The other side is that if consumers as a whole refuse to support add supported business, we are going to have to pay in some other way. Figuring out the balance of this struggle isn't just important for websites. It is the same disconnect that we are seeing right now in television.
No. It means we just get our useful Internet back.
If the ads had never been intrusive to begin with, then people would not have used things to block them. That your 'nice' ads are collateral damage is not our problem. Advertisers shouldn't have been such morons about their business method, and maybe then they wouldn't be having problems now.
If ads had remained a banner at the top or bottom of a page, with no animation, most people likely would not have felt the need to block the crap. Bonus if it's targeted ads.
well, as a linux user who does not run as root, auto-update no workee, so I do have to download it again each time there is a new version. Well, I guess I don't *have* to, I could run it as root when I know there is a new version out, but it's easier for me to just download and install.
Our Plain-English Privacy Policy If you think you receive a lot of junk mail, you should see how much crap an on-line business gets every day! We're people here at Speedgoat, not a corporation, and we hate spam as much as you do (probably more), so we keep any and all correspondence you have with us to ourselves. Why is this so important? We live in a sneaky world filled with sleazy marketing techniques that count on complacency and a lack of knowledge. Ever wonder why you're receiving all that junk mail? Unfortunately, a number of businesses are in the habit of selling off your personal information. Even the friendly neighborhood grocery store is profiling you with each bleep of the product scanner.
Rather than hire an attorney to draft a 20 page privacy policy, we'll just keep it simple. Speedgoat Bicycles does not, and will not make any customer information available to any outside companies, organizations or individuals, period. We do not, and will not, sell customer information, and we will not reveal specific custom bicycle pricing. As on-line shoppers ourselves, we value your trust in us, and we respect your privacy.
Pretty refreshing to see that a smaller business 'gets it'.
Wish I had mod points. This is the most informative post in this thread. I mean, if you are going to have a phone with you, you would likely want it to receive calls (emergencies at home?), but definitely don't want it randomly incurring charges on a data network without your knowledge. The biggest question I had was "Isn't there a way to stop that particular behavior?" Thanks!
Definitely. And because of this ability to adopt a particular style, Perl is the only language I know that I can walk away from for a year, and still be able to write a simple script without having to look at any reference material. If I ever have to do a comparison test in bash, I always have to dig up sample code to figure it out.
We had a nice mediawiki pilot for collaboration, but management is shoving an ill-conceived sharepoint 'solution' down our throats instead, with nobody knowing how to use it, and it not being particularly good at any of the over 9000 things it tries to do.
uh, right. Give them the choice between Mediawiki or Moin (nothing really 'web 2.0' about those, but whatever) and sharepoint. They'll jump all over sharepoint. And you think a LAMP solution is complex, difficult to use and support! Ha!
Well, too bad for him. He can certainly get a job for a company that can see the idea to fruition, or just keep the idea to himself in hopes that somebody who can actually deliver the product doesn't come up with it before he has a chance. If he just has the idea, and never plans to do anything but patent it, well, he is a squatter. The current system allows this, and THAT is why it is borked. Let me vaguely patent a FTL drive, Mmmmkay?
The whole point of a patent (at least as I see it), is to give those who have an idea that they DO want to bring to market the opportunity to do so. The idea is the easy part. Actually prototyping and selling your idea TAKES WORK. The problem with the current system is it rewards people who have no intention of ever doing that work (squatters).
A patent is DEFINITELY not required for software, b/c software requires nothing but the idea itself, and time to hack it. Why do you need to patent something that takes no capital or special tools to bring to life? You write it, it's there, it's done! (this is why, even though I have a degree in engineering, I love computers, b/c I get to create without needing all of those materials and specialized tools!). Business method patents are even worse, as they are yet another step removed from a tangible product. Business methods are like the flowchart that leads to the software. That this stuff is patentable is ludicrous.
I have many ideas for products. I may patent some, I'm not sure. I just don't have the drive. Somebody else will probably beat me to it. But the point is, I wouldn't go after a patent unless I was willing to create the prototype or work out an agreement with a company that could create the prototype. What would be the point (oh yeah...to squat in the hopes of becoming rich off of other people's work).
I did check it out, and moved back to vanilla sylpheed. Most of the added features were things I wasn't interested in, and I think the normal branch may be a little cleaner and well though out.
Patents aren't the problem. Software and Business Method patents are. To fix the patent system:
No more business method or software patents. Physical systems only.
Anything you patent, you must come up with a prototype or model within a reasonable amount of time. No working model or currently achievable design, no patent.
If you can't create the model or design, or come up with a means to do so, too bad, no patent. Ideas are simple. Making something of them is what patents are supposed to protect.
Software is not a physical thing. Why a need to patent? You really shouldn't be able to patent math or the way that you apply it. Copyright, sure, but not patent.
I never really liked eudora that much, but back then I was an OS/2 user, so PMMail is what I used. And they ported that to windoze, so I kept using it.
Now I use sylpheed. It's a great linux client that has also been ported to windows. It supports local mailboxes on linux, pop, imap, ssl. It even runs great as a portable app off the USB drive when I am not at my own computers. This configuration works great with IMAP over SSL.
My only complaint is that there is no way to tell it to remember "Yes, I know I'm using a self-signed SSL cert, please stop pestering me about it".
Open Office Draw vs. uh. Visio? Close, but not quite.
Ummm. I do. Or make the music available as FLAC.
The problem is the PRICING. CDs should be like $5 a piece, if that!
And it's even worse with downloads. Why the hell would I want to pay for compressed music that isn't named, encoded, or indexed the way I want???
The only sarcasm was the advertising. I think that'd kick ass as a t-shirt. I'd like it white on black, minus the logo though.
if you have an account on the box hosting the pop server, and can use ssh, then just forward pop over ssh. Otherwise, that sucks, you're screwed.
No. It means we just get our useful Internet back.
If the ads had never been intrusive to begin with, then people would not have used things to block them. That your 'nice' ads are collateral damage is not our problem. Advertisers shouldn't have been such morons about their business method, and maybe then they wouldn't be having problems now.
Somebody should make a t-shirt with that. I like it. We can advertise it with web advertisements!
BINGO.
If ads had remained a banner at the top or bottom of a page, with no animation, most people likely would not have felt the need to block the crap. Bonus if it's targeted ads.
I have no sympathy.
well, as a linux user who does not run as root, auto-update no workee, so I do have to download it again each time there is a new version. Well, I guess I don't *have* to, I could run it as root when I know there is a new version out, but it's easier for me to just download and install.
Pretty refreshing to see that a smaller business 'gets it'.
Wish I had mod points. This is the most informative post in this thread. I mean, if you are going to have a phone with you, you would likely want it to receive calls (emergencies at home?), but definitely don't want it randomly incurring charges on a data network without your knowledge. The biggest question I had was "Isn't there a way to stop that particular behavior?" Thanks!
So the question is (I don't have an iphone), is there an easy way to enable/disable the automatic email checking? This is the real problem.
Definitely. And because of this ability to adopt a particular style, Perl is the only language I know that I can walk away from for a year, and still be able to write a simple script without having to look at any reference material. If I ever have to do a comparison test in bash, I always have to dig up sample code to figure it out.
Sure, but it will be called the Open Office XML Standard ;-)
(following up to my own post after more thought)
Of course, that proxy would then need a way to 'paste' passwords into other sites as well.
1) create SSL proxy gateway that uses passwordless client certs for authentication
2) market to users of cybercafes
3) PROFIT!
Oh crap, they'd probably prohibit the use of USB drives, CDs, etc. Oh well.
Ah, you mean like sharepoint vs. mediawiki?
We had a nice mediawiki pilot for collaboration, but management is shoving an ill-conceived sharepoint 'solution' down our throats instead, with nobody knowing how to use it, and it not being particularly good at any of the over 9000 things it tries to do.
uh, right. Give them the choice between Mediawiki or Moin (nothing really 'web 2.0' about those, but whatever) and sharepoint. They'll jump all over sharepoint. And you think a LAMP solution is complex, difficult to use and support! Ha!
It's the kool aid, man.
Well, too bad for him. He can certainly get a job for a company that can see the idea to fruition, or just keep the idea to himself in hopes that somebody who can actually deliver the product doesn't come up with it before he has a chance. If he just has the idea, and never plans to do anything but patent it, well, he is a squatter. The current system allows this, and THAT is why it is borked. Let me vaguely patent a FTL drive, Mmmmkay?
The whole point of a patent (at least as I see it), is to give those who have an idea that they DO want to bring to market the opportunity to do so. The idea is the easy part. Actually prototyping and selling your idea TAKES WORK. The problem with the current system is it rewards people who have no intention of ever doing that work (squatters).
A patent is DEFINITELY not required for software, b/c software requires nothing but the idea itself, and time to hack it. Why do you need to patent something that takes no capital or special tools to bring to life? You write it, it's there, it's done! (this is why, even though I have a degree in engineering, I love computers, b/c I get to create without needing all of those materials and specialized tools!). Business method patents are even worse, as they are yet another step removed from a tangible product. Business methods are like the flowchart that leads to the software. That this stuff is patentable is ludicrous.
I have many ideas for products. I may patent some, I'm not sure. I just don't have the drive. Somebody else will probably beat me to it. But the point is, I wouldn't go after a patent unless I was willing to create the prototype or work out an agreement with a company that could create the prototype. What would be the point (oh yeah...to squat in the hopes of becoming rich off of other people's work).
And if she was only 13, it was Chris Hansen.
I did check it out, and moved back to vanilla sylpheed. Most of the added features were things I wasn't interested in, and I think the normal branch may be a little cleaner and well though out.
If you can't create the model or design, or come up with a means to do so, too bad, no patent. Ideas are simple. Making something of them is what patents are supposed to protect.
Software is not a physical thing. Why a need to patent? You really shouldn't be able to patent math or the way that you apply it. Copyright, sure, but not patent.
A good X11 mail client
Somewhat on topic.
I never really liked eudora that much, but back then I was an OS/2 user, so PMMail is what I used. And they ported that to windoze, so I kept using it.
Now I use sylpheed. It's a great linux client that has also been ported to windows. It supports local mailboxes on linux, pop, imap, ssl. It even runs great as a portable app off the USB drive when I am not at my own computers. This configuration works great with IMAP over SSL.
My only complaint is that there is no way to tell it to remember "Yes, I know I'm using a self-signed SSL cert, please stop pestering me about it".
funny except that b was around before a, which pretty much succumbed to g.