As many others have suggested, you should play on your own. I'd still take the class though. Set up a small network BEFORE going to the class, though. Then you will have intelligent questions to ask, and you will have some goals in your training.
In your work lab get 2-3 computers. Set up a linux box as a DHCP and DNS server, then maybe add apache, samba, etc. These are the things that you'll likely be using linux for in the enterprise, right? You can play with firewalling and IPSec if that is your thing too.
Has it occurred to you that we're losing our edge, not because outsourcing, but because we haven't been working very hard to keep it? Our education system is in shambles, our young people are complete morons, and we as a culture pretty much revile the educated and glorify the average.
As much as I love them, I blame a lot of this on computers. Instead of being interested in actually programming, or being more involved in sports or music, kids vegetate in front of the screen browsing web sites all night instead.
Before we had this distraction, kids participated in activities that contributed to mental stimulation. Chess and other games, socializing with a good game of 'king of the hill', wrestling, running, programming the computers instead of just using them, reading books, etc.
Why can't they ever just say "We need a way for soldiers to easily cast an absentee ballot" and then let people who know what they are doing come up with the proper system?
"linux" is not a company. Nor is it leveraging monopoly power to give itself away just to drive others out of business.
M$ is a bunch of criminals. You'd think that companies wouldn't want to to business with criminals. But then again, I guess they get forced to just as was found in the findings of fact. Business as usual for microsoft.
we do the same here with sendmail + mimedefang. The reject/drop occurs as soon as spammage is detected. Combined with spamassassin, it is a good system.
For example, here is a list of messages that we completely discarded yesterday (in other words, they were dumped before we even bothered invoking our spamass or antivirus routines):
Barricuda tried to sell to us, but quite frankly, our existing system built on sendmail/mimedefang/spamass is working great. Barricuda admitted that they couldn't beat what we are doing ourselves.
Seems like a good idea. Too bad for Microsoft that most linux admins already know windoze inside and out and can already speak to the benefits of one system over the other. Microsoft, once again, a follower and not a leader.
You learn much more than just how to type. You learn how to type properly (2 spaces after a period, same with zip codes, etc), posture, manual formatting, letter formats, and of course typing speed. Maybe it only needs to be 1/2 a semester or whatever, but it is much better to have a typing class than a word processing or spreadsheet class (those are things students should learn on their own, if they are so inclined..and probably will, if they have the motivation, to use in their other classes).
I don't think "computer science" or "computer skills" has any place in high school at all. Provide a public lab for kids to explore on their own.
I somehow managed to earn a degree in Aerospace Engineering without having any such courses in high school or college (ok, I was forced to take fortran, but I didn't really learn the language, I learned more about numerical methods than anything). They were available, but I tended to know more than the instructor at that point. Supporting computer programs (spreadsheets, word processors) we were expected to figure out on our own.
I do, however, use the typing skills that I learned in plain old typing class on a daily basis. Those skills have definitely helped me to be better with computers (my fingers can keep up with my head) than any computer-specific classes ever would.
I don't believe that classes should be taught for things that can be picked up by anybody with an interest. Spreadsheets/word processors/etc all fall into this category.
Now, if you want to teach the kids the basics of electronics, signal processing, logic gates, etc, then you'll get no argument from me.
My bank is in texas (USAA). I live in Pennsylvania. ATMs is the only way I can do this. For any deposits, I simply mail to the bank. Everything else through their website. What is the problem, again?
I believe sans does still provide wifi. Blackhat and defcon certainly do. Good luck even using defcon's, though, with all of the kiddies and their disassociation tools.
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She's nude in taking lives too (at least the director's cut..that's the one I rented).
In your work lab get 2-3 computers. Set up a linux box as a DHCP and DNS server, then maybe add apache, samba, etc. These are the things that you'll likely be using linux for in the enterprise, right? You can play with firewalling and IPSec if that is your thing too.
After the initial install, go here to learn the rest:
The Linux Documentation Project
The basic sysadmin guide there will give you the basics, and the specific howto's are great for setting up DHCP, DNS, etc.
Another good guide:
IBM Linux Newbie Guide
Set up that small net, play, learn, then go to your class and learn a lot more.
Have fun!
As much as I love them, I blame a lot of this on computers. Instead of being interested in actually programming, or being more involved in sports or music, kids vegetate in front of the screen browsing web sites all night instead.
Before we had this distraction, kids participated in activities that contributed to mental stimulation. Chess and other games, socializing with a good game of 'king of the hill', wrestling, running, programming the computers instead of just using them, reading books, etc.
Mountain bikes! :)
Why can't they ever just say "We need a way for soldiers to easily cast an absentee ballot" and then let people who know what they are doing come up with the proper system?
This is a problem where I work as well.
M$ is a bunch of criminals. You'd think that companies wouldn't want to to business with criminals. But then again, I guess they get forced to just as was found in the findings of fact. Business as usual for microsoft.
Isn't she the idiot lawyer from a few weeks ago who was bullying the owner of katie.com?
For example, here is a list of messages that we completely discarded yesterday (in other words, they were dumped before we even bothered invoking our spamass or antivirus routines):
Barricuda tried to sell to us, but quite frankly, our existing system built on sendmail/mimedefang/spamass is working great. Barricuda admitted that they couldn't beat what we are doing ourselves.
Or, if they are going to clone something, at least make it something worth cloning like OS/2's workplace shell.
http://www-3.ibm.com/ibm/easy/eou_ext.nsf/Publish/ 6
strong, fast, cheap. Pick two.
Seems like a good idea. Too bad for Microsoft that most linux admins already know windoze inside and out and can already speak to the benefits of one system over the other. Microsoft, once again, a follower and not a leader.
I'm not a consumer. I'm a %$@#! citizen.
Somebody should write a book and name it "aftab.com" and then sue the lawyer to give up her domain name.
Or encode your messages in spam...
I don't think "computer science" or "computer skills" has any place in high school at all. Provide a public lab for kids to explore on their own.
I somehow managed to earn a degree in Aerospace Engineering without having any such courses in high school or college (ok, I was forced to take fortran, but I didn't really learn the language, I learned more about numerical methods than anything). They were available, but I tended to know more than the instructor at that point. Supporting computer programs (spreadsheets, word processors) we were expected to figure out on our own.
I do, however, use the typing skills that I learned in plain old typing class on a daily basis. Those skills have definitely helped me to be better with computers (my fingers can keep up with my head) than any computer-specific classes ever would.
I don't believe that classes should be taught for things that can be picked up by anybody with an interest. Spreadsheets/word processors/etc all fall into this category.
Now, if you want to teach the kids the basics of electronics, signal processing, logic gates, etc, then you'll get no argument from me.
Our soldiers (other than those posing and taking pictures torturing POW's) are not the morons. They are just doing their jobs.
If you want to call somebody names, do it to those who sent the troops over there.
My bank is in texas (USAA). I live in Pennsylvania. ATMs is the only way I can do this. For any deposits, I simply mail to the bank. Everything else through their website. What is the problem, again?
I believe sans does still provide wifi. Blackhat and defcon certainly do. Good luck even using defcon's, though, with all of the kiddies and their disassociation tools.
...I know it's in Texas, maybe in Tennessee - that says:
... shame on you.
hack me once, shame on
hack me...can't get hacked again!
--g.w. bush
Since they know where the stuff is, why don't they take action to put a stop to the actual pornography itself?
Why would a radio signal cause problems with a fuel indicator?
Your are assuming that cost is simply licensing. Linux has a lower cost to maintain.
Agreed. How are keys exchanged/updated? One of the biggest problems with WEP is that it is impossible to manage keys. So, they never change.