Re:That's one way KDE/GNOME should emulate Windows
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A Real Bill Gates Rant
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But for Linux to succeed even in the minutest way, it must meet Joe Public's expectations
Why? It's a tool. The majority of "Joe Public" don't have specialized tools to work on bikes/cars/woodworking/electrical/floors/whatever. Does that mean that professional tools for those tasks should be re-designed for those "joe publics" to use without skill?
I don't want my tools to be n00bified, they work great as they are, and appreciate them going in a direction that doesn't ape a broken paradigm. Thanks.
I was about to say the same thing, and don't have mod points today. A test page isn't something used frequently enough to have a context menu item for. How broken are your print drivers? I haven't printed a test page since the day I set my laserjet up 3 years ago.
Actually, the problem is that those you are hiring to do the coding *SHOULD* also be very competent technical writers, and should do that documentation as part of any project they roll out. Good programmers and project managers are good communicators, including documenting their work and process flows.
Who better to document how something works than the person who architected it?
This is part of the reason I'd rather hire a degreed person from an accredited university than someone who went to a technical or trade school.
Having a 3rd party technical writer do that work seems like a large time sink to me, as the technical staff will have to describe to the technical writer how the process works and such. Rinse, lather, repeat. Vs. the guys doing the work documenting it properly and concisely to begin with.
Umm. What you recommend is far more complex to keep up to date than a wiki, my friend. Templates? Word Processors? With a TOC???? What?
A wiki gives you:
- Version Control
- Shared Contributions, and ACLs
- Fast, easy editing
- Simple, fast, consistent markup and presentation
- Automatic indexing and linking
If it bothers you so much to get CID blocked calls, why not just reject calls that are blocking their callerid info? I know this is easily possible with vonage, and assume it is the same with pretty much any carrier. If the person really needs to get in touch with you, they'll get the message and knock off the bullshit. Otherwise, you'll never need deal with getting the call in the first place.
I saw a a large fireball, which I assumed to just be a meteor on my way from State College to York last night. Could that be bits of it? Funny. First 'falling star' I've ever seen, and it was a big'un!
Parent poster is right, I don't know anyone who uses TPB due to the issue of 'freedom',
I do. Every time my comcrap tuner/dvr stops dropping sound. I'm PAYING for a #!$!#@$ service that I'm not receiving. TPB has allowed me to see a few things I like to watch that the cable box I'm PAYING for did not properly record. I'm on box #3. Next replacement will be getting rid of cable, and installing boxxee on a fanless pc. NBC did a good thing with hulu.
The best solution would be something like synaptic for windows. Have microsoft set up a '3rd party' repository. Done. Works fine for the ubuntu folk. Of course you can use ftp, etc, but that requires another level of knowledge.
There are more protocols to tcp/ip than just http, you know. And even so, http (ftp, scp, whatever) works just fine as a protocol without a GUI browser in front of it.
Why does everyone insist on including features that depend on web sites that may, or may not, be available in the future? Ok, if you somehow are able to code these things yourself (I fail to see the value in the natural language thing), but to hard code it to specific URLs to apps that can change at the whim of their creators? DUMB.
When snowboarding at big sky, getting into the bar meant filling out the membership card the pretty hostess gave me, and if IIRC, having somebody who already had a membership say "sure, he's with me".
Why are we so proud of mimicking windows? There are several places we have the opportunity to do things BETTER, so why don't we?
1) task bars. Why even use them? desktop menus for launching, and docks for applets are a much more elegant and intuitive solution.
2) application behavior. cut/paste in nautilus, for example (I know, this is a KDE article), is ridiculous. The way that rox-filer does things makes a helluva lot more sense from both a usability and efficiency standpoint.
etc.
I don't see mimicking the confusing UI mess that is windows (or even macos) as a good thing.
malware is, and always will be, a stupid user issue. You can't solve stupid user issues with technology. Antivirus software is a sham, and a virus itself.
I can install (say) ubuntu, and move to a different 'version' of the same just by installing or removing packages later. There's your difference. Oh, and I didn't have to deal with licensing headaches that way either. Install and go. Tweak packages if necessary. If in a corporate environment, roll up an install script and life is easy.
I certainly don't need the 4GB+ of crap in some mainstream distros just to set up an iptables firewall and IPSec gateway. Better, I like using the automation tools of one distribution over another's for automating deployment to some 200+ systems I currently administer.
Linux wins *because* you can tailor it easily to your needs, and choose the best distribution for what you are trying to accomplish.
I do agree that the base should be better standardized (where files are for network config, etc). It's getting better, but everyone still does it a little different.
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Why? It's a tool. The majority of "Joe Public" don't have specialized tools to work on bikes/cars/woodworking/electrical/floors/whatever. Does that mean that professional tools for those tasks should be re-designed for those "joe publics" to use without skill?
I don't want my tools to be n00bified, they work great as they are, and appreciate them going in a direction that doesn't ape a broken paradigm. Thanks.
I was about to say the same thing, and don't have mod points today. A test page isn't something used frequently enough to have a context menu item for. How broken are your print drivers? I haven't printed a test page since the day I set my laserjet up 3 years ago.
Yes. Postits or GTFO! :-)
Actually, the problem is that those you are hiring to do the coding *SHOULD* also be very competent technical writers, and should do that documentation as part of any project they roll out. Good programmers and project managers are good communicators, including documenting their work and process flows.
Who better to document how something works than the person who architected it?
This is part of the reason I'd rather hire a degreed person from an accredited university than someone who went to a technical or trade school.
Having a 3rd party technical writer do that work seems like a large time sink to me, as the technical staff will have to describe to the technical writer how the process works and such. Rinse, lather, repeat. Vs. the guys doing the work documenting it properly and concisely to begin with.
Umm. What you recommend is far more complex to keep up to date than a wiki, my friend. Templates? Word Processors? With a TOC???? What?
A wiki gives you:
- Version Control
- Shared Contributions, and ACLs
- Fast, easy editing
- Simple, fast, consistent markup and presentation
- Automatic indexing and linking
Word docs? Are you serious?
MediaWiki is ok. Moin does a better job with attachments. Stay away from egroupware.
too bad linux games kinda aren't there, but I used to do this with quake4..
Just run the game in its own X11 session. Then switch between them using and .
If it bothers you so much to get CID blocked calls, why not just reject calls that are blocking their callerid info? I know this is easily possible with vonage, and assume it is the same with pretty much any carrier. If the person really needs to get in touch with you, they'll get the message and knock off the bullshit. Otherwise, you'll never need deal with getting the call in the first place.
I saw a a large fireball, which I assumed to just be a meteor on my way from State College to York last night. Could that be bits of it? Funny. First 'falling star' I've ever seen, and it was a big'un!
Actually insane + intelligent is damn frightening. Even worse, b/c now she's hot too by the formula...
Actually, I think the better one is "Physically Fit, Enjoys Sex, Sane".
I do. Every time my comcrap tuner/dvr stops dropping sound. I'm PAYING for a #!$!#@$ service that I'm not receiving. TPB has allowed me to see a few things I like to watch that the cable box I'm PAYING for did not properly record. I'm on box #3. Next replacement will be getting rid of cable, and installing boxxee on a fanless pc. NBC did a good thing with hulu.
Actually, I think it's "Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick 2". And for online dating, it seems to be "Attractive, Intelligent, Sane. Pick 2".
The best solution would be something like synaptic for windows. Have microsoft set up a '3rd party' repository. Done. Works fine for the ubuntu folk. Of course you can use ftp, etc, but that requires another level of knowledge.
There are more protocols to tcp/ip than just http, you know. And even so, http (ftp, scp, whatever) works just fine as a protocol without a GUI browser in front of it.
The real problem is the pressure MS puts on OEMs, and the inability for other software to compete due to OEM deals, closed APIs, etc.
We've already been through this.
Like my 401k 'savings' that lost nearly 20K in a few months time?
See subject.
Why does everyone insist on including features that depend on web sites that may, or may not, be available in the future? Ok, if you somehow are able to code these things yourself (I fail to see the value in the natural language thing), but to hard code it to specific URLs to apps that can change at the whim of their creators? DUMB.
3D stuff is all linear algebra, which I didn't learn until college, but is certainly something bright HS kids could grasp.
It's just a neat application to the math (rotation matrices, etc).
When snowboarding at big sky, getting into the bar meant filling out the membership card the pretty hostess gave me, and if IIRC, having somebody who already had a membership say "sure, he's with me".
That's a worm, not a virus. I said nothing about patching. I was referring to viruses.
Why are we so proud of mimicking windows? There are several places we have the opportunity to do things BETTER, so why don't we?
1) task bars. Why even use them? desktop menus for launching, and docks for applets are a much more elegant and intuitive solution.
2) application behavior. cut/paste in nautilus, for example (I know, this is a KDE article), is ridiculous. The way that rox-filer does things makes a helluva lot more sense from both a usability and efficiency standpoint.
etc.
I don't see mimicking the confusing UI mess that is windows (or even macos) as a good thing.
malware is, and always will be, a stupid user issue. You can't solve stupid user issues with technology. Antivirus software is a sham, and a virus itself.
I can install (say) ubuntu, and move to a different 'version' of the same just by installing or removing packages later. There's your difference. Oh, and I didn't have to deal with licensing headaches that way either. Install and go. Tweak packages if necessary. If in a corporate environment, roll up an install script and life is easy.
Microsoft licensing? not so easy, is it?
Springsteen? Are you on crack? Prince laid it down in 2007. That was talent.
Put those chicken fingers down! *crotch plant to the camera* LOL!
He is.
I certainly don't need the 4GB+ of crap in some mainstream distros just to set up an iptables firewall and IPSec gateway. Better, I like using the automation tools of one distribution over another's for automating deployment to some 200+ systems I currently administer.
Linux wins *because* you can tailor it easily to your needs, and choose the best distribution for what you are trying to accomplish.
I do agree that the base should be better standardized (where files are for network config, etc). It's getting better, but everyone still does it a little different.