"The 4.0 TFT Transreflective Color display offers 240 x 320,"
The original iPhone had a 320x480 resolution.
it should become apparent that the touch-friendly UI alone would not have given momentum to the iPhone release if it was not for marketing and fanboy-ism."
Apple only sold 8 million of the original iPhones.
Seriously? When you buy an app from an app developer, they need your contact information for payment processing. That's how it's always worked, and it's hardly been a secret.
When I buy an app from iTunes, there is no reason that the developer needs (or receives) my info. Apple processes the payment, takes their cut, and forwards the rest to the developer.
Google does the payment processing, why does the app developer need my info?
Some of us actually need functionality that Apple choses not to allow. For example.. I jailbreak to get encarcerapp. It's an app that allows me to lock out the home button or even the touch screen. Then I can hand the pad to my 3 y/o daughter and she can play a game or watch a movie while I drive the car and she isn't getting herself out of the app and then asking me to get it going again every couple of seconds. Somebody at Apple decided their customers shouldn't have that sort of functionality so... have to jailbreak to get it.
Considering you have access to the user file system you just need a normal PC backup application to backup user data, and calendar, contacts and tasks are synchronized to the cloud by default whenever you connect to the Internet.
Try this test....
1. "Backup" your Android phone 2. Completely erase your phone 3. Are all of your settings, app data, icon locations in tact?
Can you just log into your Google account from a brand new phone and all of your settings, phone log history, app data, icon positions just like they were from your old phone?
In Japan...... And it doesn't count Apple stores And
The Japanese arm of market research firm IDC notes that Japan is a relatively small market, though â" according to its estimates, a total of 3.6 million tablets were sold in Japan during 2012.
And? It is relevant how? What business decisions HP makes have zero relevancy for Apple. Do you think that IBM has relevance also? Why are you spouting irrelevant nonsense?
If market share == success and the company with the largest market share in an industry is not in fact successful then wouldn't that imply that market share is not the be all and end all?
Yes, we know. Again, is it relevant that Apple grew in a single market when it fell everywhere else? Samsung took 70% of the market in Q4. That is a staggering growth. It is very scary to the folks in Cupertino. Why do you think the started their childish and absurd law suits? Samsung and Android is taking huge market share from Apple, and unless it turns around, it will have a significant impact on Apple's bottom line. Just ask Wall Street, they have already answere
So if loss of market share == loss of profit and if Android has been gaining market share and Apple's profits haven't decreased, doesn't that kind of imply that your second hypothesis is also wrong?
. Your current profits may be good, even your short term profits may be good, but if you are not a tiny niche player, market share matters a lot more since it says something about your future profits.
Fact 1: HP had the largest market share in PCs when they tried to dump their PC division
"Overall, the Xbox group has lost $4 billion for Microsoft. "
And don't forget the "XBox group" -- the Entertainment and Devices group also includes the profitable Mac Business Unit, The XBox has been a an even bigger net lost for MS than it appears.
"For big companies, their most important products must have a reasonable market share. Drop in market share is dangerous. Currently Apple's market share is dropping at a rate that can only be described as free-fall. "
While Apple is enjoying 60%+ of all mobile phone profits worldwide....
"A few more quarters of this development, and the iPhone market share will be equivalent to the Mac market share, and that will hurt Apple. A lot."
Yes and the lack of market share for the Mac must be why Apple was trying to get rid of their PC business,,,,oh wait,,,that was HP who at the time had the largest market share.
So it must be why Apple is thinking about "giving the money back to the shareholders"...oh wait...that's Dell.
Hahaha.. Apple has been removing and crippling features in mobile Safari to prevent this with each release.
Which features would that be? In iOS 6, Apple added support for the media capture API. One if the main reasons some apps were written was because there was no way to upload pictures and video on the web.
"In the US more than 50% of people have smartphones....who else is left to buy an iphone 5? not the people in developing markets who can't afford them"
It would really be nice if there were somewhere else on the planet where people could afford to buy stuff besides the 4% of the world's population in the U.S.
"Trying to use 'todays' internet with Java disabled is not a viable option. A realistic estimate is that over 70% of all common websites require Java to function correctly.
It is unfortunate that so many web developers use Java in places where it just isn't required. While I agree that Java Script does provide needed functionality in some situations, that is not the case in many (most) applications."
Really? This day and age someone not knowing the difference between Java and Javascript?
70% of pages do not use Java. Javascript yes but they are completely different.
"but we saw what Apple tried to pull, lock Google Maps out and force people to use Apple Maps. "
Apple didn't "lock Google Maps out". Apple wrote original maps app and used Google's data. The contract ran out, Google submitted it's own app and Apple approved it,
1. If Apple had no "strategic plan" it should be projected in their future lack of profit growth and revenue. Do you predict that Apple won't see profit and revenue growth this year? Next year? The year after?
2. You were wrong about Google growing faster than Apple. Apple grew profit at 60% last year, Google at 15%
3. As far as what "Mr. Yang said", proof is in the pudding. Show me the money.
4. If Apple were "shrinking" it should show up in their financials - revenue or profitability. They are growing both faster than any competitor.
5. Apple isn't "selling less phones" which is clearly evident in their financials.
6. If you're right that "it's over", we should see a drop in profitability, revenue, year over year sells, something. Are you predicting that it will happen this year? Next year? The year after?
7. Apple is increasing production capacity by leaps and bounds every year and is the second largest producer of electronic goods next to Samsung. Why would Apple lower prices if it is selling as many phones as it can produce. Looking at their CAPEX is proof that they continue to spend billions
8. I don't have to "think that people are selling millions of phones every year and making little or no profit". The financial statements from HTC, LG, Motorola, Sony, etc. prove it.
9. What "repeatable formula" does Motorola have? They have lost money almost every single quarter since being split off and are actually seeing volume decreases in the number of phones sold.
10. In summary, all you have is your opinion. I have financial statements showing that Apple has a track record since 2007 of growing faster than its competitors and you have.....nothing.
"The bottom line is most companies have a strategic plan, and that can be a variety of different things. If you don't understand that I can't help you. (example) http://www.planware.org/strategicsample.htm...but then we have been through this. It even has a section marked Goals."
And Apple has no strategic plan?
"I posted the figures, Googles revenues are up and profits are up then its growing revenues *profitably* "
Not for the last quarter year over year.
"the fact is there is everything from tax breaks; "
They get "tax breaks" because you claim tax breaks on losses....again saying that you paid less taxes because one of your major divisions lost money is not "strategy"
"patents;"
How much are they making from patents? How much have they have stated they plan to make from patents"
"selling off STB business;"
They *recouped* some of the money they have already spent on MMI by selling the STB business. They didn't make money. On top of that, they assumed most of the liability from patent infringement claims by Tivo as part of the deal,''
" as well as using its bring its Nexus Line to Motorola its difficult to calculate...and you are not capable."
They never said that they would turn the Nexus line over to MMI. You really think they will recoup the $6.9 billion net for the cost of MMI (12.9 billion - 3 billion in cash that MMI had - 2.9 billion from selling the STB division) + all of the continued losses from operations and severance packages by selling Nexus devices?
No company makes any serious money from selling Android phones but Apple and Samsung.
"You have *never* mentioned *any* future business plans from Apple; show me them. I don't see it challenging Amazon; Google; Microsoft; Facebook anytime in the near future. In reality I see a cash rich business, with no idea what to do with it."
Apple is in the integrated hardware/software business. Apple no more needs a plan to "challenge" Amazon in the low margin retail business, Google in the (shrinking) search business, or Facebook in the (slightly) profitable social network business than it needs to challenge Exxon selling oil.
You mention as evidence that Apple's strategy is wrong based on stock price. Have you seen the stock price for Facebook since their IPO?
"; Sony is massively profitable...after buying out Ericsson (its compensating for its poor PC sales)."
Google's phone business MMI is constantly losing money.
"Sony make a profit why is it not there:)."
No it doesn't -- see article above.
" Hell it doesn;t even include companies like Lenovo and ZTE."
Lenovo's *revenue* from cell phone was only 7% of it's total revenue. Overall it's profits is in the low millions. Why would you think they would be vastly profitable?
"Google Inc raised its estimate of the cost of job cuts at its money-losing Motorola Mobility unit in the third quarter and warned of "significant" additional charges from further restructuring."
Slashdot Mirror
AT&T started capping data years before they tried to buy T-Mobile.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-e805-Pocket-Windows-Mobile/dp/B0000DBJUB
No it didn't.
"Intel processor at a phenomenal 400 MHz"
The original iPhone had a 400Mhz processor
No it doesn't
"The 4.0 TFT Transreflective Color display offers 240 x 320,"
The original iPhone had a 320x480 resolution.
Apple only sold 8 million of the original iPhones.
When I buy an app from iTunes, there is no reason that the developer needs (or receives) my info. Apple processes the payment, takes their cut, and forwards the rest to the developer.
Google does the payment processing, why does the app developer need my info?
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/09/new-feature-in-ios-6-how-to-use-guided-access
So now "patching a security vulnerability" is a bad thing?
In Japan......
And it doesn't count Apple stores
And
"It's not as if they would release 2 ipad versions in one year, completely killing the brand new tablet you bought 6 month earlier..."
So your tablet stopped working the day that Apple announced a new one?
If market share == success and the company with the largest market share in an industry is not in fact successful then wouldn't that imply that market share is not the be all and end all?
So if loss of market share == loss of profit and if Android has been gaining market share and Apple's profits haven't decreased, doesn't that kind of imply that your second hypothesis is also wrong?
Fact 1: HP had the largest market share in PCs when they tried to dump their PC division
Fact 2:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/01/strategy-analytics-apple-tops-us-phone-market-for-q4-2012/
Do you understand that a business exists to make a profit? I've just showed you to examples where market share didnt imply business success.
"If Blackberry can rebound and sell an inexpensive, desirable smartphone in China, they could totally recover."
How will BB compete with the cheap Android phones that are already in China -- made by Chinese companies?
You call this "success"?
http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-microsoft-losses-on-xbox-2012-6
"Overall, the Xbox group has lost $4 billion for Microsoft. "
And don't forget the "XBox group" -- the Entertainment and Devices group also includes the profitable Mac Business Unit, The XBox has been a an even bigger net lost for MS than it appears.
"For big companies, their most important products must have a reasonable market share. Drop in market share is dangerous. Currently Apple's market share is dropping at a rate that can only be described as free-fall. "
While Apple is enjoying 60%+ of all mobile phone profits worldwide....
"A few more quarters of this development, and the iPhone market share will be equivalent to the Mac market share, and that will hurt Apple. A lot."
Yes and the lack of market share for the Mac must be why Apple was trying to get rid of their PC business,,,,oh wait,,,that was HP who at the time had the largest market share.
So it must be why Apple is thinking about "giving the money back to the shareholders"...oh wait...that's Dell.
Does that also mean you will stop using Intel products and Google products?
Which features would that be? In iOS 6, Apple added support for the media capture API. One if the main reasons some apps were written was because there was no way to upload pictures and video on the web.
"70% of pages do not use Java ? Make that 99.9999999999999% or something like that."
I agree, I was refuting the original claim that "70% of web pages use Java"
"In the US more than 50% of people have smartphones....who else is left to buy an iphone 5? not the people in developing markets who can't afford them"
It would really be nice if there were somewhere else on the planet where people could afford to buy stuff besides the 4% of the world's population in the U.S.
"Trying to use 'todays' internet with Java disabled is not a viable option. A realistic estimate is that over 70% of all common websites require Java to function correctly.
It is unfortunate that so many web developers use Java in places where it just isn't required. While I agree that Java Script does provide needed functionality in some situations, that is not the case in many (most) applications."
Really? This day and age someone not knowing the difference between Java and Javascript?
70% of pages do not use Java. Javascript yes but they are completely different.
"but we saw what Apple tried to pull, lock Google Maps out and force people to use Apple Maps. "
Apple didn't "lock Google Maps out". Apple wrote original maps app and used Google's data. The contract ran out, Google submitted it's own app and Apple approved it,
"Slashdotters don't like iOS because of the closed ecosystem"
Correction, Slashdotters say they don't like iOS but according to Timothy, twice as many Slashdot mobile views come from iOS than Android.
1. If Apple had no "strategic plan" it should be projected in their future lack of profit growth and revenue. Do you predict that Apple won't see profit and revenue growth this year? Next year? The year after?
2. You were wrong about Google growing faster than Apple. Apple grew profit at 60% last year, Google at 15%
3. As far as what "Mr. Yang said", proof is in the pudding. Show me the money.
4. If Apple were "shrinking" it should show up in their financials - revenue or profitability. They are growing both faster than any competitor.
5. Apple isn't "selling less phones" which is clearly evident in their financials.
6. If you're right that "it's over", we should see a drop in profitability, revenue, year over year sells, something. Are you predicting that it will happen this year? Next year? The year after?
7. Apple is increasing production capacity by leaps and bounds every year and is the second largest producer of electronic goods next to Samsung. Why would Apple lower prices if it is selling as many phones as it can produce. Looking at their CAPEX is proof that they continue to spend billions
8. I don't have to "think that people are selling millions of phones every year and making little or no profit". The financial statements from HTC, LG, Motorola, Sony, etc. prove it.
9. What "repeatable formula" does Motorola have? They have lost money almost every single quarter since being split off and are actually seeing volume decreases in the number of phones sold.
10. In summary, all you have is your opinion. I have financial statements showing that Apple has a track record since 2007 of growing faster than its competitors and you have.....nothing.
"The bottom line is most companies have a strategic plan, and that can be a variety of different things. If you don't understand that I can't help you. (example) http://www.planware.org/strategicsample.htm...but then we have been through this. It even has a section marked Goals."
And Apple has no strategic plan?
"I posted the figures, Googles revenues are up and profits are up then its growing revenues *profitably* "
Not for the last quarter year over year.
"the fact is there is everything from tax breaks; "
They get "tax breaks" because you claim tax breaks on losses....again saying that you paid less taxes because one of your major divisions lost money is not "strategy"
"patents;"
How much are they making from patents? How much have they have stated they plan to make from patents"
"selling off STB business;"
They *recouped* some of the money they have already spent on MMI by selling the STB business. They didn't make money. On top of that, they assumed most of the liability from patent infringement claims by Tivo as part of the deal,''
" as well as using its bring its Nexus Line to Motorola its difficult to calculate...and you are not capable."
They never said that they would turn the Nexus line over to MMI. You really think they will recoup the $6.9 billion net for the cost of MMI (12.9 billion - 3 billion in cash that MMI had - 2.9 billion from selling the STB division) + all of the continued losses from operations and severance packages by selling Nexus devices?
No company makes any serious money from selling Android phones but Apple and Samsung.
"You have *never* mentioned *any* future business plans from Apple; show me them. I don't see it challenging Amazon; Google; Microsoft; Facebook anytime in the near future. In reality I see a cash rich business, with no idea what to do with it."
Apple is in the integrated hardware/software business. Apple no more needs a plan to "challenge" Amazon in the low margin retail business, Google in the (shrinking) search business, or Facebook in the (slightly) profitable social network business than it needs to challenge Exxon selling oil.
You mention as evidence that Apple's strategy is wrong based on stock price. Have you seen the stock price for Facebook since their IPO?
"; Sony is massively profitable...after buying out Ericsson (its compensating for its poor PC sales)."
No it isn't.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/23/sony-mobile-to-lay-off-off-1000-people-as-part-of-restructuring/
"I'm confused where is Google"
Google's phone business MMI is constantly losing money.
"Sony make a profit why is it not there :)."
No it doesn't -- see article above.
" Hell it doesn;t even include companies like Lenovo and ZTE."
Lenovo's *revenue* from cell phone was only 7% of it's total revenue. Overall it's profits is in the low millions. Why would you think they would be vastly profitable?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/260945/lenovos_profit_up_30_percent_mobile_business_unit_continues_to_grow.html
"I'm confused why again are you pointing to a link where Google is growing faster than Apple"
It's easy to be confused when facts don't back up your assertions.....
Apple's net profit grew 60% from 2011. Google's grew by 15%.
Apple's profit growth year over year 2012/2013:
Net profit FY 2011 - 25922
Net profit FY 2012 - 41733
60% growth
Google:
Net profit FY 2011 - 8505
Net profit FY 2012 - 9737
14% growth:
". I'm saying its pursuits of profits are damaging it long term...and that includes profitability,"
Based on what evidence? As you can see above, Apple's pr
"I didn't say that, I said the goal is not to make profit. In fact how about "preserve future profits".
So you didn't say the goal of a company is not to make a profit but you said it is not to make a profit?
And strangely enough, they seem to be growing profitabilty,,,,Are you suggesting that Apple won't see year over year growth in 2013? 2014? 2015?
"Your right growing revenues "unprofitably" is not a recipe for success [its not true]"
So, if they grew revenue by adding MMI and MMI is losing money, what is that if not growing revenue unprofitably?
"The fact that it is affecting third party development support is a simply another sign."
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/12/20/google-play-grows-app-store-king/
" Because right now I see Google investing in their future"
You obviously haven't looked at Apple's long term capital expenditures,,,,
"The Motorola deal cuts their tax bill because Google is vastly profitable :)"
You get "tax breaks" on losses. Losing money to pay less taxes is not a "strategy".
"Since when did selling one million devices a month become a bad thing :"
http://allthingsd.com/20120711/googles-nexus-7-costs-152-to-make-ihs-isuppli-teardown-finds/
And it sells for $199. Of course Asus doesn't make the whole $58 per device, they sell it at a discount to wholesellers.
"The reality is companies make massive profits from Android phones...don't pretend otherwise"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/04/us-google-motorola-idUSBRE8930L020121004
"Google Inc raised its estimate of the cost of job cuts at its money-losing Motorola Mobility unit in the third quarter and warned of "significant" additional charges from further restructuring."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444897304578043782276831090.html
"HTC Profit Falls 79% Amid Competition "
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/23/sony-mobile-to-lay-off-off-1000-people-as-part-of-restructuring/
"Today, Android OEM Sony announced that its loss-making mobile handset division Sony Mobile Communications would be laying out 15% of its workforce "
LG's profit is far from massive....
http://bgr.com/2012/10/24/lg-q3-2012-earnings-138-6-million-dollars/
So where are all of these Android manufacturers that are making tons of profits?
Apple accounts for 60% of the profit in the mobile industry.
http://www.intomobile.com/2012/11/14/asymco-apple-and-samsung-account-99-smartphone-profits-q3-htc-and-lg-only-other-profitable-companies/
"You need to make up your mind what you are arguing with Apples store. I have one point, Apples pursuit of Profits over market share is stupid, "
So, if it were stupid, then how does it make 60% of all mobile profit?
"It also means less money from its store."
Facts are your friends.....
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/12/20/google-play-grows-app-store-king/
"Apple does not make an awful lot of money from the computer market."
So which PC company makes more money selling computers than Apple makes selling Macs?
" I notice that the Chromebook is the best selling device on Amazon."
Yes and Amaz