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HOWTO: The Anti-Printer

Compu486 writes "Inventgeek.com has an interesting article on modding laser printers. In this how to mod they have converted a standard Xerox laser printer into an automatic high volume paper shredder. Just what we need to take care of those pesky alien autopsy photos, TPS reports, and Apple & IBM's CPU Contracts."

179 comments

  1. Ho hum... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Funny


    Big deal...at my office there's a printer that randomly shreds documents without any sort of modification. ^_^

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    1. Re:Ho hum... by shanen · · Score: 4, Funny

      That was exactly the point I was going to make. The only purpose printers have is to shred as much paper as possible. Once in a while they actually print a good page, but that's just bait to trick you into feeding it more paper.

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    2. Re:Ho hum... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that model well **sigh**

    3. Re:Ho hum... by ciroknight · · Score: 1

      We must work in the same office.. some days I just wanna shoot that Nina lady though. If I hear Corporate Accounts Payable, Nina speaking, just a moment one more time I'm gonna snap. And God help you if you say I'm just having a case of the Mondays.

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    4. Re:Ho hum... by /ASCII · · Score: 5, Funny

      At my old university, there used to be a huge old dot-printer with a really heavy printer head. One day someone figured out that the table it was standing on was pretty unstable, and that when printing a carefully crafted file, called 'devil.ps', the printer head would move at the right speed overturn the table.

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    5. Re:Ho hum... by LordSnooty · · Score: 2, Informative

      That was exactly the point I was going to make. The only purpose printers have is to shred as much paper as possible

      Er, sounds like you have one broken printer there. Might I recommend an engineer call?

    6. Re:Ho hum... by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Someone actually said that to me at work, non-jokingly, on a Monday morning.

      Generally speaking, I don't have anger issues. I'm laid back, mellow, and "nice". But at that moment, the urge to beat her to death with the fax machine almost overwhelmed me.

    7. Re:Ho hum... by shanen · · Score: 1, Funny
      You obviously have very little experience with printers. All spawned by Satan.

      Actually, I should have noted that the point of the original article is that they only unleashed the natural paper-hating spirit of the demon that lurks in the heart of every printer. (Benjamin Franklin excepted.)

      But it still deserves to get modded redundant? Will it help avert redundancy if I tell the story of my three of my early printers? One was this weird thermal paper jobber. Then there was this early daisy wheel thing by Brother. Major breakthrough in that it had two colors, and I even had an italic font wheel to use with it. The third one was actually a more normal dot matrix printer, but it still needed tractor fed paper... Ah, those were the paper rending days of yore.

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    8. Re:Ho hum... by suitepotato · · Score: 1

      Every Lexmark or Epson printer I've ever owned was like this and I was always careful not to allow virgins to drip blood into it or let it have any digitalis. A friend of mine who I was sure was still a virgin did cut himself on an HP once and after that the damn thing never did print correctly again. Ate every page consistantly and so the office people said, often belched a good satisfying one every evening.

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    9. Re:Ho hum... by PhotoGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While this is technically feasible, along with line-printer-music, and other cool hacks, this story smells a bit.

      A postscript dot matrix printer? Has there ever been such a beast?

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    10. Re:Ho hum... by Kinetix303 · · Score: 1

      Actually, yes, there are several. Not to mention that there may have been an interpreter in between(ie: ghostscript). I've passed a lot of raw printer data encapsulated in postscript files for our servers over the years.

    11. Re:Ho hum... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please..... I've been working on copiers/printers/fax machines for 8 years and I see people who have done this on a regular basis.... granted, they usually do it unintentionally. Now if they could get a CPU into it that ran a Linux kernel and scanned the document to determine if it was ok to shred before actually shredding it... Now that would be worth it!!!

    12. Re:Ho hum... by smbarbour · · Score: 0

      ...or, you could just buy a Shrinter!

      (Yes, this was meant to be funny)

  2. Aliens by Elitist_Phoenix · · Score: 2, Funny

    pesky alien autopsy photos
    Aliens are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!

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    1. Re:Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Original Simpsons quote:

      "Oh, Lisa. Vampires are make believe, just like elves, gremlins and eskimos"--Homer Simpson, AKA Dan Castellanata.

    2. Re:Aliens by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > Aliens are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!

      No, no, Elves are real; you just don't see them much because they keep to themselves.

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    3. Re:Aliens by Elitist_Phoenix · · Score: 1

      >> Aliens are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
      > No, no, Elves are real; you just don't see them much because they keep to themselves.

      You could use the same arguement for hemroids but that doesn't mean they don't exist!

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  3. Weird by Crixus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A laser printer seems like a much more useful tool than a paper shredder. That is considering that they have shredders at my local office store for next to nothing.

    Hacks are wonderful things... but this is like turning a 911 into a Chevette. :-)

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    1. Re:Weird by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... except this was using an already broken laser printer as a sheet feeder to an el-cheapo paper shredder. More useful than you'd think.

    2. Re:Weird by teslar · · Score: 5, Interesting
      this is like turning a 911 into a Chevette. :-)
      Yes, well... except that the laser printer they used was actually dead and there was a need for a bulk shredder. And why, so the reasoning goes, buy an expensive bulk shredder when you can build one using the knackered laser printer?

      So yeah, it is like turning a 911 into a Chevette.... except that you've slammed the 911 into a tree the day before and actually have a use for a Chevette - maybe some Chevette fan is offering you loads of money for it? :)
    3. Re:Weird by Gorath99 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Don't worry. Tune in next week for a tutorial on how to turn a broken shredder into a fully functioning laser printer!

      Results may vary, of course...

    4. Re:Weird by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

      but I want both.

      I need the shredder on the output of the laser printer for the ultimate in secure documents that are so secure that they must be shredded as they are printed.

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    5. Re:Weird by E.J.Thribb · · Score: 0

      No patent for you, sonny - prior art: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/looflirpa/shrinter. shtml

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    6. Re:Weird by DarkSarin · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are Chevette Fans? I never knew...

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    7. Re:Weird by schon · · Score: 2, Informative

      there was a need for a bulk shredder

      If there was a need for a bulk shredder, why did they use a $15 walmart piece of crap?

      Those things aren't designed to run continuously - it's gonna burn out in less than a week.

      Now this is a bulk shredder - it will take CD's VHS tapes, and even 3-ring binders (whole - including the rings.)

    8. Re:Weird by bluekanoodle · · Score: 2, Informative
      That's nice, but did you happen to notice the price on that? Over $30,000!!!!

      You could buy a new $15 shredder at Walmart every week for the next 38+ years for that price!

    9. Re:Weird by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but $15 Walmart shredders aren't called "DESTROYITs!"

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    10. Re:Weird by lantenon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No no, my friend. That is not a bulk shredder. This is a bulk shredder.

    11. Re:Weird by Alien+Being · · Score: 2, Funny

      "There are Chevette Fans?"

      A friend of mine married a very elegant French woman who insisted that he buy her a "sporty car". So, one day he handed her a set of keys with a fob that said "Vette".

      It was all hugs and kisses, until she got to the window, at which point her mood changed (permanently, I think).

    12. Re:Weird by modecx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Screw that... I'd be fixing a blown small block Chevy to a ginormous grinder before I'd get one of those. I'd make the shredder only Tim Allen and myself could love! Ohhh oh oh...

      Mine will shred bowling balls, whole cabinets full of 3-ring binders and an entire meeting room full of PHBs... All at once!

      I'm the evil midnight shredder what shreds at midnight! Bwahahahahaha!
      --It's the only jib I've got Baby!

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    13. Re:Weird by schon · · Score: 1

      You could buy a new $15 shredder at Walmart every week for the next 38+ years for that price!

      You'd be buying them every day, not week. I don't know about you, but that's not a great way to spend my time.

      And it *still* wouldn't take binders and CDs, unless you were buying them everyy 5 minutes.

      My point was that a $15 disposable is *NOT* a bulk shredder.

    14. Re:Weird by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and it needs 220 Volt 3 Phase (!) 50 amp power. And uses 9kW.

      Of course if you're Enron, that's not a problem. :)

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    15. Re:Weird by Oopsz · · Score: 1

      No no, my friend. That is not a bulk shredder. This is a bulk shredder.

    16. Re:Weird by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      I've got a small block Chevy sitting in the corner of my garage just waiting for a project like that. Get ahold of me when you get that ginormous grinder, and a blower (or possibly one of the Banks twin turbo kits). :)

    17. Re:Weird by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1

      ...and this "anti-printer" is not a bulk shredder either. It's a $15 Wal-Mart POC stuck inside a defunct printer.

      My question is - why pay "$200-800" when you could just pay $15 for the same reliability?

    18. Re:Weird by Parham · · Score: 1

      Anything that can shred a BOAT and a REFRIGERATOR is my new best friend ^^. The clips on that site are awesome :)

    19. Re:Weird by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      What you need is a go-go-Gatget printer that prints letters that explode as soon as you've read it.

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    20. Re:Weird by khallow · · Score: 1
      Yea. They should keep a couple dozen backups, er, just in case.

      Also, your solution while envy-producing starts at $32,000.

    21. Re:Weird by cshay · · Score: 1

      Decent shredders cost a lot more than "next to nothing". I reckon you have to spend at least $100 to get one that can shred an envelope with junk mail inside (without having to open it), and that will last several years.

    22. Re:Weird by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Ya, they help keep the radiator fluid cooled.

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    23. Re:Weird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean you've never taken an engine out of a wrecked porsche and put it in an old VW? YOu've really missed a lot of fun. Driving an automobile that looks so meek, but can beat most Detroit built machines in a 1/4 mile is a great joy. Not only fun to drive, but profitable too.

    24. Re:Weird by DarkSarin · · Score: 0

      I don't blame her--it's a dirty trick.

      I can't say I wouldn't do something like that, but it is a dirty trick.

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  4. You could have more "fun"... by Mendy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...modding a fax machine or photocopier like this :)

    1. Re:You could have more "fun"... by ciroknight · · Score: 1

      If you work where I do, you'd know that there's no modification nessicary for our fax. Simply put in the piece of paper, press send, and preso, a wad of paper on one end, and a perfect copy on the other.

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    2. Re:You could have more "fun"... by Mercano · · Score: 1

      It's just a mesure to ensure no more then one copy of a document exists at any one time.

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  5. Modded toner cart by frinkacheese · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would like a modded HP toner+drum cartridge that randomly shreds documents. Then I could cause much hilarity in the office as the presentation-making, paper-shifting, twoddle-spouting marketing types try to print off their presentations 5 minutes before their meetings.

    1. Re:Modded toner cart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like a modded HP toner+drum cartridge that randomly shreds documents. ...you need to mod a HP printer to do that??? I thought that's their build in feature.

  6. Missing features by jurt1235 · · Score: 4, Informative

    And paper jam feature (V3 laser printers). And when they said paper jammed, they really meant it. I also loved the paper folding feature where the paper was folded in a width 0.5inch harmonica.

    They really miss these good old features on this Xerox. Too bad, else it would have been worth to spend some time on it.

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    1. Re:Missing features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They really miss these good old features on this Xerox

      Just get an epson then, you should be really satisfied. It does have the multiple page jam-at-once feature that works reliably. It's able to grab ~50 enveloppes at once at least.

    2. Re:Missing features by justforaday · · Score: 1

      I also loved the paper folding feature where the paper was folded in a width 0.5inch harmonica.

      Our new Canon ImageRunner came with this feature. You'd think that for all the things they list that it does, that they would've included this one. Of course, it doesn't do it very often, so maybe they just didn't want to get people's hopes up...

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    3. Re:Missing features by FuckTheModerators · · Score: 1

      Harmonica? You don't have a printer, you've got an origami machine.

      Unless, of course, you meant accordion.

    4. Re:Missing features by jurt1235 · · Score: 1

      Accordeon is the feature I was looking for, you are correct!

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  7. Re:Eskimos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean Esquimaux.

    In fact, you mean Innnnnnnuit.

  8. the other way? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if I could just mod that paper shredder into a laser printer

  9. Cuts out... by billybob2001 · · Score: 1

    ...the middle man.

    No-one reads most of the docs that get printed in offices anyway.

    How about applying this mod to an ATM?

    I'd like to see the reactions...

    1. Re:Cuts out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Uhm ... you do realise that ATMs don't actually PRINT the money they dispense, right?

    2. Re:Cuts out... by /ASCII · · Score: 1, Funny

      What? You mean they give you used money? I just took a bath in my money pool! Gah! I feel so dirty. I need to take a shower!!!

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    3. Re:Cuts out... by nicething · · Score: 1

      Uh. . . that "golden shower" isn't much cleaner than your money-bath.

  10. Other mods on the site by Sancho · · Score: 1

    I like some of the other projects on the site a bit more, like the LCD Window casemod. I could see real potential for that with a touch screen and IR as a dual-head media PC. Information about what you're viewing in the actual case (along with browsable directories while you're watching something else) while the video displays on your TV.

    1. Re:Other mods on the site by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      That is actually a very cool mod ...
      Though i can't help thinking that it looks like an iMac with an eating disorder

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    2. Re:Other mods on the site by karnal · · Score: 1

      iMac with an eating disorder

      Hey.

      Even PCs need lovin' sometimes.

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  11. Yeah, but... by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...does this "Anti-Printer" cause a massive explosion spewing paper shreds and toner, when it collides with a standard Xerox laser printer?

    I thought not.

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    1. Re:Yeah, but... by Basje · · Score: 1

      That depends on the relative velocity between the colliding objects.

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    2. Re:Yeah, but... by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      ..does this "Anti-Printer" cause a massive explosion spewing paper shreds and toner, when it collides with a standard Xerox laser printer?

      I thought not.

      Collides yes. Simply comes into contact with, no. You just need a little higher velocity to achieve the same result.

      So, all you need it your LXPS (Large Xerox Particle Sled) to get the two up to speed, and you can have exactly what you wanted.

      I hearn CERN has a facility for printer/anti-printer interaction analysis. :-P
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    3. Re:Yeah, but... by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Actually, it would create a burst of gamma radiation, not an explosion. The outcome would probably be the same, of course, though, or at least for any bystanders...

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  12. Stolen Idea by Scoria · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just what we need to take care of those pesky alien autopsy photos

    I believe that the submitter was referring to this Xerox "real customer testimonials" advertisement.

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  13. What's the point? by DrXym · · Score: 1

    Unless it can be turned into a cross-cut shredder, with paper detection switch, reverse, safety switches and paper bin for under £20 which is what such a shredder costs at Argos. I own such a shredder and it works fantastically for the price and it's well worth it.

    1. Re:What's the point? by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Are you suggesting that this modified laser printer is not only superior to a 20 pound purpose built shredder, but is actually so good that it could actually replace secure document disposal? If not, then what are you blathering about?

    2. Re:What's the point? by FlopEJoe · · Score: 1

      The point is they used a printer that didn't print and turned it into a shredder feeder. I'd like one for that pile of end-of-the-year crap I shred at home. Save me the hassle of feeding my shredder a few pages at a time.

    3. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are my hero.
      From this point forward. All projects and DIY hacks and experiments should be banned. There is no reason anyone in the world should do such things at all and anyone is does this tinkering shall be considered a fool.

      Thank you for your logical and thoughtful input and clearing up any confusion anyone may have about experimenting.

      I built a pretty nice looking wishing well for a lawn ornament out of left over landscape ties. I am an idiot because I could have bought one. Man i feel stupid now.

    4. Re:What's the point? by Migraineman · · Score: 2, Funny

      See, by actually building stuff yourself, you deprive business owners of the profits that they're pretty much about to be guaranteed by upcoming crappy legislation. So by by building instead of buying, you're damaging the economy.

      You're not a fool ... you're gonna be labeled ... a TERRORIST !!!

      {cue Monty Python Lumberjack music}

      Oh, I'm a Terrorist and I'm okay,
      I scheme at night, and I plot all day.

      {a group of riot police show up for the chorus}

      Oh, he's a Terrorist and he's okay,
      He schemes at night, and he plots all day.

      I blow things up, I train at camp,
      I hate all different than me.
      On Wednesdays I go shopping, and have buttered scones for tea.

      {chorus}
      He blows things up, he trains at camp,
      He hates all different than me.
      On Wednesdays he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea.

      I kill random folks, I skip and jump,
      I think of the afterlife for hours,
      I like to put on women's clothing, and hang around in bars.

      {chorus}
      *CLICK* *CLICK* *CLICK* (sounds of rounds being chambered)

    5. Re:What's the point? by DrXym · · Score: 1
      So all the paper you shred fits flat and exactly into paper tray? No receipts, flight tickets, staples, crumpled / folded bits, tear offs or anything else that would jam or not feed properly? Me neither.


      It's a pointless project, pure and simple. The stupidest part is you need to buy shredders and gut a large laser printer in order to complete it.

    6. Re:What's the point? by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

      The point is that that shredder will only shred a few pages at a time (maybe 1-5), but the modified printer can shred hundreds of pages automatically. This might not be useful in a potentially malicious environment, such as the govt., in a small business case, where the stuff to be shredded is basically to protect your identity, etc. it would be useful.

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    7. Re:What's the point? by Danga · · Score: 1

      It's a pointless project, pure and simple.

      Hey asshat, maybe for you it is a pointless project but for people who have A LOT of documents to shred (most offices) that do fit flat, exactly into a paper tray this is a cheap and not too difficult project to accomplish. If someone has a broken laser printer that can be used in this project then what makes it so pointless to do that? Way to make yourself look like a moron.

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    8. Re:What's the point? by DrXym · · Score: 1

      No, it's a pointless project full stop. That you get so upset about it and resort to namecalling is neither here nor there.

    9. Re:What's the point? by Danga · · Score: 1

      How exactly is it pointless project if you do have a need to shred a lot of papers that will fit in its feeder? I personally do not have a need for it but it would work perfectly for that purpose. Explain the alternative to re-using, instead of discarding a broken printer and modifying it into something useful that renders this project worthless.

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    10. Re:What's the point? by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Because no one, not an office, not an individual, has a stack of unstapled paper of the same size, that is unfolded, uncrumpled and fits neatly into a tray. Paper gets dogearred, stapled, torn, folded, taped. Paper comes in a variety of sizes and thicknesses - receipts, business cards, ticket stubs, envelopes, dockets, legal, sticky notes, letter, A4.


      As to the alternative, the alternative is to buy a shredder which can take 10 sheets of paper at a time. I believe they can be had for quite reasonable amounts of money. Even my lowly shredder can cope with 5 sheets. It would take a massive ten minutes or so of someone's time to shred a large pile of paper - probably the same amount of time you would spend to pick all the staples out of bits of paper, unfolding corners and neatly lining them up in a tray so it goes through franken-shredder without jamming.


      As to what do with a broken printer - that depends how it's broken. It's not beyond the realms of science to pick up another broken printer and cannibalize the two into one working printer. Since the article suggests you need to buy a printer from ebay anyway, that seems a considerably better idea to me. Better yet, show how an old printer could be modded up with embedded Linux / CUPs.

  14. Duplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm waiting for the duplex version of this mod, so I can print then shred my documents in one go, Futerama bureaucrat style.

    1. Re:Duplex by Sique · · Score: 1

      Just buy a shrinter.

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  15. And the OS? by rasty · · Score: 3, Funny

    How come I was expecting the article to be about installing Linux on the printer?

    1. Re:And the OS? by NathanM412 · · Score: 1

      That sounds nice and everything, but I'm still trying to install a printer on my Linux machine.

  16. Just Dumb by Junior+Samples · · Score: 0

    This is as dumb as it gets.

  17. Toms hardware did it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Did everyone miss that? It's here: http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20050803/index.h tml

    1. Re:Toms hardware did it first by Alystair · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you bothered READING the first page of the site, this was actually the source of the Tom's Hardware "guide"...

      "This project was featured on 8/3/05 on toms hardware's "how to" section."

  18. Great boon for document security... by StressGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now instead of deleting pdf documents I can just print them to the shredder.

    The sad thing is, if I say that out loud here, it would probably become office policy.

    Speaking of shredders, I remember seeing a handheld, wand-shaped, shredder for sale once. My first thought was that this was a dumb idea. Then, I realized that they would be perfect for those goobers that are constantly shoving flyers at you when you walk into a shopping mall or down city streets. I can just see how the interaction would go:

    [goober] Would you like a flyer explaining our cause to fight discrimination against people with excessive ear hair? It's also good for 10% off a facial a Chez Whositz.

    [me] Sure, thanks! {immediately runs it through handy shredder}

    [goober] you're an asshole, you know that?

    [me] {chuckling to myself}...yea....

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    1. Re:Great boon for document security... by tomlouie · · Score: 1

      > [me] Sure, thanks! {immediately runs it through handy shredder}

      That just takes care of the one flyer. Better to run the goober through a woodchipper.

      Better yet, follow the money trail and keep sticking them into the chipper.

    2. Re:Great boon for document security... by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      Earhair discrimination must be stopped!!! You Insensitive Clod

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    3. Re:Great boon for document security... by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Look up the Dilbert strip for April 29th 1992. :) It's not available on the Dilbert website, it seems (they only go back one month - shame), but if you have the books, you should be able to find it.

      You're not the first one to have this idea. :)

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    4. Re:Great boon for document security... by StressGuy · · Score: 1

      I have to express a certain fascination that you can ID a 13 year old comic strip to the day...and yea, assuming we are talking about the hand held shredder (which I think I saw on ThinkGeek), it does kinda sound like Dogbert or possibly a Dilbert thing now that you mention it.

      Back in those days however, I was more a "Calvin and Hobbs" and "Bloom County/Outland" guy.

      Cheers,

      Joe

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    5. Re:Great boon for document security... by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      *s* Well, I just remembered this strip because I thought it was rather funny, and then took a Dilbert book and looked it up again. ^_~

      Anyhow, in that strip, Dilbert's handing an urgent document to the boss, who promptly proceeds to shred it in his portable shredder, and, when Dilbert remarks how much he hates that thing, asks whether Dilbert's tie's made of silk.

      I think it fits perfectly with the boss' personality. :)

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  19. Quick!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody!! Quick!! Load it into the Coral cache before their server explodes!

    Phew..

  20. can't be too tough by mschoolbus · · Score: 0

    difficulty: experanced

    Is it as difficult as spelling?

  21. What, no laser? by Poromenos1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bah, it would be cool if they used the laser to shred the papers into tiny little confetti. Then we could begin the whole "printers with lasers on their heads" comment storm!

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    1. Re:What, no laser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had assumed that was the point of using a laser printer. Just putting a shredder mechanism inside of a laser printer's case is lame. I can only assume that, considering the time the project took to complete, that it would have been cheaper to buy a $99 shredder at Office Max.

    2. Re:What, no laser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "storm" is so insensitive right now. Please use "tornado".

      Thanks

    3. Re:What, no laser? by Danga · · Score: 1

      Haha, I had the same thought too. I think the fire hazards would outweigh the benefits though!

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    4. Re:What, no laser? by FLEB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For that matter, why not mod the printer to have a small incinerator inside it. Of course, you'd need ventilation and fireproofing, but you'd have a much more secure system of document disposal. :: Waits eagerly to see whether this gets modded "Insightful" or "Funny" first ::

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    5. Re:What, no laser? by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that would be cool.

      "boss, I'd like to buy this new ultrasecure shredder. It uses a laser to completely obliterate the document. The only snag is that we'd need to have a 2.5 kA/400V feed brought in."

  22. Cheap? by halleluja · · Score: 1

    The parts may be cheap, but the time spent on this tweak probably costs more than shipping & shredding in China (or dumping half-way).

    1. Re:Cheap? by Taladar · · Score: 1

      And here I thought shredding was about keeping the printed information inside the company.

    2. Re:Cheap? by halleluja · · Score: 1
      And here I thought shredding was about keeping the printed information inside the company.
      No. E.g. my current employer hires a specialized firm for shredding. This firm collects the papers once a week and destroys them (I presume) at another location.
  23. The perfect device for the Bush administration by gearmonger · · Score: 4, Funny
    Wow, this is what the White House have been wanting for a long time: a printer that will immediately shred everything it prints. No more pesky Freedom of Information Act requests, no sir!


    Dearest Mods: No, this is not a troll, just a potentially lame attempt at humor. This is a troll.

    1. Re:The perfect device for the Bush administration by Elitist_Phoenix · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey isn't that a Flowers By Irene van parked outside yourhouse?

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  24. Mr. Zulu by Underholdning · · Score: 2, Funny

    Set laser printers on stun!

    1. Re:Mr. Zulu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's "Mr. Sulu" you dipshit.

    2. Re:Mr. Zulu by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      African tribesmen don't have laser printers, you insensitive clod!

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  25. Heh, completely pointless by youngerpants · · Score: 4, Funny
    Becasue printers use stepped motors, from TFA


    "This motor is actually scavenged from an additional paper shredder"


    Sooo, take one functioning printer, one functioning shredder, combine the two and what do you have; one functioning shredder that looks like a printer and a pile of spare parts


    I love mods for mods sake :)

    1. Re:Heh, completely pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is that he took a 5 sheet shredder and an old printer and made a high capacity shredder (I dont know how many sheets the xerox holds but probably hundreds).

    2. Re:Heh, completely pointless by Cyn · · Score: 1

      hmmmm capacity or throughput? All it amounts to is he uses the printer to feed the weak shredder. It'll still take ages - it can just be done unattended. It's just an automatic feeder.

      I shudder at the thought of a paper jam in that beast.

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    3. Re:Heh, completely pointless by justforaday · · Score: 1

      I shudder at the thought of a paper jam in that beast.

      Why? Afraid that your page is going to come out whole?

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    4. Re:Heh, completely pointless by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1

      Correction - two functioning shredders. He used one as the actual shredder, and ripped the motor out of the second...

    5. Re:Heh, completely pointless by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the time I was reading this list of cooking ingredient alternatives (explaining what to use in place of a given ingredient if you didn't have any of the called for ingredient left). If the recipe calls for one egg, but you don't have any, then just use two egg yolks...

    6. Re:Heh, completely pointless by cfuse · · Score: 1
      I love mods for mods sake :)

      It isn't finished until its got a window and a cold-cathode light.

  26. Re:Must say it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what the fuck does f$ck mean?

  27. Why not cross-cutting.... by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...since a cross-cut unit isn't that much more than a strip unit. The guy says he doesn't need cross cut... well, perhaps.

    But consider this; assume the shredder takes a vertically-aligned piece of A4/US-Letter paper. That's not too bad if you've printed the document in the same orientation.

    On the other hand, if you've printed the document as 'landscape' (or simply fed it in that way), the text is rotated by 90 degrees, and it's quite possible to get a COMPLETE LINE OF TEXT LEFT INTACT. Sure, it might get cut in half. Or it *might not*... and this is a near-certainty if you have one of those cheap shredders that only does really wide strips (7-8mm). Not to mention that the latter, assuming the documents in the bin haven't become too mixed, will be relatively easy to reconstruct because there are so few pieces.

    In addition, feeding the paper 'correctly' (as a printer mechanism would) improves the alignment and hence *increases the problem*!

    I bought a cross-cut shredder which reduces to fairly small pieces (4 x 22mm). Although it might be possible to have some meaningful information remain intact (e.g. a short account number), this is far less probable. Even if this happens, as it's not part of a long run of text, the context and meaning will be separated (e.g. the account number might not be recognised as such), and unless someone *really* knows what they're looking for, they'll probably miss it.

    Plus, they have *many* more pieces to search through, and they're easier to mix up if you're really paranoid.

    Yeah, the FBI could still get your information if they got their hands on the shredded paper (I bet they have pretty advanced 'stitching' software and the money to pay people to scan the pieces properly), but there's little information I have that the FBI couldn't find far easier in another manner. It'll stop everyone else, and that's good enough for what I use it for.

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    1. Re:Why not cross-cutting.... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > I bought a cross-cut shredder which reduces to fairly small pieces
      > (4 x 22mm). Although it might be possible to have some meaningful
      > information remain intact (e.g. a short account number), this is far
      > less probable. Even if this happens, as it's not part of a long run of
      > text, the context and meaning will be separated (e.g. the account number
      > might not be recognised as such), and unless someone *really* knows what
      > they're looking for, they'll probably miss it.

      Dude, at this level of paranoia, why not also incinerate the pieces and then run the ashes through a blender full of sulfuric acid set to "frappe"? I mean, sure, it's overkill, but you can never have too much overkill, right?

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    2. Re:Why not cross-cutting.... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      This isn't really paranoia. A sideways-inserted bank statement shredded into relatively wide (non-crosscut) strips still has a worryingly high chance of containing lots of information intact, in context and *at a glance*.

      The cross-cut shredder *won't*, and that's the point I was trying to prove. You *might* be able to determine what the shredded piece was originally part of (e.g. photo, bank statement etc.), but I wouldn't lose sleep over anyone being able to extract any useful information from it.

      And if considering the possibilities is 'paranoia', stick with your cheap wide-strip shredder, but don't be surprised if the information remains intact. And I don't see why the makers of the bulk shredder didn't bother fitting a cross-cut, for all the difference in price.

      Your suggestion might be relevant if the FBI were after you, but they'd call your bank for that sort of info, so why bother?

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    3. Re:Why not cross-cutting.... by SysGoddess · · Score: 1
      If the FBI, or whomever, wants to go fishing around in my compost heap or worm bin for the output from our shredders (1 a crosscut and 1 a strip cutter) they're welcome to whatever information they can come up with.

      After the output goes into the compost heap it's hosed down and makes a nice thick mulch for the layer of food and yard waste beneath it and a base for the layer above it. We've even used the output under weedblock as additional mulch when putting in new flowerbeds where it helps loosen our overly compacted souther clay soil. It breaks down very quickly and the worms love the stuff. Need I say more?

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    4. Re:Why not cross-cutting.... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > A sideways-inserted bank statement

      You throw out bank statements? I keep those on file...

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    5. Re:Why not cross-cutting.... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Yeah; so do I. Bad example... there is, however, plenty of stuff with information almost as useful as bank statements that I normally wouldn't keep.

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    6. Re:Why not cross-cutting.... by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Plus, they have *many* more pieces to search through, and they're easier to mix up if you're really paranoid.

      If you leave even little bits left behind, then I suggest you're not paranoid enough!

      I use a truly secure document destruction method. First, I rip the papers by hand into shreds (because I don't own a shredder), then I put the papers into my food processor, add some hot water, and let it blend it into pulp. Then I flush the pulp down the toilet.

      Not only are there not any strips of anything left to reconstruct, but even if there was, you'd have to fetch them from the sewers to do it. Good luck!

    7. Re:Why not cross-cutting.... by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 1
      This isn't really paranoia. A sideways-inserted bank statement shredded into relatively wide (non-crosscut) strips still has a worryingly high chance of containing lots of information intact, in context and *at a glance*.

      As you said, cross-shred it :)

      Acutally, it's not paranoia at all.. A quick ("advanced") google for software to reconstruct shredded documents will provide all the tools necessary for someone who wants to read your 1-dimensionally-shredded documents. I know for a fact that the Norwegian Economic Crime unit of the police (or whatever that translates to in English) have used it with success on several occations. That is for shredders that cuts into strips, not uncountable small squares. One of their special investigators lectured at my college :)

      Btw, cheers mates! :) (Disclaimer: Any inconsitency of this post is to blame solely on Glenfiddich, and lots of it)
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  28. Reminds me of a joke I read.. by eyeball · · Score: 5, Funny

    A young executive is leaving the office late one night when he finds the CEO standing over the shredder with a piece of paper in his hand.

    "This is a very sensitive official document," says the CEO. "My secretary's gone for the night. Can you make this thing work?"

    "Sure," says the junior exec as he turns on the shredder and hits the start button.

    "Great," says the CEO. "I just need one copy."

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  29. arent paper shreders insecure as well by epaton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    im sure i remeber hearing about a system where you scan in all the shreds of paper and software reassembles the edges to recreate the documents. now quite apart from the fact that a paper shreder can be bought for pennys, wouldnt it be far more use to have the printer just to print a huge black box or just go up to the roof with a trash can and matches.

    1. Re:arent paper shreders insecure as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is true, at the moment the german government is using a massive lab to reconstruct shredded documents of east germany. this has actually led to some controversy, as quite a few people have been exposed as former Stasi employees (including a university professor)a number of years after the nation's collapse.

    2. Re:arent paper shreders insecure as well by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I did some work with a company that handles a lot of confidential paper for other people - they provide off-site, secure, storage, and are responsible for destroying things after they are no longer required. Their solution is to dump everything into a swimming pool which contains bleach (as well as water). This destroys cheap paper almost instantly, and more bleaches the ink from more expensive paper. Periodically the paper mulch is removed and turned into new paper.

      I've wondered if this could be used on a smaller scale in conjunction with a conventional shredder - simply have the shredder empty into a bucket of water where the small bits will quickly lose their shape and become impossible to put back together.

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    3. Re:arent paper shreders insecure as well by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I've wondered if this could be used on a smaller scale in conjunction with a conventional shredder - simply have the shredder empty into a bucket of water where the small bits will quickly lose their shape and become impossible to put back together.

      I remember a gadget sold aboot 20 years ago that you put old newspaper into, added water, then it squeezed this into "logs" which you put aside to dry. In winter time, burns like wood. (Normal paper burns too fast for a fireplace, you have to keep feeding in handfuls.)

    4. Re:arent paper shreders insecure as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A university professor supporting communist dictators? Say it isn't so!

  30. Oblig. by TCM · · Score: 5, Funny

    "PC Load Letter"? What the fuck does that mean?

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    1. Re:Oblig. by chivo243 · · Score: 1

      either it is a good joke, or you have never dealt with A4 paper... or been out of America?

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    2. Re:Oblig. by WillyMF1 · · Score: 1
      either it is a good joke, or you have never dealt with A4 paper... or been out of America?

      Its from office space. It's funny movie. http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=203583 51&trkid=181026

  31. Ultimate BOFH LART. by krtek · · Score: 1

    Why not to make a shredder from a Xerox photocopier?

    Once in my former work I was a consultant and part of my job was to obtain weekly timesheet reports signed by local employee. Other duties involved shredding some sensitive documents which needed to be destroyed (no, I wasn't working for Enron). The catch: shredder was standing next to photocopy machine. From the day one I was sure disaster just has to happen, this way or another.

    (No it hadn't happen for me, but as far as I know, devices still stand next to each other).

    1. Re:Ultimate BOFH LART. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Maybe there's a market for a third-party device to prevent such confusion. Like a big red sticker with "This is a shredder" written on it.

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  32. Re:Eskimos by lcsjk · · Score: 1

    Those are Eskimos from France, aren't they?

  33. Printer v Shredder by Ruprecht+the+Monkeyb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reminds me of the time we got the high speed paper shredder and put it in the copy room next to the high speed band printer. The other tech and I looked at each, grinned, and promptly fed the output from the continous feed printer into the input of the shredder. It was a close race, but the shredder won, proving conclusively that it is easier to destroy than create.

  34. PC Load Letter... by BustaRhymes · · Score: 1

    WTF does that mean? :-P

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  35. Re:Where's the challenge? by rathehun · · Score: 1
    You are behind the times aren't you?

    http://www.hp.com/Click Here!

    R.

  36. I could use this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everybody's joking, but I've got a box full of credit card offers and such to shred. Everybody says don't just throw them out, the identity-theft guys will get you. But I didn't have a shredder, so for years I've been saving the things in this big box. Now I have a shredder, and it's a decent one that can shred a whole 9 sheets at a time...and this is taking me frikken forever. I need an automatic feeder!!

    1. Re:I could use this by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      You do realize that fire works too, right?

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    2. Re:I could use this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Living in an apartment makes that a little more of a hassle.

    3. Re:I could use this by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Nonsense! That just makes it more fun!

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  37. Half-a$$ed job! by Zemplar · · Score: 2, Funny

    For a cost of "$200-$800" and they couldn't even get it to cross-cut shred!

    Nor does it run NetBSD. I've got this great toaster that....

  38. difficulty: experanced by MerlinTheWizard · · Score: 2, Funny

    "experanced", yeah...

    Something between esperance and rancid? ;-)

  39. MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing insightful here is that the parent can't be bothered to read before commenting.

  40. Easy mod... by Broken+Bottle · · Score: 1

    Big deal, the HP in our office automatically becomes a high volume paper shredder if it isn't cleaned every 3 months or so...

    Chris

  41. Fax shredded by Darth_brooks · · Score: 1

    I'm thinking of swapping out our fax machine with one of these, then keeping a log to see how long it takes before someone notices........

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  42. Big deal by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 1

    Epson MX-80s did this over twenty years ago.

  43. Geeks should lern howe to spel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    cost: $200-800
    difficulty: experanced
    time : 4.5 hours
    coolness : shreddy goodness

    geek score: 7.00

    Not that I would have spent my precious time doing the project, but for someone who can use a soldering iron, flip bits, etc., surely can fire up a spell-checker with their favorite word processor.

  44. More mundane than the title led me to believe by CubicleView · · Score: 1

    I had visions of a laser printer with the laser cranked up so much that it sliced the page to bits. Too much Austin Powers I guess :(

  45. Similar to our printer names by whyde · · Score: 3, Funny

    We have printers on our network with the following names:

    shredder
    pc_load_a4
    toner_low
    paper_jam
    warming_up
    fax_machine

    The helpdesk tickets are rather amusing.

  46. OLD OLD NEWS by Skeetskeetskeet · · Score: 0

    Toms Hardware Guide had this about a month ago. Keep up with the times.

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  47. Not On First Page Of This Site MORON by Skeetskeetskeet · · Score: 0

    Learn to read idiot.

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  48. I had an Epson that would do this by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 1

    I was the most absurd design ever. It would print the page fine. Once it was done you would have to grab it immediately or it would suck the page back in and screw it up into one of those fan things.

    I can't see what the point of having the roller reverse direction at the end of printing is except to deliberately increase the number of pages that people woud print.

    It eventually died because no one designed a switch to make it refuse to print when the paper out lid was closed.

  49. Okay, getting anal here, but... by Quila · · Score: 1

    The shredder engine they used is a far cry from what would be certified to shred Top Secret (as you see on their paper) documents.

  50. How fun would this be though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sneak in and replace the old printer with a modded one. Watch the confusion as people try to print and copy. There would be many confused people in my office.

  51. Old news... by AnomaliesAndrew · · Score: 1

    Google has a room full of these sytems linked with the GFS to handle shredding all the paperwork in violation of SEC regulations...

    I suspect Enron also had been in the process of making similar modifications...

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  52. Re:Where's the challenge? by rbarreira · · Score: 1

    So they convert shredders to laser printers there?

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  53. OB office space by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

    "PC Loadletter? WTF is PC Loadletter??"

  54. The BOFH by zlogic · · Score: 1

    The BOFH would have definetly liked that.
    "Insert your paper upside down to print on the other side. Oh, not again! You know, this printer appears to be faulty. Never mind, that document was crap anyway."

  55. I can remember by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    At one place of employment we had a shredder that you could feed a good sized phone book into and get confetti out the other end.

    I loved that machine, particularly when I left the job. All my file cabinets went through that shredder.

    The only mod I'd make to the original is a cross cutter as strips can be re-assembled with a little bit of effort.

    However, re-assembling confetti is a whole lot harder.

  56. What a disappointment by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1


    I thought this was going to be a cool mod. Instead the guy bought a shredder from Wal-Mart and stuffed it in the printer shell. My hope was the guy tweaked the laser so it would cut paper. Oh well...

  57. Photocopier, my arse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ouch! I feel sorry for the person who decides to photocopy their bum!

  58. how to.... by KillShill · · Score: 1

    convert a cpu into a backscratcher, next on the award-winning 10 o'clock news.

    it's certainly cool but i don't ever wanna turn an expensive laser printer into a paper shredder, which i can pick up for 8 bucks.

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  59. Dissappointing by Jeremi · · Score: 1

    It only shreds paper? A proper "anti-printer" would take a stack of printed documents and convert it into a stack of blank paper and a full ink cartridge. Now that would be useful.

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  60. Re:Eskimos by neomajic · · Score: 0

    Nuttin' better than a hot French-Eskimo kiss.

  61. Some things money can't buy... by eviljolly · · Score: 1

    XEROX 3450/B Laser Printer: $500
    Aurora 5 Sheet Strip-Cut Paper Shredder: $15
    Other assorted parts: $20

    Having the boss pay you on company time to do something you would do on your own for free anyway?: Priceless...

  62. Finally! by TClevenger · · Score: 1

    A use for those old inkjet printers. Bolt the shredder to the output and send the thing 100 form feeds. No circuit layout required.

  63. Re:Where's the challenge? by rathehun · · Score: 1
    You must be new here sir...

    Have you ever used a HP Deskjet?

  64. Can you imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a Beow...