Every time I just want to make a structure I've got to make a whole class.
Translation: Every time I just want to hack some old thing out based on my limited understanding, I'm forced to think about what I'm doing and learn something new, which I stubbornly refuse to do.
If you do not already have a copy of Large-Scale C++ Software Design by John Lakos, get it. I realize this isn't a tool per se, but he has a terrific section in chapter 10 on Using C++ Templates in Large Projects.
No, LoJack is not the same thing. You actually own the physical car, and it's in your posession. You can transfer ownership, modify, hack, and otherwise make it your own.
One job I was not particularly happy one day, so I pasted a copy of The Story of Mel into a comment in one particularly annoying part of the code. I wonder if it's still there.
Some states already have implemented this idea by creating special for-pay commuter lanes. They're called "Lexus lanes". It's bad enough to be excluding people who drive a long way but don't make much money -- but to give over a legitimate carpool lane to the fatcat drivers with more money than sense? The mind boggles.
Based on reading the Preface and a brief scan of the table of contents, this book is interesting for what the authors do not cover, by design. Nothing on static typing, nothing on algorithms, AI, databases, or numerical techniques.
To some, leaving these topics out of a "bible" would amount to extreme heresy. The content of this book owes more of its lineage to The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs than The Art of Computer Programming.
If anything, I hope they cut some of Gimli's "comedy relief" scenes. Particularly the one with him standing on top of the wall at Helm's Deep -- it did nothing but spoil the build-up of tension to the battle.
When I first read the headline, I was thinking, not that old urban legend again! Well it appears it's coming true -- sort of. Unless this is another go-round of the same.
The Skylab station was carried into space on the last of the Saturn V rockets to be launched. Hats off to the most powerful booster ever built. The Saturn V achieved a perfect launch record, rare in any rocket, much less a big one. Its computer was attached to the inside walls of a 1x6.7 meter ring, but your PDA is easily more powerful. Nevertheless the computer even demonstrated it could withstand a direct strike by lightning, twice, on the Apollo 12 launch and still keep going.
''Dreyfus argument is old, and its rebuttals are well-known''.
I've seen a few of the rebuttals, and for the most part they seem to line up thus: Dreyfus argues that the idea that understanding consists of formalized symbolic rules is a philosophical mistake. We (the GOFAI researchers) have machines that seem to understand (in limited way) using symbolic rules. Therefore symbolic rules must be OK, we just have to have more of them and add all the common-sense from projects like CYC, and we'll have complete understanding.
If you have some specific references to other rebuttals please post them, they'd be most welcome on my reading list.
Re:Will we ever have *real* AI?
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Indeed, GOFAI and the computational model of human intelligence is where Minsky and his ilk have been stuck for decades. As many of the other replies in this topic show, the traditional idea that the brain is a sort of fleshy collection of logic gates is still the most common belief. There are many authors that have written and demonstrated that the brain probably doesn't function as a mass of context-free predicate logic rules -- including my favorite, Hubert Dreyfus.
The progress of AI is uncertain, but it is certain that there's no future for symbolic logic AI.
Re:Maybe the problem is Minsky himself?
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So true. Minsky's Good Old-Fashioned AI (GOFAI) has been a dead field since the 70s, after they figured out that getting a computer that could move blocks around in an idealized simple world was not a small first step, and Eliza showed them how easy it was to conflate intelligent with clever. The "successes" they had towards AI were, as one author has written, like climbing to the top of a tall tree and claiming you've made progress getting to the moon.
Now Minksy, never wanting to admit his life's work has been a dead end, comes out saying that it's all these other researchers working in other directions that are at fault for there being no progress. I imagine he believes that if only they'd all climb the tree with him, the trip to the moon could really start.
Second the recommendation to use a Wiki. There are Wiki engines that support user authentication and history. Various backend storage mechanisms are also supported, from flat text files to full-blown relational databases. Take a look at the Wiki Clones Directory
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no future technology endeavours or independent software developers are safe from venture capitalists
You misspelled "vulture capitalists"
Unlike this guy, you aren't likely to survive going over a waterfall these days. A more recent discussion of the cost of change and a further examination by Alistair Cockburn might be better than reviewing Boehm again.
WORKSFORME
(ok that's really 3, but bugzilla users will understand)
And don't forget the Dawn Redwood. Thought to be extinct and known only from fossils until specimens were discovered in China in the 40s.
If you do not already have a copy of Large-Scale C++ Software Design by John Lakos, get it. I realize this isn't a tool per se, but he has a terrific section in chapter 10 on Using C++ Templates in Large Projects.
It took me a 2 seconds to inquire with freshmeat and get a couple of promising hits. I won't bill you for my time, though.
No, LoJack is not the same thing. You actually own the physical car, and it's in your posession. You can transfer ownership, modify, hack, and otherwise make it your own.
Yes! The website seems to be tolerating the slashdotting just fine, too. Time to stock up on strings for my Martin.
What's next? TCP/IP over carrier pigeons?
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NO CARRIER
One job I was not particularly happy one day, so I pasted a copy of The Story of Mel into a comment in one particularly annoying part of the code. I wonder if it's still there.
Some states already have implemented this idea by creating special for-pay commuter lanes. They're called "Lexus lanes". It's bad enough to be excluding people who drive a long way but don't make much money -- but to give over a legitimate carpool lane to the fatcat drivers with more money than sense? The mind boggles.
Congratulations to you and your colleague, Mr. Haridi, you've done a fine job.
Based on reading the Preface and a brief scan of the table of contents, this book is interesting for what the authors do not cover, by design. Nothing on static typing, nothing on algorithms, AI, databases, or numerical techniques.
To some, leaving these topics out of a "bible" would amount to extreme heresy. The content of this book owes more of its lineage to The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs than The Art of Computer Programming.
Oh that's hilarious! I hadn't noticed the stuff on the ground. That makes the difference in scale impressively clear.
Superficially they look similar, but compare the numbers:
CZ-2F: Diameter: 3.4 m, length 62.0 m. LEO Payload: 8,400 kg
Saturn V: Diameter: 10.1 m, length 102.0 m, LEO Payload: 118,000 kg(!)
If you removed the Apollo spacecraft and the 3rd stage (S-IVB) from the Saturn it still wouldn't fit through the CZ-2F's little door.
If anything, I hope they cut some of Gimli's "comedy relief" scenes. Particularly the one with him standing on top of the wall at Helm's Deep -- it did nothing but spoil the build-up of tension to the battle.
Clearly the ideal name for the sequel is V#.
When I first read the headline, I was thinking, not that old urban legend again! Well it appears it's coming true -- sort of. Unless this is another go-round of the same.
Salt that doesn't give you hypertension. Duh.
The Skylab station was carried into space on the last of the Saturn V rockets to be launched. Hats off to the most powerful booster ever built. The Saturn V achieved a perfect launch record, rare in any rocket, much less a big one. Its computer was attached to the inside walls of a 1x6.7 meter ring, but your PDA is easily more powerful. Nevertheless the computer even demonstrated it could withstand a direct strike by lightning, twice, on the Apollo 12 launch and still keep going.
''Dreyfus argument is old, and its rebuttals are well-known''.
I've seen a few of the rebuttals, and for the most part they seem to line up thus: Dreyfus argues that the idea that understanding consists of formalized symbolic rules is a philosophical mistake. We (the GOFAI researchers) have machines that seem to understand (in limited way) using symbolic rules. Therefore symbolic rules must be OK, we just have to have more of them and add all the common-sense from projects like CYC, and we'll have complete understanding.
If you have some specific references to other rebuttals please post them, they'd be most welcome on my reading list.
Indeed, GOFAI and the computational model of human intelligence is where Minsky and his ilk have been stuck for decades. As many of the other replies in this topic show, the traditional idea that the brain is a sort of fleshy collection of logic gates is still the most common belief. There are many authors that have written and demonstrated that the brain probably doesn't function as a mass of context-free predicate logic rules -- including my favorite, Hubert Dreyfus.
The progress of AI is uncertain, but it is certain that there's no future for symbolic logic AI.
So true. Minsky's Good Old-Fashioned AI (GOFAI) has been a dead field since the 70s, after they figured out that getting a computer that could move blocks around in an idealized simple world was not a small first step, and Eliza showed them how easy it was to conflate intelligent with clever. The "successes" they had towards AI were, as one author has written, like climbing to the top of a tall tree and claiming you've made progress getting to the moon.
Now Minksy, never wanting to admit his life's work has been a dead end, comes out saying that it's all these other researchers working in other directions that are at fault for there being no progress. I imagine he believes that if only they'd all climb the tree with him, the trip to the moon could really start.
Second the recommendation to use a Wiki. There are Wiki engines that support user authentication and history. Various backend storage mechanisms are also supported, from flat text files to full-blown relational databases. Take a look at the Wiki Clones Directory