> "CHANGE YOUR ADMIN PASSWORD NOW!" or "I AM NOT SECURE!"
I always change it to "OUT OF WATER".
I did this to every printer in my high school a few years ago, and it was great. People were speculating as to where the water should go; HP support had no idea what was wrong; etc. After that, some firewall rules were changed and it never happened again:)
You're confusing two separate cases. The twinkies-cure-cancer people are soliciting money in exchange for a product that doesn't exist. When you get money from a Congressperson to blog about them, that's different. The Congressperson bought your advertising product. If you took the money and didn't blog about him, then you'd be doing the same thing that the twinkies people are doing.
> If you are getting paid to stump for a candidate and don't disclose that, you are deceiving your audience.
That's the thing about free speech. If you define "free but you can't deceive", then it's not free anymore. And I don't like that slippery slope, so I'm willing to live with being deceived. In the end it's my fault for believing them, not their fault for writing junk. (Example: TimeCube.)
You can't blame Lenovo for this. Intel had major problems with making VT work early on, and there are a lot of steppings where it's just plain broken. These companies decided to turn it off for everyone because they don't want to handle all the users complaining that Lenovo sucks because VT is broken. Blame Intel for this one.
That's wrong. Traditionally Democrats want Big Government to take away your rights, while the Republicans want to keep the government as small as possible. These days, though, that seems not to be the case -- the Republicans want to fuck over the people, legislate morality, expand the military, and kill all non-Christians; where the Democrats want to fuck over the people, raise taxes, and ban guns.
> Have any statistics to back up that assertion, and how it applies to the topic under discussion?
Two possibilities here:
1) You're not from Earth. 2) You are less than the age of 3.
EVERYONE knows that people in general believe marketing over actual facts. People buy what the TV (etc.) tells them to. Plenty of studies on this, but it's basically common knowledge among people smart enough to read slashdot.
I think the idea of ING Direct's system is to prevent your computer from remembering your password for you (and letting anyone that walks by log in later). That's the only thing I think it's useful for. Incidentally, their login system does work from browsers like lynx and w3m, so kudos to ING for that.
> The reason Linux has made so little impact in the desktop market is largely because a fully open system tends to devolve into anarchy.
Doubtful. Windows devolves into anarchy, with spware installing itself into core OS DLLs, messing up the registry, etc. This hasn't slowed the adoption of Windows.
The reason Windows is successful is vendor lockin. Everybody runs Windows, so producing more software that requries it seems like a good idea -- perpetuating the cycle. The reason OS X is successful is because Apple spends billions of dollars marketing it. When all you see are ads that tell you buying a MacBook will make you cool, of course that's what you're going to buy.
Anyway, although Linux has "failed" to become the one-and-only-OS-in-existence it's still pretty useful. Most people I know don't use anything else, which is hardly something I can consider as a failure. (Also, Linux is a process, not a product. That makes it hard to compare to the two products above.)
> with 99% of services not running/installed like printer/ samba / sshd etc.
Services don't slow down the machine, though. They take some time to load, but then they sit in memory (or get swapped out) until they're used. If they're never used, they just sit on the disk with a few k of memory used for their state (the actual code lives in the application file, to be read in when necessary).
The things that slow OS X down aren't trivial to remove. Apple made the GUI responsive by requiring a 3D accelerator card. Does the iPhone have one of those?
I think as the iPhone saga unfolds, we'll see that iPhone/OSX is not the same OS X that you have on your real computer. It's probably and off-the-shelf embedded system with some OS X apis and pixmaps layered on top. People will think it's safari as long as the look-and-feel is the same. People will think the widgets are dashboard widgets if they use the same pixmaps (but write them in C instead of HTML+Javascript for speed). All speculation of course.
> Toyota learned this marketing move on their hybrid cars, and redesigned their "hybrid" badges and logos to be much larger.
The Hummer doesn't have any labelling and it is equally popular. A hybrid car doesn't look any different from a regular car (except its engine), so you need to stick something on there to advertise your product. The Hummer and the OLPC look very different from their competitors, so no label is required.
>What complete and utter bullshit. >> -DRM > I'm not going to rehash the extensive comments from this story earlier today.
So what if their DRM isn't "very strong". I can't play my legally purcahsed music under Linux. Telling the judge that it's OK for you to rape someone because you were flaccid isn't going to hold up. If Apple doesn't want to do DRM, they shouldn't. They do do it, so they're evil. End of story.
>> -Proprietary hardware > Such as? *crickets* Surely the fact that on installing Windows on a shiny Intel Mac, all of > the drivers outside of the keyboard backlight are from other well-known vendors like > Atheros, Intel, ATI, etc, should disprove THAT turd.
Those three manufacturers are some of the most widely known for proprietary drivers (and buggy hardware that their drivers don't even work around very well).
>> -Proprietary software
> And who isn't, other than Linux and BSD? They are the exceptions, not the rule. Windows, AIX, > Solaris, BeOS, PalmOS, etc - you name it, it's most likely proprietary. At least Apple makes > a good chunk of its base open, and has contributed other useful projects like WebKit and > launchd.
WebKit was Open Source already. launchd is useless. Apple consistently avoids giving back to the community. With a lot of crying they will release some useless code just to get everyone to shut up.
They do take a lot though, and that's what they call a commitment to open source. I guess that's fine to market it that way (Samba is better than anything Apple could come up with), but it is misleading. Without Apple, all of the open source projects that OS X uses would still be doing fine. Apple needs them, not the other way around.
>> -Closed protocols > Such as? Hell, even protocols they've pushed (like Rendezvous/Bonjour/ZeroConf) are standardized.
Oh yeah, it's really easy to buy music from iTunes with my standard-issue web browser. It's also very easy to build custom apps for the iPod, because Apple publishes an SDK! Oh wait, that's completely false.
>> -selected compatibility > Again, who doesn't? I'm not even sure what you mean, unless you're upset you can't play a Divx on an iPod Video or something...
iRiver manages to do this, and their products are less expensive.
>> It's CEO is also know for pulling tantrums. > Its CEO is known for having a VERY sharp idea of what he wants, and yes, being very difficult and arbitrary to get it sometimes. Those are not tantrums. Throwing a chair, that's a tamtrum.
Yes, Microsoft and Apple are both led by small children. You're allowed to hate MS and Apple, ya know.
> So, what, that's all 10 of you? Sounds like a winning product to me.
Except the product already exists, and I'm going to buy one soon. So what if there are only 10 users? That's somebody else's problem. I want what I want -- I don't care what business model it sustains. That's not for me to worry about because I don't work for the company.
Who cares if the product I choose wins, anyway? What does that matter?
> So when I'm thoroughly enjoying talking on my iPhone (or whatever the fuck they rename it due to Cisco's blatant shitheadedness)
You are better than me. The fact that you plan to buy a "cool product" means that I should just kill myself now. Oh wait.
Summary: different people like different things. Why do you care?
Development samples are available for anyone. The GP doesn't work for Troll; he shelled out his own cash to get a greenphone. That entitles him to "bad mouth" it all he wants. However, it's no secret that the preproduction samples are not for daily use!
Those people can buy the iPhone. As Apple itself said... you don't have to have 100% of the market to make money. If they sell 1000 Greenphones, TrollTech ends up doing pretty well. Buy your status symbol -- some of us don't care what other people think about our phones. (Gasp!)
To each his own. I want a hackable phone in the Greenphone form factor, I think it looks nice, so that's what I'm going to get as soon as it's feasible. I doubt it will be popular in the US market, but who cares? If it works for me, that's all that matters (to me).
You must be using it wrong, because it runs great on my 533MHz box. The version of KDE4 I've tested is even snappier.
Anyway, OS X isn't exactly a speed demon either. Which is why I think Jobs is lying about the iPhone using it -- for a device that can't run 3rd party software, using OS X is a real waste of CPU and money.
How does "slashdot" have a position? You post to slashdot and obviously don't share the beliefs that you accuse "slashdot" of having. I'm not sure you understand the concept of a message board. Just because that most everyone hates your flamebait doesn't mean that "slashdot" hates it.
> companies like Yahoo and Google would not be using it
Companies like Yahoo and Google use it for non-critical applications because they can easily hire as many minimum wage code monkeys as they need. When you're a big company, that hiring liquidity can often outweigh the fact that developing code is probably more expensive in PHP than sane languages. There's a reason why Google uses C++, Python, and Java for most things.
> Perl (by writing line noise code that you can't understand a week later)
What? PHP has even worse syntax. Everything requires parentheses @print(foo(@$bar[$this->baz()->something(array(1,2 ))->else()])). At that point, you might as well be using LISP. Not to mention that 90% of PHP's syntax is completely useless and has no reason for existing. (Why bother with dollar-signs in front of $variables when EVERYTHING IS THE SAME TYPE? Why bother with an OO model that uses interfaces when THERE IS NO TYPING IN THE LANGUAGE. etc.)
Anyway, most people that actually know how to program find Perl much more readable. If you're having trouble, maybe you should adjust the focus of your monitor.
I trust PHP security experts about as far as I can throw them. This guy is the author of a PHP security book and I found many many severe security problems in his published code. To parse XML, for example, he cleverly injected some PHP into the string containing the XML fetched from an untrusted server, and then eval()d the whole mess. Needless to say, that's not a very secure way to parse XML!
If this is how published security experts write PHP, I pray to god that I never have to look at any entry-level PHP.
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> "CHANGE YOUR ADMIN PASSWORD NOW!" or "I AM NOT SECURE!"
:)
I always change it to "OUT OF WATER".
I did this to every printer in my high school a few years ago, and it was great. People were speculating as to where the water should go; HP support had no idea what was wrong; etc. After that, some firewall rules were changed and it never happened again
You're confusing two separate cases. The twinkies-cure-cancer people are soliciting money in exchange for a product that doesn't exist. When you get money from a Congressperson to blog about them, that's different. The Congressperson bought your advertising product. If you took the money and didn't blog about him, then you'd be doing the same thing that the twinkies people are doing.
> If you are getting paid to stump for a candidate and don't disclose that, you are deceiving your audience.
That's the thing about free speech. If you define "free but you can't deceive", then it's not free anymore. And I don't like that slippery slope, so I'm willing to live with being deceived. In the end it's my fault for believing them, not their fault for writing junk. (Example: TimeCube.)
You can't blame Lenovo for this. Intel had major problems with making VT work early on, and there are a lot of steppings where it's just plain broken. These companies decided to turn it off for everyone because they don't want to handle all the users complaining that Lenovo sucks because VT is broken. Blame Intel for this one.
That's wrong. Traditionally Democrats want Big Government to take away your rights, while the Republicans want to keep the government as small as possible. These days, though, that seems not to be the case -- the Republicans want to fuck over the people, legislate morality, expand the military, and kill all non-Christians; where the Democrats want to fuck over the people, raise taxes, and ban guns.
Neither side is looking good.
Better than paying 200% VAT on it. All countries suck, it's not just the US.
> Have any statistics to back up that assertion, and how it applies to the topic under discussion?
Two possibilities here:
1) You're not from Earth.
2) You are less than the age of 3.
EVERYONE knows that people in general believe marketing over actual facts. People buy what the TV (etc.) tells them to. Plenty of studies on this, but it's basically common knowledge among people smart enough to read slashdot.
I think the idea of ING Direct's system is to prevent your computer from remembering your password for you (and letting anyone that walks by log in later). That's the only thing I think it's useful for. Incidentally, their login system does work from browsers like lynx and w3m, so kudos to ING for that.
> The reason Linux has made so little impact in the desktop market is largely because a fully open system tends to devolve into anarchy.
Doubtful. Windows devolves into anarchy, with spware installing itself into core OS DLLs, messing up the registry, etc. This hasn't slowed the adoption of Windows.
The reason Windows is successful is vendor lockin. Everybody runs Windows, so producing more software that requries it seems like a good idea -- perpetuating the cycle. The reason OS X is successful is because Apple spends billions of dollars marketing it. When all you see are ads that tell you buying a MacBook will make you cool, of course that's what you're going to buy.
Anyway, although Linux has "failed" to become the one-and-only-OS-in-existence it's still pretty useful. Most people I know don't use anything else, which is hardly something I can consider as a failure. (Also, Linux is a process, not a product. That makes it hard to compare to the two products above.)
> with 99% of services not running/installed like printer/ samba / sshd etc.
Services don't slow down the machine, though. They take some time to load, but then they sit in memory (or get swapped out) until they're used. If they're never used, they just sit on the disk with a few k of memory used for their state (the actual code lives in the application file, to be read in when necessary).
The things that slow OS X down aren't trivial to remove. Apple made the GUI responsive by requiring a 3D accelerator card. Does the iPhone have one of those?
I think as the iPhone saga unfolds, we'll see that iPhone/OSX is not the same OS X that you have on your real computer. It's probably and off-the-shelf embedded system with some OS X apis and pixmaps layered on top. People will think it's safari as long as the look-and-feel is the same. People will think the widgets are dashboard widgets if they use the same pixmaps (but write them in C instead of HTML+Javascript for speed). All speculation of course.
> Toyota learned this marketing move on their hybrid cars, and redesigned their "hybrid" badges and logos to be much larger.
The Hummer doesn't have any labelling and it is equally popular. A hybrid car doesn't look any different from a regular car (except its engine), so you need to stick something on there to advertise your product. The Hummer and the OLPC look very different from their competitors, so no label is required.
> What use is circumvention software that can break only a few months of releases?
Uploading the release to Usenet. And ince it's up on Usenet in full quality, what's the point of having DRM anyway?
>What complete and utter bullshit.
>> -DRM
> I'm not going to rehash the extensive comments from this story earlier today.
So what if their DRM isn't "very strong". I can't play my legally purcahsed music under Linux. Telling the judge that it's OK for you to rape someone because you were flaccid isn't going to hold up. If Apple doesn't want to do DRM, they shouldn't. They do do it, so they're evil. End of story.
>> -Proprietary hardware
> Such as? *crickets* Surely the fact that on installing Windows on a shiny Intel Mac, all of
> the drivers outside of the keyboard backlight are from other well-known vendors like
> Atheros, Intel, ATI, etc, should disprove THAT turd.
Those three manufacturers are some of the most widely known for proprietary drivers (and buggy hardware that their drivers don't even work around very well).
>> -Proprietary software
> And who isn't, other than Linux and BSD? They are the exceptions, not the rule. Windows, AIX,
> Solaris, BeOS, PalmOS, etc - you name it, it's most likely proprietary. At least Apple makes
> a good chunk of its base open, and has contributed other useful projects like WebKit and
> launchd.
WebKit was Open Source already. launchd is useless. Apple consistently avoids giving back to the community. With a lot of crying they will release some useless code just to get everyone to shut up.
They do take a lot though, and that's what they call a commitment to open source. I guess that's fine to market it that way (Samba is better than anything Apple could come up with), but it is misleading. Without Apple, all of the open source projects that OS X uses would still be doing fine. Apple needs them, not the other way around.
>> -Closed protocols
> Such as? Hell, even protocols they've pushed (like Rendezvous/Bonjour/ZeroConf) are standardized.
Oh yeah, it's really easy to buy music from iTunes with my standard-issue web browser. It's also very easy to build custom apps for the iPod, because Apple publishes an SDK! Oh wait, that's completely false.
>> -selected compatibility
> Again, who doesn't? I'm not even sure what you mean, unless you're upset you can't play a Divx on an iPod Video or something...
iRiver manages to do this, and their products are less expensive.
>> It's CEO is also know for pulling tantrums.
> Its CEO is known for having a VERY sharp idea of what he wants, and yes, being very difficult and arbitrary to get it sometimes. Those are not tantrums. Throwing a chair, that's a tamtrum.
Yes, Microsoft and Apple are both led by small children. You're allowed to hate MS and Apple, ya know.
> So, what, that's all 10 of you? Sounds like a winning product to me.
Except the product already exists, and I'm going to buy one soon. So what if there are only 10 users? That's somebody else's problem. I want what I want -- I don't care what business model it sustains. That's not for me to worry about because I don't work for the company.
Who cares if the product I choose wins, anyway? What does that matter?
> So when I'm thoroughly enjoying talking on my iPhone (or whatever the fuck they rename it due to Cisco's blatant shitheadedness)
You are better than me. The fact that you plan to buy a "cool product" means that I should just kill myself now. Oh wait.
Summary: different people like different things. Why do you care?
I've never noticed any of these problems, actually. The dev team is looking forward to your patches to fix them, though.
Firefox builds that are ready for primetime are branded "Iceweasel".
Development samples are available for anyone. The GP doesn't work for Troll; he shelled out his own cash to get a greenphone. That entitles him to "bad mouth" it all he wants. However, it's no secret that the preproduction samples are not for daily use!
Those people can buy the iPhone. As Apple itself said... you don't have to have 100% of the market to make money. If they sell 1000 Greenphones, TrollTech ends up doing pretty well. Buy your status symbol -- some of us don't care what other people think about our phones. (Gasp!)
To each his own. I want a hackable phone in the Greenphone form factor, I think it looks nice, so that's what I'm going to get as soon as it's feasible. I doubt it will be popular in the US market, but who cares? If it works for me, that's all that matters (to me).
You must be using it wrong, because it runs great on my 533MHz box. The version of KDE4 I've tested is even snappier.
Anyway, OS X isn't exactly a speed demon either. Which is why I think Jobs is lying about the iPhone using it -- for a device that can't run 3rd party software, using OS X is a real waste of CPU and money.
How does "slashdot" have a position? You post to slashdot and obviously don't share the beliefs that you accuse "slashdot" of having. I'm not sure you understand the concept of a message board. Just because that most everyone hates your flamebait doesn't mean that "slashdot" hates it.
> companies like Yahoo and Google would not be using it
Companies like Yahoo and Google use it for non-critical applications because they can easily hire as many minimum wage code monkeys as they need. When you're a big company, that hiring liquidity can often outweigh the fact that developing code is probably more expensive in PHP than sane languages. There's a reason why Google uses C++, Python, and Java for most things.
> Perl (by writing line noise code that you can't understand a week later)
2 ))->else()])). At that point, you might as well be using LISP. Not to mention that 90% of PHP's syntax is completely useless and has no reason for existing. (Why bother with dollar-signs in front of $variables when EVERYTHING IS THE SAME TYPE? Why bother with an OO model that uses interfaces when THERE IS NO TYPING IN THE LANGUAGE. etc.)
What? PHP has even worse syntax. Everything requires parentheses @print(foo(@$bar[$this->baz()->something(array(1,
Anyway, most people that actually know how to program find Perl much more readable. If you're having trouble, maybe you should adjust the focus of your monitor.
Nobody uses those, though, because they're buggy, broken, and braindead.
I trust PHP security experts about as far as I can throw them. This guy is the author of a PHP security book and I found many many severe security problems in his published code. To parse XML, for example, he cleverly injected some PHP into the string containing the XML fetched from an untrusted server, and then eval()d the whole mess. Needless to say, that's not a very secure way to parse XML!
If this is how published security experts write PHP, I pray to god that I never have to look at any entry-level PHP.