I pushed post and naturally my post disappeared from the screen. I waited a bit to see if it would come back (even on "classic" D2 it sometimes took a couple of seconds) but it never did. I had to come back to classic D2 to see that the post did, in fact, submit (so at least the posting part worked, even if there's absolutely no feedback to that effect). While I was here I scrolled through the rest of the comments on Classic to see if there's any particular reason why some of the comments fonts are different than before, and I'm not able to find one. In classic, khellendros's post is exactly the same font as yours.
Note khellendros's post at the bottom of the second pic. Maybe double-spaced is an exaggeration, but your text is (for some inexplicitly bizarre reason) sans-serif and line-and-a-half or so spaced compared to his (for some inexplicably bizaarre reason) serif font, normally spaced.
but can explain it without needing to water down the information.
To help them do that, they have a box 3 inches tall by 10 inches wide (on my screen) where they can freely pontificate on a subject, collect their thoughts, and write a nice multiparagraph screed without much trouble.
I tried replying to a comment on the beta site and was able to fit about 40-50 words in the entire box (about 4 per line, about 10 lines tall) before it started scrolling. Formatting paragraphs and text like this is maddening.
The weird thing is that this isn't even the first time people have been angry over the comment-box size. I remember everyone up in arms over the tiny box that D2 originally had, fortunately they found someone who knew enough javascript to make the box full width.
Look, i'll be honest here, I'm not entirely against the new design. Here's all you have to do to win me over:
1. That person who decided lines should be doublespaced? Their head, on a pike, to serve as a warning to others who think websites should look like a 3rd grader's book report. 2. Get collapsed/abbreviated/full comments working again so the MyCleanPC troll doesn't take up 100000 screenfuls of realestate: http://beta.slashdot.org/story... 3. Do something to stop wasting the right side of the comments. Flow the comments around the sidebar. Pack the sidebar stuff up higher. I don't know, how the heck do comments fit below the sidebar now (I even have mod points and the modpoint sidebar), but can't with the gigantic picture and doublespaced text in the summary?
the rest - to read tons of Insightful comments from fellow Slashdotters
Simply put, the new site is designed to put an end to this. Have you ever seen a comment on YouTube that is as long as you've posted? Not many? You know why? Because they give you an itty bitty box for you to put itty bitty thoughts in, and that's how their most insightful posts are variations on "how is babby formed"
With the tiny (seriously, I can put about 4 words in before it wraps and it's only 4 or 5 lines tall) box on the beta site, the most insightful comment on slashdot will become
You know what? I'll take the new beta site when they stop
double spacing
all the lines
of text
in a little column
on the left
to make room for a giant column that has one ad at the top and is otherwise empty all the way down the entire comment section. I mean fuck, if they want to be all web 9.2 or whatever the version we're supposed to be on, they should have their "promoted" comments on top in their little colored boxes with their ads and shit on the side (just like the old fogey screen) then give us a working nested comment section that doesn't max out at 2 comments on the screen. Case in point: I went to http://science-beta.slashdot.o... and control-f'd your name and found this very comment. On the old fogey screen, your comment (including the quote) takes 11 lines (including the paragraph break after "now..." On the beta with the same screen size, your post takes 29 lines, not counting the fact that line spacing is set to about 1.5 or so. The first line of your post is
Yeah. Shows how out of touch the people in
That's all that fits. For the lulz, I hit reply over there and the reply box has a huge amount of padding on the inside. The first line of this comment before it wraps is
You know what? I'll take the new
This doesn't look like the new web, it looks like a 150 year old newspaper from back when editors said "fuck everything we're doing SEVEN columns of newsprint!" and a tiny font and that was progress.
Also, give us back abbreviated view, so nesting works right even if there's a -1 comment in the chain without mycleanpc taking up 50 goddamn screens each. I also feel sorry for the people who aren't in the first 20 or so posters because nobody's going to sit there mashing "more" over and over.
The easy answer: 1) the liberals hope they'll vote for them because they tend to be poor. 2) the Republicans hope they'll vote for them because they tend to be Catholic and anti-abortion.
The real answer: X) the corporations hope they'll work for them at sub-market wages because they're entitled to cheap labor.
It's telling that back when Bush Jr was governor here, he'd talk a big talk about cracking down on immigrants, then he'd be called into a meeting of the Chamber of Commerce, and he'd tone it down after that. He got to be president and his puppet masters had to make him come down against the Minutemen militia, despite the fact that no matter what your opinion of the second amendment is, just about every interpretation of it supports a regulated militia for the defense of our borders from invasion.
Nobody's going to spend their day wiggling their finger around on their ear.
The problem is that the "Remotte" is basically trying to cram everything into one hard to hold candybar with 15 flashing lights (wtf), when what we really need is something shaped more like a Wii nunchuck.
system that arranges for free or discounted transportation to an advertiser's business location that will be more or less convenient based upon how profitable a customer is deemed.
"Now that we've picked you up and driven you across town, it's best that you be thinking of spending a few thousand dollars. You'd like to get back home sometime today, wouldn't you?"
Isn't that what gathering "meta data" is all about.
Hum... no?
So millions of my tax dollars goes into paying AT&T to tell the NSA everyone I talk to, when I talk to them, and how long I'm on the phone, and the NSA just throws it away? They don't put that information in a file somewhere?
Well, now I guess I'm outraged for a different reason.
What, all the people saying "well granny shouldn't have to pay for the interwebs she's not torrenting" are suddenly wising up to the fact that the granny tier is going to be regular price and the charges go up from there? Did they honestly think granny was going to get a discount for just using email?
1000x this. HVAC controls should be about comfort, not temperature.
I'd also love to see a "thermostat" with a "dehumidify" button: run for the next 15 minutes no matter what the temperature is. That'll fix both cool/damp and warm/muggy. And also feel great when I come in after the yardwork drenched in sweat and want to stand in front of the register with cool air coming from it.
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Have a pic.
Also chrome on windows.
I pushed post and naturally my post disappeared from the screen. I waited a bit to see if it would come back (even on "classic" D2 it sometimes took a couple of seconds) but it never did. I had to come back to classic D2 to see that the post did, in fact, submit (so at least the posting part worked, even if there's absolutely no feedback to that effect). While I was here I scrolled through the rest of the comments on Classic to see if there's any particular reason why some of the comments fonts are different than before, and I'm not able to find one. In classic, khellendros's post is exactly the same font as yours.
Have a picture of your post: http://imgur.com/YaOtcUk
And another of this post: http://imgur.com/YvQjTIf
Note khellendros's post at the bottom of the second pic. Maybe double-spaced is an exaggeration, but your text is (for some inexplicitly bizarre reason) sans-serif and line-and-a-half or so spaced compared to his (for some inexplicably bizaarre reason) serif font, normally spaced.
but can explain it without needing to water down the information.
To help them do that, they have a box 3 inches tall by 10 inches wide (on my screen) where they can freely pontificate on a subject, collect their thoughts, and write a nice multiparagraph screed without much trouble.
I tried replying to a comment on the beta site and was able to fit about 40-50 words in the entire box (about 4 per line, about 10 lines tall) before it started scrolling. Formatting paragraphs and text like this is maddening.
The weird thing is that this isn't even the first time people have been angry over the comment-box size. I remember everyone up in arms over the tiny box that D2 originally had, fortunately they found someone who knew enough javascript to make the box full width.
Look, i'll be honest here, I'm not entirely against the new design. Here's all you have to do to win me over:
1. That person who decided lines should be doublespaced? Their head, on a pike, to serve as a warning to others who think websites should look like a 3rd grader's book report.
2. Get collapsed/abbreviated/full comments working again so the MyCleanPC troll doesn't take up 100000 screenfuls of realestate: http://beta.slashdot.org/story...
3. Do something to stop wasting the right side of the comments. Flow the comments around the sidebar. Pack the sidebar stuff up higher. I don't know, how the heck do comments fit below the sidebar now (I even have mod points and the modpoint sidebar), but can't with the gigantic picture and doublespaced text in the summary?
Simply put, the new site is designed to put an end to this. Have you ever seen a comment on YouTube that is as long as you've posted? Not many? You know why? Because they give you an itty bitty box for you to put itty bitty thoughts in, and that's how their most insightful posts are variations on "how is babby formed"
With the tiny (seriously, I can put about 4 words in before it wraps and it's only 4 or 5 lines tall) box on the beta site, the most insightful comment on slashdot will become
(thanks to the inane double-spacing in the text).
You know what? I'll take the new beta site when they stop
double spacing
all the lines
of text
in a little column
on the left
to make room for a giant column that has one ad at the top and is otherwise empty all the way down the entire comment section. I mean fuck, if they want to be all web 9.2 or whatever the version we're supposed to be on, they should have their "promoted" comments on top in their little colored boxes with their ads and shit on the side (just like the old fogey screen) then give us a working nested comment section that doesn't max out at 2 comments on the screen. Case in point: I went to http://science-beta.slashdot.o... and control-f'd your name and found this very comment. On the old fogey screen, your comment (including the quote) takes 11 lines (including the paragraph break after "now..." On the beta with the same screen size, your post takes 29 lines, not counting the fact that line spacing is set to about 1.5 or so. The first line of your post is
That's all that fits. For the lulz, I hit reply over there and the reply box has a huge amount of padding on the inside. The first line of this comment before it wraps is
This doesn't look like the new web, it looks like a 150 year old newspaper from back when editors said "fuck everything we're doing SEVEN columns of newsprint!" and a tiny font and that was progress.
Also, give us back abbreviated view, so nesting works right even if there's a -1 comment in the chain without mycleanpc taking up 50 goddamn screens each. I also feel sorry for the people who aren't in the first 20 or so posters because nobody's going to sit there mashing "more" over and over.
My canceling my phone service and telling them I'm switching to T-Mobile because of cloud throttling.
Wake me when T-Mobile offers FTTP, until then keep pretending you have a clue what you're going on about.
The easy answer:
1) the liberals hope they'll vote for them because they tend to be poor.
2) the Republicans hope they'll vote for them because they tend to be Catholic and anti-abortion.
The real answer:
X) the corporations hope they'll work for them at sub-market wages because they're entitled to cheap labor.
It's telling that back when Bush Jr was governor here, he'd talk a big talk about cracking down on immigrants, then he'd be called into a meeting of the Chamber of Commerce, and he'd tone it down after that. He got to be president and his puppet masters had to make him come down against the Minutemen militia, despite the fact that no matter what your opinion of the second amendment is, just about every interpretation of it supports a regulated militia for the defense of our borders from invasion.
Not knowing a single damn thing about what they're doing has never stopped a politician before.
Google's only mistake was paying full price instead of sending in a CEO to destroy the company.
Nobody's going to spend their day wiggling their finger around on their ear.
The problem is that the "Remotte" is basically trying to cram everything into one hard to hold candybar with 15 flashing lights (wtf), when what we really need is something shaped more like a Wii nunchuck.
Hey, it could happen!
Is your day that easy to ruin?
Is it Sunday?
Can I buy a beer?
Well damn, my day's shot.
I bet that can be made a page somewhere that directly tells you that your current Tor connection is unsafe because the exit node.
Except the bad exit node would replace the page with a page telling you that everything is all good.
"Now that we've picked you up and driven you across town, it's best that you be thinking of spending a few thousand dollars. You'd like to get back home sometime today, wouldn't you?"
Being a hypocrite doesn't make you wrong, it just makes you a hypocrite.
some kind of "roadnet" becoming sentient and plunging us into a dark and dismal future?
As long as my car can drive itself in the dark, I'm cool with that.
So millions of my tax dollars goes into paying AT&T to tell the NSA everyone I talk to, when I talk to them, and how long I'm on the phone, and the NSA just throws it away? They don't put that information in a file somewhere?
Well, now I guess I'm outraged for a different reason.
Contracts are for the little people to keep up. Companies shouldn't be bothered with such trivialities especially when they cut into profit.
What, all the people saying "well granny shouldn't have to pay for the interwebs she's not torrenting" are suddenly wising up to the fact that the granny tier is going to be regular price and the charges go up from there? Did they honestly think granny was going to get a discount for just using email?
which is only possible thanks to the fact that we don't have common carrier restrictions on line/transmission services.
Actually, for all the things common carrier may or may not fix, this isn't one of them. Only competition controls pricing.
It's exactly like a postcard! If you have hundreds of thousands of dollars in listening and decryption equipment anyone can look at the message!
WHAT I CANT HEAR YOU I'M SITTING OVER THE WING BY THE ENGINES SPEAK UP
too many caps in my message so here are some lowercase letters to average out the volume.
1000x this. HVAC controls should be about comfort, not temperature.
I'd also love to see a "thermostat" with a "dehumidify" button: run for the next 15 minutes no matter what the temperature is. That'll fix both cool/damp and warm/muggy. And also feel great when I come in after the yardwork drenched in sweat and want to stand in front of the register with cool air coming from it.