Think windows is the greatest UI experience in the world? Well, here is just one of many reasons I use linux...I won't get into the lower level scripting and customizing that is simple on linux, but would require quite a bit of study and compiling of C code in windows:
Simple task: Copy a file using a GUI (for example, if you have a file you'd like to use as a template in the same directory):
Windows:
right click file, and select "Copy"
right click in a window, and select "Paste"
right click on the file, and select "Rename" (you didn't really want to name this new file "Copy of $foo.ext", I'm sure.
either retype the whole file name (the whole thing is selected), or re-select and then type
Rox Filer:
right click file, cursor will be in a sensible place to change the name for the new file (ie, right before the.ext)
type the name, hit <Enter>. Or optionally drag the icon to any other directory.
Luckily some projects, like Rox, ARE innovating with UI rather than mimicking the horror that is windows. Not perfect, but happily getting better as time goes by.
While I'm at it. Simple task, copy/move a file with a GUI:
Windows:
you need to select with a different keyboard/mouse-button combination depending on source and destination and what you want to do with the file
ROX:
always the same action. Rox will ask you what you intend with a reasonable default selected at the end of the drag op.
While I'm going on with my man-crush on Rox, I'd like to add that even though I didn't contribute any code to the project, MANY of my suggestions as a USER did make it in (I'm even given props in the docs. Neat:). Try that with Microsoft's products.
And as mentioned before, this is just one small example of how one of many choosable UI's in linux is better than the windows UI. There are many other GUI examples, and of course the stuff within the system itself (defaultgw=`/sbin/route -n | grep ^0.0.0.0 | awk '{print $2}'` is a simple example). I can do pretty much anything I want with a linux box to turn it into whatever appliance I want (jukebox, firewall, file server, web server, media center, whatever). You can do that with windows, but it's certainly not easy, and it is very apparent that you have no real control of making things act the way you'd like when you try.
I'll stick with embedded perl, thanks. It does what I need, and I am already familiar with it. All the benefits of perl and mod_perl, with the simplicity of embedding into a page. I'm sure PHP is nice, but why bother learning it?
Sure wish I had mod points today. A very good alternate way of looking at it, and probably very valid. In all of these security theatrics, governments are actually making their countries less secure. Thanks for pointing out how they just rendered what could have been a good tool in their arsenal now useless.
I dunno about MathML, since I've never used it, but the equation editor that comes with OO.org models itself after what Word Perfect had back in the early 90's. Much much more efficient to type equations this way vs. markup or gui tools. For example:
x=sqrt((a+b)over(c+d))
would render as you expect (dunno how to show the result easily in slashdot, sorry). Very powerful stuff, especially if you are trying to type equations from notes and such...no need to take your fingers off the keyboard.
I'm not sure... her song doesn't really indicate that she understands the meaning of the word "ironic." Those things she mentions in the song are unfortunate (mostly), but not ironic.
Which would make the song itself ironic. But I'm with you, I don't think she's *that* smart.
It *IS* microsoft's fault for making this difficult to do by default. Granted, it is the application developers who today STILL don't write their apps to be multi-user aware who are mostly at fault...but how were they able to get away with that model in the first place? Microsoft standards.
Contrast this with my linux systems where ALL apps are multiuser-aware (and hence work properly) and always have been. Need an example? Ok. I can run two X11 sessions on the same box, at the same time, with the same monitor/keyboard/mouse, but from different user accounts, and all settings for each user's suite of apps is perfect. s Normally, no, you wouldn't do this (well, maybe if you share a computer and want to quickly flip to your account), but it demonstrates my point.
It's just a different philosophy that microsoft was late to adopt, and therefore many software vendors are way behind the curve, even today. This makes it very difficult to properly run a secured windows system, even though it is technically possible.
Huh? Doesn't play nicely how? I'm using VIA PD10000's for linux firewalls all over the place where I work (including as branch office IPSec gateways). They work flawlessly. Granted, that isn't desktop use (no video), but for what I am using them for they can't be beat. And this is on basically a stock Redhat 8 distro.
It seems that people just use office apps for things that they shouldn't be. There's no excuse for this in a corporate environment (and will end up costing you quite a bit of money as soon as you can no longer read the format du jour!) If they'd stop that, there wouldn't be any issues. Shared data should be in open formats. Period. Letters to grandma or whatever, sure, go ahead and use any word processor you want. Nobody else needs to edit those letters but you, so know yourself out.
s/blog/web page/ in 1994. Now it's just that you have nontechnical people posting useless crap on web pages instead of only those who learned a little bit of HTML and how to ftp a page to their ISP's web server.
Maybe to get around the great firewall of china. Also, the company I work for is global. We have offices in china connected via IPSec. Not smart of us to block china telecom addresses...
That's why, for my spam filters, the only blacklist based stuff that I outright reject is from the spamhaus sbl/xbl list. It is easy to remove yourself from that list, should you land on it for some reason.
If you don't trust the USPS, then tell your bank/whatever not to use them. But really, is there a feasibly more secure way to send a PIN than through our federal mail system?
Newsflash: At my office, I can even OPEN UP the inter-office envelopes in the outgoing mail bins and see EVERYTHING inside! Heck, I don't need the gimp or anything, and there is no evidence of tampering.
The last time I tried enlightenment, I was not impressed. Eye candy is great, but I also want something that lets me work efficiently and consistently (Please, somebody modernize OS/2's WPS and make a WM that uses those concepts!). If enlightenment can deliver consistency and a usage model that gives us power (simple things are simple, hard things possible, etc), that would be great. If not, I'll just settle to next best thing to WPS I can find on linux, which is currently windowmaker with Rox-Filer.
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You can get some relief by installing cygwin. You can then have whatever shell you want, and it will also launch windoze programs. Or, do what I finally did when I am forced to use windows. VMWare on a linux host:)
well, you must not have many online safe-computing-challenged friends then. Most of my spam is the result of my address being in a friend's address book when they get hit by a worm/virus/trojan.
I also run mail lists, which adds to this problem
But running my own server with mimedefang + spamassassin makes life somewhat like it was pre-1994.
Sure, we could use VOIP services on cable broadband instead, but the local cable companies are also a monopoly, and have had the freedom to screw their customers as the phone companies now have again the entire time.
It would have been nice if instead the cable companies had been regulated. Then I might not now be paying ridiculous fees for a 'commercial' account just so that I can host my own *personal* mail and web servers.
To follow up to my previous post (yeah, bad form, I know)...
How much *design* is actually going into these if they are expecting to build 2-3 a week??? It seems that Carmack is taking the hobbyist programmer approach to engineering. I won't argue how right or wrong this is, but my thoughts are towards the latter.
Sure, you need to test *some*, but eventually you should be able to actually have an idea about how something will work without having to build the damned thing first.
Maybe John, as brilliant as he is, should go to school for awhile to learn a bit about fluid dynamics and thermal dynamics and the equations that govern those sciences.
...than building it. How about the nozzle designs? Unless Carmack is properly matching a nozzle to the back pressure generated by his engine such that the shock wave is optimal (at the nozzle exit), I'm not impressed. If you have shock waves inside the nozzle or if you blow the shock out the end, you are losing energy, and potentially wrecking equipment.
That actually is a good point. The stock OpenGL on my linux boxen via Mesa pretty much sucks. But when you use NVidia's drivers, framerates are incredibly fast, even on my aging Athlon 900.
Why would anyone, after clearly being informed NOT to talk about this information, talk about this information ?
Because it is the right thing to do. Cisco's code has been stolen recently. The Bad Guys have it. It will take them a lot less time to exploit it then it took Lynn to reverse engineer it. Some of Lynn's work is based on translations from chinese hacker groups trying to exploit cisco. It's coming. The only way to defend is to get the information out there. Something that Cisco would rather hide its head in the sand about.
I was at the presentation. Really impressive exploit. He did not give specific details, but enough to show that this stuff is real, and there is a real threat from others who would not have disclosed that they know how to do this.
Bringing it out to the public's knowlege while not releasing the exploit code is the right thing to do, and that is why Lynn quit ISS to do it.
We're using a bunch of hush mini-itx systems as firewalls/vpn gateways. Probably not the best systems for gamers, but for everything else, INCLUDING multimedia, these are sweet:
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True mostly, but what if you want a good firewall? That was my first reason to use linux. And iptables is part of the OS, isn't it?
Think windows is the greatest UI experience in the world? Well, here is just one of many reasons I use linux...I won't get into the lower level scripting and customizing that is simple on linux, but would require quite a bit of study and compiling of C code in windows:
Simple task: Copy a file using a GUI (for example, if you have a file you'd like to use as a template in the same directory):
Windows:
Rox Filer:
Luckily some projects, like Rox, ARE innovating with UI rather than mimicking the horror that is windows. Not perfect, but happily getting better as time goes by.
While I'm at it. Simple task, copy/move a file with a GUI:
Windows:
ROX:
While I'm going on with my man-crush on Rox, I'd like to add that even though I didn't contribute any code to the project, MANY of my suggestions as a USER did make it in (I'm even given props in the docs. Neat :). Try that with Microsoft's products.
And as mentioned before, this is just one small example of how one of many choosable UI's in linux is better than the windows UI. There are many other GUI examples, and of course the stuff within the system itself (defaultgw=`/sbin/route -n | grep ^0.0.0.0 | awk '{print $2}'` is a simple example). I can do pretty much anything I want with a linux box to turn it into whatever appliance I want (jukebox, firewall, file server, web server, media center, whatever). You can do that with windows, but it's certainly not easy, and it is very apparent that you have no real control of making things act the way you'd like when you try.
I'll stick with embedded perl, thanks. It does what I need, and I am already familiar with it. All the benefits of perl and mod_perl, with the simplicity of embedding into a page. I'm sure PHP is nice, but why bother learning it?
Sure wish I had mod points today. A very good alternate way of looking at it, and probably very valid. In all of these security theatrics, governments are actually making their countries less secure. Thanks for pointing out how they just rendered what could have been a good tool in their arsenal now useless.
Which would make the song itself ironic. But I'm with you, I don't think she's *that* smart.
It *IS* microsoft's fault for making this difficult to do by default. Granted, it is the application developers who today STILL don't write their apps to be multi-user aware who are mostly at fault...but how were they able to get away with that model in the first place? Microsoft standards.
Contrast this with my linux systems where ALL apps are multiuser-aware (and hence work properly) and always have been. Need an example? Ok. I can run two X11 sessions on the same box, at the same time, with the same monitor/keyboard/mouse, but from different user accounts, and all settings for each user's suite of apps is perfect. s Normally, no, you wouldn't do this (well, maybe if you share a computer and want to quickly flip to your account), but it demonstrates my point.
It's just a different philosophy that microsoft was late to adopt, and therefore many software vendors are way behind the curve, even today. This makes it very difficult to properly run a secured windows system, even though it is technically possible.
Huh? Doesn't play nicely how? I'm using VIA PD10000's for linux firewalls all over the place where I work (including as branch office IPSec gateways). They work flawlessly. Granted, that isn't desktop use (no video), but for what I am using them for they can't be beat. And this is on basically a stock Redhat 8 distro.
It seems that people just use office apps for things that they shouldn't be. There's no excuse for this in a corporate environment (and will end up costing you quite a bit of money as soon as you can no longer read the format du jour!) If they'd stop that, there wouldn't be any issues. Shared data should be in open formats. Period. Letters to grandma or whatever, sure, go ahead and use any word processor you want. Nobody else needs to edit those letters but you, so know yourself out.
s/blog/web page/ in 1994. Now it's just that you have nontechnical people posting useless crap on web pages instead of only those who learned a little bit of HTML and how to ftp a page to their ISP's web server.
Something to look at for a design piece for next year's Beverage Cooling Contraption Contest
Maybe to get around the great firewall of china. Also, the company I work for is global. We have offices in china connected via IPSec. Not smart of us to block china telecom addresses...
That's why, for my spam filters, the only blacklist based stuff that I outright reject is from the spamhaus sbl/xbl list. It is easy to remove yourself from that list, should you land on it for some reason.
"PC Loadletter? WTF is PC Loadletter??"
Newsflash: At my office, I can even OPEN UP the inter-office envelopes in the outgoing mail bins and see EVERYTHING inside! Heck, I don't need the gimp or anything, and there is no evidence of tampering.
The last time I tried enlightenment, I was not impressed. Eye candy is great, but I also want something that lets me work efficiently and consistently (Please, somebody modernize OS/2's WPS and make a WM that uses those concepts!). If enlightenment can deliver consistency and a usage model that gives us power (simple things are simple, hard things possible, etc), that would be great. If not, I'll just settle to next best thing to WPS I can find on linux, which is currently windowmaker with Rox-Filer.
You can get some relief by installing cygwin. You can then have whatever shell you want, and it will also launch windoze programs. Or, do what I finally did when I am forced to use windows. VMWare on a linux host :)
I also run mail lists, which adds to this problem
But running my own server with mimedefang + spamassassin makes life somewhat like it was pre-1994.
It would have been nice if instead the cable companies had been regulated. Then I might not now be paying ridiculous fees for a 'commercial' account just so that I can host my own *personal* mail and web servers.
To follow up to my previous post (yeah, bad form, I know)... How much *design* is actually going into these if they are expecting to build 2-3 a week??? It seems that Carmack is taking the hobbyist programmer approach to engineering. I won't argue how right or wrong this is, but my thoughts are towards the latter. Sure, you need to test *some*, but eventually you should be able to actually have an idea about how something will work without having to build the damned thing first. Maybe John, as brilliant as he is, should go to school for awhile to learn a bit about fluid dynamics and thermal dynamics and the equations that govern those sciences.
...than building it. How about the nozzle designs? Unless Carmack is properly matching a nozzle to the back pressure generated by his engine such that the shock wave is optimal (at the nozzle exit), I'm not impressed. If you have shock waves inside the nozzle or if you blow the shock out the end, you are losing energy, and potentially wrecking equipment.
That actually is a good point. The stock OpenGL on my linux boxen via Mesa pretty much sucks. But when you use NVidia's drivers, framerates are incredibly fast, even on my aging Athlon 900.
Actually, IBM did it first with microchannel.
I was at the presentation. Really impressive exploit. He did not give specific details, but enough to show that this stuff is real, and there is a real threat from others who would not have disclosed that they know how to do this.
Bringing it out to the public's knowlege while not releasing the exploit code is the right thing to do, and that is why Lynn quit ISS to do it.
We're using a bunch of hush mini-itx systems as firewalls/vpn gateways. Probably not the best systems for gamers, but for everything else, INCLUDING multimedia, these are sweet:
http://www.logicsupply.com/default.php/cPath/49