consistently. "Hamad" is either wrong or very, very rarely used - and the fact that Google only brings up 600 results for "hamad karzai" leads me to believe that it's wrong.
I'm European, and I just love to wait. In fact, I'll wait at least two or three more years until I'll get a PS3. If I ever get one. Because I'll wait until the price of your rich man's toy comes down to a more agreable level.
I'll get a Wii the day it comes out, though.
Wow. Idiotic, nonsensical attempt at a joke, and you didn't even get the guy's name right.
Double whammy.
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