Atari was owned by Nolan Bushnell up till 1976 when time warner bought them.
Then atari was sold to jack tramiel around 83' 1986 Jack Tram sells off the coin op division to namco. 1989 Tramiel tries to do a saving throw for the company by hiring lawers and suing nintendo, sega over copyright infringements. After a series of bad products and bad decisions, Tramiel sold Atari to JTS, a floppy drive manufacturer in 1990.
Hasbro bought out JTS in 1996, and tried to reintroduce classic atari games to the marketplace.
Fairly accurate I think. Point is atari in its old capacity is gone, dead, finito. Atari only exists as intellectual property which has been sold off to so many different companies, opinions on who actually owns the right to it is confused.
Are all gone and dead I heard. My father called it the blade runner kiss of death, and I think there were a few articles about it. Basically all the big skyscrapers with the company logo's on them (i.e. Atari) all went extinct. Just something interesting I wanted to point out.
Instead of silly poll's that are meant to be a funny haha j0ke, lets get some serious polls out there. How about a poll, do you have a job? I know the poster meant to be funny, but alchohalism isn't the best way to deal with unemployment. I tried that, ended up with way too much debt (paid off now) in bar tabs.
These were all very good article's, but they are happy feel good articles, sorta like what you would see on any local news stations.
I'd like to see more articles relating to what a lot of us nerds have been going through lately. I'm talking about dealing with the current economy, unemployment, depression. Reading this posts responses one can only assume that there are a lot us out here in the same boat.
I want to see more stories about how to get through these issues. Maybe some nerd recipe sharing for those on budgets. How about articles that deal with where the money that used to go into the technology sector went. Give me something more to do with my day than hitting refresh on slashdot.org to see what new stories are there. How about stories on places nerds can use their skills in a volunteer position? There are many ways slash can help, please start doing something different.
I was going to post a link to the mercury news article I read 10 years ago but it would have cost me 3 bucks, in these times that's 3 bucks I wish I had (GWB*)
Anyways, this was around the time of NT4.0, when I believe apple, IBM, motorola, and MS pooled their resources together to make the power PC chip. One of the things I remember distincly from the article was the flaw in intels RISC chips was their single instruction pipeline to the core, while the PPC chips had 3.
This same argument/article was made later with the introduction of the G3 series of processors if memory serves me correctly.
Not intel bashing at all, in fact everything cept the TV and microwave got a intel chip in my house. Just trying to make an interesting point.
About a year or so ago, intel was doing demo's of Q3A at fry's to show off the new P4. Economy was good, I had like 4k from PTO that I aquired between jobs so I said what the hell and dropped $1500 on a 850dgb board, processor, case and 128 of ram.
I gotta say, this stuff is hot, my friends have all gone off and bought gforce3's, amd's with DDR. I thought these new cards/systems would have score winmarks well above my own (around 3800 with a gforce2gts) but I was surprised to see they only score 1000 or so more than me.
Out of curiosity, we put one of those GF3's in my system. Without fail I would score about 400 to come in around 6300 3dmarks above my buddies amd1.6. My P4 is just 1.4. Yet even with a lower clockrate the memory bandwidth made a huge difference.
I'm not trying to cause a ruckus here, anyone with deep enough pockets (or access to enough systems) can just as easily do the same testing I did. Bottom line whether or not the moderators like it is rambus systems do provide the absolute best possible performance in 3D gaming. It certainly was expensive when it came out but now with the falling prices of all ram, it's within reach of anyone that want's that extra "oomph" in thier system.
Does anyone know of any AMD boards that use rambus? I'm sorta curious what kind of scores those get in comparison to the intel one's. Anyways thats my comment.
A few years back there was a game, I think it was called Virus or something like that. It would scan your directory structure and make a map for the FPS world based on that.
Looking at the web, I allways though it would be cool to make a game based on the same concept, but use web pages instead of your hard drive directory.
Heh, im surprised, CMRC tried sucking up most of the talent pool around b2b, when they couldn't pay em anymore they secretly laid off thousands and replaced them with H1B visa robots.
I saw an entire department slowly get flushed and replaced with H1B's. Did they get cubicles? No, most of them got folding chairs and tables.
Eventually my cubicle space was targetted for termination. That and I started finding out all the dirty little secrets the upper eschelon of the IT department was doing there. I knew I was on my way out, my boss tried to get me to perk up and work my ass off before I got fired, I knew it was coming so it was get into work at 12:00 leave at 3:00 until the day came when I was let go.
It's funny how an animal knows it's being hunted by prey.
It's been a year long break from corporate life since then. Been doin php/mysql storefronts cheaply for local merchants, getting paid under the table tax free on a commision basis. Not even close to what I was making before but the stress is gone. When I was still working corporate I could count 1 white hair a month appearing on my head. Now I get a new one every 3 months.
Life here is fun, I got a mortgage, I got a few websites paying for that and my top ramen. The b2b you work for, wouldnt happen to sound like caliente would it?
Gee I spend all this time writing a nice post and the first response I get is from someone getting bent about me using the term "excuse my french"
Unless you've been living under a rock the last oh lets say 100 YEARS you would know that "pardon my french" is a common term used after any explicitives.
anyways,
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
Translate bullshit from english to french, its the same as far as the fish is concerned
I was going to submit this as an ask slashdot, but I said forget it.
When do I own a packet?
After I request it?
When the media it travels down is owned by me?
When it hits my computer and the TCP/IP stack does something with it?
When I sign my service agreement?
I guess comcast thinks they always own the packet.
For about the last year i've been sharing my network with my neighbors, we all own our houses, and have given each other "right of way" to run cat5 stapled to the fence into each others houses. What started out as a simple 1 wire connection has grown to over 24 pairs of copper (i.e. 6 lines)
Each neighbor prepays 6 months in advanced, 10 dollars a month. With this money i've managed to get the bandwidth up to 1.5down and 512up. Their kids can download on napster all day long and it still wont lag my gaming connection. Not only do I share an internet connection with them, but my fileserver as well. We have a central repository for music, a phpnuke based site for updates on the network status.
Our equipment is pretty nice too, everyone has intel pro100 management cards. Our main nat server used to be a linkcyst router, but it has evolved into a k62-300 running bbiagent. (nifty little firewall on disk, bbiagent.net)
So the question of when do I own the packet comes up again.
We don't have a classC subnet, we're all using nat on the 192.168.x.x range. I thought that range was set aside as a non routable "private" network. Private as in mine, err I should say our co-op. It doesn't belong nor resemble our providers network in any way shape or form. We maintain it, upgrade it, support it, ect.
It's really a pity that all these ISP exec's get paid so much money. That 10million a year spent for 1 CEO could buy a cheaper CEO for about 250k, and enough techs to upgrade the existing infrastructure.
Take for example, the DSL I use now. It runs on POTS telephone service, which has not seen any signifigant change since Alexander Bell said "hello" 100 years ago. Basically whenever you make a phone call, the line between you and the person on the other end is a complete circuit. The best analogy I can make is this would be like taking a trip from LA to Chicago, with all the freeways empty except for your car during the duration of your trip. It's a complete waste of resources.
Now imagine if this infrastructure was upgraded to packet switched networks. Bandwidth would become cheaper because circuits could be multiplexed, allowing many cars on the road at the same time.
With comcast, I would guess that %90 of their bandwidth on the wire is being sucked away by their old infrastructure (analogue video) You can see what a waste this is because you can only fit maybe 40 or so channels on the analogue wave, on the other hand, they have this newfangled digital cable, which uses just 1 or 2 channels of the original analogue, but because it is a packet based network, its better utilization of the bandwidth and they can fit 100-200 channels where they used to only be able to fit one.
On top of that, there is IPV6
This is really turning into a long rant.
I just don't see comcasts justification for eradicating NAT from their network.. If they want to control what kind of network I have at home, they can run the cable, and buy my hardware. Hunting down people that just want to share an internet connection is bullshit (pardon my french) and is just another way of deflecting from the REAL problem which is people are starting to wake up to the fact that what they have percieved for years as good internet service is not the truth. I think it's about time people stopped accepting what the providers try and shleff off as good service and start demanding that they upgrade their networks to handle the load, instead of taking it out on the customers that underwrite thier service.
This is really more for the moderators than anyone else, I'm maxed out on karma so i'll take a hit.
Few days ago while going through CNN I found this article http://cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/01/14/segway.jap an.reut/index.html In case you dont want to read the link i'll give you the gist of it. A japanese professor has patents on the methods used for balancing a segway scooter, in fact he made one over 15 years ago as part of robotics research. This guy is totally cool though, instead of trying to sue the segway guy he's actually agreed that if segway says he did it first, he'll hand over all related patents for a buck.
Sometimes I must consider the karmatic implacations of my actions.
burnt hands
bad odor
ciruits that just didn't etch correctly.
I can't recall how many times i've seen a really cool project in popular electronics and being hesitant to build it because its such a pain in the ass etching a board from the magazine or too cheap to order the kit.
Home printable etching has some very cool implications for the hobbyist or beginner electronics person. Kudo's to the ppl that invented this.
I went to the BSA site, and was reading the recent raids when I read this exerpt
Raided were Espina, Perez-Espina & Associates, an architectural and construction company located at the 2nd floor, The House of Architects, Juana Osmeña Ext., Cebu City, and, Arlington Engineering Services, an engineering design firm in Green Valley Subdivision, Lahug, Cebu City.
The NBI, after securing search warrants from Judge Benigno Gaviola of Cebu City Regional Trial Court, found four PCs of Espina, Perez-Espina & Associates allegedly loaded with unlicensed Adobe, Autodesk and Microsoft software. The NBI seized 13 PCs allegedly loaded with Autodesk software from Arlington Engineering Services. Total assets, including hardware and software, confiscated from the two raids was valued at almost P5 million pesos.
Well this just gives me terrified thoughts of the frito bandito crashing through my window screaming "BADGES? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN BADGES!"
400 dollars is a lot to pay for a 20 gig hard drive and some electronics. I got a solution to the price problem.
Look at your hard drive, just grab one, any of them. Turn it over, thats nice.. Now look at the electronics on the other side.
I see a 256k ram buffer chip. I see a microcontroller. I see various other parts and pieces that tell me that with a few changes in the PCB layout, there is NO reason hard drives couldn't be factory shipped with the ability to play MP3's. The hard drive im looking at is an ancient quantum 240 meg drive too. Just add your own battery and case and voila.
If maxtor, seagate, or any other ppl from a hard drive company is reading this post, please pressure you boss into doing this. It would give you a place to sell hard drives other than in computers.
My dyslexia made me read
on
The Drone War
·
· Score: 2
quote: Military historians like John Keegan have recently argued that the devastating toll of warfare
as
quote: Military historians like John Keegan have recently argued that the devastating troll of warfare
I started giggling and had to reread it just to make sure. Sure it's about as amusing as a beavis and butthead "He said penis" joke, sorry mods I kinda thought it was funny. I hope you do too.
the console crown. I really really hope the MS comes out on top in this war. Since the nintendo 8 bit gamers have been forced to watch in envy as japan is ALLWAYS first to get the NEWEST GAMES and systems. How many times did you read a gamepro, EGM or other similiar magazine, seen a game that looked totally awesome but it was going to be released japan first? It really pisses me off to the point WHERE I GOT TO TYPE IN CAPS.
I miss the good ol days when an american company was king of the console hill (i.e. atari) and i'm not very paticular who is trying to become the next american console king, even if it is LUCIFER in the eyes of the slash crew.
Slashdot Mirror
Actually,
Atari was owned by Nolan Bushnell up till 1976 when time warner bought them.
Then atari was sold to jack tramiel around 83'
1986 Jack Tram sells off the coin op division to namco.
1989 Tramiel tries to do a saving throw for the company by hiring lawers and suing nintendo, sega over copyright infringements.
After a series of bad products and bad decisions, Tramiel sold Atari to JTS, a floppy drive manufacturer in 1990.
Hasbro bought out JTS in 1996, and tried to reintroduce classic atari games to the marketplace.
Fairly accurate I think. Point is atari in its old capacity is gone, dead, finito. Atari only exists as intellectual property which has been sold off to so many different companies, opinions on who actually owns the right to it is confused.
Are all gone and dead I heard. My father called it the blade runner kiss of death, and I think there were a few articles about it. Basically all the big skyscrapers with the company logo's on them (i.e. Atari) all went extinct. Just something interesting I wanted to point out.
The above post is exactly what im talking about.
Instead of silly poll's that are meant to be a funny haha j0ke, lets get some serious polls out there. How about a poll, do you have a job? I know the poster meant to be funny, but alchohalism isn't the best way to deal with unemployment. I tried that, ended up with way too much debt (paid off now) in bar tabs.
These were all very good article's, but they are happy feel good articles, sorta like what you would see on any local news stations.
I'd like to see more articles relating to what a lot of us nerds have been going through lately. I'm talking about dealing with the current economy, unemployment, depression. Reading this posts responses one can only assume that there are a lot us out here in the same boat.
I want to see more stories about how to get through these issues. Maybe some nerd recipe sharing for those on budgets. How about articles that deal with where the money that used to go into the technology sector went. Give me something more to do with my day than hitting refresh on slashdot.org to see what new stories are there. How about stories on places nerds can use their skills in a volunteer position? There are many ways slash can help, please start doing something different.
I'm sorry but the thought of a garbage man reading /., although not impossible is a comical paradox.
In other words, its funny moderators and on topic.
--toq
1 year jobless San Jose.
Has anyone else noticed how Pro GWB the jerry springer show has become? Guess the only one's with jobs are strippers and trailer park trash.
I was going to post a link to the mercury news article I read 10 years ago but it would have cost me 3 bucks, in these times that's 3 bucks I wish I had (GWB*)
Anyways, this was around the time of NT4.0, when I believe apple, IBM, motorola, and MS pooled their resources together to make the power PC chip. One of the things I remember distincly from the article was the flaw in intels RISC chips was their single instruction pipeline to the core, while the PPC chips had 3.
This same argument/article was made later with the introduction of the G3 series of processors if memory serves me correctly.
Not intel bashing at all, in fact everything cept the TV and microwave got a intel chip in my house. Just trying to make an interesting point.
Anyone have any good learn math links?
About a year or so ago, intel was doing demo's of Q3A at fry's to show off the new P4. Economy was good, I had like 4k from PTO that I aquired between jobs so I said what the hell and dropped $1500 on a 850dgb board, processor, case and 128 of ram.
I gotta say, this stuff is hot, my friends have all gone off and bought gforce3's, amd's with DDR. I thought these new cards/systems would have score winmarks well above my own (around 3800 with a gforce2gts) but I was surprised to see they only score 1000 or so more than me.
Out of curiosity, we put one of those GF3's in my system. Without fail I would score about 400 to come in around 6300 3dmarks above my buddies amd1.6. My P4 is just 1.4. Yet even with a lower clockrate the memory bandwidth made a huge difference.
I'm not trying to cause a ruckus here, anyone with deep enough pockets (or access to enough systems) can just as easily do the same testing I did. Bottom line whether or not the moderators like it is rambus systems do provide the absolute best possible performance in 3D gaming. It certainly was expensive when it came out but now with the falling prices of all ram, it's within reach of anyone that want's that extra "oomph" in thier system.
Does anyone know of any AMD boards that use rambus? I'm sorta curious what kind of scores those get in comparison to the intel one's. Anyways thats my comment.
A few years back there was a game, I think it was called Virus or something like that. It would scan your directory structure and make a map for the FPS world based on that.
Looking at the web, I allways though it would be cool to make a game based on the same concept, but use web pages instead of your hard drive directory.
I'm just throwing out ideas.
Goin for a cheap funny. C'mon mods give it up!
Heh, im surprised, CMRC tried sucking up most of the talent pool around b2b, when they couldn't pay em anymore they secretly laid off thousands and replaced them with H1B visa robots.
I saw an entire department slowly get flushed and replaced with H1B's. Did they get cubicles? No, most of them got folding chairs and tables.
Eventually my cubicle space was targetted for termination. That and I started finding out all the dirty little secrets the upper eschelon of the IT department was doing there. I knew I was on my way out, my boss tried to get me to perk up and work my ass off before I got fired, I knew it was coming so it was get into work at 12:00 leave at 3:00 until the day came when I was let go.
It's funny how an animal knows it's being hunted by prey.
It's been a year long break from corporate life since then. Been doin php/mysql storefronts cheaply for local merchants, getting paid under the table tax free on a commision basis. Not even close to what I was making before but the stress is gone. When I was still working corporate I could count 1 white hair a month appearing on my head. Now I get a new one every 3 months.
Life here is fun, I got a mortgage, I got a few websites paying for that and my top ramen. The b2b you work for, wouldnt happen to sound like caliente would it?
Gee I spend all this time writing a nice post and the first response I get is from someone getting bent about me using the term "excuse my french"
Unless you've been living under a rock the last oh lets say 100 YEARS you would know that "pardon my french" is a common term used after any explicitives.
anyways,
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
Translate bullshit from english to french, its the same as far as the fish is concerned
I was going to submit this as an ask slashdot, but I said forget it.
When do I own a packet?
After I request it?
When the media it travels down is owned by me?
When it hits my computer and the TCP/IP stack does something with it?
When I sign my service agreement?
I guess comcast thinks they always own the packet.
For about the last year i've been sharing my network with my neighbors, we all own our houses, and have given each other "right of way" to run cat5 stapled to the fence into each others houses. What started out as a simple 1 wire connection has grown to over 24 pairs of copper (i.e. 6 lines)
Each neighbor prepays 6 months in advanced, 10 dollars a month. With this money i've managed to get the bandwidth up to 1.5down and 512up. Their kids can download on napster all day long and it still wont lag my gaming connection. Not only do I share an internet connection with them, but my fileserver as well. We have a central repository for music, a phpnuke based site for updates on the network status.
Our equipment is pretty nice too, everyone has intel pro100 management cards. Our main nat server used to be a linkcyst router, but it has evolved into a k62-300 running bbiagent. (nifty little firewall on disk, bbiagent.net)
So the question of when do I own the packet comes up again.
We don't have a classC subnet, we're all using nat on the 192.168.x.x range. I thought that range was set aside as a non routable "private" network. Private as in mine, err I should say our co-op. It doesn't belong nor resemble our providers network in any way shape or form. We maintain it, upgrade it, support it, ect.
It's really a pity that all these ISP exec's get paid so much money. That 10million a year spent for 1 CEO could buy a cheaper CEO for about 250k, and enough techs to upgrade the existing infrastructure.
Take for example, the DSL I use now. It runs on POTS telephone service, which has not seen any signifigant change since Alexander Bell said "hello" 100 years ago. Basically whenever you make a phone call, the line between you and the person on the other end is a complete circuit. The best analogy I can make is this would be like taking a trip from LA to Chicago, with all the freeways empty except for your car during the duration of your trip. It's a complete waste of resources.
Now imagine if this infrastructure was upgraded to packet switched networks. Bandwidth would become cheaper because circuits could be multiplexed, allowing many cars on the road at the same time.
With comcast, I would guess that %90 of their bandwidth on the wire is being sucked away by their old infrastructure (analogue video) You can see what a waste this is because you can only fit maybe 40 or so channels on the analogue wave, on the other hand, they have this newfangled digital cable, which uses just 1 or 2 channels of the original analogue, but because it is a packet based network, its better utilization of the bandwidth and they can fit 100-200 channels where they used to only be able to fit one.
On top of that, there is IPV6
This is really turning into a long rant.
I just don't see comcasts justification for eradicating NAT from their network.. If they want to control what kind of network I have at home, they can run the cable, and buy my hardware. Hunting down people that just want to share an internet connection is bullshit (pardon my french) and is just another way of deflecting from the REAL problem which is people are starting to wake up to the fact that what they have percieved for years as good internet service is not the truth. I think it's about time people stopped accepting what the providers try and shleff off as good service and start demanding that they upgrade their networks to handle the load, instead of taking it out on the customers that underwrite thier service.
you work for commerce one dont you? careful they read your slashdot posts.
There is a resturaunt called hobies in cupertino ca where m$ talked about overthrowing netscape. Go to eat there and see this image on your GPS.
http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicms.gif
This is really more for the moderators than anyone else, I'm maxed out on karma so i'll take a hit.
p an.reut/index.html In case you dont want to read the link i'll give you the gist of it. A japanese professor has patents on the methods used for balancing a segway scooter, in fact he made one over 15 years ago as part of robotics research. This guy is totally cool though, instead of trying to sue the segway guy he's actually agreed that if segway says he did it first, he'll hand over all related patents for a buck.
Few days ago while going through CNN I found this article http://cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/01/14/segway.ja
Sometimes I must consider the karmatic implacations of my actions.
Maybe because I don't have money to burn like you do. It costs anywhere between 100-200 dollars to get just one board made. Thats a fact.
Ahh the things I wont miss,
burnt hands
bad odor
ciruits that just didn't etch correctly.
I can't recall how many times i've seen a really cool project in popular electronics and being hesitant to build it because its such a pain in the ass etching a board from the magazine or too cheap to order the kit.
Home printable etching has some very cool implications for the hobbyist or beginner electronics person. Kudo's to the ppl that invented this.
I went to the BSA site, and was reading the recent raids when I read this exerpt
Raided were Espina, Perez-Espina & Associates, an architectural and construction company located at the 2nd floor, The House of Architects, Juana Osmeña Ext., Cebu City, and, Arlington Engineering Services, an engineering design firm in Green Valley Subdivision, Lahug, Cebu City.
The NBI, after securing search warrants from Judge Benigno Gaviola of Cebu City Regional Trial Court, found four PCs of Espina, Perez-Espina & Associates allegedly loaded with unlicensed Adobe, Autodesk and Microsoft software. The NBI seized 13 PCs allegedly loaded with Autodesk software from Arlington Engineering Services. Total assets, including hardware and software, confiscated from the two raids was valued at almost P5 million pesos.
Well this just gives me terrified thoughts of the frito bandito crashing through my window screaming "BADGES? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN BADGES!"
Lets show M$ what the /. effect really is, submit till the servers burn, no list if they have an office fire.
FSCK OFF M$
of all the soccer moms?
400 dollars is a lot to pay for a 20 gig hard drive and some electronics. I got a solution to the price problem.
Look at your hard drive, just grab one, any of them. Turn it over, thats nice.. Now look at the electronics on the other side.
I see a 256k ram buffer chip. I see a microcontroller. I see various other parts and pieces that tell me that with a few changes in the PCB layout, there is NO reason hard drives couldn't be factory shipped with the ability to play MP3's. The hard drive im looking at is an ancient quantum 240 meg drive too. Just add your own battery and case and voila.
If maxtor, seagate, or any other ppl from a hard drive company is reading this post, please pressure you boss into doing this. It would give you a place to sell hard drives other than in computers.
quote: Military historians like John Keegan have recently argued that the devastating toll of warfare
as
quote: Military historians like John Keegan have recently argued that the devastating troll of warfare
I started giggling and had to reread it just to make sure. Sure it's about as amusing as a beavis and butthead "He said penis" joke, sorry mods I kinda thought it was funny. I hope you do too.
the console crown. I really really hope the MS comes out on top in this war. Since the nintendo 8 bit gamers have been forced to watch in envy as japan is ALLWAYS first to get the NEWEST GAMES and systems. How many times did you read a gamepro, EGM or other similiar magazine, seen a game that looked totally awesome but it was going to be released japan first? It really pisses me off to the point WHERE I GOT TO TYPE IN CAPS.
I miss the good ol days when an american company was king of the console hill (i.e. atari) and i'm not very paticular who is trying to become the next american console king, even if it is LUCIFER in the eyes of the slash crew.