I also believe that the $76.95 version comes with SSL (RSA, which is copywrited commercial software. That the downloaded version or the cheap cd's don't come with.. though there always is wa--z
Exactly my thoughts even if it does cost "consumers" 30 billion more, in a modern economy such cost is all relative. 30 billion more spread out among many different companies which are forced to spend more on "development", even if true. Would ultiumatly mean that many companies would have to higher more techs and spend much of that money in pay saleries. Any money spent by a large corp in pay is generally quickly spit back into the economy and helps increase our gross national product. But the money that goes into microsoft is mostly just straight profit and goes nowhere.
Well I think its perfectly fair for them to charge a reasonable fee of the isps to allow them to connect to the cable infestructure. But I always thought all utilites had to allow anyone to provide service over thier inferstructure with the new deregulation.
Accually if your implying that AOL might buy MediaOne and force any cable modems through MediaOne to be through AOL, I seriously doupt that would happen thought it may. Correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds highly illegial and monopolistic. Using a utility (cable is considered a utility now right? if not still same rules would apply I think) to force people to subscribe to AOL sounds highly illigal. I don't know the specifics behind the AT&T and TCI thing??? DID AT&T force TCI customers to use AT&T ISP?? what became of that?
RTFA (read the fing article) it says fair use is legal.. as you can use thier trademark if you are talking about that company and or doing a parody concerning that company. Really folks can you read the article before you post. This fine art seems to have been lost. There is no spoon
If anything good can come out of this, it will be that people think twice before putting irrelevant terms in the Meta Tags to get search engine hits.
While I agree the basic overall ruling is good. I personally have a problem with this specific case. Maby its just me but I think that "moviebuff" is way to much a real word, and the trademark should only apply to blatent misuse. And I seriously doupt West Coast Video used the term "moviebuff" in absolutly any relation to Brookfield Entertainment. I personally don't see much of a difference between the use of the space and without. and I personally seriously doupt anyone who is typing moviebuff into their search engine would want Brookfield Entertainments site specifically.
Yea my old boss had one of those, really spiffy. Never got a chance to play with it seriously though. The thing uses a radio transmiter in the pen which is activated by pressing on the pad. So you do have to buy special pens so conserve ink or something.. Though you may be able to change the ink yourself I didn't have a very good look at it. But it does come with 2 pens. anyways I set it up for him. And it seemed to use regular serial connection. From what I could tell it sent the info like a null modem would. So I'm proetty sure you could use it in linux, you would just need to figure out what format it sends the image in. It just sends the image of what you write. It lets the computer do the ocr, and I'm sure there are some good ocr programs out there for linux if you look. And its only like $300 bucks.. considering what you get not too shabby
Well if you have linux/unix or anything that supports perl you can writing this app. The code is above. Though some guy says it doesn't work right.... I personally wouldn't know. Anyways can someone port this to win95/dos or whatever for us loosers?
How about a combination of flexible and split keyboards that you could wear on the tops of your thighs? You couldn't use it while walking, but it'd be convienient when sitting or standing. It'd look super geeky, but no worse than this glove or other MIT borg devices.
WOW, thats a great idea.. Accually that sounds great. Would definatly need to come with a crotch interface of some sort.. HEHE jk. But serious, if I had the money, I'd make one, and cut you in of course. Personally I like my idea of a LCD fabric. So my t-shirt could be a monitor.. I could make it say anythign I wanted too.. even maby a screen saver.. whoa... trippy!!
From article: For example, he said, the fair use doctrine would allow someone to copy a song for legitimate purposes, such as parody, or to reverse-engineer a computer program in order to build a compatible system -- options precluded by some anti-piracy software measures.
Oh WOW! I heard about fair use law for parady, but didn't realize it also can be used for programs! Wow so we really can reverse engineer win95 to make a good WINE. HMM WOW.. accually now that I think about it I knew this all along, because I know that the guys who make console emulators are in the law, I just was never sure why. Well thats really good to know, now where can I buy that windows 2000 source again???
You're doing the math a bit wrong. Yes for each individual out of every hundred post, they are allowed to moderate 1 BUT!! you have you remember there are some 400+ moderators. This means that for every 100 post 400+ points are given out. This means that potentially %100 percent of articles can be moved up 4 points. Which is extremly excessive, but it works out right. The problem is oviously that the points are not being given out properly, and therefor I guess not. Unless it is accually only giving them to 400 people at a time, chosen randomly of the people who qualify.
Where do you see this??? I get a listing of the first 30 comments. Then it just simply stops. No next comments button, or anything. I really scared myself for a second there cause I thought one of my comments had been deleted. And I was on threshold -1 so I knew it had to be there. Then I on a whim changed my theshold to 1 and the comment was there. This was because it was now included in the first 30. Also I tried changing my threshold in my preferences page to 500 and it did absolutly nothing.
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Accually 5.2 came in many different versions. Some like the SSL version for example came with... well SSL (which comes with the RSA encryption software which ISN'T free)
next is that you are always connected unless the cable companies put in a switch to turn it on and off.. this can leave you open to crackers...
Oh no, so your saying I can't reach back behind my computer, and pull the line. So what is that? Restricted space, like up the phone pole? (sorry I know I'm being sarcastic)
Finance package: OK, this is the one weak area I can think of (in terms of free software) though I think there have been a couple of big-name enterprise business programs ported lately
Yea anyone know of any good financial packages.. I need to move my family over to linux, but I ain't getting my dad away from his quicken anytime soon. Is there anything that can read quicken files out there? or atleast operate as well???
Accually at the risk of sounding like a luser who can't help but spell loser looser. I personally think its not the coolest thing since the 300 baud modem. Its the coolest thing sense the transistor. No WAIT, its the coolest thing since the icebox (chataching)
The reason there's no crack for Divx is because no one in the major cracking groups has a Divx player. For that matter, no one has a Divx player =)
Accually no, I did see a Divx player once, I almost beat the shit outta my friend when I discovered it in her apartment, till I found out it was her roommates. (then I went to track him down.. he's been in hidding ever sense. -- this is all humor btw.. for the humorly deficent)
Anyhow, yes they do exist. And I saw Bigfoot once too.. HEE ROTFL
I seriously doupt it will be a format in while the game programmers have to deal with. Most likly some type of encryption scheme. This could easily be employed after the game has been made. I really only see two problems with this 1. If they make it secure enough so that it can't be copied easily, most likly they will have to create some sorta virtual box ontop of your operating system for running this game. This virtual box would in the same line as say a java virtual machine. In which while the program can run its virtual impossible to grab the code as its running and create a.com or.exe (for MS systems) out of the code on the fly. While this is not so much a bad idea in itself (though very complex) I would hate to play something like quakeIII on it as the system would CRAWL unless you had a 1266MHZ processor (hehe joke btw) or equivent. Because encoding something that complex on the fly would be rediculus. 2. ok well I don't have a second point but anyhow they still would have to get the agreement of the makers of the game to convert it to such a format which might be hard to find.
The reason I seriously doupt that the programmers themselves would be even allowed to make the game this way is because if you can make a program that runs inside the virtual machine your self, you could use that knowledge to make a program that while inside the virtual machine, makes a copy of the game.. (cause a game has to be able to access its own files without restriction doesn't it).. OHH good idea nice idea for an added cookie in the game (a copier) hehe or something
I seriously doupt they would ever make you pay for drivers. But the point is they want to leave the source closed, because they fear having it open will allow thier compitition to discover how to make compatible devices. I'm sure these closed source drivers could very well even be included in a distrubution.. just not the source of them.
Yea sure, You can do that with just about any program GPL'd or not. But thats not the point. Accually I am slighly confused about this? Is this one of the licenses that stopped people from using the code to produce products they sell unless they pay for the product, like Qt. Or is it just a support thingy?
Accually there was alot of random shootings, and innocent bystandards. While of course the media is going to say that all the kids where innocent bystandards, I do have to agree that the main targets probably treated these boys like shit. But, for example, there was one black girl who was shot simply for being black. While I don't contest to know the situation. Based upon what I've seen I seriously doupt that this girl had absolutly anything to do with these boys torment (based on her picture alone, she looked like an outcast herself). I agree that alot of the problem probably was the jocks. It's just that when I read your comment I pictured how the parents of this one girl would feel reading such an article, and I had to respond. (interesting side note the authorities didn't notify these parents of the childs death until a good 24 hours after this incident.. sad)
Puhleeze! If that were the case, I would've blown up with explosives all three high schools that I attended and shot anybody trying to escape with a high powered rifle. Give me a break. Now, I'm willing to concede that being an outcast from your peers tends to make a person develop socially in different ways, but I turned out all right and I was an 'outcast' in HS...
Admit it.. if you had many guns and weapons easily available, you would have atleast thought pretty heavily about this. And for every I'd say 1000 people who have the weapons, and allow themselves to stop and accually have to contimplate, if all the torture they recieved in their life, should end that way. I'd bet you would see more of this. But luckly the figure isn't quite that high, though I think I thought about it a few time in my HS days (I'm better now btw college life is wonderful, its a relief to find out that people in regular society don't act quite that bad). Anyways, you often see adults who snap and kill dozens of people. I personally find it hard to believe that children are expected to be more rational than these adults. And we don't see panels of "experts" lining up to say how the media affected these adults, because they would just be laughed at.
But if the deeper complexity is totally hidden from the viewer (GUI user), then they will never have the chance to learn more, because they won't even know it is there to be learned. "
Not quite. You are automatically assuming everyone wants to learn. I can show you a whole crowd who don't. Not because they're ignorant or clueless, but because they have more important things to do with life.
Accually, just to share my personal experience, which most of you could probably give a rats ass about. When I first started using computers it was on an msdos system (of which I spent a amazing amount of time in BASIC, hey I was 10 this was cool stuff for me), during this period I learned the basic ideas of command line. Which I later applied to learning unix on my local freenet, and on nethernet (is that system still up?). Anyways I havn't used either of those systems for years, in the command line side of them. And for the past 4 year have been pretty much strickly using Win 95/98. I have always been interested in the interworking of computers and really do like learning but have been sheilded from that side of it for way too long (mostly my own fault, but anyways) Beginning a few month ago, I've become reinfatuated with linux. I keep downloading it and installing it into another partition. Use it for a few weeks, and each in every time, go back to my Win 95. Not because I like Win 95, I'm absolutly discusted by it. But I can't for the likes of me really and truly figure out the command interface. Sure I know how to ls -al and ps and kill -9. But that doesn't help me set up and administer my linux box like I want to. Sure I can get X working, even got ppp working once. But I still feel that I can't take advantage of the emersive power linux gives me. Its sad to say I can get more power (as in being able to configure) out of my win 95 than I still can in linux. I know this is my own fault, but for some reason, I keep burying my head in shame, and scrambling back to win 95, usually after I get disgusted at the inability to get my sound right, or install icq (can anyone do this??? I heard there is a linux clone out there somewhere?) Anyways I partially blame this on win 95 dumbing down my knowledge, and ability to manipulate my computer the way I really want. I honestly I can't do without my icq/slashdot/email/minesweeper (cry yes its true) long enough to figure out how to get it all working in linux. ~testimony of a addict at his last thread
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I also believe that the $76.95 version comes with SSL (RSA, which is copywrited commercial software. That the downloaded version or the cheap cd's don't come with.. though there always is wa--z
Exactly my thoughts even if it does cost "consumers" 30 billion more, in a modern economy such cost is all relative. 30 billion more spread out among many different companies which are forced to spend more on "development", even if true. Would ultiumatly mean that many companies would have to higher more techs and spend much of that money in pay saleries. Any money spent by a large corp in pay is generally quickly spit back into the economy and helps increase our gross national product. But the money that goes into microsoft is mostly just straight profit and goes nowhere.
Well I think its perfectly fair for them to charge a reasonable fee of the isps to allow them to connect to the cable infestructure. But I always thought all utilites had to allow anyone to provide service over thier inferstructure with the new deregulation.
Accually if your implying that AOL might buy MediaOne and force any cable modems through MediaOne to be through AOL, I seriously doupt that would happen thought it may. Correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds highly illegial and monopolistic. Using a utility (cable is considered a utility now right? if not still same rules would apply I think) to force people to subscribe to AOL sounds highly illigal. I don't know the specifics behind the AT&T and TCI thing??? DID AT&T force TCI customers to use AT&T ISP?? what became of that?
RTFA (read the fing article)
it says fair use is legal.. as you can use thier trademark if you are talking about that company and or doing a parody concerning that company. Really folks can you read the article before you post. This fine art seems to have been lost.
There is no spoon
Well with a voodoo 2 there shouldn't be that much pull on your CPU.. I would suggest more ram.. whats your bus speed?
If anything good can come out of this, it will be that people think twice before putting irrelevant terms in the Meta Tags to get search engine hits.
While I agree the basic overall ruling is good. I personally have a problem with this specific case. Maby its just me but I think that "moviebuff" is way to much a real word, and the trademark should only apply to blatent misuse. And I seriously doupt West Coast Video used the term "moviebuff" in absolutly any relation to Brookfield Entertainment. I personally don't see much of a difference between the use of the space and without. and I personally seriously doupt anyone who is typing moviebuff into their search engine would want Brookfield Entertainments site specifically.
Yea my old boss had one of those, really spiffy. Never got a chance to play with it seriously though. The thing uses a radio transmiter in the pen which is activated by pressing on the pad. So you do have to buy special pens so conserve ink or something.. Though you may be able to change the ink yourself I didn't have a very good look at it. But it does come with 2 pens. anyways I set it up for him. And it seemed to use regular serial connection. From what I could tell it sent the info like a null modem would. So I'm proetty sure you could use it in linux, you would just need to figure out what format it sends the image in. It just sends the image of what you write. It lets the computer do the ocr, and I'm sure there are some good ocr programs out there for linux if you look. And its only like $300 bucks.. considering what you get not too shabby
Well if you have linux/unix or anything that supports perl you can writing this app. The code is above. Though some guy says it doesn't work right.... I personally wouldn't know. Anyways can someone port this to win95/dos or whatever for us loosers?
How about a combination of flexible and split keyboards that you could wear on the tops of your thighs? You couldn't use it while walking, but it'd be convienient when sitting or standing. It'd look super geeky, but no worse than this glove or other MIT borg devices.
WOW, thats a great idea.. Accually that sounds great. Would definatly need to come with a crotch interface of some sort.. HEHE jk. But serious, if I had the money, I'd make one, and cut you in of course. Personally I like my idea of a LCD fabric. So my t-shirt could be a monitor.. I could make it say anythign I wanted too.. even maby a screen saver.. whoa... trippy!!
HMM great idea.. I wonder if I could pimp myself off on ebay. Single eligable male geek 20 FSU student. Only $2000
From article:
For example, he said, the fair use doctrine would allow someone to copy a song for legitimate purposes, such as parody, or to reverse-engineer a computer program in order to build a compatible system -- options precluded by some anti-piracy software measures.
Oh WOW! I heard about fair use law for parady, but didn't realize it also can be used for programs! Wow so we really can reverse engineer win95 to make a good WINE. HMM WOW.. accually now that I think about it I knew this all along, because I know that the guys who make console emulators are in the law, I just was never sure why. Well thats really good to know, now where can I buy that windows 2000 source again???
But moderation points are granted at a rate of 1%
You're doing the math a bit wrong. Yes for each individual out of every hundred post, they are allowed to moderate 1 BUT!! you have you remember there are some 400+ moderators. This means that for every 100 post 400+ points are given out. This means that potentially %100 percent of articles can be moved up 4 points. Which is extremly excessive, but it works out right. The problem is oviously that the points are not being given out properly, and therefor I guess not. Unless it is accually only giving them to 400 people at a time, chosen randomly of the people who qualify.
Where do you see this??? I get a listing of the first 30 comments. Then it just simply stops. No next comments button, or anything. I really scared myself for a second there cause I thought one of my comments had been deleted. And I was on threshold -1 so I knew it had to be there. Then I on a whim changed my theshold to 1 and the comment was there. This was because it was now included in the first 30. Also I tried changing my threshold in my preferences page to 500 and it did absolutly nothing.
Accually 5.2 came in many different versions. Some like the SSL version for example came with... well SSL (which comes with the RSA encryption software which ISN'T free)
next is that you are always connected unless the cable companies put in a switch to turn it on and off.. this can leave you open to crackers...
Oh no, so your saying I can't reach back behind my computer, and pull the line. So what is that? Restricted space, like up the phone pole?
(sorry I know I'm being sarcastic)
Finance package: OK, this is the one weak area I can think of (in terms of free software) though I think there have been a couple of big-name enterprise business programs ported lately
Yea anyone know of any good financial packages.. I need to move my family over to linux, but I ain't getting my dad away from his quicken anytime soon. Is there anything that can read quicken files out there? or atleast operate as well???
Accually at the risk of sounding like a luser who can't help but spell loser looser.
I personally think its not the coolest thing since the 300 baud modem. Its the coolest thing sense the transistor. No WAIT, its the coolest thing since the icebox (chataching)
The reason there's no crack for Divx is because no one in the major cracking groups has a Divx player.
For that matter, no one has a Divx player =)
Accually no, I did see a Divx player once, I almost beat the shit outta my friend when I discovered it in her apartment, till I found out it was her roommates. (then I went to track him down.. he's been in hidding ever sense. -- this is all humor btw.. for the humorly deficent)
Anyhow, yes they do exist. And I saw Bigfoot once too.. HEE ROTFL
I seriously doupt it will be a format in while the game programmers have to deal with. Most likly some type of encryption scheme. This could easily be employed after the game has been made. I really only see two problems with this .com or .exe (for MS systems) out of the code on the fly. While this is not so much a bad idea in itself (though very complex) I would hate to play something like quakeIII on it as the system would CRAWL unless you had a 1266MHZ processor (hehe joke btw) or equivent. Because encoding something that complex on the fly would be rediculus.
1. If they make it secure enough so that it can't be copied easily, most likly they will have to create some sorta virtual box ontop of your operating system for running this game. This virtual box would in the same line as say a java virtual machine. In which while the program can run its virtual impossible to grab the code as its running and create a
2. ok well I don't have a second point but anyhow they still would have to get the agreement of the makers of the game to convert it to such a format which might be hard to find.
The reason I seriously doupt that the programmers themselves would be even allowed to make the game this way is because if you can make a program that runs inside the virtual machine your self, you could use that knowledge to make a program that while inside the virtual machine, makes a copy of the game.. (cause a game has to be able to access its own files without restriction doesn't it).. OHH good idea nice idea for an added cookie in the game (a copier) hehe or something
I seriously doupt they would ever make you pay for drivers. But the point is they want to leave the source closed, because they fear having it open will allow thier compitition to discover how to make compatible devices. I'm sure these closed source drivers could very well even be included in a distrubution.. just not the source of them.
Yea sure, You can do that with just about any program GPL'd or not. But thats not the point. Accually I am slighly confused about this? Is this one of the licenses that stopped people from using the code to produce products they sell unless they pay for the product, like Qt. Or is it just a support thingy?
Accually there was alot of random shootings, and innocent bystandards. While of course the media is going to say that all the kids where innocent bystandards, I do have to agree that the main targets probably treated these boys like shit. But, for example, there was one black girl who was shot simply for being black. While I don't contest to know the situation. Based upon what I've seen I seriously doupt that this girl had absolutly anything to do with these boys torment (based on her picture alone, she looked like an outcast herself). I agree that alot of the problem probably was the jocks. It's just that when I read your comment I pictured how the parents of this one girl would feel reading such an article, and I had to respond. (interesting side note the authorities didn't notify these parents of the childs death until a good 24 hours after this incident.. sad)
Puhleeze! If that were the case, I would've blown up with explosives all three high schools that I attended and shot anybody trying to escape with a high powered rifle. Give me a break. Now, I'm willing to concede that being an outcast from your peers tends to make a person develop socially in different ways, but I turned out all right and I was an 'outcast' in HS...
Admit it.. if you had many guns and weapons easily available, you would have atleast thought pretty heavily about this. And for every I'd say 1000 people who have the weapons, and allow themselves to stop and accually have to contimplate, if all the torture they recieved in their life, should end that way. I'd bet you would see more of this. But luckly the figure isn't quite that high, though I think I thought about it a few time in my HS days (I'm better now btw college life is wonderful, its a relief to find out that people in regular society don't act quite that bad). Anyways, you often see adults who snap and kill dozens of people. I personally find it hard to believe that children are expected to be more rational than these adults. And we don't see panels of "experts" lining up to say how the media affected these adults, because they would just be laughed at.
But if the deeper complexity is totally hidden from the viewer (GUI user), then they will never have the chance to learn more, because they won't even know it is there to be learned. "
Not quite.
You are automatically assuming everyone wants to learn. I can show you a whole crowd who don't.
Not because they're ignorant or clueless, but because they have more important things to do with life.
Accually, just to share my personal experience, which most of you could probably give a rats ass about. When I first started using computers it was on an msdos system (of which I spent a amazing amount of time in BASIC, hey I was 10 this was cool stuff for me), during this period I learned the basic ideas of command line. Which I later applied to learning unix on my local freenet, and on nethernet (is that system still up?). Anyways I havn't used either of those systems for years, in the command line side of them. And for the past 4 year have been pretty much strickly using Win 95/98. I have always been interested in the interworking of computers and really do like learning but have been sheilded from that side of it for way too long (mostly my own fault, but anyways) Beginning a few month ago, I've become reinfatuated with linux. I keep downloading it and installing it into another partition. Use it for a few weeks, and each in every time, go back to my Win 95. Not because I like Win 95, I'm absolutly discusted by it. But I can't for the likes of me really and truly figure out the command interface. Sure I know how to ls -al and ps and kill -9. But that doesn't help me set up and administer my linux box like I want to. Sure I can get X working, even got ppp working once. But I still feel that I can't take advantage of the emersive power linux gives me. Its sad to say I can get more power (as in being able to configure) out of my win 95 than I still can in linux. I know this is my own fault, but for some reason, I keep burying my head in shame, and scrambling back to win 95, usually after I get disgusted at the inability to get my sound right, or install icq (can anyone do this??? I heard there is a linux clone out there somewhere?)
Anyways I partially blame this on win 95 dumbing down my knowledge, and ability to manipulate my computer the way I really want. I honestly I can't do without my icq/slashdot/email/minesweeper (cry yes its true) long enough to figure out how to get it all working in linux.
~testimony of a addict at his last thread