I don't know how much was actually spent on this trial by both MS and the justice system so far, but I would guess it has gone way over the 100million dollar mark.
All that money is just wasted on lawers and their underlings, every paralegal, every patent researcher, on both sides of this case. Money better spent either at M$ with the creation of new jobs or goverment programs designed to give money new business.
Sorry if you don't agree with me, but myself and many of my friends have been affected by this economy one way or another. I don't blame it on M$ though, I blame it on GWB and his staff of Jerry Springer guests.
Well even though it would mean a lot of milage on the bearings, the confined space and the lack of someplace for the heat to go on center spindled fan designed cause the lubricating oil to heat up and loose viscosity. At which point it just seeps through the seals. With a rim bearing fan approach you increase the amount of area for the heat to dissipitate. You could also make the rim casing out of metal and add fins to it to keep the oil cooled down.
Aside from CPU heat there is also heat caused from the fan motor's coils. When the oil is gone and the fanblades seize these get hot quickly. Their close proximity to one another in a standard fan design sorta focus the heat in one area.
That's the whole point I was trying to make. Fans fail because the oil breaks down causing the bearings to seize. I've seen them get so hot that they've actually melted plastic. I don't see that flaw in this design. Even if there is a center spindle with bearings, the coils on this fan are located far enough away from them that thermal breakdown of the oil from the heat of the motor coils isn't even an issue.
A cynical viewpoint or insightful?
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Having torn a many pcâ(TM)s apart, to the risk of slicing my hands upon the un de burred sheet metal. I have noticed 1 common elements that contribute to fan failure.
Too much heat on the oil seal
Looking at this compared to a ordinary fan, it looks as though the bearings and oil seals are evenly dispersed over the surface area of the heat sink, where most common fans have the bearings and oil seals right in the center in the middle of rising heat. Iâ(TM)m not a thermodynamics expert but I can tell you from experience that I have been able to bring many a dead CPU fans back from the dead simply by peeling the sticker off in the center and dropping a dab of oil in there.
For years I gave out old computers and my time to people I thought were smart enough to use it. This was cool as long as I was working and could afford small things for these friends such as a 20 dollar stick of ram or a modem.
Well bad economy, no money. These people continue to expect me to give it away for free despite knowing that I have a $4000 dollar a month mortgage and piling credit card debt. They come to my house, see my shiny fast computer and bitch and whine that theirs isn't as fast. Their shit constantly breaks and instead of learning something simple like put the CD in the drive, boot from it, reinstall OS they insist that I do it for them wasting 3 to 4 hours of my time for them.
I won't do it anymore. I just can't. I'm sorry Mr Katz if I sound like an elitist asshole but you try doing this for 6 years. Let's see your level of frustration after 6 years of trying to teach people the very basics of operating systems and watch in dismay as it goes in one ear and out the other. Operating systems are very simple. 1. create a partition 2. format partition 3. install OS
YET NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY THESE BRAIN DEAD UTTER WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH CANNOT LEARN THOSE 3 SIMPLE THINGS!
This last year has angered me very much at these people. The only problem that matters to them is their computer isn't as fast as mine. Doesn't matter that I gave it to them in the first place. They don't care that every month me and my wife are on the utter edge of chapter 11.
You call me an elitist for not wanting to help them anymore.
Mr. Katz, when the world stops breeding stupid people, I won't have a reason to carry this elitist attitude anymore.
Well there is one distinction to be made here that completely illegitimates his business. That's the whole SMTP open relay spam thing he's doin. He's using other peoples SMTP servers without authorization.
Robotroll this article would have been perfect for the TPL post. I'm gonna post it here just for effect...
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Well, he bragged about how much money he was making, then never really gave a monetary value. Believe it or not, T1's are allmost affordable in bakersfield at $800 dollars, that's line and ISP all in one price.
I did sorta get an idea how much he was making. I think he makes about 2k profit a month. Me personally, i've been jobless for a year but my morals got in the way of joining up in his spam scam.
Check your inbox and enjoy, if I would have posted it here I could get busted for initiating a slashdot effect, which could be convuluted as a DDOS attack. BTW know where I can find a job? --t0q
Uhh, this isn't a troll, it's a true story and it might shed somelight on how spam operators do their dirty deeds.
About 2 months ago I had the chance to take a road trip with one of my best buds to go see his father down in bakersfield. For those that don't know what bakersfield is, it's a shithole of a dirty little town somewhere between Sacramento and LA on the I5.
Now if it's a shithole of a little town, why would I in my right mind want to go there, sleep on a floor for 3 days, and eat crappy food. Well, my friends dad *supposidly* had a T1 line going into his apartment and was running spam operations from that. I told my friend that's bullshit, Ma bell don't run T1's to anything but businesses, i've ordered enough of them to know.
We got down there, I was expecing to walk in, and find a wirespeed DSL modem or something. Upon closer inspection I found a CSU/DSU and a cisco 2500 router. Holy shit this guy really did have a T1 line. I started talking to him about the legal/social ramifications of his business. After about 30 minutes of talking to him I could tell, he got a hair up his butt one day thinking spam was going to be a big money maker for him, paid someone to set him up and that was it. Not only did he not have a clue that hijacking someones SMTP server is bad, but he said SMTP servers that don't run open relays are interferring with his ability to do business and started screaming "ITS MY RIGHT TO SPAM AND ANYONE WHO TRIES TO STOP ME IS INTRUDING ON MY AMERICAN RIGHTS TO RUN A BUSINESS"
I stopped talking to him after that. He just would not accept that using someone elses server without their permission is just plain wrong. Anyways...
He started trying to talk me and my friend into getting into the business with him. I told him it would be a conflict of interest for me because I am a sysadmin of course, but I would be more than happy to watch him work to learn for myself.
His network consisted of 6 win98 machines, 1 BSD box that he had no idea what it did. They ran some windows GUI based tool called SMTPscan. Basically it had 2 boxes to input your IP range into, it would scan that range and report back usable servers. I can't remember the actual name of the program he used to send the mail with, but I remember him pasting that list from SMTP scan into it.
Also to note was his lack of a true list management system. His remove e-mails pointed back to a hotmail account so his main server would be isolated from any attacks. He would manually go into his hotmail account. These removes did nothing though, let me explain it from his point of view.
Basically when your remove yourself from a spam list, it's just for that spam. The spammer still has a list for some new product that he hasn't sent out yet, if he hasn't sent it out how can you be removed?
So this guy maintains a list of 4,000,000 e-mails and ALLWAYS spams to all of them. Legally he's found a loophole to cover his ass and can happily spam the same list as long as he's selling something different.
I just wanted to post this so everyone would know, spammers aren't really the most technically minded people. To them it's 1. Spam 2. **** 3. Profit
While to us it's 1.Spam 2.Flood someone elses server, slander some legit company by relaying pr0n spam. Eat Bandwidth 3. Profit
I hope you enjoyed this post, please mod accordingly if you did.
--toq
My Idea: Privatize the war on terrorism
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Imagine this: The Pentagon offers to transport, arm, and fuel home-built drone
aircraft to fly against Al Qaeda. Your aircraft must meet the following
requirements:
On-board GPS
On-board video capability
Must be controlled via a soon-to-be-built wireless IP network in (let's
say Somalia)
500-pound payload
From the comfort of your home, you can patrol your Pentagon-assigned territory,
and engage targets as designated by the JSTARS targeting system.
I figure the Pentagon can probably turn a profit by charging fees as they
provide what is essentially the world's most realistic flight simulator. As an
added bonus, they could sell the TV rights to the on-board video. Wouldn't it be
fun to watch "The World's Most Terrified Terrorists"? Imagine what the
MIT folks could build for this mission!
I think the most ironic part of the whole idea is that it turns the tables on
the bad guys. Under this scenario, their most terrfying time of day would be
when school gets out in the US. "Oh no! Schools out! Everyone head for
the caves!"
I see all these posts on build it yourself, none of the suggestions seem all that easy...
You can get a first generation pentium now of any speed with ram the whole 9 yards for FREE. If you live in San Jose, I would be more than happy to let you have your choice from 10 boxes I got in the garage ranging from 486 to a P120. You come pick it up its that simple.
Next you need to add some network cards, the bay network netgears do the job nice and at $20 bucks a pop at fry's it wont hurt your pocketbook.
Finally some software to run it. I recomend BBIAgent It's small, runs on a floppy, and should do everything you need it to. Very slick web based setup and java based config utility.
As far as a hub/switch/cat5 cable, well that will still cost you money. I have a tangle of blue wire in the garage that looks like animal from the muppets if he were blue, you'd be more than welcome to help yourself.
Saying that MCOM was ripping off the customer based on this bogus analysis of the system might have had a bit more to do with your longevity there.;)
Actually, my first statement does hold true, why did MCOM set the 304 register to 28.8kbps, sell the service at 28.8 speeds when, as you said, over the air speed was 100kbps. MCOM did this for years.
It wasn't the techies fault that marketing did this to the company. Ricochet honestly could have been a real contender to ISDN which was new at the time, but someone, somewhere decided it would be better to slowly throttle the modem up to keep in step with whatever the current POTS modem technology was.
I retract what I said, i'm right you sir are wrong. They could have just introduced the high speed in the beginning and cornered the market. Instead they tried to milk the customers. That was a fucked up management decision.
all I was doing was explaining to people that even though it was a wireless modem, you still had to a) plug it into the wall to charge the battery, and b) plug it into the serial port,
To which they would allways reply, "But It says wireless on the box!"
For some reason, I allways pictured the ricochet's next upgrade to be a few plutonium fuel rods.
So I guess you probably worked with John Chiponis, I liked that guy while I worked with him. There was some dead weight while I worked there, i've been sorta curious what happened to them. 2 names, Jaqueline Schumann and Rick Ried come to mind. Any info on where they went? I know Chiponis went on to become like tech support leader or something, not sure what happened to kaitlin (note kaitlin Imes if you're reading this, thanks for teaching me how the internet works, I went on to have a nice carreer after MCOM)
was going to submit this as an ask slashdot, but I said forget it.
When do I own a packet? After I request it? When the media it travels down is owned by me? When it hits my computer and the TCP/IP stack does something with it? When I sign my service agreement?
I guess RIAA thinks they always own the packet.
For about the last year I've been sharing my network with my neighbors, we all own our houses, and have given each other "right of way" to run cat5 stapled to the fence into each others houses. What started out as a simple 1 wire connection has grown to over 24 pairs of copper (i.e. 6 lines)
Each neighbor prepays 6 months in advanced, 10 dollars a month. With this money i've managed to get the bandwidth up to 1.5down and 512up. Their kids can download on napster all day long and it still wont lag my gaming connection. Not only do I share an internet connection with them, but my fileserver as well. We have a central repository for music, a phpnuke based site for updates on the network status.
Our equipment is pretty nice too, everyone has intel pro100 management cards. Our main nat server used to be a linkcyst router, but it has evolved into a k62-300 running bbiagent. (nifty little firewall on disk, bbiagent.net)
So the question of when do I own the packet comes up again.
We don't have a classC subnet, we're all using nat on the 192.168.x.x range. I thought that range was set aside as a non routable "private" network. Private as in mine, err I should say our co-op. It doesn't belong nor resemble our providers network in any way shape or form. We maintain it, upgrade it, support it, ect.
Take for example, the DSL I use now. It runs on POTS telephone service, which has not seen any signifigant change since Alexander Bell said "hello" 100 years ago. Basically whenever you make a phone call, the line between you and the person on the other end is a complete circuit. The best analogy I can make is this would be like taking a trip from LA to Chicago, with all the freeways empty except for your car during the duration of your trip. It's a complete waste of resources.
This is really turning into a long rant.
I just don't see RIAAs justification for eradicating Napster from my network.. If they want to control what kind of network I have at home, they can run the cable, and buy my hardware. Hunting down people that just want to share an internet connection is bullshit (pardon my french) and is just another way of deflecting from the REAL problem which is people are starting to wake up to the fact that what they have percieved for years as good music from the record industry is not the truth. I think it's about time people stopped accepting what the RIAA try and shleff off as good music and start demanding that they stop with the britney spears, backstreet boys and all the other crap they try and tell us is music, instead of taking it out on the customers that underwrite their business.
I don't know if you cat's are employed or not, but it would be kinda cool to get together sometime and swap some old stories about metricom. I just looked at my resume, looks like I was workin there back in 1996. Maybe we can grab some coffee sometime at the campbell coffee house.
Well tech support mainly dealt with stupid user questions, unlike n6mod who I think is a REAL technician. The kind of guy they would tell "Go hunt down this stolen laptop with these special scanners and antenna's!" Really big difference between what we do. You guys are right, I have absolutely no understanding about the network on the level you two do with all your shortwave experience.
I got a +5 on this comment the last time I posted it.
It's sort of a slap in the face to/. that this kind of shit happens here. The moderation system truly does not work, obviously n6mod deserves some moderation points too, yet the moderators don't bother browsing above 2.
It's making me think of starting a new kind of troll to overthrow the system. *DEVILISH LOOK* You two are smart enough, here's how you can help.
The current troll purposefully tries to go against the slash moderation system to achieve their goal. They use disgusting links to nefarious sites, act like children really.
What I propose is the karma troll. The karma troll must be smarter than the average troll, because they would have to catalog and sort high modded comments for later "recycling" to recieve karma.
Yes I know it sounds silly, but I think I've figured out the TRUE psychology of slashdot, time to go dig and catalog all those +5 comments:P
Why is it whenever I would dial into a poletop and check the setting it would ALLWAYS be set at 9600 baud? Remember, I worked there too, had access to the "special" version of the modem software that allowed me to do this. How the hell do you deliver 56kbps when all your poletops when they are set at 9600 baud?
Hey when did you work there? I worked in tech support when they made us live next to the storage area in the original building. Not sure of the year, my name should explain why:P
I came into the company at a time when the.com boom was just starting to happen. I was young and didn't quite understand business politics yet, so I thought it was right to point out when things are outright ripping off the customer or in the very least preventing the company from dominating the market. My "self rightousness" cost me my job.
You see my freinds, the ricochet development cycle really ended after the first modem was introduced. Sure it got smaller and faster, or so you think. The ricochet was allways capable of 128kbps speed. There was a s register that could change the modem speed to that maximum rate, but unless you were transferring from ricochet to ricochet at a distance of 100 feet or less, you would never see 128kbps from their network. This is because the poletops were set at 9600baud.
Now to understand how you can get 28.8 from poletops set at 9600 you have to understand how the ricochet network works. Basically you are surrounded by these poletops, all shooting out bits at 9600 baud, they are multiplexed together by your modem and combined to get the desired bandwidth. Thus 9600 from 3 poletops would give you 28.8. Internally people who knew about this and thought it was wrong were fired over the years. There was a lot of them trust me.
Whenever a new modem standard like 33.6 or 56k came out, metricom would release a new "Modem software upgrade" that "contained new code!" that would magically turn your 33.6 ricochet into a 28.8 one. All it did was change the default setting of that S Register, maybe some new stuff was added, but thats about it. Nothing really magical or fancy, they fired all the real engineers that created the modem in the first place long ago. All that was left was a skeletal crew that could never really improve the internal electronics design.
When they were "Upgrading the Ricochet Network!" this was nothing more than more smoke up the ass of ricochet users. The poletops speed was simply set from 9600 to anything higher. Just a stupid S register that was allways there.
I think Ricochet's real downfall wasn't the technology, when it was introduced allmost 5 years ago, it was capable of delivering 128kbps service. So the failure can only be found in the strategy used by the marketdroids. $20@month for 128kbps wireless internet service vs $20@month for a standard 28.8 isp would have sold a lot more modems than the $40@mo ricochet $20@mo standard ISP model that they took.
They did do an amazing job creating the network, just a shame that they never put that same effort into people that acually understood the internet market. People have allways gone with the cheaper ISP simply because they want to save money. Anyways I hope no heads roll from my comment.
Oh in case you're wondering what the magic s-register was, its ats304=115200. The reason they made it so slow in the beginning is back then most motherboards were using a 8250 UART, which was limited to 14.4 speeds.
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I don't know how much was actually spent on this trial by both MS and the justice system so far, but I would guess it has gone way over the 100million dollar mark.
All that money is just wasted on lawers and their underlings, every paralegal, every patent researcher, on both sides of this case. Money better spent either at M$ with the creation of new jobs or goverment programs designed to give money new business.
Sorry if you don't agree with me, but myself and many of my friends have been affected by this economy one way or another. I don't blame it on M$ though, I blame it on GWB and his staff of Jerry Springer guests.
Well even though it would mean a lot of milage on the bearings, the confined space and the lack of someplace for the heat to go on center spindled fan designed cause the lubricating oil to heat up and loose viscosity. At which point it just seeps through the seals. With a rim bearing fan approach you increase the amount of area for the heat to dissipitate. You could also make the rim casing out of metal and add fins to it to keep the oil cooled down.
Aside from CPU heat there is also heat caused from the fan motor's coils. When the oil is gone and the fanblades seize these get hot quickly. Their close proximity to one another in a standard fan design sorta focus the heat in one area.
That's the whole point I was trying to make. Fans fail because the oil breaks down causing the bearings to seize. I've seen them get so hot that they've actually melted plastic. I don't see that flaw in this design. Even if there is a center spindle with bearings, the coils on this fan are located far enough away from them that thermal breakdown of the oil from the heat of the motor coils isn't even an issue.
Having torn a many pcâ(TM)s apart, to the risk of slicing my hands upon the un de burred sheet metal. I have noticed 1 common elements that contribute to fan failure.
Too much heat on the oil seal
Looking at this compared to a ordinary fan, it looks as though the bearings and oil seals are evenly dispersed over the surface area of the heat sink, where most common fans have the bearings and oil seals right in the center in the middle of rising heat. Iâ(TM)m not a thermodynamics expert but I can tell you from experience that I have been able to bring many a dead CPU fans back from the dead simply by peeling the sticker off in the center and dropping a dab of oil in there.
Anyways thatâ(TM)s my 2cents
For years I gave out old computers and my time to people I thought were smart enough to use it. This was cool as long as I was working and could afford small things for these friends such as a 20 dollar stick of ram or a modem.
Well bad economy, no money. These people continue to expect me to give it away for free despite knowing that I have a $4000 dollar a month mortgage and piling credit card debt. They come to my house, see my shiny fast computer and bitch and whine that theirs isn't as fast. Their shit constantly breaks and instead of learning something simple like put the CD in the drive, boot from it, reinstall OS they insist that I do it for them wasting 3 to 4 hours of my time for them.
I won't do it anymore. I just can't. I'm sorry Mr Katz if I sound like an elitist asshole but you try doing this for 6 years. Let's see your level of frustration after 6 years of trying to teach people the very basics of operating systems and watch in dismay as it goes in one ear and out the other. Operating systems are very simple.
1. create a partition
2. format partition
3. install OS
YET NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY THESE BRAIN DEAD UTTER WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH CANNOT LEARN THOSE 3 SIMPLE THINGS!
This last year has angered me very much at these people. The only problem that matters to them is their computer isn't as fast as mine. Doesn't matter that I gave it to them in the first place. They don't care that every month me and my wife are on the utter edge of chapter 11.
You call me an elitist for not wanting to help them anymore.
Mr. Katz, when the world stops breeding stupid people, I won't have a reason to carry this elitist attitude anymore.
Regards
--toqer
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Well there is one distinction to be made here that completely illegitimates his business. That's the whole SMTP open relay spam thing he's doin. He's using other peoples SMTP servers without authorization.
So what? Do you have any idea how many jobless sysadmin's there are in the bay area?
Jackass.
but its 2002 man!
Robotroll this article would have been perfect for the TPL post. I'm gonna post it here just for effect...
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Well, he bragged about how much money he was making, then never really gave a monetary value. Believe it or not, T1's are allmost affordable in bakersfield at $800 dollars, that's line and ISP all in one price.
I did sorta get an idea how much he was making. I think he makes about 2k profit a month. Me personally, i've been jobless for a year but my morals got in the way of joining up in his spam scam.
Check your inbox and enjoy, if I would have posted it here I could get busted for initiating a slashdot effect, which could be convuluted as a DDOS attack.
BTW know where I can find a job?
--t0q
Yeah it was pretty damn close to that.
Uhh, this isn't a troll, it's a true story and it might shed somelight on how spam operators do their dirty deeds.
About 2 months ago I had the chance to take a road trip with one of my best buds to go see his father down in bakersfield. For those that don't know what bakersfield is, it's a shithole of a dirty little town somewhere between Sacramento and LA on the I5.
Now if it's a shithole of a little town, why would I in my right mind want to go there, sleep on a floor for 3 days, and eat crappy food. Well, my friends dad *supposidly* had a T1 line going into his apartment and was running spam operations from that. I told my friend that's bullshit, Ma bell don't run T1's to anything but businesses, i've ordered enough of them to know.
We got down there, I was expecing to walk in, and find a wirespeed DSL modem or something. Upon closer inspection I found a CSU/DSU and a cisco 2500 router. Holy shit this guy really did have a T1 line. I started talking to him about the legal/social ramifications of his business. After about 30 minutes of talking to him I could tell, he got a hair up his butt one day thinking spam was going to be a big money maker for him, paid someone to set him up and that was it. Not only did he not have a clue that hijacking someones SMTP server is bad, but he said SMTP servers that don't run open relays are interferring with his ability to do business and started screaming "ITS MY RIGHT TO SPAM AND ANYONE WHO TRIES TO STOP ME IS INTRUDING ON MY AMERICAN RIGHTS TO RUN A BUSINESS"
I stopped talking to him after that. He just would not accept that using someone elses server without their permission is just plain wrong. Anyways...
He started trying to talk me and my friend into getting into the business with him. I told him it would be a conflict of interest for me because I am a sysadmin of course, but I would be more than happy to watch him work to learn for myself.
His network consisted of 6 win98 machines, 1 BSD box that he had no idea what it did. They ran some windows GUI based tool called SMTPscan. Basically it had 2 boxes to input your IP range into, it would scan that range and report back usable servers. I can't remember the actual name of the program he used to send the mail with, but I remember him pasting that list from SMTP scan into it.
Also to note was his lack of a true list management system. His remove e-mails pointed back to a hotmail account so his main server would be isolated from any attacks. He would manually go into his hotmail account. These removes did nothing though, let me explain it from his point of view.
Basically when your remove yourself from a spam list, it's just for that spam. The spammer still has a list for some new product that he hasn't sent out yet, if he hasn't sent it out how can you be removed?
So this guy maintains a list of 4,000,000 e-mails and ALLWAYS spams to all of them. Legally he's found a loophole to cover his ass and can happily spam the same list as long as he's selling something different.
I just wanted to post this so everyone would know, spammers aren't really the most technically minded people. To them it's
1. Spam
2. ****
3. Profit
While to us it's
1.Spam
2.Flood someone elses server, slander some legit company by relaying pr0n spam. Eat Bandwidth
3. Profit
I hope you enjoyed this post, please mod accordingly if you did.
--toq
Imagine this: The Pentagon offers to transport, arm, and fuel home-built drone aircraft to fly against Al Qaeda. Your aircraft must meet the following requirements:
- On-board GPS
- On-board video capability
- Must be controlled via a soon-to-be-built wireless IP network in (let's
say Somalia)
- 500-pound payload
From the comfort of your home, you can patrol your Pentagon-assigned territory, and engage targets as designated by the JSTARS targeting system.I figure the Pentagon can probably turn a profit by charging fees as they provide what is essentially the world's most realistic flight simulator. As an added bonus, they could sell the TV rights to the on-board video. Wouldn't it be fun to watch "The World's Most Terrified Terrorists"? Imagine what the MIT folks could build for this mission!
I think the most ironic part of the whole idea is that it turns the tables on the bad guys. Under this scenario, their most terrfying time of day would be when school gets out in the US. "Oh no! Schools out! Everyone head for the caves!"
What a neat application for embedded Linux.
Another serious setback for Linux is the lack of a journalling file system.
Yes yes I know it's a troll, but could you at least be a little more accurate?
--toq
I see all these posts on build it yourself, none of the suggestions seem all that easy...
You can get a first generation pentium now of any speed with ram the whole 9 yards for FREE. If you live in San Jose, I would be more than happy to let you have your choice from 10 boxes I got in the garage ranging from 486 to a P120. You come pick it up its that simple.
Next you need to add some network cards, the bay network netgears do the job nice and at $20 bucks a pop at fry's it wont hurt your pocketbook.
Finally some software to run it. I recomend BBIAgent It's small, runs on a floppy, and should do everything you need it to. Very slick web based setup and java based config utility.
As far as a hub/switch/cat5 cable, well that will still cost you money. I have a tangle of blue wire in the garage that looks like animal from the muppets if he were blue, you'd be more than welcome to help yourself.
Good Luck!
--Toq
Saying that MCOM was ripping off the customer based on this bogus analysis of the system might have had a bit more to do with your longevity there. ;)
Actually, my first statement does hold true, why did MCOM set the 304 register to 28.8kbps, sell the service at 28.8 speeds when, as you said, over the air speed was 100kbps. MCOM did this for years.
It wasn't the techies fault that marketing did this to the company. Ricochet honestly could have been a real contender to ISDN which was new at the time, but someone, somewhere decided it would be better to slowly throttle the modem up to keep in step with whatever the current POTS modem technology was.
I retract what I said, i'm right you sir are wrong. They could have just introduced the high speed in the beginning and cornered the market. Instead they tried to milk the customers. That was a fucked up management decision.
Yup, and the karma tasted better the second time down GULP!
--toq
all I was doing was explaining to people that even though it was a wireless modem, you still had to a) plug it into the wall to charge the battery, and b) plug it into the serial port,
To which they would allways reply, "But It says wireless on the box!"
For some reason, I allways pictured the ricochet's next upgrade to be a few plutonium fuel rods.
So I guess you probably worked with John Chiponis, I liked that guy while I worked with him. There was some dead weight while I worked there, i've been sorta curious what happened to them. 2 names, Jaqueline Schumann and Rick Ried come to mind. Any info on where they went? I know Chiponis went on to become like tech support leader or something, not sure what happened to kaitlin (note kaitlin Imes if you're reading this, thanks for teaching me how the internet works, I went on to have a nice carreer after MCOM)
--toq
--toq
was going to submit this as an ask slashdot, but I said forget it.
When do I own a packet?
After I request it?
When the media it travels down is owned by me?
When it hits my computer and the TCP/IP stack does something with it?
When I sign my service agreement?
I guess RIAA thinks they always own the packet.
For about the last year I've been sharing my network with my neighbors, we all own our houses, and have given each other "right of way" to run cat5 stapled to the fence into each others houses. What started out as a simple 1 wire connection has grown to over 24 pairs of copper (i.e. 6 lines)
Each neighbor prepays 6 months in advanced, 10 dollars a month. With this money i've managed to get the bandwidth up to 1.5down and 512up. Their kids can download on napster all day long and it still wont lag my gaming connection. Not only do I share an internet connection with them, but my fileserver as well. We have a central repository for music, a phpnuke based site for updates on the network status.
Our equipment is pretty nice too, everyone has intel pro100 management cards. Our main nat server used to be a linkcyst router, but it has evolved into a k62-300 running bbiagent. (nifty little firewall on disk, bbiagent.net)
So the question of when do I own the packet comes up again.
We don't have a classC subnet, we're all using nat on the 192.168.x.x range. I thought that range was set aside as a non routable "private" network. Private as in mine, err I should say our co-op. It doesn't belong nor resemble our providers network in any way shape or form. We maintain it, upgrade it, support it, ect.
Take for example, the DSL I use now. It runs on POTS telephone service, which has not seen any signifigant change since Alexander Bell said "hello" 100 years ago. Basically whenever you make a phone call, the line between you and the person on the other end is a complete circuit. The best analogy I can make is this would be like taking a trip from LA to Chicago, with all the freeways empty except for your car during the duration of your trip. It's a complete waste of resources.
This is really turning into a long rant.
I just don't see RIAAs justification for eradicating Napster from my network.. If they want to control what kind of network I have at home, they can run the cable, and buy my hardware. Hunting down people that just want to share an internet connection is bullshit (pardon my french) and is just another way of deflecting from the REAL problem which is people are starting to wake up to the fact that what they have percieved for years as good music from the record industry is not the truth. I think it's about time people stopped accepting what the RIAA try and shleff off as good music and start demanding that they stop with the britney spears, backstreet boys and all the other crap they try and tell us is music, instead of taking it out on the customers that underwrite their business.
I don't know if you cat's are employed or not, but it would be kinda cool to get together sometime and swap some old stories about metricom. I just looked at my resume, looks like I was workin there back in 1996. Maybe we can grab some coffee sometime at the campbell coffee house.
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Lol Hi Issac,
/. that this kind of shit happens here. The moderation system truly does not work, obviously n6mod deserves some moderation points too, yet the moderators don't bother browsing above 2.
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Well tech support mainly dealt with stupid user questions, unlike n6mod who I think is a REAL technician. The kind of guy they would tell "Go hunt down this stolen laptop with these special scanners and antenna's!" Really big difference between what we do. You guys are right, I have absolutely no understanding about the network on the level you two do with all your shortwave experience.
I got a +5 on this comment the last time I posted it.
It's sort of a slap in the face to
It's making me think of starting a new kind of troll to overthrow the system. *DEVILISH LOOK* You two are smart enough, here's how you can help.
The current troll purposefully tries to go against the slash moderation system to achieve their goal. They use disgusting links to nefarious sites, act like children really.
What I propose is the karma troll. The karma troll must be smarter than the average troll, because they would have to catalog and sort high modded comments for later "recycling" to recieve karma.
Yes I know it sounds silly, but I think I've figured out the TRUE psychology of slashdot, time to go dig and catalog all those +5 comments
I stand corrected on my technical details, at least we can agree on the crappy management :)
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Then riddle me this smart guy.
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Why is it whenever I would dial into a poletop and check the setting it would ALLWAYS be set at 9600 baud? Remember, I worked there too, had access to the "special" version of the modem software that allowed me to do this. How the hell do you deliver 56kbps when all your poletops when they are set at 9600 baud?
Hey when did you work there? I worked in tech support when they made us live next to the storage area in the original building. Not sure of the year, my name should explain why
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I came into the company at a time when the .com boom was just starting to happen. I was young and didn't quite understand business politics yet, so I thought it was right to point out when things are outright ripping off the customer or in the very least preventing the company from dominating the market. My "self rightousness" cost me my job.
You see my freinds, the ricochet development cycle really ended after the first modem was introduced. Sure it got smaller and faster, or so you think. The ricochet was allways capable of 128kbps speed. There was a s register that could change the modem speed to that maximum rate, but unless you were transferring from ricochet to ricochet at a distance of 100 feet or less, you would never see 128kbps from their network. This is because the poletops were set at 9600baud.
Now to understand how you can get 28.8 from poletops set at 9600 you have to understand how the ricochet network works. Basically you are surrounded by these poletops, all shooting out bits at 9600 baud, they are multiplexed together by your modem and combined to get the desired bandwidth. Thus 9600 from 3 poletops would give you 28.8. Internally people who knew about this and thought it was wrong were fired over the years. There was a lot of them trust me.
Whenever a new modem standard like 33.6 or 56k came out, metricom would release a new "Modem software upgrade" that "contained new code!" that would magically turn your 33.6 ricochet into a 28.8 one. All it did was change the default setting of that S Register, maybe some new stuff was added, but thats about it. Nothing really magical or fancy, they fired all the real engineers that created the modem in the first place long ago. All that was left was a skeletal crew that could never really improve the internal electronics design.
When they were "Upgrading the Ricochet Network!" this was nothing more than more smoke up the ass of ricochet users. The poletops speed was simply set from 9600 to anything higher. Just a stupid S register that was allways there.
I think Ricochet's real downfall wasn't the technology, when it was introduced allmost 5 years ago, it was capable of delivering 128kbps service. So the failure can only be found in the strategy used by the marketdroids. $20@month for 128kbps wireless internet service vs $20@month for a standard 28.8 isp would have sold a lot more modems than the $40@mo ricochet $20@mo standard ISP model that they took.
They did do an amazing job creating the network, just a shame that they never put that same effort into people that acually understood the internet market. People have allways gone with the cheaper ISP simply because they want to save money. Anyways I hope no heads roll from my comment.
Oh in case you're wondering what the magic s-register was, its ats304=115200. The reason they made it so slow in the beginning is back then most motherboards were using a 8250 UART, which was limited to 14.4 speeds.