> It's 256K or 384K only during the night and early day. Between 14:00 and 23:00, it's more like 4K -- with pings of 4K ms, too.
I have Speakeasy's 6M/768k plan, and it's always 6M/768. It's never been down, and I've never seen any speeds lower than that (except when I'm connecting to a server that can't send data that fast:P).
Their tech support is pretty good, too. My plan has 8 IPs, but I couldn't activate them on the web form. I sent them an e-mail at 11:00PM on a Friday night (yes, yes, setting up routers is what I do for fun on Friday night...), and in 15 minutes they were active and I had a message in my mailbox saying so.
Anyway, that obviously isn't business level support, but it's good enough for me. I guess other people are paying like $30/mo for DSL and I pay $115, but I don't watch TV or have to pay for utilities (directly), so it's a good deal for me. Highly recommended.
just export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" and LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and everything should work. This might be a Linux-ism though; you have to make sure that your system as the en_US.UTF-8 locale around somewhere. (Debian uses locale.gen; but I don't know about *BSD.)
The only reason that works is because the barewords a,b, and c evaluate to zero. If you wanted a , b, and c to be strings, that wouldn't work.
Please learn perl before posting.
[~] 0 (jon@foo) $ perl -Mstrict -e '$x[a][b][c] = "foo"; print $x[a][b][c];' Global symbol "@x" requires explicit package name at -e line 1. Global symbol "@x" requires explicit package name at -e line 1. Bareword "a" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1. Bareword "b" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1. Bareword "c" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1. Bareword "a" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1. Bareword "b" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1. Bareword "c" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1. Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
> that seems quite ironic since Ruby is from Japan
The story goes that the Japanese were upset about the whole Unicode thing. They had their own charsets that had all the Japanese characters necessary... so why bother with all these other languages?
There was also the "Han Unification" (as part of the Unicode "transition") where all CJK characters that were the same were mapped to the same code points. Again, this upset the Japanese for some reason; I'm not sure about the details. Apparently some language experts disagree about which characters are and aren't the same; dictionaries have lost details over the years and it's hard to say what's right and what's wrong.
OTOH, I learned most of this in the context of Ruby, so maybe it's just the Ruby guy that's upset about all of this. I read debian-users-jp, and there are certainly a lot of questions about setting up a proper UTF-8 environment. So maybe one loud person, that speaks English, is not fairly representing the entire country, while everyone else is happy to embrace UTF-8. (Even I use en_US.UTF-8 exclusively, and it makes for a nice computing experience; or at least a music library that's multi-lingual:)
WTF perl are you using? You can't use strings as array elements.
[~] 0 (jon@foo) $ perl -e "$x['a']['b']['c'] = 'foo'; print $x['a']['b']['c'];" syntax error at -e line 1, near "][" syntax error at -e line 1, near "][" Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
Either way, you're still "using references". I don't know why you would want to avoid them, though, they're an excellent feature and they're very easy to use.
True, but do you ever get anything back? (And what if you have a really good idea for a feature; Oracle makes millions, and you get the privilege of buying it back from them. Great.)
Japanese has an fi- sound. The word "Fire" is pronounced as "Faiyah" (approximately) in "Say Yeah! Motto Miracle Night" by Morning Musume. So download that if you want to hear how it's pronounced.:)
Not buying this argument. When you use open source, you are accountable. you can pay someone to implement features. If you don't like the work they do, you can find someone else.
Contrast this to, say, Oracle, where if you want a new feature you are SOL and it ends there. I'm sure Oracle would like to be accountable, but, frankly, you don't matter.
> The millions of $400-$500/year customers need to have their interests respected, and an environment where you have to be big enough to pay a programmer to implement the feature leaves us all out.
When you buy software, you're obviously paying the programmer. There's just 15 levels of managers that you're also paying. If enough "$400-$500/year" customers get together, they can pay someone to add whatever feature they want to an open source program. Some features can probably even be implemented for $500, if it's only a few hours of work.
Good show, worth watching, but 2-ch (the forum that the show is based on) isn't like slashdot. 2-ch is like yahoo groups... it's non-technical and is 40% ASCII (erm EUC_JP) art, 50% slang, and 10% "insight". Slashdot is 50% flamebait and 50% insight, generally. (Slashdot.jp is even better. The only flamebait I've ever seen is one I posted:) Damn Americans muck everything up...:)
But anyway, here's the original 2-ch thread that inspired Densha Otoko:
> Nobody wants a cell phone with a 2 pound battery that only runs for 1 day.
Somebody wants one, probably. A friend of mine has a phone that's three pounds and runs for MAYBE 1/2 day:) So he would probably want a 2 pounder with a 1 day battery life:)
> A real macro system and overloading would probably be nice for kernel dev.s everywhere.
Like LISP? That's what they used to use, but C was chosen for UNIX, and UNIX caught on big time, so C is the language now. I think it's about time to write an OS (kernel + tools) in LISP, so we can return to the good-old-days of Lisp machines.
> they are often "1" which renders them collapsed and out of sight by the end of the day.
I read at 1, so that's not so much of an issue. What is an issue is the down-modding (to -1) of things that you disagree with. I've recently become rather tired of Apple (and their fanboys), so I make an effort to point out facts that make me dislike them. ("Where did strace go?", , "why ship a broken ld that forces my binaries to be Universal!?", etc.) This, 100% of the time, results in a downmod. That's the problem with the mod system -- when a bunch of ignorant fanbois get mod points, they misuse them.
Fortunately, it's only Apple-related topics where this shows up. Flaming M$ used to be a guarenteed mod-up, but that's not the case anymore. For example, someone posted to slashdot.jp a few days asking why the new Windows cluster edition was versioned 2003. I replied saying, "That's the number of security holes, not the year." That was an instant -1 flamebait, as it should have been:)
So I haven't lost faith in the moderation system totally, but it could definitely be better. Let me moderate all the posts and it would be perfect;)
This post is so misguided I don't know where to start.
It is super easy to compromise a network. Try using ettercap sometime. It will ARP poison the switch, so that your switch port acts as an intermediary for all traffic on the subnet. Once you have that, you can also use ettercap to hijack SSL sessions. I've done this before, and it works great. The user gets the message saying "so and so.com sent you an invalid certificate? pretend that this is meaningless and blissfully send your SSN and passwords to whoever is listening?" They click yes, the padlock closes, and you steal all their data. Super easy.
It also works with SSH and pretty much anything else. If you don't verify fingerprints of hosts you're connecting to, you might be connecting to someone trying to steal your password!
The other advantage of Jabber is that you can setup your server to be able to interact with other jabber servers on the Internet. So for example, you@yourcorp.com can send a jabber message to your.friend@gmail.com, without having to log into the gtalk server (actually Google might be blocking this, but it would definitely work to foo@jabber.org).
I wish I could get more of my friends over to Jabber. I can have the power of running my own server with the flexibility of being to talk to anyone on the Internet. Just like e-mail, but with instant messaging.
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> It's 256K or 384K only during the night and early day. Between 14:00 and 23:00, it's more like 4K -- with pings of 4K ms, too.
:P).
I have Speakeasy's 6M/768k plan, and it's always 6M/768. It's never been down, and I've never seen any speeds lower than that (except when I'm connecting to a server that can't send data that fast
Their tech support is pretty good, too. My plan has 8 IPs, but I couldn't activate them on the web form. I sent them an e-mail at 11:00PM on a Friday night (yes, yes, setting up routers is what I do for fun on Friday night...), and in 15 minutes they were active and I had a message in my mailbox saying so.
Anyway, that obviously isn't business level support, but it's good enough for me. I guess other people are paying like $30/mo for DSL and I pay $115, but I don't watch TV or have to pay for utilities (directly), so it's a good deal for me. Highly recommended.
just export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" and LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and everything should work. This might be a Linux-ism though; you have to make sure that your system as the en_US.UTF-8 locale around somewhere. (Debian uses locale.gen; but I don't know about *BSD.)
The only reason that works is because the barewords a,b, and c evaluate to zero. If you wanted a , b, and c to be strings, that wouldn't work.
Please learn perl before posting.
[~] 0 (jon@foo)
$ perl -Mstrict -e '$x[a][b][c] = "foo"; print $x[a][b][c];'
Global symbol "@x" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
Global symbol "@x" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
Bareword "a" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1.
Bareword "b" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1.
Bareword "c" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1.
Bareword "a" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1.
Bareword "b" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1.
Bareword "c" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1.
Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
> that seems quite ironic since Ruby is from Japan
:)
The story goes that the Japanese were upset about the whole Unicode thing. They had their own charsets that had all the Japanese characters necessary... so why bother with all these other languages?
There was also the "Han Unification" (as part of the Unicode "transition") where all CJK characters that were the same were mapped to the same code points. Again, this upset the Japanese for some reason; I'm not sure about the details. Apparently some language experts disagree about which characters are and aren't the same; dictionaries have lost details over the years and it's hard to say what's right and what's wrong.
OTOH, I learned most of this in the context of Ruby, so maybe it's just the Ruby guy that's upset about all of this. I read debian-users-jp, and there are certainly a lot of questions about setting up a proper UTF-8 environment. So maybe one loud person, that speaks English, is not fairly representing the entire country, while everyone else is happy to embrace UTF-8. (Even I use en_US.UTF-8 exclusively, and it makes for a nice computing experience; or at least a music library that's multi-lingual
Perl might be suitable for embedded systems, if you use microperl.
> I want to see a valid technological reason why you would be required to develop a Perl app without using references.
:)
How about, "I'm too stupid to read the manual."
WTF perl are you using? You can't use strings as array elements.
[~] 0 (jon@foo)
$ perl -e "$x['a']['b']['c'] = 'foo'; print $x['a']['b']['c'];"
syntax error at -e line 1, near "]["
syntax error at -e line 1, near "]["
Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
The correct way to do this is:
[~] 0 (jon@foo)
$ perl -e '$x->{a}->{b}->{c} = qq{foo\n}; print $x->{a}->{b}->{c};'
foo
If you were only dealing with numbers, then this would work:
$ perl -e '$x[1][2][3] = qq{foo\n}; print $x[1][2][3];'
foo
Either way, you're still "using references". I don't know why you would want to avoid them, though, they're an excellent feature and they're very easy to use.
Have you ever administered an OS X server? It's not like any UNIX I've ever seen. Including FreeBSD. (launchd, netinfo, all that stuff. PITA.)
OS X is not a UNIX-like OS. It's a NEXT-like OS. Sorry, not UNIX...
> ways to put in feature requests
True, but do you ever get anything back? (And what if you have a really good idea for a feature; Oracle makes millions, and you get the privilege of buying it back from them. Great.)
> So fucking what?
People that do know the difference will think that you're not as smart as them. That's "fucking" what.
If you don't care, fine. But realize that "I'm right, so fuck you" only works in a society of one.
Japanese has an fi- sound. The word "Fire" is pronounced as "Faiyah" (approximately) in "Say Yeah! Motto Miracle Night" by Morning Musume. So download that if you want to hear how it's pronounced. :)
The rest is correct though.
You might want to check your sources. This source, dated today, paints a different picture.
Sweedish Citizen Held in Guantanamo!
Not buying this argument. When you use open source, you are accountable. you can pay someone to implement features. If you don't like the work they do, you can find someone else.
Contrast this to, say, Oracle, where if you want a new feature you are SOL and it ends there. I'm sure Oracle would like to be accountable, but, frankly, you don't matter.
> The millions of $400-$500/year customers need to have their interests respected, and an environment where you have to be big enough to pay a programmer to implement the feature leaves us all out.
When you buy software, you're obviously paying the programmer. There's just 15 levels of managers that you're also paying. If enough "$400-$500/year" customers get together, they can pay someone to add whatever feature they want to an open source program. Some features can probably even be implemented for $500, if it's only a few hours of work.
Daley.
I block Google's text ads. They're just as irritating as graphical ads. They add nothing to the page, only take away. Therefore, block.
If I want to buy something, I'll search for it on Froogle.
Here's an OS written in C++ that boots by itself and is generally a functional OS:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ekp/
Complete? No, but it's written in a high-level language, and it doesn't need a "host OS" to boot.
Good show, worth watching, but 2-ch (the forum that the show is based on) isn't like slashdot. 2-ch is like yahoo groups... it's non-technical and is 40% ASCII (erm EUC_JP) art, 50% slang, and 10% "insight". Slashdot is 50% flamebait and 50% insight, generally. (Slashdot.jp is even better. The only flamebait I've ever seen is one I posted :) Damn Americans muck everything up... :)
/ trainman.html
But anyway, here's the original 2-ch thread that inspired Densha Otoko:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Milkyway-Aquarius/7075
(The real thread got taken down when it got popular. There was a book, manga, TV show, movie, etc... so I guess the traffic was too high.)
> Nobody wants a cell phone with a 2 pound battery that only runs for 1 day.
:) So he would probably want a 2 pounder with a 1 day battery life :)
Somebody wants one, probably. A friend of mine has a phone that's three pounds and runs for MAYBE 1/2 day
> A real macro system and overloading would probably be nice for kernel dev.s everywhere.
Like LISP? That's what they used to use, but C was chosen for UNIX, and UNIX caught on big time, so C is the language now. I think it's about time to write an OS (kernel + tools) in LISP, so we can return to the good-old-days of Lisp machines.
> they are often "1" which renders them collapsed and out of sight by the end of the day.
:)
;)
I read at 1, so that's not so much of an issue. What is an issue is the down-modding (to -1) of things that you disagree with. I've recently become rather tired of Apple (and their fanboys), so I make an effort to point out facts that make me dislike them. ("Where did strace go?", , "why ship a broken ld that forces my binaries to be Universal!?", etc.) This, 100% of the time, results in a downmod. That's the problem with the mod system -- when a bunch of ignorant fanbois get mod points, they misuse them.
Fortunately, it's only Apple-related topics where this shows up. Flaming M$ used to be a guarenteed mod-up, but that's not the case anymore. For example, someone posted to slashdot.jp a few days asking why the new Windows cluster edition was versioned 2003. I replied saying, "That's the number of security holes, not the year." That was an instant -1 flamebait, as it should have been
So I haven't lost faith in the moderation system totally, but it could definitely be better. Let me moderate all the posts and it would be perfect
This post is so misguided I don't know where to start.
It is super easy to compromise a network. Try using ettercap sometime. It will ARP poison the switch, so that your switch port acts as an intermediary for all traffic on the subnet. Once you have that, you can also use ettercap to hijack SSL sessions. I've done this before, and it works great. The user gets the message saying "so and so.com sent you an invalid certificate? pretend that this is meaningless and blissfully send your SSN and passwords to whoever is listening?" They click yes, the padlock closes, and you steal all their data. Super easy.
It also works with SSH and pretty much anything else. If you don't verify fingerprints of hosts you're connecting to, you might be connecting to someone trying to steal your password!
> The fact that the command "man woman" still doesn't work
:)
If you use emacs you can M-x woman man and read the man manpage in woman.
The other advantage of Jabber is that you can setup your server to be able to interact with other jabber servers on the Internet. So for example, you@yourcorp.com can send a jabber message to your.friend@gmail.com, without having to log into the gtalk server (actually Google might be blocking this, but it would definitely work to foo@jabber.org).
I wish I could get more of my friends over to Jabber. I can have the power of running my own server with the flexibility of being to talk to anyone on the Internet. Just like e-mail, but with instant messaging.
Slightly outdated, but still enjoyable to read:
http://www.dansdata.com/homepc.htm