when an act is accepted by a significant proportion of the population, chances are that act is ethical
You mean, like slavery in the US 200 years ago? Or, more recently, the anti-communist witch-hunts of the 1950s? Or, currently, the systematic violations of your rights that occur at airports every time that you want to make a trip on a commercial airline? Or the killing of non-human animals for sport? Or the killing of pre-natal children? Or the forced indocrination of religion on post-natal children (in church , Sunday-school, etc.)? Or the idea that it's OK for a government to take a huge chunk of your income and spend it on things to which you are ethically opposed (like war, or Welfare (or both, depending on your point of view))? Or the idea that Britney Spears has talent and deserves her fame? Or the idea that it's O.K. for stupid football games to repeatedly preempt a great T.V. program like Firefly, eventually leading to the latter program's demise?
Wait, I appear to be drifting off-topic. The point that I'm trying to make is that a popular belief is not always ethical, especially by my standards, which are the only ones that I care about anyway. That's why the U.S. government was created as a republic, not a democracy, and why we have a Supreme Court to curb the excesses of a supposedly popularly-elected Congress.
I realize that your original point had to do with using gas, and I drove in a gasoline-powered car to where I bought these things, so, even though a truck wasn't used, gasoline was.
I do know how "Christmas" is spelled. I previewed twice before I posted, but somehow I missed it.
Actually, what I used to buy was usually farm produce. Also, I may have bought some from the farmers themselves, right outside their fields, but it was so long ago that I can't recall exactly.
For people that don't have Amish living nearby (such as where I live now), if you buy farm produce from roadside stands right outside the farmer's fields (which was probably "shipped" there by a tractor, not a truck), or strawberries, pumpkins or other fruits/vegetables from "pick your own" farms, or Christams trees from "cut your own" tree farms, and take the stuff home in your car (as opposed to in your pickup truck), then you are most likely getting produce that was not shipped by truck anywhere along the line.
Yes, by car. (Note that the O.P. claimed that everything was shipped by truck. My car is not a truck.)
Was it dirt roads the whole way there from your house?
No, but the condition of the roads is irrelevant. I assume that you are trying to make the point that the materials to make the road were shipped by truck, but that is not that same thing as the goods themselves being shipped by truck. Similarly, the fact that my car was shipped to the dealership by truck is also irrelevant, as is the fact that the money that I used to buy the merchandise was probably shipped by (armored) truck to the bank/ATM from which I withdrew it. The claim was that the merchandise itself was shipped by truck somewhere along the line, not that systems that facilitated the construction/distribution/purchasing/etc. of the merchandise were shipped by truck.
Everything in the United States gets shipped by truck. EVERYTHING. It may be on a train or a plane for part of the trip, but at some point in time it was on a truck.
I present/. with the challenge of presenting a counter-example;~)
I used to occasionally buy stuff from an Amish collective. They would ship their goods to market by horsecart.
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Jonny loped into the house through the back door, tossed his books on the table, and snared a double chocolate-chip cookie from the package lying on the counter.
"I'm home!" called out the lanky, blond-haired, blue-eyed teen.
"That's nice, dear," replied his petite, blond-haired, blue-eyed mother, who was vacuuming the living room. "How was school?"
These photographs taken by one of my colleagues, which have been linked elsewhere from this topic
Yes, I'm very sorry that I did not click on every other link on the page before posting. I apologize most profusely for not spending several hours doing in-depth research before dashing off a ten-minute post, unlike most people who post here.
P.S. "PS" or "P.S.", not "ps" (sic). Hope this helps.
But if there's nothing around that's flammable, a fire won't start in the first place, and if there's very little around that's flammable, any fire that does start won't get very far.
So it won't matter that wood gives you a better warning that it is about to collapse, because there won't be a fire in the first place.
And I have seen videos of demos where a fire starts on a couch, then burns hotter and hotter, then the paint and paper on the walls and ceiling catches fire. If the walls were cement boards like those used in bathrooms in the shower area, covered with plaster or tiles or flame-resistant paint, they would not ignite in such a situation. (Of course, if the couch were covered with flame-resistant fabric, the room would never get to that point in the first place, so I guess that it doesn't really matter.)
As far as steel doors go, I didn't mean solid steel doors; I meant steel doors of the kind that you can get at Home Depot or Lowes, which have a steel shell and insulated foam interior, except that the foam insulation should be non-flammable. Either that, or leave out the insulation altogether. It doesn't really matter, though, because without something to burn, the door would never have to withstand a fire in the first place. The only reason that I wrote "steel door" was because I don't know of any other kind that won't burn.
As far as wood smoke being less harmful than other kinds, well, if there's no fire in the first place, it won't matter, since there will be no smoke at all. To coin a phrase, were there's no fire, there's no smoke.
The whole point of my post was that a building can be constructed and furnished so that it won't burn in the first place (well, unless a tanker truck or airplane (OK, aeroplane, sorry) crashes into it). Such a building would be more expensive than an ordinary building, but in the case of this facility, it would have been worth the extra expense.
The building was of steel-frame construction with aluminium cladding. If you were to look at any of the photographs, this is quite clear
The article has twosmall photograhs, which show mostly smoke. The composition of the building was not "clear" from those two photographs. (The second photo linked to another phograph, which linked to another, etc., but I did not follow these, as the first one just showed more smoke, and I dispise "slideshows".)
The building contained substantial amounts of flammable chemicals used in the fabrication processes carried out there, which had much to do with the intensity of the fire.
And those chemicals (except for the small amounts needed for, say, that day's experiments) could have been stored in an outbuilding, away from the main building and valuable equipment.
The people who designed and ran this facility were not fools, as you seem to be suggesting.
And yet, the building was destroyed, when it needn't have been.
I had the same reaction. This is (uh, was) a multi-million dollar (OK, multi-million pound, sorry) facility. Where was all of the fire-suppression equipment? Why was the builing itself so flammable?
I can understand using wood in lower-cost construction (e.g., residential homes), but such a valuable facility should have been constructed out of concrete and steel. In addition, it should have had many or all of the following characteristics:
No wood in/on the walls, and no paper-coated drywall.
Steel doors.
No wooden floors (just tile and such).
No wooden furniture (e.g., only steel desks, etc.).
Flame-resistant paint.
Flame-resistant fabric, where fabric is necessary (on chairs, curtains, etc.).
Steel bookcases with doors of steel or tempered glass.
Steel cases (instead of plastic) and aluminum (OK, aluminium, sorry) knobs on the scientific equipment, and sealed electronics wherever possible.
Copper/steel/cast iron pipes, instead of PVC.
Flame-resistant coatings on all wiring, etc.
Dangerous experiments (e.g., those requiring explosive chemicals) conducted in outbuildings.
And, most importantly, a working, effective, and periodically tested fire-suppression system.
This is all very expensive, and is probably not cost-effective in most situations. However, since the "facility was one of the best in the world", and "Some of the most advanced research work in the country, and indeed the world was carried out in this facility", I think that the added expense would have been worth it.
Even at 1200 DPI,.94050625e-12 is less than a pixel.
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All right; here is some non-repeating stuff: It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, A beautiful day for a neighbor. Would you be mine? Could you be mine?
Oh, crap, that repeats, too.
OK, how about this: She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah. She loves you, yeah, yeah, no, that has lots of repetition, too.
Well, let me try submitting again, anyway.
Nope. All right; time to get serious: Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation. We, the People of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect Union, do ordain and establish this constitution, which politicians will shred sometime in the early twenty-first century. Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, I ended up missing Firefly because I spent to much time pondering. I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieveing the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth.
Oh, for some diety's sake. Alright, I'm going to change 0.00000000000094050625 to.94050625e-12, and see if that works.
Woohoo! It worked! I don't know why the AC could use that standard form of the number, while I have to use scientific notation.
You misspelled "outside New England". I've always lived in states touching the Mississippi River or west of it and had assumed that every place assigned addresses logically.
You've obviously never been to Atlanta, Georgia, where, by law, numbers aren't allowed in street names, and at least 50% of the streets must begin with "Peachtree". (Yeah, go down Peachtree Street and turn right at Peachtree Court, then turn left at Ponce deLeon (pronounced "Ponce dee-LEE-on", or, frequently, just "Ponce"), go down to Peachtree Circle, make a jog onto Peachtree Lane, then turn left on Peachtree Industrial Boulevard for about three miles, then right onto Jimmy Carter Boulevard for about five miles, then right again onto Peachtree Circle (no, that's a different Peachtree Circle than the other Peachtree Circle), then right again onto Peachtree Road, then turn right yet again after about two miles to stay on Peachtree Road (because if you go straight, it turns into Peachtree Avenue), and after a mile or so, Peachtree Plaza should be on your left.
At present, if she prints to the HP LJ4 she gets the square of the number of copies she requests
The workaround is easy: request the square root of the number of copies that she actually needs. For example, if she wants 5 copies, she should request 2.2360679775 copies. Simple, no?
Not all solar power involves photovoltaics. For example, mirrors can concentrate sunlight on a large Stirling Engine to produce eletricity. There are several pilot projects in the works. Google for more info.
You're forgetting the pilot and first officer of Serenity. (You know, that blonde geeky guy and the hot chick from Cleopatra 2525.) They're married and get it on regularly (it seems), but the only conflict that I've seen them have is that he sometimes gets jealous of the relationship between his wife and the captain, and she wants a kid but he doesn't. Also, Serenity is a small ship with a small crew, and no holodeck, replicators, or transporters.
All in all, Firefly seems to be a much closer match to what an actual Mars mission would be like, in terms of technology and the size of the ship and crew, than the various Star Trek scenarios.
make a robotic "Dino" from the Flintstones, and see if it really just licks Fred Flintstone when he comes home, or really tears out a big chunk of his jugular vein.
Dino is obviously a vegetarian (a Brontosaurus-type dinosaur), so I doubt that he would attack Fred or anyone else. His lack of claws and sharp teeth support this hypothesis.
why not just put the clock 1Hr backwards all year round?
President Carter tried this back in the 1970s. The result was an increase in the accident rate between automobiles and schoolchildren, who were waiting for the schoolbus (or walking to the bus stop/school/etc.) in the dark. The plan was abandoned after one year.
You know, there's a word for a vehicle that doesn't have an engine, or a bed, and is smaller than a car.
It's called a wagon.
Actually, the terms are rather blurred. For example, railroad dining cars are not self-powered, station wagons have an engine, and covered wagons had beds (or, at least, bedding).
One of the definitions of "car", from dictionary.com, is "4-wheeled motor vehicle; usually propelled by an internal combustion engine". Note the word "usually". By stretching this definition, the "motor" could be the STM probe or the heated gold atoms or whatever actually make the vehicle move. (The article isn't clear about that.) Note that there is no requirement in the definition that the motor be mounted on the device itself. So, the device has four wheels, and is powered by a motor. That makes it a car.
I know that this is splitting hairs, but a split hair is a pretty big thing at nanoscales.
The European Southern Observatory already operates two of the finest atronomical facilities on the planet there.
And I'm sure that a facility that depends so much on thin, relatively pristine air for it's optimum operation would have no problem having nearby a device that will pump tons of pollutants into the atmosphere.
After reading all of the sibling posts stating that you shouldn't have done anything extra, and that your manager was right to criticize you for making its customer happy, all that I can say is that if that type of thing is a preferred standard American business practice, then it's no wonder that our country is going down the toilet.
some easy way of inputting tab characters in things like code listings would be useful; I've never worked out how some people get that to work.
One way is to create the text in an external editor, then copy/paste it into the text box:
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Or, more recently, the anti-communist witch-hunts of the 1950s?
Or, currently, the systematic violations of your rights that occur at airports every time that you want to make a trip on a commercial airline?
Or the killing of non-human animals for sport?
Or the killing of pre-natal children?
Or the forced indocrination of religion on post-natal children (in church , Sunday-school, etc.)?
Or the idea that it's OK for a government to take a huge chunk of your income and spend it on things to which you are ethically opposed (like war, or Welfare (or both, depending on your point of view))?
Or the idea that Britney Spears has talent and deserves her fame?
Or the idea that it's O.K. for stupid football games to repeatedly preempt a great T.V. program like Firefly, eventually leading to the latter program's demise?
Wait, I appear to be drifting off-topic.
The point that I'm trying to make is that a popular belief is not always ethical, especially by my standards, which are the only ones that I care about anyway.
That's why the U.S. government was created as a republic, not a democracy, and why we have a Supreme Court to curb the excesses of a supposedly popularly-elected Congress.
I previewed twice before I posted, but somehow I missed it.
Actually, what I used to buy was usually farm produce.
Also, I may have bought some from the farmers themselves, right outside their fields, but it was so long ago that I can't recall exactly.
For people that don't have Amish living nearby (such as where I live now), if you buy farm produce from roadside stands right outside the farmer's fields (which was probably "shipped" there by a tractor, not a truck), or strawberries, pumpkins or other fruits/vegetables from "pick your own" farms, or Christams trees from "cut your own" tree farms, and take the stuff home in your car (as opposed to in your pickup truck), then you are most likely getting produce that was not shipped by truck anywhere along the line.
(Note that the O.P. claimed that everything was shipped by truck.
My car is not a truck.)No, but the condition of the roads is irrelevant.
I assume that you are trying to make the point that the materials to make the road were shipped by truck, but that is not that same thing as the goods themselves being shipped by truck.
Similarly, the fact that my car was shipped to the dealership by truck is also irrelevant, as is the fact that the money that I used to buy the merchandise was probably shipped by (armored) truck to the bank/ATM from which I withdrew it.
The claim was that the merchandise itself was shipped by truck somewhere along the line, not that systems that facilitated the construction/distribution/purchasing/etc. of the merchandise were shipped by truck.
They would ship their goods to market by horsecart.
In fact, it didn't put it out at all.
I apologize most profusely for not spending several hours doing in-depth research before dashing off a ten-minute post, unlike most people who post here.
P.S. "P S" or "P.S.", not "ps" (sic). Hope this helps.
But if there's nothing around that's flammable, a fire won't start in the first place, and if there's very little around that's flammable, any fire that does start won't get very far.
So it won't matter that wood gives you a better warning that it is about to collapse, because there won't be a fire in the first place.
And I have seen videos of demos where a fire starts on a couch, then burns hotter and hotter, then the paint and paper on the walls and ceiling catches fire.
If the walls were cement boards like those used in bathrooms in the shower area, covered with plaster or tiles or flame-resistant paint, they would not ignite in such a situation.
(Of course, if the couch were covered with flame-resistant fabric, the room would never get to that point in the first place, so I guess that it doesn't really matter.)
As far as steel doors go, I didn't mean solid steel doors; I meant steel doors of the kind that you can get at Home Depot or Lowes, which have a steel shell and insulated foam interior, except that the foam insulation should be non-flammable.
Either that, or leave out the insulation altogether.
It doesn't really matter, though, because without something to burn, the door would never have to withstand a fire in the first place.
The only reason that I wrote "steel door" was because I don't know of any other kind that won't burn.
As far as wood smoke being less harmful than other kinds, well, if there's no fire in the first place, it won't matter, since there will be no smoke at all.
To coin a phrase, were there's no fire, there's no smoke.
The whole point of my post was that a building can be constructed and furnished so that it won't burn in the first place (well, unless a tanker truck or airplane (OK, aeroplane, sorry) crashes into it).
Such a building would be more expensive than an ordinary building, but in the case of this facility, it would have been worth the extra expense.
The composition of the building was not "clear" from those two photographs.
(The second photo linked to another phograph, which linked to another, etc., but I did not follow these, as the first one just showed more smoke, and I dispise "slideshows".)And those chemicals (except for the small amounts needed for, say, that day's experiments) could have been stored in an outbuilding, away from the main building and valuable equipment.And yet, the building was destroyed, when it needn't have been.
This is (uh, was) a multi-million dollar (OK, multi-million pound, sorry) facility.
Where was all of the fire-suppression equipment?
Why was the builing itself so flammable?
I can understand using wood in lower-cost construction (e.g., residential homes), but such a valuable facility should have been constructed out of concrete and steel.
In addition, it should have had many or all of the following characteristics:
- No wood in/on the walls, and no paper-coated drywall.
- Steel doors.
- No wooden floors (just tile and such).
- No wooden furniture (e.g., only steel desks, etc.).
- Flame-resistant paint.
- Flame-resistant fabric, where fabric is necessary (on chairs, curtains, etc.).
- Steel bookcases with doors of steel or tempered glass.
- Steel cases (instead of plastic) and aluminum (OK, aluminium, sorry) knobs on the scientific equipment, and sealed electronics wherever possible.
- Copper/steel/cast iron pipes, instead of PVC.
- Flame-resistant coatings on all wiring, etc.
- Dangerous experiments (e.g., those requiring explosive chemicals) conducted in outbuildings.
- And, most importantly, a working, effective, and periodically tested fire-suppression system.
This is all very expensive, and is probably not cost-effective in most situations.However, since the "facility was one of the best in the world", and "Some of the most advanced research work in the country, and indeed the world was carried out in this facility", I think that the added expense would have been worth it.
Even at 1200 DPI, .94050625e-12 is less than a pixel.
.94050625e-12, and see if that works.
Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
Reason: Too much repetition.
All right; here is some non-repeating stuff:
It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Oh, crap, that repeats, too.
OK, how about this:
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She loves you, yeah, yeah, no, that has lots of repetition, too.
Well, let me try submitting again, anyway.
Nope.
All right; time to get serious:
Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation.
We, the People of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect Union, do ordain and establish this constitution, which politicians will shred sometime in the early twenty-first century.
Once upon a midnight dreary,
while I pondered, weak and weary,
I ended up missing Firefly because I spent to much time pondering.
I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieveing the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth.
Oh, for some diety's sake.
Alright, I'm going to change 0.00000000000094050625 to
Woohoo! It worked!
I don't know why the AC could use that standard form of the number, while I have to use scientific notation.
(Yeah, go down Peachtree Street and turn right at Peachtree Court, then turn left at Ponce deLeon (pronounced "Ponce dee-LEE-on", or, frequently, just "Ponce"), go down to Peachtree Circle, make a jog onto Peachtree Lane, then turn left on Peachtree Industrial Boulevard for about three miles, then right onto Jimmy Carter Boulevard for about five miles, then right again onto Peachtree Circle (no, that's a different Peachtree Circle than the other Peachtree Circle), then right again onto Peachtree Road, then turn right yet again after about two miles to stay on Peachtree Road (because if you go straight, it turns into Peachtree Avenue), and after a mile or so, Peachtree Plaza should be on your left.
OK, that's an exaggeration, but only just.
For example, if she wants 5 copies, she should request 2.2360679775 copies.
Simple, no?
As someone who has not yet seen the movie, I just want to say thanks a lot, asshole.
Not all solar power involves photovoltaics.
For example, mirrors can concentrate sunlight on a large Stirling Engine to produce eletricity.
There are several pilot projects in the works.
Google for more info.
You're forgetting the pilot and first officer of Serenity.
(You know, that blonde geeky guy and the hot chick from Cleopatra 2525.)
They're married and get it on regularly (it seems), but the only conflict that I've seen them have is that he sometimes gets jealous of the relationship between his wife and the captain, and she wants a kid but he doesn't.
Also, Serenity is a small ship with a small crew, and no holodeck, replicators, or transporters.
All in all, Firefly seems to be a much closer match to what an actual Mars mission would be like, in terms of technology and the size of the ship and crew, than the various Star Trek scenarios.
Well, except for the artificial gravity.
And the hooker.
His lack of claws and sharp teeth support this hypothesis.
The result was an increase in the accident rate between automobiles and schoolchildren, who were waiting for the schoolbus (or walking to the bus stop/school/etc.) in the dark.
The plan was abandoned after one year.
For example, railroad dining cars are not self-powered, station wagons have an engine, and covered wagons had beds (or, at least, bedding).
One of the definitions of "car", from dictionary.com, is "4-wheeled motor vehicle; usually propelled by an internal combustion engine".
Note the word "usually".
By stretching this definition, the "motor" could be the STM probe or the heated gold atoms or whatever actually make the vehicle move.
(The article isn't clear about that.)
Note that there is no requirement in the definition that the motor be mounted on the device itself.
So, the device has four wheels, and is powered by a motor.
That makes it a car.
I know that this is splitting hairs, but a split hair is a pretty big thing at nanoscales.
It's called "plants" (the biological kind, not the smokestack kind).
Ooo! Ooo! I've got it! "SPACE man".
Seriously, just look at similar US/UK differences ("airplane" vs "areoplane", etc.), and use the British spelling: "Aestreounaught".
After reading all of the sibling posts stating that you shouldn't have done anything extra, and that your manager was right to criticize you for making its customer happy, all that I can say is that if that type of thing is a preferred standard American business practice, then it's no wonder that our country is going down the toilet.
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