Indiana Jones To Arrive Again in 2005

Dolemite_the_Wiz writes "The Raider.net reports that the release date for the next Indiana Jones Movie (tentatively titled 'Indiana Jones 4') is, according to Steven Spielberg, "...going to come out probably for the July 4th weekend of 2005...". The movie looks like it will be set in the 1950s and include just about every main character from the first three films. For more links about this movie, check this search result from Cinescape. Secondly, IndianaJones.com reports that the First three films in the Indiana Jones Trilogy will be released on November 4th. These films have to be one of the most requested DVD releases (probably next to the Original 'Star Wars' trilogy and the first two 'Godfather' movies) ever. " "

This Four DVD set will include:

- Restored Film Footage
- Remastered in THX
- New Dolby 5.1 soundtrack
- A 4th DVD with just about every aspect of how the films were made.

This collection will retail for $49.95 (US)

Here's the official release notice for the DVD.I just hope that the new film and DVD will be able to Satisfy all the Indy fans."

Comments

Woohoo! About time!

[nemui-chan]

I'm really happy they're finally coming out with the fourth movie. The rumors I've heard are that Harrison Ford will be the 'old Indiana' and he will be looking back on the adventures of his youth? Not sure how well thats going to work, but I'm sure that I'll be spending my money at the movies when it comes out.

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[taree]

Hope that Sean Connery will be the 'old old Indiana'.

Tarmo

In this episode . . .

[LazloToth]

Harrison Ford escapes from the old folks' home in his wheelchair and finds the Fountain of Middle Age in a Roman temple, where a 19-year-old nymphomaniac falls hopeless in love with him for 17 minutes and then he flies away in his airplane.

Re:In this episode . . .

[robogun]

Really! They have waited so long to do it, they might as well as forget about it. Harrison Ford *IS* Indiana Jones. It is a little late in his life cycle to try to pull off the rugged adventurer (although I recall Richard Chamberlain did Indiana ripoff "King Solomons Mines" at 55+).

Re:In this episode . . .

[Alan Partridge]

King Solomon's Mines is a fine, fine book by H Rider Haggard that hugely predates Indiana fucking Jones. that there's never been a decent version filmed is merely the fault of the studios involved. I'd recommend the book to anyone.

As far as Indiana's concerned - enough already! Raiders was a really enjoyable film, Temple of Doom was abominable, Last Crusade WORSE etc etc etc

Re:In this episode . . .

[Anonymous Coward]

...a 19-year-old nymphomaniac falls hopeless in love with him...

Calista Flockhart?

Re:In this episode . . .

[Jonner]

I've always found Last Crusade to be the most enjoyable. Yes, Temple of Doom was poor.

Re:In this episode . . .

[mikerich]

King Solomon's Mines is a fine, fine book by H Rider Haggard that hugely predates Indiana fucking Jones. that there's never been a decent version filmed is merely the fault of the studios involved. I'd recommend the book to anyone.

There would be some problems with it and a modern audience. Haggard was definitely a writer of his time, so there is a lot of talk about dark skinned savages and the like. It's much more racist than the likes of 'Tarzan' (another story which has never been done properly), so it would require some alteration for the modern era.

Why the BBC hasn't tried these stories is a good question - I was rather hoping their rather excellent 'The Lost World' would be the first of a series of classic 19th Century stories.

Naturally cuminating in a top notch costume drama version of 'The War of the Worlds'.

Best wishes,
Mike.

Re:In this episode . . .

[Alan Partridge]

On the subject of Indiana jones, can you explain to me exactly what happens with Indy and the submarine? it's baffled me since I was a boy...

Re:In this episode . . .

[Jonner]

Yes, I always thought it wasn't very well explained how he made it all the way to the base. I can only assume that it wasn't far from where he got on. Remember that diesel submarines are on the surface most of the time, so if it took a day or two to get there, they may not have submerged in that time.

Re:In this episode . . .

[Tenebrious1]

On the subject of Indiana jones, can you explain to me exactly what happens with Indy and the submarine? it's baffled me since I was a boy...

There was a comic book that came out shortly after the movie; IIRC, it showed Indy hanging out on the sail for most of the trip. While it was submerged he tied himself to the periscope.

U-boats and other WW2 subs ran mostly on the surface, even attacked while surfaced. Being designed with surface ship hulls, they could go much faster on the surface than under water running on batteries. They would go to periscope depth if they wanted to attack without being seen, and only go deep if they were being hunted. Since the sub was making a direct line to the island, they ran on the surface, and dropped to periscope depth just to avoid detection and detour around allied ships.

Re:In this episode . . .

[cpt kangarooski]

Indy used his whip to hang on to the periscope, and the U-Boat never went below periscope depth. Since the snorkels weren't added until years later, the U-Boat couldn't go far or fast while submerged, since it was running on crappy batteries instead of the primary diesel engine.

Or, God parted the waves or something for him.

The U-Boat eventually surfaced (which was typical -- they didn't stay under unless they were shooting or hiding), and while Indy would have had to avoid the deck spotters that would stand up there looking for other ships, he'd be somewhat more comfortable.

When they arrive at the base, he'd have to swim ahead of it to beat it there (remember, he's already hiding out there as the sub is arriving) but aside from having to avoid being seen, it wouldn't be amazingly difficult; the sub's entry into the base won't be at top speed or anything.

Anyway, the question of how Indy survived that isn't really the big plot hole. I want to know how they managed to get that giant, heavy crate with the Ark in it into the U-Boat. The hatches are not really all that big -- and Spielberg had actually used that as a joke in "1941" when some Japanese sailors have difficulty fitting a large radio set through the hatch.

Re:In this episode . . .

[macshune]

What? Callista Flockheart? Huh?

Re:In this episode . . .

[mechugena]

He said "19-year old nymphomanic", not "19 pound egomaniac" !

Re:In this episode . . .

[_xeno_]

I want to know how they managed to get that giant, heavy crate with the Ark in it into the U-Boat.

I think we can forgive that by assuming the boat was custom-made for the purpose of smuggling the Ark out. Since it was supposed to be such an important weapon in the Nazi armory, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume they did some custom work to safely ferry the Ark to whereever they took it. (I forget where the submarine base was supposed to be. No VHS player, let alone the movie itself.)

Besides, if we allow the Ark to be hidden in an Egyptian tomb and assume that the little light puzzle would still work even after three thousand or so years (guess Indy hit on the right day for that one), I think we can forgive a minor thing like a door being too small :)

Re:In this episode . . .

[Anonymous Coward]

Naturally cuminating in a top notch costume drama version of 'The War of the Worlds'.

Whatever gets you off, man.

Re:In this episode . . .

[Catbeller]

Hey, I think I've actually done something very much like that.

But, beware those 19 year old nymphomaniacs. They can take it out of a man.

Re:In this episode . . .

[Anonymous Coward]

I forget where the submarine base was supposed to be. No VHS player, let alone the movie itself.

Somewhere in the Aegean.

Re:In this episode . . .

[cpt kangarooski]

Slightly north of the eastern end of Crete.

Re:In this episode . . .

[Anonymous Coward]

Coincidentally, the protaganist of King Solomon's Mines, Allan Quatermain, is in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, played by Sean Connery, who played Dr. Jones the elder in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

Six degrees, baby!

Really?

[Matey-O]

and include just about every main character from the first three films.

Even the melted ones?

Re:Really?

[Anonymous Coward]

and include just about every main character from the first three films

I wonder if they're gonna bring back Alison Doodie, the very good looking Irish actress who played the I'm-not-really-a-Nazi Nazi archeologist in the third movie but hasn't appeared in anything noticeable since...

Re:Really?

[mcpkaaos]

Didn't appear in anything noticeable, eh?

I'm guessing that after such a box office smash as that, she hasn't had the need to find more acting jobs.

Bundle ?

[mirko]

Will there be a possibility to buy the episodes separately ?
I just don't watch the "extra features" they put in such bundles in order to justify the price difference (and I could spare money by avoiding the "Temple of doom" too).

Re:Bundle ?

[Biogenesis]

Well if you can't you will just have to go above the system and get the divx.

Re:Bundle ?

[mirko]

Exclusive sale of bundled goods is forbidden in Europe, and DivX ;-) don't look that good on a 42" plasma display.

Re:Bundle ?

[theFool]

Exclusive sale of bundled goods is forbidden in Europe, and DivX ;-) don't look that good on a 42" plasma display.

Ok, I bite. If you have a 42" plasma display... why care about a few extra dollars for a DVD?

Re:Bundle ?

[mirko]

Ok, I bite.
you don't need good teeth for that was not intended to be a troll.

If you have a 42" plasma display... why care about a few extra dollars for a DVD?
Because it is by sparing a few dollars here and there that I could spare enough to buy one.

Re:Bundle ?

[Alan Partridge]

"don't look that good on a 42" plasma display."

NOTHING looks good on a plasma display except flight arrival times. Plasma displays are bloody awful.

Re:Bundle ?

[mirko]

I kinda like mine : bigger than a telly, colorfull, a 3000:1 contrast.
It is IMHO better than an LCD-projector picture and more responsive than a TFT screen but we took it because it was cheap, it didn't imply paying TV taxes (no tuner inside) and it was also convenient to use and space saving.

Re:Bundle ?

[g0del]

Why? The average price for a dvd is $20, so buying all 3 separately would cost $60, $10 more than buying the bundle. And even if you were planning to skip "Temple of Doom", you would only be saving $10.

Re:Bundle ?

[mirko]

yep, but at list I won't fall in the consumerist logic : I won't pay a little more for something I don't want.

Yeah.,..

[Anztac]

"Harrison Ford can still kick the s**t out of most people half his age," Spielberg told us. "I think he's in great condition to put the fedora and the hat and the leather jacket back on and crack that bullwhip a few more times."

Yeah, but if he says "I'm getting to old for this shit" I may have to shoot him...

Re:Yeah.,..

[Jonsey]

...Spielberg told us. "I think he's in great condition to put the fedora and the hat and the leather jacket back on and crack that bullwhip a few more times."

Put on the hat first or second? Because we want to see the Fedora, not some other hat. : )

Re:Yeah.,..

[infinite9]

Yeah, but if he says "I'm getting to old for this shit" I may have to shoot him...


It's ok. One round with Calista Flockhart will cure him faster than that cup he chose wisely.

Re:Yeah.,..

[Anonymous Coward]

Why are the text ads for this topic, sexagenarian actor Harrison Ford for Wheelchairs?

Re:Yeah.,..

[matt2413]

He said that line in hollywood homicide...

Matt

Not again

[Anonymous Coward]

And then we will have Star Wars 7, Matrix 4, LOTR 4, Harry Potter 5....

I would rather have a single new original movie, instead of tons of the same old stuff.

Re:Not again

[Lord_Slepnir]

I dont know about Star Wars 7, but We won't have LOTR 4 (the books run out), we will have matrix 4 (they planned from the start to have a 5 movie series), and the contract for Harry Potter runs for 7 movies. What's dangerous is when a movie is created that isn't supposted to have a sequel, and one is later tacked on the end: IE, Rocky movies 2-17, CaddyShack II, and 90% of what disney has been creating rescently (Jungle Book 2, Cinderella 2, etc.)

Re:Not again

[ThinWhiteDuke]

I would rather have a single new original movie, instead of tons of the same old stuff.

Please, don't tell me you liked Hulk I!!!

Re:Not again

[Carbonite]

we will have matrix 4 (they planned from the start to have a 5 movie series)

Really? From what I understood, it was part of a pre-planned trilogy. Would you happen to have a sourec for this? I suppose that we could see another two sequels in a few years if Revolutions grosses as much as Reloaded.

Re:Not again

[Anonymous Coward]

Uhm, he said "original"... When there's a Hulk comic, followed by Hulk tv show, followed by Hulk movie, it's quite hard for my to classify the movie as original.

Same goes for Spiderman, X-Men, Batman, etc... I'm quickly growing tired of the lack of imagination in Holywood.

Re:Not again

[onthefenceman]

If the current trend of declining plot made up for with increasingly dazzling special effects, by the time these movies come out they'll just take your $8.50, give you a box of sparklers, and chase you around the theater a couple of times.

Re:Not again

[TopShelf]

I hear you - Police Academy II was such a letdown. I just can't watch the original the same way anymore...

Re:Not again

[swordgeek]

I recall from WAY back that Star Wars was originally going to be a nine-movie series, released in the order: 4,5,6,1,2,3,7,8,9. In other words, three mini-series, so to speak.

However, Lucas is getting older. Is he going to be around to film another three star wars movies after 2005, at the rate they've been going?

Re:Not again

[Anonymous Coward]

Star Wars 7: all the actors look like Yoda.

Re:Not again

[stinky wizzleteats]

I would rather have a single new original movie, instead of tons of the same old stuff.

We're in a rerun cycle, sort of like the late '80s. Just pray to whatever you hold dear that the pendulum doesn't carry us into a chick flick cycle, like the early '90s.

Re:Not again

[Anonymous Coward]

that was the initial plan, but instead the 7,8,and 9 movies were scrapped and they licensed out the characters for the novels, which share continuity with the movies and each other. I think they release about 40 new (crappy?) Star Wars books a year and therefore have no reason to release any more movies. The only reason that the prequel trilogy was made is because it is dumb to have 4,5, and 6 without the previous episodes.

Re:Not again

[Blondie-Wan]

A couple decades ago Lucas said he wanted to make it nine parts, with the last three films presumably about Luke training a new generation of Jedi, Han and Leia's kids, the rebuilding of the Republic, etc. (all of which has since been related in various novels, incidentally). However, it was also thought there would be a new movie every three years, so that after Episode VI: Return of the Jedi in 1983, we'd have gotten Episode I in 1986, Episode II in 1989, etc., on up to Episode IX in 2001. Somewhere along the way George Lucas realized he didn't want to spend his whole life constantly making Star Wars, and he took a break after Jedi and worked on other projects (while also rearing his kids). He's long since decided he'll just do the first three and then let the films stand at six episodes, apparently; he's said repeatedly in recent years he has no intention to go back and do VII, VIII and IX. He apparently wants to go back and do smaller, more experimental, less commercial sorts of films, and I for one hope he does; I'd be really interested in seeing those.

Re:Not again

[darthgoat]

And then we will have Star Wars 7, Matrix 4, LOTR 4, Harry Potter 5....

we will have harry potter 5 because the book which it will be based on just came out.

Re:Not again

[geekoid]

"CaddyShack II"

you had to mention that didn't you? not its in my head.Bastard.

How can one of the best movies spawn one of the worest? its just not right.

Re:Not again

[Snaller]

He could go out and make some smaller films and someone with talent could be allowed to make the new StarWars films.

Re:Not again

[Alan Partridge]

I just can't watch the original.

Re:Not again

[Alan Partridge]

it IS bad spelling

Re:Not again

[swordgeek]

Heh, George has talent. Unfortunately, he also has contracted a serious case of "Hollywood Hedging." It's easier for him to make large, boistrous, overblown movies that have little of interest in them, other than big stars, big musicians, and big production.

If he went to smaller movies, the talent that's been (mostly) buried for years might come out again. That would be cool.

Re:Not again

[blibbleblobble]

"We won't have LOTR 4 (the books run out)"

Not entirely true [back in The Shire], but the last chapter of the book isn't going to get filmed anytime soon.

Re:Not again

[Lord_Dweomer]

"but We won't have LOTR 4 (the books run out)"

Well, hate to burst your bubble, but while LoTR runs out...there is PLENTY of other Middle Earth material to drag out the LoTR brand. The most logical film after the trilogy would be The Hobbit. Then probably the Silmarillion, although that kinda reads like the torah...."and so and so begot so and so, who begot so and so...who betrayed so and so..." And then there's all the forgotten stories of Middle Earth. Trust me, the Tolkien run is FAR from over. I just hope they're all as well done as the LoTR trilogy.

Re:Not again

[mdielmann]

If the current trend of declining plot made up for with increasingly dazzling special effects, by the time these movies come out they'll just take your $8.50, give you a box of sparklers, and chase you around the theater a couple of times.

And you'll have been better off than if you had watched the last movie in just about any movie 'series'.

Re:Not again

[schlyne]

I wouldn't mind it if they got the major people that worked on LOTR to make the Hobbit though.

I'd imagine that won't happen, considering how many people they would have to coordinate to work on another film (Not so much actors, but as in the people who did costume design, digital, the director etc.)

Re:Not again

[Restil]

But they could do the Silmarillion. Although I doubt anyone would watch it if they did. It's a really tough book to follow, I can't imagine how they'd make a movie out of it. However, Blind Guardian made an album based on the events of that book, so who knows.

-Restil

Re:Not again

[thinduke]

What's dangerous is when a movie is created that isn't supposted to have a sequel, and one is later tacked on the end: IE...

Yes indeed, the world would definitely be a better place if Internet Explorer never had that much sequels.

Re:Not again

[multimed]

I gotta disagree with one thing--Rocky III was an excellent movie. The whole thing with him running into some one who's tougher & hungrier and actually getting beat, then having to adapt his style and learn a whole new way to fight, with the whole world against him again I thought was great. I thought II was unnecessary and everything after III stunk but Rocky III was almost as good as the original.

Re:Not again

[Stween]

I seem to recall hearing (long ago, and no, I don't have a link) that Keanu Reeves had signed up to do four films after the first Matrix film.

Of course, that was probably just a random rumour, and I'd think they'd be crazy to not finish the series off after the third film anyway.

Re:Not again

[G-funk]

'When I first heard that Marge was joining the police academy, I thought it would be fun and zany, like that movie... "Spaceballs". But instead it was dark and disturbing, like that movie "Police Academy"'.

Re:Not again

[khyron664]

As far as I know, the contract for the Harry Potter movies only goes to 3 or 4. The actors themselves only have contracts for up to 3 movies. There is serious doubt about whether all the Harry Potter books (of which there will be 7) will make it to film. If they try, they will probably have a cast shift somewhere in the middle of the movies which could hurt their popularity and liklihood of making it to 7.

Khyron

Re:Not again

[aeryn_sunn]

On the subject of Harry Potter...I am kinda of excited about the next one with the new director. Alfonso Cuaron. There will be probably be more than 7 Harry Potter movies, as for "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire", Chris Columbus is talking about coming back to direct it, but to do it in two films instead of one long one and releasing the two a month or so apart...This probably means that the latest Harry Potter book will also be a split film too...should be interesting who will direct that one.

Re:Not again

[Sabalon]

I seem to remember in some bio of Tolien that I read once that he did start a sequal to LotR - I thought it was called "The Return of the Shadow".

I could be wrong - it's been about 15 years since I read those bios. If he did, chances are it's in some Christopher Tolkien book somewhere. And even if it's just a paragraph, they just need to get someone who writes Stephen King movies based on his books - they usually only have about that much in common :)

Of course, they can still do The Hobbit, The Simarillion, Lost Tales, etc... :) Of course, technically they'd all be prequels.

Re:Not again

[Anonymous Cow herd]

Then probably the Silmarillion, although that kinda reads like the torah...."and so and so begot so and so, who begot so and so...who betrayed so and so..."

That's not the Torah, that's the Old Testament, fool!

Re:Not again

[the argonaut]

The Jews called it the Torah long before those pesky Christians came along with their less than stellar sequel and decided to re-name it the "Old Testament" to better fit their marketing plan.

Re:Not again

[JohnDoe69]

i agree...one or 2 sequals is ok...2 maybe pushing it unless its meant to be a trilogy or somthng..but just because there are no other ideas to resort to ruining a classic...i dont know about that

Mark Hamil?

[gpinzone]

I remember reading that Mark Hamil was talked about for playing Indiana's long lost evil brother. Any truth to it?

Re:Mark Hamil?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, Mark will be too busy filming the long-awaited sequel "Corvette Summer 2".

Re:Mark Hamil?

[gpinzone]

I wasn't joking.

Re:Mark Hamil?

[Talking Goat]

From above mentioned site:
Cast: Harrison Ford, Sean Connery (rumored), Kevin Costner (rumored), Tom Selleck (rumored), Mark Hammill (rumored)

Oh god, please. Magnum P.I. in Atlantis, sporting a Hawaiian shirt, lots of chest hair, and banging all the chicks before Indy can get his hand on them.

Re:Mark Hamil?

[ralico]

Then why not toss in William Shatner and David Hasselhoff?

Re:Mark Hamil?

[sharkey]

I remember reading that Mark Hamil was talked about for playing Indiana's long lost evil brother.

Yes, he tortures Indy and his dad by gargling Gershwin non-stop until Sallah shows up and smacks him with one of Brody's crutches.

Re:Mark Hamil?

[Guppy06]

What, and take time off from being the Joker in the Batman cartoons and Otto in Time Squad?

ehhh...

[aleksiel]

didn't they make a tv series about that? i seem to remember the young adventres of indiana jones on tv at some point in time. but i also remember rumors of the next movie being about [ominous]the spear of destiny[/ominous] or something like that

Re:ehhh...

[kasperd]

didn't they make a tv series about that? i seem to remember the young adventres of indiana jones on tv at some point in time.

That is right. I also saw a lot of the episodes.

Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[Karl Cocknozzle]

Indiana Jones will be using such popular consumer products as Geritol, Fix-a-Dent, Ben Gay, and Preperation H. The people representing those "Rascal" mobility scooters didn't put up enough cash to get into the movie.... Just as well, as the pace would be pretty slow with Harrison Ford buzzing along at a brisk 2 mph on one of those electric scooters.

Re:Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[Anonymous Coward]

Indiana Jones will be using such popular consumer products as Geritol, Fix-a-Dent, Ben Gay, and Preperation H. The people representing those "Rascal" mobility scooters didn't put up enough cash to get into the movie.... Just as well, as the pace would be pretty slow with Harrison Ford buzzing along at a brisk 2 mph on one of those electric scooters.

Could be worse... Imagine if Kamen decide to pay to have Indianna Jones ride a Segway?

Re:Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[Titusdot Groan]

Just as well, as the pace would be pretty slow with Harrison Ford buzzing along at a brisk 2 mph on one of those electric scooters.

2mph? You've obviously never had some cranky grandma run one of these things up your heels at the mall -- they to 6-7mpg easily!

Re:Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[Anonymous Coward]

Just for the benefit of those outside the US, what or who is Ben Gay? And if it's a who, is that a name or a way of life?

Re:Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[GunFodder]

Imagine how much Harrison Ford could make if he finally cut a deal with the Viagra people.

Re:Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[aeryn_sunn]

Funny you mention Preperation H...I sit so much reading through slashdot that I swear I have a 'roid...Oh, the pain!

Milking the franchise..

[grub]

Harrison Ford is a good actor, but come on.. he'll be sitting in his wheelchair with a blanket over his legs muttering to friends long dead while his diapers fill with turd.

Is it any wonder entertainment companies are losing cash? Don't blame piracy, blame the fact that they can hardly come up with a new idea among the lot of them.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[Bigby]

If you look at Clint Eastwood, he can still play great action characters. Great actors don't need to do difficult physical actions, even in an action movie.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[grub]

In a Eastwood flick (Bloodwork) he played an aging cop that had to go through a heart transplant. A bit more realistic than Harrison Ford one-handed swinging on vines in the jungle as he shoots the natives with his other hand.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[mpk]

Hey, be fair - Ford's 60, not 90, and in physical good nick. There's plenty of life in the old dog yet, although it does seem slightly bizarre to be doing film 4 now rather than several years ago. Perhaps it would be wise to cut back a bit on the acrobatics and write a plot that's suited to an older, wiser Indy (and if it's set in the 1950s, Indy will have aged about as much as Ford has since the Last Crusade), but writing people off just because they're nearly old enough to collect their pension's a bit unfair.

And hey, Ford now is about two years older than Roger Moore was when he last played James Bond in 1987.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[Anonymous Coward]

Roger Moore's last Bond movie was in 1985 (A View to a Kill)...

Re:Milking the franchise..

[Ineffable 27]

Bad example! I am a Roger Moore fan, but unfortunately he was past his sell-by date by the time he made A View To a Kill (1985, not '87). Which is one of the reasons why that one is arguably the worst of the series -- definitely in the bottom two. Did you know that Moore is older than Connery? (You'd think they'd have replaced Connery with a younger Bond actor huh?)

But Ford will be fine in the role. Can't wait for this!

Re:Milking the franchise..

[Anonymous Coward]

Um, that's not Indiana Jones... you're thinking of Pitfall(TM): The Movie.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[corbettw]

"And hey, Ford now is about two years older than Roger Moore was when he last played James Bond in 1987."

And don't forget, his "dad" Sean Connery is in an action film coming out in a few weeks, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. If Connery can still pull off an action-hero role, then Ford definitely can.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[osu-neko]

Aw, but A View To A Kill had one of the best villans. [Okay, so I'm a Christopher Walken fan.] Not to mention one of the best looking Bond girls ever to don a jumpsuit. Yes, the real problem was the retirement-age Bond. Well, that and the Bond who was almost campy, even in his earlier works. I think the only one I liked was Live and Let Die, more for Solitaire and the overall spooky feel than for Moore's debut...

Re:Milking the franchise..

[TheOrquithVagrant]

Eastwood is twelve years older than Ford. Look at what he was doing in the early 1990's for a fair comparison, not what he's doing now. Eastwood was only marginally younger than Ford is now when he did his last Dirty Harry movie. Not to mention The Unforgiven and In the Line of Fire, both in which Eastwood certainly acknowledges his characters' age, but still kicks serious ass.

Luck in three's?

[garcia]

What happened to the trilogies that have become so popular?

Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Star Wars (I refuse to count the three "newest" ones), etc.

While I am midly excited to see that this film is going to be released I don't see it as being popular. They are going to concentrate on large-scale special effects and less on the content (just like all recent films and sequels/pre).

That's my worthless .02

Re:Luck in three's?

[jellomizer]

Well I wouldn't say the Back to the Future is considered a good trilogy. The First Movie Was Good. The Second One was OK and the third was Dumb.

But if IJ and SW I think their appeal was the fact that they were Action Movies and the characters seemed believable and not over the top like todays movies (The Flying Yoda). Sure Luke had some force powers but it was usually limited to moving some small objects (The Return of the Jedi made Yoda seem to really concentrate to move the X-Wing) and some limited last minute extended super human tequniques that could almost be considered an endrenalon rush. But they were believable it is something you may see someone do in a circus or at a magic show.
in IJ Indiana, didn't have any super powered he was just creative, and resourceful and all the things he did were believable although probably nobody will survive it.
With all the special effects I feel we loose our emotional connection to the character we don't really care if he survives or not because we don't connect to the character they don't feel human they feel like a video game.
So Far the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter seem like they are good movies. (Although there are a lot of effects in these movies you don't see Grandalf throwing huge fireballs all the time, or Harry Potter racing a pod or constantly doing all the over the edge magic tricks) they try to use special effect a little more responcibibly then some of the other movies (Hulk and Matrix 2 comes to mind) Effects are good and all but using effects for effects sakes doesn't make a good movie. Effects should be used to make the movie more believable and forget that the people in the movie are actors in an fictional environment. I think Forest Gump had the best special effects because most of them were seamless and we didn't even think that they were special effects.

Re:Luck in three's?

[Anonymous Coward]

So Far the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter seem like they are good movies.

These movies were made to have sequels (as SW was) and they seem to have VERY large budgets and a LARGE fan base before the movie came out (nevermind after), that's why these movies are/will do well.

Indiana Jones has a fantastic fan base (IJ Lost Ark was the first movie I received on VHS) and will attract fans, but will it attract people that probably haven't seen it except in passing?

That's why I worry.

Re:Luck in three's?

[operagost]

Yoda was 900 years old and Luke was a neophyte. Of course they couldn't move anything easily. Meanwhile, Vader was ripping stuff off the walls with his telekinesis.

Re:Luck in three's?

[h0mer]

or Harry Potter racing a pod or constantly doing all the over the edge magic tricks
Yeah, because flying a broom, levitating a cake, making fire out of thin air, slaying a serpent, those are all things that are possible!

Re:Luck in three's?

[djward]

I agree. I'll see it, but since they went out on a good note with Last Crusade, they have a better than average chance of screwing it all up.

The ended with a good movie. No apology flick is needed (think Star Trek VI), so this is just a cash grab, and it will probably come off as such.

The optimist in me hopes not. But this is a Speilberg/Lucas venture. And those two have seriously gone downhill since the late 80's. As has Harrison Ford. And Sean Connery. So the pessimist in me is winning on this one.

Re:Luck in three's?

[fpp]

I disagree that this is strictly a cash grab. Lucas, Spielberg and Harrison have all said for years that they'd love to do another Indiana Jones film, because they have so much fun filming them. This is the one thing that I hear consistently when they talk about doing another movie, that they really enjoy making them. That, and they don't want to do it unless they have a really good script.

As for the two filmmakers going downhill since the late 80's....well, although I agree with you when it comes to Lucas, I'd say Spielberg has done some of his finest work in the last ten years. What about "Schindler's List", "Saving Private Ryan" and, to a lesser extent, "Minority Report"? Those were all wonderful films.

Re:Luck in three's?

[Guppy06]

Well, on the "bright" side, I don't see Michael J. Fox making a new BttF movie any time soon...

Reworked Scene in RotA

[LordYUK]

**Spoiler from the Downloaded Kazaa Version**

Remember that scene in the bazaar with the sword wielding Arabian dude, you know, the one who wants to slice Indy open like a frozen tauntaun?

Well, in the original Indy just blasts him with his pistol, however, in keeping with the whole "harrison ford shoots second" motiff, Spielburg has decided to let the sword guy swing at him.

This has the undesirerable side effect of Indy losing his left hand, which has been digitially removed and replaced with a walkie talkie. Years later in the fourth movie, Indy is replaced with a slightly (okay, an extremely) sexier version of himself as a woman, and must engage her in fights that involve her wrapping her legs around him that would leave most contortionists in wheelchairs, slightly before judgement day occurs...

oh, wait, wrong overdue sequel with a star way too old for the part...

Re:Reworked Scene in RotA

[Snaller]

oh, wait, wrong overdue sequel with a star way too old for the part...


Why is Schwartzenegger to old for the part? Doesn't turn you on anymore? Buy a porn movie. Not strong enough to throw terminators around, oh wait he's supposed to be a machine not a human.

Tsk tsk

Re:Reworked Scene in RotA

[Guppy06]

"Years later in the fourth movie, Indy is replaced with a slightly (okay, an extremely) sexier version of himself as a woman,"

At least that will never happen to Battlestar Galactica!

Oh, wait...

imdb forum

[millette]

The internet movie database already has a few hints in its forum

Re:imdb forum

[TheKey]

The imdb forum, no offense, has got to be the filth of the Internet. It really boggles my brain every time I go there.

Re:imdb forum

[JDevers]

As someone who utterly loves IMDB, I completely agree with your assessment of the forums. Sometimes when checking out the info on a movie or actor/actress I accidently see the titles of the last few postings to that particular discussion and immediately loose a few IQ points. It generally takes a few days to return to normal (in the case of T3, I wandered around aimlessly in the woods for a month...so you might want to be even more careful)

Re:imdb forum

[Snaller]

It's kids who use it. Very young immature kids. If you expect great prose you are sadly mistaken.

Re:imdb forum

[Stormie]

The imdb forum, no offense, has got to be the filth of the Internet.

You've never read the aintitcoolnews.com forums, have you? They make the IMDB forums look like Plato's Dialogues.

Aw no guys...

[Anonymous Coward]

"The movie looks like it will be set in the 1950s"

So no Nazis then?

Based on the existing trilogy, I just think you gotta have Nazis for it to work well, simply because of their obsession (in real life) with ancient artefacts and folklore... why not a 1940's mid-war Jones?

Re: Aw no guys...

[Black Parrot]

> > "The movie looks like it will be set in the 1950s"

> So no Nazis then? Based on the existing trilogy, I just think you gotta have Nazis for it to work well, simply because of their obsession (in real life) with ancient artefacts and folklore...

Supposedly Ford wants to play a Indy his actual age, so there wasn't much flexibility in the date.

Given the poplarity of I & III vis-à-vis II you can expect the key artifact to be another Judeo-Christian thingy. That means high probability of a setting in the Middle East.

In such a case you may see KGB agents instead of Nazis as the foils, though they could probably pretend there was some kind of ex-Nazi organization in the area for the movie's purposes.

I'd like to see them work in a satirical encounter with James Bond...

Re: Aw no guys...

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd like to see them work in a satirical encounter with James Bond...

Don't forget that James Bond is actually Jones's father...

Re:Aw no guys...

[gbjbaanb]

not necessarily - there have been many Secret South American conspiracies to bring about the 4th Reich after the war. Everyone knows Hitler is alive and well and living in Beunos Aires, don't they? :-)

I read one book (well, read is perhaps too strong for this) where the bad guys had Hitler's head in a icebox and were planning to transplant it onto the body of a specially bred hitler-youth type.

So.. plenty of scope for Nazis to appear in the next movie.

Re: Aw no guys...

[ePhil_One]

Given the poplarity of I & III vis-à-vis II you can expect the key artifact to be another Judeo-Christian thingy. That means high probability of a setting in the Middle East.

Well, if its the 50's, you could set it in Brazil; lots of Nazi's hiding out (and you could always go with the old "That wasn't Hitler it was a double"; there's old indian ruins and the like, and if the Nazi's were collecting Judeo-Christian artifacts, they might have taken some with them to Brazil.

Re:Aw no guys...

[DavidTC]

Even disregarding the age issue, Spielberg basically decided he didn't want to do any 'cartoon Nazis' after he did Schindler's List.

As a 60 year old Ford would look fairly surreal playng someone who is, at most, 5 years older than the guy in the first movie, it's no big loss.

In fact, the newest Indiana games already graduated to postwar time, and he's now fighting the Russians.

Re:Aw no guys...

[Kotukunui]

Nazi's can certainly be included.

Have the Nazi forces searching for some ancient relic that will cause Hitler to rise again in the 1950's. Its up to Indy to stop them.

Weak, I know, but then I'm not really a screenwriter.

I'm just saying that Nazi's still existed after WWII. They just didn't wave the flag in public.

Indy #4

[6hill]

the next Indiana Jones Move (tentatively titled 'Indiana Jones 4')

I sincerely hope that was sarcasm on the orginal submitter's part, or else Hollywood has lost the last of the small amount of creativity it has (arguably) had. "We're making the fourth Indy Jones flick, so what shall we call it? Something witty and imaginative...wait, it's coming to me. I know! Let's call it 'Indiana Jones 4'!"

Re:Indy #4

[Anonymous Coward]

Ummm...you do realize the studios usually don't actually name the movie until they're mostly through production, right? They use working titles until Marketing comes up with a spiffy name...

Re:Indy #4

[Anonymous Coward]

I assume they didn't know the difference between a tentative title and a working title, in the vein of "Bond 20"

Re:Indy #4

[Overly Critical Guy]

The real question is, what part of the meaning of "tentatively" do you not understand?

Re:Indy #4

[digtl88]

Well it doesn't come out for another two years so i think they have plenty of time to come up with a catchy name.

Re:Indy #4

[Qeantk]

That is my question for you, as well. Tentaviley would mean they are actually thinking about calling it that. Perhpas you confused tentatively and tmeporariliy?

Re:Indy #4

[Qeantk]

Heh, man I can't type for crap.

Re:Indy #4

[cvas]

I was hoping it would be: 4 Indy 4 Jones. But that's just me.

Re:Indy #4

[Anonymous Coward]

The final title will, of course, be: "Indiana Jones Forever"

Re:Indy #4

[osu-neko]

IJ4 -- and Wil Smith will be playing his new sidekick...

(Wait a minute -- that's not an entirely bad idea...)

Re:Indy #4

[Overly Critical Guy]

Or use a dictionary properly. Look up "tentatively" sometime.

Re:Indy #4

[Anonymous Coward]

Why don't YOU look up "tentatively" sometime. Idiot.

Re:Indy #4

[Overly Critical Guy]

tentative (tnt-tv) adj.

1. Not fully worked out, concluded, or agreed on; provisional: tentative plans.
2. Uncertain; hesitant.

Anyone else wishing to be schooled today?

Godfather DVD's are out already...

[Faeton]

The Godfather DVD's are out, as a 5 disc trilogy set. It was released a year and a half ago, about $80 US.

I guess they could be meaning that they only wanted Godfather I and Godfather II as single DVD's, rather than pay for the full box set. True, Godfather III was not up to par with the other 2 movies, but it was far from "bad". It was more in the "not as good" department.

Anyways, good to see that they'll be FINALLY coming out with the DVD's. Now just get Lucas off his fat ass and get StarWars out!

Re:Godfather DVD's are out already...

[WC as Kato]

This is a good tie-in for the latest Indiana Jones flick where Indy teams up with the Godfather to fight communism for the CIA. "Indiana Jones and the Godfather vs. Cuba"

Re:Godfather DVD's are out already...

[josh6179]

I think the poster was alluding to the fact that most people, including myself, only like Godfather I & II and aren't going to be forced into buying the box set. Personally, I refuse to buy the box set because it is way over-priced. It works out to approx. $27 per movie! There is only one extra disk (which doesn't amount to much material over 3 movies) in the set which does not justify the extra cost. Comparatively, the Indiana set works out to $17 per movie. A much better deal all in all.

Re:Godfather DVD's are out already...

[trikberg]

At $80 you are paying way too much.

I paid just below 50, which was about the same in $US. amazon.co.uk is currently selling the 5-disc set at £24.99 (plus postage) which should be just over 40$US.

Re:Godfather DVD's are out already...

[indead]

I paid $30 at a used shop. Which I thought of as a fine deal. Check out your used dvd stores people, all the ones in my area have at least one copy of the Godfather box set for cheap.

slow release

[bongobongo]

the dvd set is way off.... november!! ?!?!? personally, i'm more excited about the version made by 12 year-olds anyway

Preorder for cheap + Useful Link

[calebb]

You can preorder the Indiana Jones Trilogy for $44.95 at Bestbuy.com. I didn't link directly to their product page to avoid looking like I'm trying to make some $$$ on referrals. However, you can click through your favorite 'hot deals' website if you preorder & still get it for $44.95 while earning them a few cents in the process; Or just go to their website and search for "Indiana DVD" and it will be the top two links FYI: The Widescreen edition SKU is 5721463 & the Full Screen SKU is 5721454.

And don't forget to check out Spielberg Films for fairly up-to-date news.

From their Temple of Doom page: It looks like the news previously reported regarding extra features on the fourth disc of the INDY set was on the money as the bonus disc will include documentaries on "The Making of the Trilogy", "The Sound and Music of Indiana Jones", "The Special Effects of Indiana Jones" and "The Stunts of Indiana Jones".
DVDFile says the "Making Of" doc will be a "new full-length documentary", so its safe to assume that the documentary will be a substantial, feature-length look at the making of the trilogy.
No word is made about deleted scenes, but amazon.com's spec list did state they would be present. Judging by the accuracy of the other extras they named, things are pointing to their inclusion, but you never know until the discs is in our grubby hands.

Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw ?

[bigmouth_strikes]

As long as they don't bring back that little annoying kid in the Yankee cap in Temple Of Doom.

Re:Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw ?

[Ozan]

As long as they don't bring back that little annoying kid in the Yankee cap in Temple Of Doom.

I want short-round in the next movie. Played by Yun-Fat Chow. Wouldn't that be something?

Re:Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw ?

[Woody]

Oh, come ON - "No time for love Doctor Jones!" That's one of the best lines in a movie ever...

Re:Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw ?

[ClarifyAmbiguity]

Hell, why not let the original, Jonathan Ke Quan, play Short Round? He apparently has done some acting and/or stunt work since [i]Temple of Doom[/i].

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[Ratphace]

Well, actually the plot is a closely guarded secret at this point, and I am glad.

Sean Connery will be in it as Indiana's Father again and the movie is being set in the 1950's to account for Harrison's aged real life look which cannot be entirely hidden on camera.

I believe they are having the women of his life make cameo's and such, though Karen Allen is the only one that I'd personally like to see in it as Spielberg's wife (Kate Capshaw) just annoys the hell out of me! :)

Anyway, my prediction is this: (and this is entirely me guessing, but I am putting it down here now as proof that I said it before the plot was learned)

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis (yes, like the original PC game that came out years ago)

Why do I predict this? Because Atlantis as a real location still fascinates people around the world today, in fact I was watching Discovery Channel the other night about people that are currently looking for it and clues they have found and such. I mean, let's face it, he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already, it's time for him to find something bigger. :)


I guess in the end only time will tell but I thought that I would give you that tidbit at the top about who will be who and why the movie is being set in the 1950's.


P.S.
For all your Indiana Jones Fans out there, in case you missed it (as I am sure most have) in the The Temple of Doom, when Harrison jumps out of the hotel at the beginning with Kate Capshaw and they fall into the car and drive past the entrance to the club that they just ran from, well, the big hidden George Lucas "Easter Egg" is the club is named "Club Obi Wan" (from Star Wars yet had an oriental ring to it) :)
Cheers!

The Title?

[banana fiend]

How about some suggestions: I'll kick start y'all Indiana jones and his old bones Indiana jones and jar-jar: the early years

Youth?

[b1t r0t]

Well, if the problem is that Harrison Ford is getting to old, then we need to find someone younger. Who better than a young star of movies with "and the" in the title?

Yes, folks, get ready for Harry Potter and the Temple of Doom!

Re:Youth?

[arivanov]

Nope.

More likely the chap whose name starts with Jar, continues with Jar and ends with Binks.

Considering the popularity of the Star Wars prequels such casting does should not be entirely unexpected.

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, folks, get ready for Harry Potter and the Temple of Doom!

No... it will be Raiders of the Lost Box Office

At first, they'll release it only on VHS and claim that there will never be a DVD version. And then, once VHS sales have subsided, they'll release a DVD version.

But thank goodness for video rental and DeCSS. I got sick of this the first time around.

Re:Youth?

[Surak]

Excerpt from the script: (SPOILERS):

Arabian dude with sword: Twirls sword around, brandishing it menacingly.
Jar Jar: Meesa goin' to da Temple of Doom to find da Lost Ark! Yeah, that's meesa gonna do!
Indiana Jones: Looks at Arabian dude with sword.
Indiana Jones: Looks at Jar Jar.
Indiana Jones: Shoots Jar Jar and takes his chances with Arabian dude.

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Jar Jar jokes haven't been funny for at least a year now. Move out of your mother's basement and give it up.

Re:Youth?

[digtl88]

If they wait any longer they are gonna have trouble making him look younger with makeup and editing.

Re:Youth?

[Ratphace]

Personally, I would rather see the series retired before they bring in someone else.

Indiana Jones is not a "James Bond" type that you just pass the reigns on to. Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple.

I mean, they have kept the "timeline" of when the movie takes place moving, so it makes passing the reigns harder, whereas James Bond is a 'contemporary character' that is always just played in 'modern times' (i.e. when the file is shot to be in line with how we live our lives at that time).

But seeing the series retired after Harrison Ford retires from acting would be the right thing to do...

Re:Youth?

[parliboy]

Hey, if this means we're going to sacrifice Hermione by ripping out her heart and showing it to her while it's still beating, I'm up for it!

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

How about "Indiana Jones and the Chamber of Secrets"?

Re:Youth?

[Jester99]

Right before "Shoots Jar Jar," you forgot the line:

Indiana Jones: Realizes he has only one bullet left in gun. :)

Re:Youth?

[swordgeek]

Hmm. I saw "Hermione," "ripping her," and "showing" in the same sentence and came up with an image of her pleated little school uniform...

Um, nevermind. Forget you read this.

Re:Youth?

[andyt]

But in the Special Edition version, Jar Jar shoots first!

Re:Youth?

[jgalun]

Indiana Jones is not a "James Bond" type that you just pass the reigns on to. Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple.

I hear what you are saying, but I would argue that James Bond is not a type that you can just pass the reigns on to either. None of the successors have come even close to having the charisma that Sean Connery did in the role. And without the incredible charisma (which is the same thing Harrison Ford provides to Indiana Jones), it's just a bunch of bad plots and gadgets...

Just my two cents.

Re:Youth?

[geekoid]

"Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple. "

haha, I've heard that about every Bond Actor.

If they placed a different actor, and made a good movie, you may not like it but the next generation wold.

Re:Youth?

[Alan Partridge]

...except for "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", which is actually rather good. Sure, Connery LOOKS good, but the Bond films he stars in are absolute DRIVEL.

Lazenby may be slightly cheesy, but at least the man can FIGHT!

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

But seeing the series retired after Harrison Ford retires from acting would be the right thing to do...

Which means we'll be seeing Ben Affleck as Indiana Jones in the 5th movie I suppose. Hollywood whores. :-)

Re:Youth?

[DavidTC]

The correct thing to do, of course, would be to introduce his son in this movie.

You either set it 20 years later, and cast a young adult, or set it 10 years later, and cast a kid, and that lets you recast the role later. (Remember, this is all happening in the past, so they can just skip a decade in the timeline.)

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Hmm. I saw "Hermione," "ripping her," and "showing" in the same sentence and came up with an image of her pleated little school uniform...

Um, nevermind. Forget you read this.


Forget? Hell, I'll be thinking of that for days...

Time to buy some Hermione hentai off eBay.

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

burn in a pit

Re:Youth?

[I_M_Noman]

I've heard that about every Bond Actor

...and every Doctor. I mean, you couldn't find seven more different types than William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy (I'm not including Paul McGann or Peter Cushing because they were only in movies).

Re:Youth?

[multimed]

As a huge fan of the franchise I'll respectfully disagree. Though I hated Roger Moore for playing it too cartoonish, I did like Daulton--though certainly lacking the charisma of Connery I found his playing the role as much more serious, darker and ruthless to be interesting as well and more like the 007 from Fleming's books. Of course the box office numbers show that just about everyone else disagrees with me. I do find Brosnan to be nearly up to par with Connery in terms of charisma (especially considering many of Connery's best lines would never fly today because they'd be too offensive). All he really is lacking is the physical presence that Connery had.

While the same could be said for the Indy series, the reason that the Bond series has been able to continue as long as it has is in large part due to the consistency of the behind the scenes producers. Cubby Broccoli produced everything through License to Kill with his daughter Barabara and step-son Michael Wilson taking over for the rest after years of on-the-job training from their father.

Re:Youth?

[trotski]

Sean Connery was LOUSY! Roger Moore was by far the best James Bond.

Re:Youth?

[1u3hr]

Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple.

In the Young Indiana Jones TV series, there were three actors playing the role: Corey Carrier, ages 8 to 12, Sean Patrick Flanery, 17 to 21 and George Hall in his 90s. I thought Flanery was quite good...

Re:Youth?

[Stonent1]

...and every Doctor. I mean, you couldn't find seven more different types than William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy (I'm not including Paul McGann or Peter Cushing because they were only in movies).

Colin Baker? He always made a better bad guy than a Doctor. Maxil was a jerk, but I'm trying to remember him in another role, where he played a bad guy (Maybe Blake 7?) that wore a black body suit.

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Sean Connery's speech impediment ruins every movie is in. Get the man a therapist.

Re:Youth?

[darth_MALL]

That's "The Rapist"

Re:Youth?

[osu-neko]

Actually, there were four actors who played the role in that series: In one of the Young Indy episodes, the opening/ending sequence (where Indy talks to someone else, and sets of the "flashback" that's the meat of the episode) takes place during the 50's rather than the 90's, and thus instead of the usual dose of George Hall we got Harrison Ford. As I recall, he stops the badguys using a saxaphone...

Re:Youth?

[Razor Blades are Not]

Isn't that really Therapisht ?

--Bond, Jamesh Bond.

Re:Youth?

[takotech]

Buck Futter!

Re:Youth?

[Guppy06]

"But seeing the series retired after Harrison Ford retires from acting would be the right thing to do... "

Yes, it is. But keep in mind we're talking about MPAA members here.

Re:Youth?

[Trurl's Machine]

Indiana Jones is not a "James Bond" type that you just pass the reigns on to. Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple.

It's quite ironic you mention Bond, because - according to one Lucas biography - the whole movie has begun as a sort of James Bond for the New Hollywood. Spielberg always wanted to direct a Bond movie, but the Bond producers were of the "old guards" and did not trust much younger Spielberg. Spielberg once complained about it to Lucas, and his reply was "Steven, have you ever heard of the Arc of Covenant?" (I repeat this story after one book on Lucas; I wasn't there when they had this crucial conversation ;-)).

Re:Youth?

[ralphclark]

Moore was the best *conedy* James Bond, right enough. And arguably, those comedy Bonds were the most entertaining. That last one with Brosnan in it was shite.

Re:Youth?

[ralphclark]

Well, I agree with *you*. Dalton's stage acting experience (as an RSC player) made for a much more realistic character. Crikey, you even saw him get angry and almost lose control, which is something you don't generally see Bond do. Now Connery was mainly just a pretty face, he couldn't really act worth a fart.

Having said all that the Bond movies I enjoyed the most were the Roger Moore ones. This was the era when they really began the tradition of Extremely Implausible Escapes From Certain Doom. Remember tbe opening scenes from The "Spy Who Loved Me", where these baddies chase him right over the edge of a cliff on top of a mountain and you think: "crap, get out of THAT!" ... and then his parachute opens and it's a giant Union Flag. Though I suppose that got a bigger laugh in the UK than it did in the US...

Re:Youth?

[Jbrecken]

The correct thing to do, of course, would be to introduce his son in this movie.

He could just formally adopt Short Round, and let him take over the family business.

Re:Youth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, she IS a cutie, but that's going a little far...

Re:Youth?

[Sethus]

I dunno, with all the old characters coming back, I'd love to see Jar-Jar fight the guy who rips out hearts :D

Oh wait, he died didn't he? Just our luck...

Re:Youth?

[Weirsbaski]

Well, if the problem is that Harrison Ford is getting to old

Maybe he'll go back for the holy grail again. Not for his father, but for his own personal use.

Re:Youth?

[Oaktree_b]

I actually didn't mind the guy that played indy in his teens/twenties in the "Young Indiana Jones" Chronicles. His name escapes me, Sean something I think. He could pull Indy off quite well actually. But please no Jar Jar! Bring Sallah back, he's classic.

Re:Youth?

[TekPolitik]

Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple

Except when River Pheonix is Indiana Jones, of course. And then there's the TV series "Young Indiana Jones", in which the character was played, at various ages, by Sean Patrick Flanery, Corey Carrier, and George Hall. Connery's character was played by Lloyd Owen. There were also a bunch of TV movies.

Re:Youth?

[Drunken Buddhist]

I'll take anal bum covers for 500, alex.

^_^ I'll never get tired of the sean connery character in SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy.

Re:Youth?

[Blondie-Wan]

They have, of course, had five different actors as Indiana Jones already, not including stand-ins and stunt doubles:

Corey Carrier (as Indy around age 8 to 11)

River Phoenix (as Indy about 13)

Sean Patrick Flanery (as Indy from 16 to early 20s)

Harrison Ford (as Indy from his 30s to his 50s)

George Hall (as Indy in his 90s)

Re:Youth?

[I_M_Noman]

Colin Baker? He always made a better bad guy than a Doctor

Funny -- he's my favorite Doctor. They say that your first Doctor is your favorite Doctor, but I started watching in the Tom Baker era and he's my least favorite. Go figure.

Re:Youth?

[Ratphace]

Didn't River Phoenix die years ago to a drug overdose or something on a street corner?

Tomb Raider

[Bigby]

They need to make the movie "Indiana Jones meets Lara Coft". That would be one hell of a movie. Then they can get married at the end of the movie... That would appeal to men and women (action, thought provoking, hot chick, chick flick, etc...).

Don't you mean...

[Rorgg]

Harry Potter VIII? The planned run of the series is 7 books.

Re:Don't you mean...

[birder]

The 8th will be Harry looking back on the adventures of his youth....

Re:Don't you mean...

[Anonymous Coward]

Clip Show!!!!

Yeah they'll use computer generated images

[wadiwood]

They're nearly cheaper than real actors and can be reverse aged more easily.

So I imagine (commences pure fiction) they could use a youthful actor to body double for Harrison and the rest, and paste in Harrison's face scraped from anything he's made where he looks less cragfaced (Star Wars 1977 mode?).

Melted characters could easily be returned this way also. Just like in soap operas. In fact if you've been melted and revived, you'd have to have had lots of plastic surgery right?

So lets have indiana jones and the last unicorn, fight the gremlins in the kremlin...

And that's my final fantasy.

Nope, the melted one just died...

[calebb]

Well, at least one of them did:

Phillip Stone (I)
14 April, 1924 - 15 June, 2003
Captain Blumburtt, Temple of Doom
Source

...At least I think he ended up in the pit - I haven't watched Temple of Doom in a long time.

In the words of Short Round

[Zabu]

Uh Oh -- Big Mistake!


cited

New Title Suggestions

[bc8o8]

How about
"Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Retirement Home"
or
"Indiana Jones: The Temple of Viagra"
or
"Indiana Jones: The Last Erection"

Re:New Title Suggestions

[digtl88]

you should submit them to Saturday Night Live...they could make some funny skits off those titles.

Re:New Title Suggestions

[malelder]

SNL makes funny skits? (:

Re:New Title Suggestions

[Anonymous Coward]

What about

Indiana Jones: Search for the Lost Hip Joint

Indiana Jones and the Nursing Home of Doom

Re:New Title Suggestions

[Cplus]

Not since the early nineties my friend.

Re:New Title Suggestions

[White Roses]

Yes, they could. If we were still in the 1970s.

Re:New Title Suggestions

[Anonymous Coward]

"Indiana Jones and the lost WMD"

Re:New Title Suggestions

[Sabalon]

In Hollywood Homicide with Harrison:

If I took the gingko, I could rememeber where I put my viagra.

Re:New Title Suggestions

[haggar]

Stop it already :o) I'm laffing too hard, waking up the neighbors

Godfather

[EyesWideOpen]

These films have to be one of the most requested DVD releases (probably next to... the first two 'Godfather' movies) ever.

All of the Godfather movies are currently available on DVD. I have the box set.

Re:Godfather

[Anonymous Coward]

And they were requested a lot, then released.

The Inside Scoop

[wynterwynd]

The villan from this one will be Interpol, tracking Indiana down for 20 years worth of smuggling national treasures to sell to museums. High adventure ensues in U.S. Extradition Court, as Indy faces his greatest nemesis, Warren "Eyepatch" Fineburg, a ruthless UN junior legal secretary with a jaunty BLACK fedora and a bullwhip-like fountain pen. Indy's only hopes for exoneration lies in a ragtag legal team consisting of a whiny showgirl, an ex-Russian general turned Hindu monk, and a sassy orangutan lawyer. Indy will need all his skill and luck to survive the climactic out-of-court settlement on the ledge of the courthouse clock tower!


I trusted my heart to you once Lucas, and you let me down. I'll approach this with appropriate levels of guarded enthusiasm.

Wynter

Re:The Inside Scoop

[paulcammish]

I trusted my heart to you once Lucas, and you let me down...

Ahem... Spielberg is the Indy man, Lucas is the Star Wars man.

Ok, ok. So hes writing it, but someone else is doing the screenplay, so hopefully we wont see him have a pet Gungan or something...

Re:The Inside Scoop

[apetime]

Indy's only hopes for exoneration lies in a ragtag legal team consisting of a whiny showgirl, an ex-Russian general turned Hindu monk, and a sassy orangutan lawyer.

Don't forget, he'll have Ally Mcbeal there too.

Re:The Inside Scoop

[madro]

All Indy needs to do is hire Johnny Cochrane and call for a favor from an old friend (in another genre) ...

"Ladies and gentleman, this is Chewbacca ..."

So long as there is shorty...

[SuperDuG]

I remember it's been my lifelong goal to have a witty young boy drive my car and call me "Doctor Jones! Doctor Jones! Doctor Jones!"

If I can have that, then my life will truly be complete.

Indiana Jones and modern myth

[photomic]

Lets hope Spielberg learned something from Lucas about fiddling with modern myths. There was always something pure and heroic about the Indiana Jones movies (okay, pt. 2 was a little thin). These movies stand up in ways that make your kids want to watch them over and over. When I compare the third installments of IJ vs. SW, there are big differences: One reinforces the good qualities of the story; one degrades them. Proof: My daughter will watch the original SW and IJ over and over again, yet she has no desire to see the "new" SWs more than once at the theater. Ford is good enough to make sure IJ goes out with dignity, I hope.

Terminology Catastrophe Warning

[aziraphale]

"the First three films in the Indiana Jones Trilogy will be released"

Since, in any rational universe, a trilogy doesn't have a 'first three films', shouldn't that be the 'increasingly inaccurately named Indiana Jones Trilogy'?

Re:Terminology Catastrophe Warning

[hetairoi]

Maybe Spielberg is a big Douglas Adams fan.

Re:Terminology Catastrophe Warning

[xneilj]

Still has some to go before it surpasses the other well known 'trilogy in five parts'

Re:Terminology Catastrophe Warning

[Justatroll]

Heh, maybe he learned the term "trilogy" from Douglas Adams

Re:The sad thing..

[Anonymous Coward]

No, Sean Patrick Flanery played Indy in the tv series. River Phoenix played Young Indy in The Last Crusade (the part showing the origin of the scar on his chin).

What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[CaptRespect]

Since Indy drank from the Cup of Life in the last movie, isn't he immortal now? What kind of plot is that going to make? Is he going to meet up with the Highlander or something?

Seriously, if he can't be killed and is he just going to walk up to the main Nazi bad guy and shoot him?

Or maybe I got the last movie all wrong.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[darrad]

You have to remember the plot of the last movie. The price for being immortal was you had to stay inside the seals at the door of the chamber. Since he left the Chamber of the Grail, the immortality is no longer in effect.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Anonymous Coward]

He's only immortal if he doesn't cross the seal (which he did [actually she did], hence earthquake).

The two brothers who left earlier had died, hence their tombs held the map to the grail site.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Anonymous Coward]

"You have chosen wisely. But the Grail cannot pass beyond the great seal. That is the boundary and the price of immortality."

You are only immortal within the resting place of the Grail. Since Indiana and his Dad both stepped beyond the seal, they are no longer immortal.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[3h]

Drinking from the Grail did not make you immortal (it had only healing power), you had to drink from it constantly to live forever. And because Grail had to stay inside, you only could live forever in that cave.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[GeckoUK]

However the two knights that left the grail after drinking from it then lived to be over 200 years old.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Anonymous Coward]

No... they lived to be 200 years old and THEN left the temple. The people that found them just said they lived to be 200, not that they hung around the village for 200 years.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[teh*fink]

it's not just that. you have to continually drink from the grail in order to be immortal; that was the impression i got.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Richard_at_work]

Rather the cup had to remain within the chamber, and you had to keep drinking from the cup to be immortal. No cup no immortality.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[E-Rock-23]

Everybody got the Great Seal part right. But the Immortality granted by the Grail wasn't really erased once the person stepped beyond the Seal. The third Knight said "But the Grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal. That is the boundry, and the price of immortality."

As long as you drank from the grail, immortality qualified. But the Seal prevented one from drinking from the Grail elsewhere. Immortality was limited by the Seal because the Grail was. When Ilsa took the Grail past the Great Seal, that's when shiat hit the fan. Not when Indy crossed it. Since the Grail was lost forever, the immortality granted by drinking from it constantly went bye bye as well.

I hate to sound nitpicky, but I just thought I'd clear that up.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[DavidTC]

I don't think the Grail made anyone 'immortal'. I think it simply subtracted a day off their life, or made the current day not count, or however you want to put that.

So, as the Grail couldn't pass beyond the seal, and you had to drink from it every day to remain the same age, it meant you either had to live in the cave or right next to it to not die.

The real question was how the Grail couldn't pass beyond the seal...was there a forcefield or something? We didn't see anything like that, just an earthquake that the Grail fell into.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Anonymous Coward]

Rather the cup had to remain within the chamber, and you had to keep drinking from the cup to be immortal.

Proposed title for fourth film: Indiana Jones and the Really Long Straw.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[djlowe]

Well, in light of the fact that Indiana drank from the Grail, and further considering that he used it to heal his father's wound - and such healing wasn't reversed once they left... I'd say that the effect of the Grail is "limited immortality", a complete heal, as it were, although not complete rejuvenation (Note the visably aged appearance of the knight guarding the Grail Room). As a result, any internal damage that either had experienced from their aging, including disease, up until that point, would be nullified, although their exterior appearance would not necessarily be effected (again, considering the knight's appearance).

Since both Indiana and his father benefitted, one could make the argument that such would, simply as a side effect, grant them exended life and vigor, if not the appearance of such, even though it didn't release them from the effects of aging that would naturally resume later.

This would have the beneficial side effect (from an RL perspective) of not having to overly rectify the current ages and appearance either of Harrison Ford or Sean Connery in their roles - their appearance NOW would suffice, and IMHO, would even lend a degree of realism to the movie.

Set the next film in the 40's, 50's, or even the 60's: Both are remarkably vigorous in RL, and, their age and appearance in RL would merely be the natural result in the next film of their characters having lived that time between the last film and the next, while aging normally as time passed.

An easy solution to the "age issue", I think, and a satisfying one, all around: Both Indiana and Henry could easily still be vigorous in all ways, and capable of physical feats that one would might not normally associate with two men "past their prime" (the latter in quotes, because, of course they'd be deemed such in terms of years, and perhaps by appearance, but not practically, since they'd be able to do things that would task far younger men, because of the Grail's benefit).

Just my opinion.

dj

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[osu-neko]

Yes, but did they age more slowly after having left, or did they just hang around there for 60 years or so, then leave and age normally (but make it to 200 because they'd spent 50 years before not aging at all)?

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Locmar]

There will be no main Nazi badguy: after Schindler's List, Spielberg has vowed to never use Nazis as lighthearted villains again. Luckily, setting the fourth movie in the 50s gives him access to Commies, who are arguably almost as good at being cinematic badguys as Nazis. Almost.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[tompaulco]

If you are going to suspend belief enough to believe that a cup can make you immortal, I think you should be able to suspend belief enough to believe that the cup can trigger an earthquake with no visible physical trigger.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[awkwardone]

In the beginning of the movie, Walter Donovan talks about how one of the Knights of the Holy Grail recounted his story to a Frenchman before dying of "extreme old age". That might imply that the Knight had drunk from the cup and been able to live longer. But since making the long, long journey across the desert, he had not used it. So he would have prolonged his life enough to live back in France for some time, tell his story, and die.

So it did not make one "immortal". Rather, it simply healed and extended one's life.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Anonymous Coward]

you only could live forever in that cave

Something tells me that the majority of /. posters wouldn't have much of a problem with that.

Digital, please

[Anonymous Coward]

Please George Lucas, in the name of Howard The Duck, make Spielberg shoot the movie digitally. The stone age is over.

Re:Digital, please

[__aamkky7574]

Please, Mr Spielberg, do not take any moviemaking advice from Mr Lucas. Certainly not to the extent that you are so enamoured about special effects that you forget likeable characters, lively acting and keeping emotions and humanity at the heart of the story.

P.

Re:Digital, please

[iainl]

"Please George Lucas, in the name of Howard The Duck, make Spielberg shoot the movie digitally. The stone age is over."

Please Steven Spielberg, in the name of Jaws, don't listen to anything that hack Lucas says about digital filmmaking.

What's that? You already think he's sorely mistaken on the CCD vs 35mm argument, and have sailed as close to calling your best mate an idiot about it as you could? Good. Film looks like film. Digital looks completely different.

Wrong

[Picass0]

River played Indy in a flashback scene at the begining of the 3rd film. There was never any discussion of him replacing Ford.

Sean Patrick Flanery was Indy on the TV series. There was never any discussion of him replacing Ford either.

Being that this film will be in the 1950's, Indy will be older, so Harrison Ford will play him again.

The unfortunate side effect is Short Round is likely to show up wondering why Dr.Jones stopped paying child support.

Think about it....

[bc8o8]

If the new Indiana Jones movie takes place in the 1950's, then Ford will be just about exactly the right age to play the part. The trilogy took place around the 30's and were recorded about 15-20 years ago. Indy was about 30-35 ish then, which would make him in his 50's for in the 1950's. Granted he is a little old to be running around with a wip, but remember... he DID drink from the Grail and he is now immortal!!

**By the way rumor has it, Sean Connery will also return as Indy's dad**

Re:Think about it....

[EllF]

Indiana was only immortal in the actual hall of the grail. That is why the knight who guarded the grail was able to stay alive for so long, but never leave the hall -- the grail's gift of immortality did not extend past the seal on the floor.

Re:Think about it....

[DavidTC]

No, the Grail didn't extend past the seal on the floor, and you had to drink from it every day to stay the same age.

Indy presumably skipped a day aging when he drank out of the Grail, but resumed aging the next day when he didn't drink from it again.

Re:Think about it....

[EllF]

Hmm. The knight inside the hall said, ""The Grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal. That is the boundry, and the price of immortality." I've always taken that to mean that the grail cannot leave, and that anyone who drinks from it even once is immortal *within* the boundaries of the hall -- that is, they do not age while within it. I suppose either of our interpretations works.

Re:Think about it....

[Anonymous Coward]

Well that's nice. You're wrong.

Re:Think about it....

[osu-neko]

I suspect though, that any cancers or ailments he may have unknowingly had were healed at the time as well, and although immortality will not be his, a long and healthy life out to be. Indy will probably live to be around 140 or so... (We know from the Young Indiana Jones chronicles that he's still alive during the 90's...)

Re:Think about it....

[M.C. Hampster]

I suppose either of our interpretations works.

There is a third interpretation though: You're taking the movies a little too seriously.

Re:Think about it....

[EllF]

Oh, right. Discussion of movies isn't good anymore. Just watch and then buy the related merchandise. Sorry about that...

Re:Think about it....

[M.C. Hampster]

Actually, I was just karma whoring, please continue.

Re:Think about it....

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, right. Discussion of movies isn't good anymore.

Discussion is fine. But this isn't a discussion; it's pedantry.

But I suppose there's no other way to discuss a film as inane as Indiana Jones III.

Re:Think about it....

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't think it's important to the 4th movie whether or not the main character is immortal?

Who is too old?

[magarity]

and include just about every main character from the first three films.

Harrison Ford isn't too old but my favorite supporting character's actor is certainly is too old for the same role.

That's Dr. Jones, to you!

Re:Who is too old?

[Repugnant_Shit]

As long as we have Gimli from LotR running around yelling "Indy! I bought camels!" it'll be good.

Re:Who is too old?

[mog]

I SAID NO CAMELS.

Re:Who is too old?

[osu-neko]

"I said 'no camels', you have five camels! Can't you count?"

Incomplete DVD Set

[HisMother]

This seems to be a trend, as I'm sure y'all have noticed already: announce the latest in a series of movies, and simultaneously release a boxed set of DVDs of all the previous movies. The buzz about the upcoming movie sells the boxed set. After the next movie arrives, the boxed set is now incomplete, and you get a chance to sell a brand new boxed set to the believers. Pretty crappy if you ask me, but people apparently fall for it.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[perrinkog]

That may be the case with a lot of recent movies (LoTR in particular). BUT I have two points of dissention: 1. DVDs are being released in nov of 2003 and the movie is due July 2005. Thats a bit long for the "buzz" to last. 2. It is Indiana Jones. No hype needed.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[stud9920]

I have no problem with this : if someone is to dumb to realise it's not that important to have the fourth dvd in a separate box, Hollywood can have his cash. A friend of mine bought the LoTR DVD, then later the extended version. When he saw the extended version, he realised he would not look at the theatrical version ever again. Will he even not consider not buying the TTT theatrical version ? Probably not. What a dumbass.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[indead]

Or... You could just buy the forth one seperately later.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[pclminion]

This seems to be a trend, as I'm sure y'all have noticed already: announce the latest in a series of movies, and simultaneously release a boxed set of DVDs of all the previous movies.

Adam Osborne's classic blunder

"The final blow occurred in 1983, when Adam Osborne boasted about an upcoming product months before it could be released, killing demand for the company's existing products ... Unsold inventory piled up and OCC declared bankrupcy on September 13 1983. This marketing blunder came to be known as "Osborneing" and the phrase circulated in Silicon Valley for the next decade."

If I knew my gold plated box set was going to be an incomplete box set in two years, I would not buy it.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[JahToasted]

Quit whinning dude. Here's what I plan to do: let all my family members know that the trilogy will be released in november. Christmas day it will somehow appear under the tree. When the fourth one comes out I will go see it in the theatre. If its good I will buy it on DVD later. If not I won't.

I will then have the original trilogy and possibly the fourth one separately. I won't lose sleep over it because I'm not an anal-retentive idiot that has to have everything fit in one box.

So you, yes YOU have the choice: Buy the 4th movie separately, or be an idiot and pay for the original 3 movies twice so you can own a fucking box.

But please stop complaining. Also I am premptively demanding that you not complain about Star Wars boxed sets, LOTR boxed sets, or any other items that are sold in boxes. Thank you.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[HisMother]

Actually, I'm not whining. The only DVDs we actually own are a few of the kids' Disney ones. I've never seen the need to buy any, let alone a "collector's edition." There's never been a movie made I've felt like watching more than twice.

I was commenting, though, on a sleazy marketing trend, victims of which have spoken out here on /. before. I'm definitely not one of the "idiots" you describe, but they're out there, and frankly, I don't like to see anybody taken advantage of, idiot or not.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[sunhou]

As others have said, you can always buy the unboxed movies later on, unless you are such a collector that you really need the complete set in a box (and if you are that much of a collector, I guess you should have all of the boxed sets anyway, right?).

I am more annoyed by the growing trend of rereleasing movies with more extras. E.g. I bought Terminator 2 and Dances With Wolves on DVD more than a year ago, and now it seems both of those have been rereleased with more extras (e.g. extra footage for Dances With Wolves). I don't want to pay to buy the whole movie again, just for those extras, but I would like to see that stuff. I wish they'd just decide on all the stuff they're going to put on the DVD, release it, and be done with it (although I can understand them rereleasing "historically important" films decades later with more stuff, that's a different situation).

young indiana jones (TV) Sean Patrick Flanery

[wadiwood]

River Phoenix played young indy in the movie Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Sean Patrick Flannery played young indy in the TV series.

Strangely I got him (Sean) muddled with Jason Connery who is Sean Connery's son, who played Ian Flemming. Just to make confusion whole.

As far as I knew, Speilberg was working on Alexander the Great in 2005. Harrison seems to be working on something about Tombs in 2004 but he's not playing Indiana in that movie.

I'm not sure how a flash back presentation could be so very different from the TV series. And Sean Connery proves you can never be too old to be an action hero even if somewhat unconvincing (sick even) in Entrapment.

"Indiana Jones Escapes from the Nursing Home"

[peter303]

Is that the tentative title of the next episode? Very few action actors can keep on going for 20-30 years. Its time for Ford to go into graceful retirement or play grandpa roles.

Short Round == Jar-Jar

[sczimme]

Short Round is the Jar-Jar Binks of the Indiana Jones movies:

broken English coupled with nails-on-a-chalkboard voice

cloying attempts to appear cute

useless in most life-threatening or otherwise important situations

The major difference is that it is difficult to wish harm on Short Round because he is a little kid - not so with Jar-Jar. I had no trouble wishing Han Solo would show up and shoot first.

Not all of them...

[squarooticus]

One of my favorite characters, Marcus Brody, was played by Denholm Elliott, who died in 1992. He was one of the reasons why Last Crusade was such a good movie:

Elsa: It's perfectly obvious where the pages are. He's given them to Marcus Brody.

Professor Henry Jones: Marcus? You didn't drag poor Marcus along did you? He's not up to the challenge.

Walter Donovan: He sticks out like a sore thumb. We'll find him.

Indiana Jones: The hell you will. He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.

[Cut to middle of fair in the Middle East, Marcus Brody wearing bright suit and white hat, sticking out like sore thumb]

Marcus Brody: Uhhh, does anyone here speak English?!

Re:Not all of them...

[Scryber]

Denholm Elliott was a fine actor, but I felt the character he played in the third movie was nothing like the one from the first.

In Raiders, he was cautiously uncertain about Indy's pursuit of the Ark. The scene where Jones is packing his suitcase and Brody reveals his misgivings was really well done, conveying a sense that they were messing this things that should be better left alone.

In the third film, he was, simply, a boob. A comic relief. Dundering and flailing about, he was C-3P0 as a human. Of course that film was lighter in tone all around and IMO none of the movies of the trilogy approach the greatness of the first one, but still I thought that character's transformation from serious to comic was a shame.

Re:Not all of them...

[squarooticus]

From the little you saw of him in the first film, he was a different character for sure. But considering just how little time he was in the first film, it's hard to assert that they completely rewrote him to satisfy some kind of primal comic urge.

And, even if they did, I found Brody's bumbling to be very well done: like C-3P0 and UNLIKE Jar-Jar Binks, he didn't dominate the film, but rather just provided a few moments of comic relief here and there.

Furthermore, I'd say his contribution of non-comic lines in the third movie, while lower as a percentage of the whole of his lines in that film, was still greater than the sum total of his lines from the first film. So, what are you complaining about? :)

No! NO!

[MonkeyDluffy]

When was the last time Harrison Ford made a decent movie? I'm sorry, but the last few films he seemed to be just .... ordinary. While I love the Indiana Jones movies, I don't really want a new one that isn't in the same league as the first three.

-MDL

Re:No! NO!

[DarkEdgeX]

I'd like to think this has less to do with Harrison and more to do with the tripe he's given to act in. Sure, he could wait for those magical scripts to come along (and the Jack Ryan roles he performed were pretty good, IMHO), but at some point it's nice to have some money coming in. =)

I'm sure another Indiana Jones movie will be right up his alley, and I want to believe it's a role he likes performing.

Re:No! NO!

[Wolfrider]

--He was good in "Six days seven nights" (1998 - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0120828 ) and even better in Air Force One (1997 - http://us.imdb.com/Title?0118571 ) which I consider as one of his best performances EVER. Before that, he was awesome in The Fugitive - but that was back in 1993.

Godfather Set

[OpenSourceRulez]

There are only two Godfater movies.

Re:Godfather Set

[Cackmobile]

really what about no.3 with Andy Garcia in it.

Re:Godfather Set

[Anonymous Coward]

Just as there is no movie "Highlander II", there is no Godfather 3. We've all agreed it's best that way.

Re:Godfather Set

[andyt]

There are only two Godfater movies.

really what about no.3 with Andy Garcia in it.

There are only two Godfather movies!

japanese ring because it is...

[psxndc]

"Club Obi Wan" (from Star Wars yet had an oriental ring to it)

It has a japanese ring to it becuase it paritally is _real_ japanese. An "Obi" is the belt worn in karate/martial arts uniforms (the belt in "black belt"). As for "Wan" a quick babelfish lookup reveals... nothing. Anyone?

psxndc

Re:japanese ring because it is...

[Chundra]

"wan" is Japanese for "woof".

Re:japanese ring because it is...

[Anonymous Coward]

Woof belt? There's a translation I wish I didn't know.

Re:japanese ring because it is...

[cpt kangarooski]

However, I'm curious as to why a Chinese gangster in Shanghai would want a name that sounded even vaguely Japanese. Virtually everyone in China in the 1930's hated the Japanese, due to, you know, their ruthless and brutal invasion of China.

Re:japanese ring because it is...

[psxndc]

Is this really where the movie loses plausibility for you?

:-)

psxndc

Re:japanese ring because it is...

[cpt kangarooski]

Naw. I don't have serious plausibility problems with the Indiana Jones movies. But I didn't like how Temple of Doom slows down to a crawl between the scene where they finally get to the underground temple itself, and when they go to escape. Fortunately, it isn't a long time, and the two big chase sequences at the beginning and end really make the movie fun.

Time to eat monkey brains again

[abhikhurana]

I am an Indian..guess I will get back into the habbit of eating monkey brains.

Re:Time to eat monkey brains again

[The Cydonian]

Not to mention, pluck out our side-kick's heart from his body while shouting Om Namah Sivay ;-).

Seriously folks, but the Temple of Doom has one of the worst portrayals of Indians ever on celluloid (which, if I'm not wrong, led to the movie being banned in India). I know it's all fiction, and certainly, I don't know if it's a cross-cultural over-reaction, but I think ToD was a simplistic, and a grossly overstated description of a complex set of cultural traditions and values. You know, the old Oh-The-Americans-Know-Nothing-But-Are-Loud-Mouthed routine... it comes from cultural objects like this.

The parent's point seems to be that most Indians can't stand the IJ universe, so to speak, because of this grotesque sequel.

Re:Time to eat monkey brains again

[Ineffable 27]

Of course (and this might not have been clearly explained in the movie), all the barbaric rituals, weird food, etc., were supposed to reflect the Kali cult, not Indian traditions. I guess that would be lost on most viewers anyway.

I love 'Temple of Doom' almost as much as 'Raiders,' due to its audaciousness and how it goes completely over-the-top in its frantic action sequences. It starts with a bang and keeps upping the ante. I was disappointed when 'Last Crusade,' my least favourite of the three, warmed over so many elements of 'Raiders.'

Re:Time to eat monkey brains again

[The Cydonian]

One reason it might have been lost, is that Kali is a "mainstream" Hindu Goddess, so to speak, after whom India's third largest city, Kolkatta (once spelt as 'Calcutta'), was named. Nothing cult-ish about Her.

Then again, I recall the movie only in parts, so I can't be too sure the writers did not intend to talk about some subversive sort of religious cult.

Maybe you forgot... HHGH !!!

[da5idnetlimit.com]

The hitch hicker guide to the galaxy /// A TRILOGY IN 5 PARTS ///

I hate those young techno punk that think they invented a new, but interesting problem...

Re:Maybe you forgot... HHGH !!!

[Anonymous Coward]

He didn't forget it! In fact, the quote "the increasingly inaccuratley named [x] trilogy" comes from the cover of the fifth book in Hitchhiker! Maybe you should read them one day?

Re:Maybe you forgot... HHGH !!!

[Kintanon]

Hah! Just go check out the "Xanth" trilogy from Piers Anthony, it's pushing 30 books now.

Kintanon

Re:Maybe you forgot... HHGH !!!

[Jonathan_S]

I'm almost positive that Xanth is, one 9 book trilogy, followed by a second 16 book trilogy.

Not a 30 book trilogy. :)

Re:Maybe you forgot... HHGH !!!

[Anonymous Coward]

Agreed. And the first trilogy was better.

Ho hum...

[jcphil]

Who cares? The originals were boring as hell.

Idea! lets have Indiana JUMP over a SHARK...

[dpbsmith]

The first three Star Wars movies were good, the first three James Bond movies were good, even the first three Rocky pictures were good...

To a true fan, nothing is sadder than the beloved series that goes on and on, becoming less good, then mediocre, then embarrasingly bad self-parody.

Because the true fan just has to keep watching them all, out of appreciation for what was and hoping against hope for what might be but almost never is.

Three cheers for the entertainers who remember the old show business maxim, "Always leave 'em wanting more."

Re:Idea! lets have Indiana JUMP over a SHARK...

[Anonymous Coward]

But there's a flaw in your logic. The second Joens movie was crap. I loved the first and third, but the second was just horse-shit. And DONT SAY it's because I didn't like the non-christian mythos. I actually liked the back-story and artifacts. I just think the actual script sucked monkey balls.

Re:Idea! lets have Indiana JUMP over a SHARK...

[Alan Partridge]

"The first three Star Wars movies were good"

Hang on a minute, Return of the Jedi was GOOD?

Re:Idea! lets have Indiana JUMP over a SHARK...

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes. Yes it was.

Re:Idea! lets have Indiana JUMP over a SHARK...

[dpbsmith]

OK, maybe the second one shouldn't count. Like Dvorak's symphonies, maybe we can renumber them.

Short Round != Jar-Jar

[HarveyBirdman]

Are you crazy? Short Round kicked ass! He was a competent getaway driver, a sneaky card cheat, was not intimidated by a beautiful grown woman, knew martial arts, had the guts to apply FIRE to someone else's gut when the situation called for it, knew when to use his tongue and when to hold it, and he saved Indiana by beating the tar out of the little royal kid messing with the bad juju voodoo.

On the rope bridge, Jar-Jar would have screamed and blubbered. Short Round quietly turned to Willie and said, "Hang on. We going for a ride." The kid had a set of balls on him, man.

If they had both been there, Short Round would kicked Jar-Jar off the bridge himself in the name of the mission.

Re:Short Round != Jar-Jar

[Ineffable 27]

Excellent points. Plus, there's the fact that Indy just trusted him totally, and you as the viewer accepted that.

Unlike the case of Jar Jar -- when Liam Neeson expresses confidence in Jar Jar, you're left scratching your head.

Re:Short Round != Jar-Jar

[Anonymous Coward]

was not intimidated by a beautiful grown woman ... a trait tragically much respected amongst slashdotists it would appear.

Re:Short Round != Jar-Jar

[Anonymous Coward]

IMO: The Temple of Doom should've just featured Indy going it alone. Both his sidekicks were dumb. The Disney-like comedy they injected (an example: the scene with the elephant and the water) were really stupid.

Politically correct change in DVD Special Edition

[operagost]

Instead of shooting the crazed Arab, he points a walkie-talkie at him and says, "BANG!"

Couldn't possibly do anything original, eh?

[Moderation abuser]

Too much risk in that.

If [ $FILM = "Success"]; then
For count in 2 3 4 5
do
makeanother_sequel $FILM
done
else
findanother_sequel tomake
fi

That just about sums up Hollywood...

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Incontenance

[Anonymous Coward]

Indy fights to retain control of his bladder in various lush tropical settings.

Here ya go:

[Anonymous Coward]

Woman's voice over hospital intercom:

"Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard!"
"Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard!"

- The Three Stooges

You can thank me later...

YEY, DVDS!

[dasmegabyte]

You know, the only hold outs in my laserdisc collection were LucasFilms. Now all we need is Star Wars "real trilogy" non-special edition DVDs and I can get rid of this archaic RF modulated format!

More space in my entertainment center for records, yey!

Laserdisc

[whostudios]

Who need's DVD releases of classic movies when you can allready get them on laserdisc for years now! :)

Re:Laserdisc

[Anonymous Coward]

It only becomes a classic when viewed on beta...

Another part of my childhood destroyed

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm was really happy they were coming out with Star Wars Episode 1.

The one and only truth ..

[ciupman]

(One more for the pack)

Indy finds out that he's still inside the matrix ..

"Indiana Jones - In search of the real world"

that would be epic ..

1950's

[TheDredd]

To bad it's in the 50's, wat made the 1st and 3rd film good, was Indy battleing those evil Nazis.
That's why part 2 was never that good.

Who is he going to battle now??
Perhaps they should make it in the 03's instead and call it: Indiana Jones and the Defeat of Microsoft

Re:1950's

[Cackmobile]

I agree. Nazis make the best bad guys. Thats totally why Temple wasn't as good (still damn good though) Maybe they can set it in Argentina and he can battle Nazis hiding there.

10 years to the day, almost

[Markvs]

When I was in Vienna, Austria back in July of 1994, the big news on MTV Text was the new Indiana Jones movie, supposedly to focus around the "Spear of Destiny", the spear which stabbed Christ during the Crucifixion was in the works. Hmm.

BTW, MTV Text was a second MTV channel (this is back when Euro MTV was in English 24-7) which was text only news.

Re:10 years to the day, almost

[adagioforstrings]

Ah, I know the rest of this story. Indiana Jones' discovery of the "Spear of Destiny," (aka Lance of Longinus) starts research into human origins and the discovery of the being which all humans come from. This, in turn, starts the human instrumentality project to take humans to the next step of evolution. It's neat how these stories connect...wait...maybe I'm thinking of Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny first person shooter? Oh. Hmm.

Re:10 years to the day, almost

[default luser]

Indy, you mustn't run away!

Re:10 years to the day, almost

[elwormogrande]

"Spear of Destiny", the spear which stabbed Christ during the Crucifixion was in the works.

wasn't there a wolfenstein game about the same thing?

Damn!

[DaBj]

No more bragging to my DVD loving friends about how I have them on LD* (which they think is an obsolete format).
The last bastion of the LD is now gone, sob...

*LD=LaserDisc for those of you too young to remember =)

Better than Star Wars

[Anonymous Coward]

ive been looking foward to this film since i heard about it last year. so many star wars freaks here dont care about lucas milking that, another indy will be an excellent closing chapter. i also read that sean connery is starring as his dad.

Sweet.

[Cackmobile]

Been waiting for this for a long time. Just hope George doesn't make it crap like the new star wars movies. Harisson can still pull it off. As long as they make his character slightly older.

UK tv recently showed the first 3 again. Damn they were good. Temple was the least good and I think probably LAst crusade was the best but closely followed by raiders. Temple missed out cause it didn't have Nazis. Nothing beats nazis as bad guys.

Re:Sweet.

[Beaufort100]

I'd argue that quite a lot of people make better bad guys than nazi's. In my top three bad guys ever, they'd have to be:
1) Darth Vader
2) Goldfinger
3) The Joker
Nazi's are easy to caricature as bad guys, they're too stereotypical. It's almost a sign of lazy scripting..."bad guys needed, english? nazi's? commies"

Re:Sweet.

[Cackmobile]

I have to agree witht the Joker. Who ever cast Nichelson as the joker is a genius. That guy has the joker smile naturally.

Re:Sweet.

[osu-neko]

Unfortunately, in the subsequent movies, they tried to divide everyone's attention between two villians rather than going deep into one. That's why the rest of the movies were so bad. At least I assume so, I stopped watched after they totally botched Two-Face (and they had such potential, too -- such an interesting character, and a great actor like Tommy Lee Jones, and we get, what, 5 whole seconds of backstory? I was so disgusted...)

Re:Sweet.

[default luser]

Batman Returns ( 2 ) didn't have the problems of Batman Forever ( 3 ).

Michelle Pfeiffer played a combined love interest and unbalanced criminal element. Her character started shallow and stayed shallow as intended.

Danny DiVito played The Penguin with ferocity and a style only he could create, and he made a fine villian. The battle between Penguin and Batman was always the center of the picture.

What film were you wathing?

Re:Sweet.

[osu-neko]

To be honest, I think I was so disgusted with the third film that it tainted my opinion of the whole series to the point where I just wished they'd made the one film and forgotten about any sequels. The second was fine, but I'd give it up to under the rest of the series...

Re:Sweet.

[osu-neko]

s/under/undo/

[For crying out loud, what is with all the typos today... that's about the 20th I think...]

Re:The sad thing..

[Anonymous Coward]

Too further muddy things up ...

Jason Connery starred as Robin Hood in a BBC television series. Sean Connery starred as Robin Hood in "Robin & Marion".

Artefacts

[The Famous Brett Wat]

You say:

...he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already...

He's found the most famous Biblical Artefacts already (plus a Hindu artefact, for that matter), but not the most prized. The most prized must surely include the cross of the crucifixion itself, which, legend has it (if one wishes to give a Hollywood angle to it), heals all who touch it.

Note that I agree with you: the Christian Artefact angle has pretty much been done enough, and they'll probably try for something else like Atlantis, or something Egyptian, or maybe Incan? Round off the series (I presume this will be the last) with a throw-back to the opening scene of Raiders -- that would be cool. Even so, the Christian Artefact scene is hardly mined out if they think it will please the crowds.

Re:Artefacts

[Anonymous Coward]

It's spelled "artifact".

Re:Artefacts

[The Famous Brett Wat]

Sorry, dude, but I tend to check my spelling against the Macquarie Dictionary, since I'm Australian. No doubt "artifact" is the most common USA spelling; it's recognised as an alternative spelling here.

Re:Artefacts

[Razor Blades are Not]

Don't forget the Spear of Longinus (the spear that pierced Jesus' side when he was on the cross... apparently allows the possessor to conquer the world or something)

It was supposed to be an obsession of Hitlers too.

Re:Artefacts

[kalidasa]

Confirmed: Artefact is British/AU/CA/NZ, Artifact is US. As for the True Cross, the one everyone thought was the True Cross (and probably wasn't, really) was destroyed centuries ago, and you can buy what claim to be relics of it on eBay.

Re:Artefacts

[haggar]

most prized must surely include the cross of the crucifixion itself

A little tidbit: historians seem to agree that this "cross" was, in fact, more like a letter "T", so it was a long vertical and a shorter, horizontal bar tacked on top of it.

Old, old news!

[Ineffable 27]

Nothing new here.

Both the Cinescape and Raider.net articles are from June of 2002. And the IndianaJones.com DVD announcement is also old -- from May 6, 2003, as covered in this Slashdot thread at the time.

On the upside, some of those Cinescape search results are relatively new, though they contain minor information.

Slashdot: Your Old Jokes are New Again

[Anonymous Coward]

"Indiana Jones: The Stupid Joke About Old People"
or
"Indiana Jones: Forget Hollywood, No One Has New Material"
or
"Indiana Jones: Erectile Dysfunction is Always Funny"

No script yet!

[hdc]

Harrison Ford was on Conan last week and said he hasn't even seen a script yet for #4. The release time frame is definitely tentative.

Lil Hobbit?

[Lispy]

They could make the Star Wars plot twist and make a movie about Bilbos earlier adventures. After killing Smaug we could go back even further and make a trilogy out of the Silmarillion scaring away both, the diehard fans (for replacing the young Arwen with Natalie Imbruglia) and the rest of the crowd for confusing them with a new main character every 15 minutes.

cu,
Lispy

Retroactive title change

[Anonymous Coward]

There's one title change that may have to be "subtly" made to the third Indiana Jones flick, on that DVD box set.

Casual viewers may not notice it, but the title
"Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade"
will now read
"Indiana Jones and the Second-to-Last Crusade".

Lucas has tweaked the original trilogy

[artemis67]

In the "new and improved" version, the spinning sword dude shoots first.

And misses.

Re:Lucas has tweaked the original trilogy

[Anonymous Coward]

In the "new and improved" version, the spinning sword dude shoots first.

And misses.

I would hope so. After all he didn't even have a fucking gun.

Re:Lucas has tweaked the original trilogy

[Anonymous Coward]

After all he didn't even have a fucking gun.

Apparently, neither do you.

Re:Lucas has tweaked the original trilogy

[Anonymous Coward]

After all he didn't even have a fucking gun.

Apparently, neither do you.

I don't have a clue. That's different.

Re:Not again - triology definition by d. adams...

[Anonymous Coward]

well, isn`t the definition of a triology to have fiv e books (see douglas adams hitchhikers triology).
incrisingly uncorrectly named triology...

anyway, back to the towel and the ship.

really early rumor...

[Anonymous Coward]

There was a really early rumor (lat year) floating around that Indiana Jones would have a daughter in the 4th movie (so that they could continue the series?) and Natalie Portman was rumored for the part.

Yeah, it's probably false, but interesting nonetheless.

Re:really early rumor...

[bmantz65]

As long as she gets naked somehow, I'm all for it!

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[andy1307]

mean, let's face it, he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already, it's time for him to find something bigger. :)

something bigger..like SCO's code in linux?

I.J. and the WMD

[Denver_80203]

Only he could find them... hidden in some mesopotanian temple. Ought to fit the trend.

Oh no...not another ET'ization

[OrbNobz]

Can't wait to see Indy wielding a walkie-talkie and a jump rope. :(

- OrbNobz
Bittorrent doubles as a honeypot.

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[HarveyBirdman]

... though Karen Allen is the only one that I'd personally like to see in it as Spielberg's wife (Kate Capshaw) just annoys the hell out of me! :)

Maybe, but, Jesus Christ On Rye, Capshaw looked great in that princess/harem/courtesan outfit during the gross-out dinner scene, and later in that willowy blue whatsis before the bug scene.

No, he's too freaking old

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, you can be in great shape when you're 60, but you can be in great shape when you're 30 and kick the crap out of somebody 60.

Lets get off it. He's too frickin' old.

Besides Roger Moore was PATHETIC in all but his first 2 bond films. In his last, he was an embarassment.

He single-handedly (well, the producer) almost killed off James Bond.

Sean Connery was the only one sensible enough to just leave when he was no longer a leading man.

Re:ILM

[Anonymous Coward]

heh, flamebait ;) .. i love it .. nobody can post
a dissenting opinion on slashdot without it being
flamebait

wake up - ILM sucks - i'm in a position to know

Could be nazis

[Aexia]

trying to find some artifact that'll allow them to restore the Reich. Maybe the secret of Atlantis will allow them to resurrect Hitler too...

out of ideas huh?

[JohnDoe69]

seems like hollywood has no ideas left and now not just making sequals to recent movies but digging into the vault and sequaling movies from WAY BACK...ie T3,,,rocky 6 may come out..i dont know if this is a great idea...may ruin the classics

Is this right???

[Anonymous Coward]

What's that? Indiana Jones versus Conan? Ford & Schwarzenegger?

I'd pay to see that!

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[Ozan]

I believe it when I watch it, point.

My idea is that Ford and Spielberg can't stand each other and don't want to show it. Instead they warm up rumours of a new Indy film, released in 1995..98..2000..2004. They say they have scheduling problems while Ford makes one pointless movie after another starting with "Sabrina" 1995 and Spielberg not having THAT good projects either.

So what holds them back for all this time? It's not that hard to make a decent script when you have a universe of ancient artifacts and myths to rely to and not having to do compromises cause you are Spielberg. So just go for it, Steven, Harrison, and make the people happy.

SLASHDOTTER CYNIC TRANSLATION

[johnthorensen]

"© 2001 Paramount Harrison Ford as Indy in INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
Breaking Cinescape Exclusive
Spielberg talks INDIANA JONES 4 with us Director is high on Lucas' story, Ford's action talents"

TRANSLATION: We don't know what the title of the new movie will be, so we are going to call it the "Temple of Doom". That's how serious we are as "Entertainment Journalists".

Dateline: Monday, June 3, 2002 "By: CHRISTOPHER ALLAN SMITH AND ANTHONY C. FERRANTE "

TRANSLATION: Yeah, that's us - the "entertainment journalists"

"Only a day after Paramount announced Frank Darabont as the long-awaited choice to script INDIANA JONES 4, we've got some quotes from the man himself, Steven Spielberg, about the project and Harrison Ford's skills as maybe the ultimate action hero."

TRANSLATION: After hearing about Darabont from a Paramont security guard, we called Spielberg at 3 in the morning using a phone number we got from hax0ring E.T.'s intergalactic email. He had a few kind words for us.

"'The status is that Frank Darabont is starting - he's writing the screenplay,' Spielberg told us about THE GREEN MILE, THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION writer/director. Darabont also wrote for the now-defunct YOUNG INDIANA JONES series. 'We just made Frank's deal two weeks ago. We have the story, which is a story George Lucas wrote. It's a wonderful story. We have Harrison Ford, who's approved the story. He's ready to perform in the movie.'"

TRANSLATION: After Spielberg's kind words we asked him if we could have Darabont and Ford's phone numbers. After he refused, we warned him that we would write about how he sucked Ford and Darabont like grandma's Hoover. Then the lawyers got ahold of it and we had to edit a bit.

"He also confirmed the timetable for shooting the fourth chapter of the action-adventure series, 'The movie's going to be shot probably in May of 2004. When I say probably, it could be April or May of 2004 and the movie's going to come out probably for the July 4th weekend of 2005, because the last STAR WARS is going to come out the week before Memorial Day 2005. So we're coordinating this to be a one-two punch with the last STAR WARS coming out in 2005 in May and INDIANA JONES 4 coming out 2005, probably June 29th or July 4th.'"

TRANSLATION: "I probably will make the movie...um probably because if I am lucky, then probably Star Wars 3 will probably come out this century, so probably because I like to get laid by someone other than my right hand I probably will get my guys to get that Mississippi Jenkins I mean Illinois James, well whoever it is - I'll probably get that movie done first. And then I will probably get laid by the gal that played the hot blonde Nazi in that Indy movie with the Holy Grail. Probably."

"While that gives hope to fans of the highest grossing adventure series in history, more than a few fans wonder about Ford's advancing years, given it will be almost 25 years since RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK before INDY 4 hits screens. "

TRANSLATION: Seeing as how the last job offer Ford got was for Viagra ads, we're wondering if he can still handle a whip. If the movie sucks though, it'll be that lazy bastard Spielberg's fault though - I mean, waiting 25 years for a follow-up is UNHEARD of...oh wait there WAS that STAR WARS thing...

"What does Spielberg think?"

TRANSLATION: We don't really care what Spielberg thinks, as long as he gets with it and makes the effing movie

"'Harrison Ford can still kick the s**t out of most people half his age," Spielberg told us. "I think he's in great condition to put the fedora and the hat and the leather jacket back on and crack that bullwhip a few more times.'"

TRANSLATION: "Have you seen what we did with Yoda? S**t, C.G. and latex prosthetics can do wonders."

"For t

Re:SLASHDOTTER CYNIC TRANSLATION

[Anonymous Coward]

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Re:SLASHDOTTER CYNIC TRANSLATION

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Hmmm...retuen of the ark?

[Chanc_Gorkon]

That link someone posted earlier said something along the return of the ark....remember the scene with the ark and all of those other boxes in the big warehouse? Let's make a bet that someone in the 1950's government found and....something happens....

That could be fun....

Snakes

[ouslush]

Why did it have to be snakes?!?

Retire Jones, but not the series!

[RubberChainsaw]

I agree that Indianna Jones is not a character who can be played by an actor other than Harrison Ford. He has defined the role too well to have anyone else take his place. But I would like to see him "pass the hat", so to speak, to another actor who can continue in the same type of Jones adventures. Brandon Fraiser comes to mind.

The Indianna Jones movies have always been fun to watch. It would be great if they were to continue in some way, giving newer generations a reason to go back and watch the series once it becomes "too old". I didn't watch any of the earlier Bond movies until after I had seen Goldeneye (actually it wasn't until after I had seen the movie and beaten the game, but still..).

:)

Re:Retire Jones, but not the series!

[stanmann]

I think that Angelina Jolie as lara croft and Brendan Fraser in the mummy series have stepped into the role, even though they don't have the name.

Modern Day Indy?

[Lord_Dweomer]

How about:

Indiana Jones and the Search for the WMD

It could be set in the desert, and could have the opening scene in the Oval Office with G.W. telling Harrison Ford that there is a POWERFUL MYSTERIOUS ARTIFACT that evil terrorists are hiding that he needs to find. He's not really sure what it looks like...just that it has the potential to bring lots of DOOM! And if he comes across any oil to make sure to relay the coordinates to his personal line.

Re:Modern Day Indy?

[The_Shadows]

Indiana Jones and the Search for the WMD

No, no, no. That would never work. Indy can only go after artifacts that actually exist.

Re:Modern Day Indy?

[osu-neko]

Well, then, we just need to find out what Saddam was really hiding when he kept refusing to let inspectors look at particular sites throughout the 90's...

Re:Modern Day Indy?

[Lord Omlette]

Close enough?

Indiana Jones and the Early Bird Special of Doom

[blair1q]

Not to say that Harry Ford is getting a little long in the machete' or anything, but geez, Spielberg, leave us with some respect for our heroes*.

* - those of us who don't just worship box-office grosses, that is.

"Oh, hell, just shoot him with the gun"

[Animats]

Remember that scene in the bazaar with the sword wielding Arabian dude ... Well, in the original Indy just blasts him with his pistol

That wasn't planned. Harrison Ford was injured in the previous day's action scene, and wasn't up to a sword fight that day. So Speilberg simply said "Oh, hell, just shoot him with the gun". Later, Speilberg said of this "I never realized I was making one of the great moments in the history of motion pictures".

Re:"Oh, hell, just shoot him with the gun"

[Anonymous Coward]

Speilberg said of this "I never realized I was making one of the great moments in the history of motion pictures". Good call. He wasn't. The arrogant prick.

Re:"Oh, hell, just shoot him with the gun"

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, Harrison Ford (like most of the cast and crew) had come down with dysentery and that's why he wasn't up for the fight scene.

An Extra I'd Pay For

[ThePhin]

This Four DVD set will include:

Lots of nice stuff, but what I want to see is the shot by shot remake of Raiders created over six years by a group of kids.

"Spielberg was astonished at the ingenuity and imagination with which these kids recaptured the magic of his, arguably, greatest film."

If so, why not let the rest of us see it?

Oops!

[mcpkaaos]

Best Buy is slashdotted... here's a mirror.

Re:Not again - triology definition by d. adams...

[Anonymous Coward]

No, it isn't. It's to have three books. Hence the "tri" in "trilogy."

1950s? Puh-leeze

[Art Tatum]

Set in the 1950s? How does that work? Does he fight Soviets? So far as I know, Stalin didn't have any interest in ancient artifacts or supernatural powers. And I don't think Kruschev either.

IMO, the Nazis and the late 30s character were part of what generated the great atmosphere in the first 3 movies.

Try this: transplant Sound of Music into Soviet Russia. It just doesn't work, does it?

Just Wait

[KalenDarrie]

Then just wait for the full set to come out. I've been waiting on several DVD sets myself, for the last movies in the sets to be put in.

Hang on to those IQ points...

[Anonymous Coward]

Sometimes when checking out the info on a movie or actor/actress I accidently see the titles of the last few postings to that particular discussion and immediately loose a few IQ points

Yeah.... Check back with us when you've secured those IQ points as tightly as possible, OK?

--
Posting as AC from work, but you know who I am
SVM, ERGO MONSTRO

home video and movie theaters

[GunFodder]

If I want to see a movie with thought provoking themes, interesting dialog, and fully realized characters then I will go rent it and enjoy it from the comfort of my couch.

If I am going to drive to a theater, shell out $9, watch stupid commercials and listen to bland pop for half an hour waiting for the movie to start then I want to watch a movie that knocks my socks off. I want assloads of special effects and bass that goes down to the brown note. Otherwise I can get a better movie watching experience in my own home.

I think Indiana Jones

[civilengineer]

will do the superman thing, too like Keanu.

Racist of them all...

[Anonymous Coward]

Indiana Jones tells different story to different people. For the western audience, its fearless man in intruiging "savage" parts of the world, trying to collect powerful items. For the people in those parts of the world where this is all supposed to happen, its blasphemy,glorification of theft of their most sacred icons and last but not the least - racial insensitivity and "holier than thou" attitude on Jones' part.
Sure - Jones kicks Nazi butt and the evil monkey-eating Indian cult. But thats all dishing out misinformation and bias towards certain communities. For one thing - Nazis might be evil, but by trying to cultivate enmity against them by fabricating elaborate plots is doing the Nazi work ourselves. Indians have a permanent "snake charmer" impression on the west and monkey eating makes it worse.. the last time I checked, snake charming is not in the top 100 popular professions in India and they worship monkeys and respect them as much as they respect another human being.
If by telling these Jones' adventures on screen, Speilberg is trying to glorify the "explorers" - who were mostly murderous theives, then Lord save the sane world. Look at what spaniards did to native americans...

Re:Not again - triology definition by d. adams...

[Anonymous Coward]

You are a humorless moron. Go check his source.

Highlander II

[eyegone]

Just when I had those memories all nice and repressed!

Doh!

[Guppy06]

I meant Larry 3000, not Otto.

One character that most likely won't be included..

[amanaplanacanalpanam]

...is Marcus Brody. Denholm Elliot (who played Brody) died in 1992.

Re:Not again - triology definition by d. adams...

[gidds]

Maybe, but at least he can spell 'trilogy' correctly...

Re:Not again - triology definition by d. adams...

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not increasing anymore, dude

IJ: "Premature anti-fascist"

[Anonymous Coward]

What I'd like to see is Indiana Jones vs. the House Unamerican Activities Committee, if only as the 'B' plot of an otherwise action-oriented movie.

Why would he be fingered as a red-baiter? Because he was a "premature anti-fascist" -- a term I am not making up (see http://www.alba-valb.org/lectures/1998_knox_bernar d.html)-- that is, someone who opposed Nazis before the US officially opposed Nazis.

(Why was that suspicious? Because fascists hated communists and vice-versa. If you leapt to oppose fascism, like the volunteers in the Spanish Civil War, you were suspect...)

I'd like to see Dr. Jones the bad guys of HUAC a drubbing, esp. given the apparent resurgence of McCarthyism today.

Maybe that plotline is in the cards. It would explain why all major characters from past movies would be in this one -- HUAC might want 'em as witnesses!

eghck. forgive me if i'm bitter.

[ian wentzell]

i think that realistically it's going to be just as bad as the recent star wars and james bond movies. ...similar to james bond in that the continuation of all the old themes of the series will have become totally ridiculous. think of how pointlessly two-dimensional the villians are, and how silly Q's gadgets have become. INVISIBLE CARS, anyone?!? just look how sagging and old pierce brosnan is now; they'd better be damn realistic in the Indiana Jones movie about what old people can (thoughtfully puzzle things out) and cannot (seduce women under 30) do. & it'll probably be like star wars in that it will have umpteen dozen fruitcake references to the former movies. this is what i'm really afraid of. they'll make it silly by compromising the integrity of the story as a plot unto itself, & make the movie into an excuse for jokes about aging, and all the womanizing Indiana Jones has done, and how he always drops something (his gun or his whip) at the wrong moment. not to mention merchanising. merchanidising is taken into full account during the very fabrication of the story on these types of movies, nowadays. you can bet they'll have all the same old silly tricks like goofy sidekicks & bumbling, ridiculous members of whatever asian culture running all around. action figures as well as cheap plot devices, maybe? so, at best it'll be a rehash with a cardboard plot, & at worst it'll be a toy commercial with a cardboard plot. expect all the things that you should, by now, be used to hollywood doing, and not any more that that. of course, they could always surprise us, but it seems doubtful because the people who are really in charge of this either see the movie as an investment (and THOSE people have freakin' equations telling them which plot devices and elements of comic relief are likely to make for a more successful movie), or they're old and have no updated sense of what's entertaining, meaning they're likely to turn out something almost as good as they used to, but they'll one-up themselves by exagerrating everything to all hell, making it terribly tired & strained. of course...they could always surprise us...

Re:eghck. forgive me if i'm bitter.

[Anonymous Coward]

hahahaha.. how true!

What will it be?

[BluedemonX]

Indiana Jones and the Dentures of Polident?

Indiana Jones and the Metamucil of Regularity?

Indiana Jones and the Depends of Comfort?

This movie is years too late.

Indiana Jones and the Close Encounters

[awkwardone]

Set in 1977, Indiana Jones will evade estranged family members, the US Government, and fake gas leaks and ascend from the earth to an extraterrestrial plane.

Oh, wait...

Something bigger

[roesti]

I mean, let's face it, he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already, it's time for him to find something bigger. :)

How much bigger a find do you want? Realistic software patents? A boxed copy of Duke Nukem Forever? What?

Personally, I can't wait for "Indiana Jones and the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction". If anyone can solve the mystery and find these weapons, Indy can.

Too Short? Not A Problem

[LongJohnStewartMill]

They don't have to worry about the movie being too short. If the need some filler just add a scene with Indiana Jones in the bathroom. That should eat up an hour or two.

Re:One character that most likely won't be include

[RandomWhiteMan]

Marcus Brody was my favorite character after Indy. When I heard Elliot died in '92 I realized if they made another movie, it won't be as good as I would have wanted it.

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[Anonymous Coward]

Inside info on the new film's title.

Indiana Jones and the Quest for Geritol!

sounds nice

[pyrrho]

what's the bandwidth and power supply like down there?

Other Fossils Coming Your Way To Reprise Old Roles

[org.earth.Citizen]

Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry
William Shatner as Captain Kirk
Adam West as Batman
Stallone as Rocky
Arnold as the Term....oh wait

Indiana Jones and Old Folks Home of Doom!

[JMYoda]

YES IT WILL ROCK! Wheel chairs are way cooler then mine carts any day! And just wait for Indy's freaky mind trip when the evil Nurse Shultz slips him the wrong medication and he has to beat the antidote out of her with his walker!

Now seriously... I have NO FAITH in GL after the SW prequels. However Frank Darabont wrote some of the best Young Indy installments. Just check out "YIJ and "The Trenches of Hell", "The Phantom Train of Doom", "Oganga: The Giver and Taker of Life" and "Daredevils of the Desert". That last one features Catherine Zeta-Jones by the way...

I really wish Darabont would have done the screen play for AOTC instead of Jonathan Hales. His episodes where OK but unremarkable.

"YIJ and "The Trenches of Hell" is a real good one. Not sure of the writer. The first half does a great war-as-hell story and the second is a nice tribute to "The Great Escape". I only wish the fiercest war episode, set right after was out. As a video release it's was to be the first half of "Demons of Deception" I think.

One other not written by Darabont that is a must-have is "Attack of the Hawkmen" directed and co-written by SW and IJ sound designer Ben Burt who was the editor for the series.

Mystery of the Blues is decent. Best seen for the Harrison Ford bits which are fun.

I will admit it's probably best to avoid "The Scandal of 1920" and "The Hollywood Follies"

Oh and don't judge the series on "The Treasure of the Peacock's Eye" which came free with the trilogy box set. Only the second half of that one is good. Not sure why they picked it. I can old think it's because it's the only one that has Indy hunting for an artifact. For action-packed light hearted adventure like the films, "The Phantom Train of Doom" or "Attack of the Hawkmen" are much better picks.

The latter has Indy accidentally blowing up a Zeppelin factory along with the German's new weapon in trademark Indy style. (Letting us know why Belloch (sp?) recognized Indy's handiwork so well at the airfield, he's been doing stuff like that for years at that point...

I'm just pissed that after the first wave of videos they never released the rest as promised. All I can figure is it didn't sell well because of all the jack-off babies who whined like little bitches that it wasn't just some cheap-ass knock of the movies. (This would have gotten old and stupid real fast).

Considering how "family values" types continuingly piss and moan about the lack of any good family shows or shows that have educational value for children, it's appalling they didn't back "Young Indy". Instead they complained about its violent content in its grimmer war episodes.

Ya see Americans love a good war. Give them explosions and they cheer like children hopped up on candy. However, if you show them how war senselessly wastes the lives of young men who join up eagerly only to be sacrificed by politicians who care nothing about them and they just don't want to see it.

*sigh*

Now I'm not saying war isn't nessasary at times. Unfortunatly it is. I'm just saying the American people need to be forced to see the cost that is paid in human lives. The collective American mind has become immune to statistics. Look how many people didn't realize just how horrible the Holocaust was until Spielberg's "Schindler's List" forced them to open their eyes. Ditto with WWII and "Saving Private Ryan". But how soon they forget...

Re:Aw no guys...American neo nazis?

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybye they are going to have Indy bash some rich cone headed kkk's that would be a hoot!

Actors in the film

[digtl88]

Does anyone know who else is in the film?

Sounds good

[invalid_user]

OK, I will go to one.