Well, that's a reason that Open-Source would be *worse* than closed-source: if closed-source that worked was left alone, then there won't be many bugs in it (otherwise, it wouldn't be left alone), if open-source gets things rewritten for aesthetic or personal reasons then many bugs are going to be introduced.
'If it aint broke, don't touch it' should be the adage of every programmer (and is the reason banks still use Cobol for their apps)
not necessarily - there have been many Secret South American conspiracies to bring about the 4th Reich after the war. Everyone knows Hitler is alive and well and living in Beunos Aires, don't they?:-)
I read one book (well, read is perhaps too strong for this) where the bad guys had Hitler's head in a icebox and were planning to transplant it onto the body of a specially bred hitler-youth type.
So.. plenty of scope for Nazis to appear in the next movie.
nobody cares about software patents on/., everybody is complaining about business process patents.
If you create something new and innovative, then all power to you - only the most rabid OSS freaks will complain about that. However, if you patent 'using dual muscle/bone hybrid appendages for transport' (ie walking), or of course amazon's 'click once to purchase items' or even BTs 'using links to navigate the web' then everyone is going to get upset.
well, I wasn't really trolling, more feeding the original.
But my last point is the big deal. Although that attitude isn't solely confined to linux 'l33t' users, they seem to be the majority (or, those who think this way learn Linux and become part of the 'community' because it allows them to act that way. self fulfilling perhaps).
I wonder, if Linux becomes mainstream, will these people start complaining that Linux has 'sold out'? So many times other underground/minority/elitist projects have gained wide-spread acceptance, that has happened.
the above posted has it spot on - you not only want a forum (try phpBB, or FudForum) but a chaotic system that will settle down with use. If you put a wiki up, tell everyone the rules - they can change anything they want - and let them loose. At the end of the course - make them write up an essay on what they learned from this environment. Hopefully it'll have been constructive:-)
you don't need a dedicated Game Engine to write a game - choose all the bits that make up a gameengine from free libraries that are out there.
Eg. I use SDL for the windowing wrapper, OpenSceneGraph for the scene graph engine, PUI for the GUI... there are loads of such libraries.
The reason I do this - none of the game engines have all the pieces I want, or have them fully implemented. By mixing and matching libraries I can take the best, or more appropriate ones for me.
yeah, I know, but it isn't really funny. Perhaps if MS had left Hotmail running on its original BSD platform (or ported to Linux).... now that'd be funny given the rabid attacks from the linux zealots out there.
The second rule of Slashdot Club: never side with Microsoft. Oh wait, sorry, I read the first line twice, silly me. The second rule of Slashdot Club: no smoking in the hallways, please go outside.
Third rule of Slashdot Club: no littering, use the bins provided.
how funny woudl it be if it went to court and the spammers explained how easy it is to hijack Linux systems? not funny anymore huh?
I'm not trolling, remember that most of the email sent comes through unix systems, remember that there are plenty unpatched systems around, and plenty more where the admin either doesn't care or doesn't know he's running an open relay.
it will if they get one of their lawyers to look through each spam message when building their case. oh, well, $500 per lawyer-minute is a bit cheap really, they should sue for more!
The whole article could've fit on one page, but I guess that doesn't get very many banner impressions when you know that Slashdot will link to your story,
*sigh*. Its a sad day when sites like THG start karma whoring for money. What next.. THG's new headline 'MS to sell Linux' (click this banner...)
filtering after downloading doesn't speed up the crawl email takes across my slow connection.
true, however, the best you can do if your server doesn't support any spam filtering is use something like mailwasher - which doenloads the headers for you to preview in a dialog. you can they tell it to delete on the server, messages you don't want to see - and therefore don't download.
I use it, I like it, I'd prefer no spam at all, but the world isn't perfect.
you missed one - go home after doing your regular hours.
They cannot make you stay and work once your contracted hours are over. Sure, if just you go home and everyone else stays then that's a different matter.... but if enough go home, they can do nothing but negotiate with you. That goes double if you follow your boss out the door at 5:30:-)
I suppose you can start working poorly, but that's hardly constructive, and the managers won't see it even if you write 'all work and no play make johnny a very dull boy' over and over in the code.
Ugh. Not the closed-tin capitalist Hein$. they're rubbish. I use the open-sauce SupermarketOwnBrand. why would anyone want to buy a can of foodstuff without being able to stick their finger in it to taste first?!:-) pun intentional. sorry.
I can answer part of that straightaway. How much will it cost to purchase the 6 windows licences? How much will it cost to train your techies to understand Linux to the same degree they know Windows? (not to mention the morale and motivation issues)
I think the answer is probably going to be 'stick with windows', in your case. If you have 10,000 desktops, things would be more complicated.
It sounds like you want to use Linux, but can't really justify it. You certainly shouldn't bet your business on Linux just because it sounds good.
lastly, you'll find that much OSS software runs on Windows anyway, so you can still use the free software you want anyway.
you probably wouldn't want it. Here in the UK Milton Keynes (a new town) was outfitted with the latest cables - fibre to all the houses. Guess what. No-one can get DSL, and other BB tech to use the fibre are either non-existent, or prohibitively expensive. So. BT are laying copper cabling to the houses now so people can get DSL.
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similarly you get kids straight out of university who think everything should be implemented in java and xml because its 'cool', and they wrote a web page with it once.
Sometimes the old stuff is good *because it still works*, so it doesn't *need* to be updated.
when I was a lad we had to write out our packets using punched cards, in binary, with a blunt pen. And then give them to the computer technician who would put them in a drawer for a week before giving them back to you marked 'spelling mistake on card 53, correct and resubmit'.
you obviously don't have a job that depends on a revenue stream for your company.
When I worked at a telecoms billing software company, our primary customer was South Africa's MTel. They were desperate to do 'joint development', which actualy meant 'give us the source so in a year or two we can change strategy and work in-house'. Sure it would have been illegal, but we'd still have been stuffed.
commercial success depends on not showing people the blueprints is not stupid, its quite sensible business practise.
perhaps I am being very naive in terms of corporate accounting, but they are pulling out because they can't afford to continue running it all. Suppose they sell it all off to whoever happens to have cash these days (hmm. MS? err. is there anyone else?), do you suppose the new owner will keep the service levels going, or will they start to dump off the unprofitable bits (if they're not written off entirely), raise prices and sack more staff?
C&W were losing $1m a day running those networks... the article also said that the US market was unsustainable (compared to the UK, Japan). I'd like to know exactly what they meant there as it may be a sign for future trouble in other US telcos.
Oh I loved that idea - not because they coudl reform the minefield, but after the conflict is over. 'right lads, its all over. back in the box' and all the mines would disarm and hop back into the packing crate.
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Well, that's a reason that Open-Source would be *worse* than closed-source: if closed-source that worked was left alone, then there won't be many bugs in it (otherwise, it wouldn't be left alone), if open-source gets things rewritten for aesthetic or personal reasons then many bugs are going to be introduced.
'If it aint broke, don't touch it' should be the adage of every programmer (and is the reason banks still use Cobol for their apps)
not necessarily - there have been many Secret South American conspiracies to bring about the 4th Reich after the war. Everyone knows Hitler is alive and well and living in Beunos Aires, don't they? :-)
I read one book (well, read is perhaps too strong for this) where the bad guys had Hitler's head in a icebox and were planning to transplant it onto the body of a specially bred hitler-youth type.
So.. plenty of scope for Nazis to appear in the next movie.
90 days is a bit pants, but then, people do reboot their manchines for many, many reasons.
w by teandswitchcom_reboots_after_two_years.html
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/02/25/ww
If you create something new and innovative, then all power to you - only the most rabid OSS freaks will complain about that. However, if you patent 'using dual muscle/bone hybrid appendages for transport' (ie walking), or of course amazon's 'click once to purchase items' or even BTs 'using links to navigate the web' then everyone is going to get upset.
it was that red-shirt security guard, wasn't it?
well, I wasn't really trolling, more feeding the original.
But my last point is the big deal. Although that attitude isn't solely confined to linux 'l33t' users, they seem to be the majority (or, those who think this way learn Linux and become part of the 'community' because it allows them to act that way. self fulfilling perhaps).
I wonder, if Linux becomes mainstream, will these people start complaining that Linux has 'sold out'? So many times other underground/minority/elitist projects have gained wide-spread acceptance, that has happened.
the above posted has it spot on - you not only want a forum (try phpBB, or FudForum) but a chaotic system that will settle down with use. If you put a wiki up, tell everyone the rules - they can change anything they want - and let them loose. At the end of the course - make them write up an essay on what they learned from this environment. :-)
Hopefully it'll have been constructive
ah, it warms my heart to know that even the editors don't bother reading the articles before posting.
you don't need a dedicated Game Engine to write a game - choose all the bits that make up a gameengine from free libraries that are out there.
Eg. I use SDL for the windowing wrapper, OpenSceneGraph for the scene graph engine, PUI for the GUI... there are loads of such libraries.
The reason I do this - none of the game engines have all the pieces I want, or have them fully implemented. By mixing and matching libraries I can take the best, or more appropriate ones for me.
yeah, I know, but it isn't really funny.
Perhaps if MS had left Hotmail running on its original BSD platform (or ported to Linux).... now that'd be funny given the rabid attacks from the linux zealots out there.
cheers.
The second rule of Slashdot Club: never side with Microsoft.
Oh wait, sorry, I read the first line twice, silly me.
The second rule of Slashdot Club: no smoking in the hallways, please go outside.
Third rule of Slashdot Club: no littering, use the bins provided.
Fourth rule of Slashdot Club......
how funny woudl it be if it went to court and the spammers explained how easy it is to hijack Linux systems? not funny anymore huh?
I'm not trolling, remember that most of the email sent comes through unix systems, remember that there are plenty unpatched systems around, and plenty more where the admin either doesn't care or doesn't know he's running an open relay.
it will if they get one of their lawyers to look through each spam message when building their case. oh, well, $500 per lawyer-minute is a bit cheap really, they should sue for more!
*sigh*. Its a sad day when sites like THG start karma whoring for money. What next.. THG's new headline 'MS to sell Linux' (click this banner...)
true, however, the best you can do if your server doesn't support any spam filtering is use something like mailwasher - which doenloads the headers for you to preview in a dialog. you can they tell it to delete on the server, messages you don't want to see - and therefore don't download.
I use it, I like it, I'd prefer no spam at all, but the world isn't perfect.
cheers.
you missed one - go home after doing your regular hours.
:-)
They cannot make you stay and work once your contracted hours are over. Sure, if just you go home and everyone else stays then that's a different matter.... but if enough go home, they can do nothing but negotiate with you.
That goes double if you follow your boss out the door at 5:30
I suppose you can start working poorly, but that's hardly constructive, and the managers won't see it even if you write 'all work and no play make johnny a very dull boy' over and over in the code.
Ugh. Not the closed-tin capitalist Hein$. they're rubbish. I use the open-sauce SupermarketOwnBrand. why would anyone want to buy a can of foodstuff without being able to stick their finger in it to taste first?! :-)
pun intentional. sorry.
I think the answer is probably going to be 'stick with windows', in your case. If you have 10,000 desktops, things would be more complicated.
It sounds like you want to use Linux, but can't really justify it. You certainly shouldn't bet your business on Linux just because it sounds good.
lastly, you'll find that much OSS software runs on Windows anyway, so you can still use the free software you want anyway.
you probably wouldn't want it. Here in the UK Milton Keynes (a new town) was outfitted with the latest cables - fibre to all the houses. Guess what. No-one can get DSL, and other BB tech to use the fibre are either non-existent, or prohibitively expensive.
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So. BT are laying copper cabling to the houses now so people can get DSL.
http://www.adslguide.org/newsarchive.asp?item=1
similarly you get kids straight out of university who think everything should be implemented in java and xml because its 'cool', and they wrote a web page with it once.
Sometimes the old stuff is good *because it still works*, so it doesn't *need* to be updated.
(sorry if that sounded like a flame)
Carrier Pigeon. Luxury!
when I was a lad we had to write out our packets using punched cards, in binary, with a blunt pen. And then give them to the computer technician who would put them in a drawer for a week before giving them back to you marked 'spelling mistake on card 53, correct and resubmit'.
they couldn't develop it better - that's why they wanted the source code.
Business is never about who can do something better, but who can do it at all.
you obviously don't have a job that depends on a revenue stream for your company.
When I worked at a telecoms billing software company, our primary customer was South Africa's MTel. They were desperate to do 'joint development', which actualy meant 'give us the source so in a year or two we can change strategy and work in-house'. Sure it would have been illegal, but we'd still have been stuffed.
commercial success depends on not showing people the blueprints is not stupid, its quite sensible business practise.
perhaps I am being very naive in terms of corporate accounting, but they are pulling out because they can't afford to continue running it all. Suppose they sell it all off to whoever happens to have cash these days (hmm. MS? err. is there anyone else?), do you suppose the new owner will keep the service levels going, or will they start to dump off the unprofitable bits (if they're not written off entirely), raise prices and sack more staff?
C&W were losing $1m a day running those networks... the article also said that the US market was unsustainable (compared to the UK, Japan). I'd like to know exactly what they meant there as it may be a sign for future trouble in other US telcos.
Oh I loved that idea - not because they coudl reform the minefield, but after the conflict is over. 'right lads, its all over. back in the box' and all the mines would disarm and hop back into the packing crate.