Yup, just remember that you wouldn't ever want to browse any web/video/picture/music/e/t/c sites that make use of Flash, like, oh man I can barely think of one... I guess youtube kinda counts, but who really wants to visit a dirty smelly wretched Flash site like youtube?
You do realize that YouTube has been working on the iPhone since 2007?
Funny, i was trying to get directions to a small museum the other day on my phone and guess what? I couldn't do it.
It sure would be nice if the phone had a web browser that you could go to a search engine where you could find directions and maybe even turn by turn directions from where you were......
Yeah my 2006 Blackberry is really obselete now. Going online, checking my mail, instant messaging, and god forbid calling people has never been a worse experience. But I guess I don't have> a fart button app, time to throw it out.
You really think that the poor excuse for a browser that came with a circa 2006 Blackberry and non-HTML email is not obsolete?
1. Creative Nomad (before the iPod) -- oversized, horrible interface, and a slow computer interface 2. Smartphone -- before the iPhone, which phone had a standards compliant browser and usable media software. Are you really seriously going to say that the standard Palm, BlackBerry, or WinMo device was anyhere near as usable as the iPhone in 2007? 3. PressPlay -- subscription music, before iTunes, where could you *buy* mainstream music by the song and have unlimited rights to burn them to a CD?
"Steve Jobs ability to focus in on a few things that count, get people who get user interface right and market things as revolutionary are amazing things. This time somehow he has applied his talents in getting a better Licensing deal than anyone else has gotten for music."
Amazing what spending money to more or less hide competitors does huh? And yes, Apple pays for those special cases since no store will ever sacrifice floor space for a single product unless they are being paid to do it.
So that explains why iPods sell so well at Amazon!
But poor little companies like Sony and Microsoft can't compete with Apple?
Apple was the first major player in this market. Sure, there were a few other companies that achieved some level of success, but Apple was by far the first to be really successful with their Apple II. They dominated the last few years of the 1970s, and into the 1980s.
Then IBM released their PC, which itself was followed by various PC clones. By the late 1980s, Apple was nearly destroyed. They went from the top of the industry to near the bottom, in around a decade.
It will likely happen again. Apple will again hit rock bottom, as they did the first time around. Their business model of selling expensive devices to hipsters (basically the same model they used in the 1970s and 1980s) results in a quick adoption rate among those with money to burn, but soon market forces bring in competitors who appeal to the other 98% of the population. Apple will again be relegated to the 2% marketshare they "enjoyed" in the PC market for so many years.
How have all of those "iPod Killers" fared over the last decade?
or maybe give some coverage to the more popular platforms (Symbian, RIM, Android) that don't need to be jailbroken, instead of the overwhelming coverage of Apple all the time.
What's the difference between needing to jailbreak the iPhone and rooting an Android phone to remove crapware that the carriers install or to allow side loading (AT&T Android phones),etc?
Case in point: Look at the title of this story, " Android Outsells iPhone In Last 6 Months". Essentially, the author is comparing an OS, (Android) to a device, (iPhone)! It would be better and more informative to the reader to rephrase the title to something near "Android devices outsell iPhones In Last 6 Months".
If you talk about "devices" then shouldn't you also add iPod Touches?
On the grander scale, what does it matter? Mainstream developers aren't flocking to Android because of it's disproportionate low payout compared to the Apple app store and I definitely can't find a car, a radio, gym equipment etc. with integrated Android controls for music and video like I can the iPhone.
The itunes market is now mostly DRM free and the iPod plays mp3s
Apple sells music, music videos, audiobooks, e-books, tv shows, movies, and applications through iTunes. Only the music and music videos are DRM free. Nowhere can you buy DRM free mainstream digital media except for music.
But it has. I don't know anyone with an MP3 player.
But yet and still Apple sells almost 50 million iPods a year (70%+ market share) and iTunes is the number one music retailer in the world.....
Phones have leap over mp3 players
Where can I buy a phone with 160GB of storage (iPod Classic) or even 64GB of storage of the Touch?
I'd say that the first generation devices have huge advantages because consumers are naive at first. That doesn't usually last and they'll flee the walled garden in time.
So why have most major developers reported abysmal sells in the Android App Market compared to the iPhone App store even though Android market share is at least half that of the iPhone?
The outlands will always become more diverse and desirable than the garden. The garden's residents will therefore always abandon it. It is only a matter of time.
And after almost a decade,/. users are still predicting that iTunes + iPod will fall to a more opened platform.......
Given that the xbox has done rather well for them, but they'd be entering a market where cool is king. They would have to come up with some seriously strong designs.
If by "doing well" you mean losing money almost every quarter since its inception....
So even though Apple is the only major computer company that doesn't put "Intel Inside" stickers on their computers or load it up with crapware, somehow it is assumed that they will force advertising on their customers?
If Apple won't put an "Intel Inside" sticker on a Mac forgoing millions of co-marketing dollars what makes anyone think they would integrate ads with the OS?
Define High end. If you mean 'expensive' then sure. If you mean performance computers then..no. IF you mean durable then....no.
High end as in, Apple doesn't sell cheap below $500 laptops with Pentium Dual Core (not Core 2 Duo) processors, with 800Mhz FSB, 802.11g, and 10/100 ethernet.
Fine, you like pretty self contained boxes. I have no problem with that, but and performance arguments went out the window when they went with OTS intel.
Yes they did go with off the shelf Intel processors. But Apple doesn't sell a single computer with a Pentium Dual Core Processor, Atom, with Intel integrated graphics, 802.11g, or the sub par battery life of the typical lowend Dell or HP.
You do know that the US is there most profitable piece, right? Do you also know that Apple cow tows to Chine and the iPhone doesn't have Wifi in China?
You mean like all manufacturers have to abide by the laws of the country they sell to?
As you can see, every single company is making less money than Apple, except for HP. And I'll bet you that when you look up HP's annual financial reports, it will show they're not making that money in the PC-market.
Well, it's been 3 years since the first iPhone came out and Flash still doesn't just work smoothly on amy phone even one with a 1Ghz processor. What hope did Adobe ever have of getting Flash to work on the first or second generation iPhone?
Jobs is going to loose the smart phone wars just like he lost the PC wars.
Well considering that Apple basically owns the high end of the computer market where the profits are and that the only aim of a corporation is to make money. I don't think Apple lost at all.
Also Apple is currently the most profitable cell phone manufacturer in the world, I don't think either they or their shareholders are crying right now. Yes, the iPhone generates more profits than every Nokia sold worldwide combined.
If he doesn't get on other cell providers this year, it is game, set, match.
Apple is on other cell providers. You know the world doesn't just consist of the U.S. don't you?
lets me put apps and icons on my home screen how I want,
But it doesn't let you put apps on a MicroSD card that you just bought. Even the new HTC 4G coming out has a paltry 384MBs to store apps in even if you do buy that $200 32GB MicroSD card.
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You do realize that YouTube has been working on the iPhone since 2007?
It sure would be nice if the phone had a web browser that you could go to a search engine where you could find directions and maybe even turn by turn directions from where you were......
You really think that the poor excuse for a browser that came with a circa 2006 Blackberry and non-HTML email is not obsolete?
1. Creative Nomad (before the iPod) -- oversized, horrible interface, and a slow computer interface
2. Smartphone -- before the iPhone, which phone had a standards compliant browser and usable media software. Are you really seriously going to say that the standard Palm, BlackBerry, or WinMo device was anyhere near as usable as the iPhone in 2007?
3. PressPlay -- subscription music, before iTunes, where could you *buy* mainstream music by the song and have unlimited rights to burn them to a CD?
--Bill Gates
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100211/bill-gates-on-itunes/
"Steve Jobs ability to focus in on a few things that count, get people who get user interface right and market things as revolutionary are amazing things. This time somehow he has applied his talents in getting a better Licensing deal than anyone else has gotten for music."
So that explains why iPods sell so well at Amazon!
But poor little companies like Sony and Microsoft can't compete with Apple?
How have all of those "iPod Killers" fared over the last decade?
What's the difference between needing to jailbreak the iPhone and rooting an Android phone to remove crapware that the carriers install or to allow side loading (AT&T Android phones),etc?
And after going through hoops, you may get a whopping $52 back.....
http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/59381
How does the O.S. being free help? Do most manufacturers give discounts for not installing Windows?
If you talk about "devices" then shouldn't you also add iPod Touches?
On the grander scale, what does it matter? Mainstream developers aren't flocking to Android because of it's disproportionate low payout compared to the Apple app store and I definitely can't find a car, a radio, gym equipment etc. with integrated Android controls for music and video like I can the iPhone.
How many of the New York Times best sellers can you buy in digital form without DRM?
So it's not a philosophical stance to DRM.....
Apple sells music, music videos, audiobooks, e-books, tv shows, movies, and applications through iTunes. Only the music and music videos are DRM free. Nowhere can you buy DRM free mainstream digital media except for music.
But yet and still Apple sells almost 50 million iPods a year (70%+ market share) and iTunes is the number one music retailer in the world.....
Where can I buy a phone with 160GB of storage (iPod Classic) or even 64GB of storage of the Touch?
So why have most major developers reported abysmal sells in the Android App Market compared to the iPhone App store even though Android market share is at least half that of the iPhone?
And after almost a decade, /. users are still predicting that iTunes + iPod will fall to a more opened platform.......
MS released one Zune in 2006 -- a 30GB hard drive model. Apple already had the Nanos, shuffles, and the 60GB iPod out.
Apple reduced the price of the 30GB from $299 to $249 and had an 80GB for $339 (?).
The mainstream hard drive based Classic has been $249 every since then and Apple simply increased the capacity.
In 2008, MS released the touch screen Zune and is currently selling it a lot cheaper than Apple is selling the Touch.
If by "doing well" you mean losing money almost every quarter since its inception....
So even though Apple is the only major computer company that doesn't put "Intel Inside" stickers on their computers or load it up with crapware, somehow it is assumed that they will force advertising on their customers?
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/08/why_no_intel_in.html
If Apple won't put an "Intel Inside" sticker on a Mac forgoing millions of co-marketing dollars what makes anyone think they would integrate ads with the OS?
Yeah I agree, it would be nice if the iPad had a Kindle App and an app that would stream NetFlix videos......
Oh wait, there is an iPad Kindle app and a Netflix app!
High end as in, Apple doesn't sell cheap below $500 laptops with Pentium Dual Core (not Core 2 Duo) processors, with 800Mhz FSB, 802.11g, and 10/100 ethernet.
Yes they did go with off the shelf Intel processors. But Apple doesn't sell a single computer with a Pentium Dual Core Processor, Atom, with Intel integrated graphics, 802.11g, or the sub par battery life of the typical lowend Dell or HP.
You mean like all manufacturers have to abide by the laws of the country they sell to?
Where can you get a 32GB MicroSD card for $100?
Only in the U.S. Apple is still selling more worldwide.
Actually, HP is also making less money.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:HPQ&fstype=ii
Wikipedia is wrong (shocking I know).
Do you really need someone else to post data about the profits and revenues of publicly traded companies?
Well, it's been 3 years since the first iPhone came out and Flash still doesn't just work smoothly on amy phone even one with a 1Ghz processor. What hope did Adobe ever have of getting Flash to work on the first or second generation iPhone?
Well considering that Apple basically owns the high end of the computer market where the profits are and that the only aim of a corporation is to make money. I don't think Apple lost at all.
Also Apple is currently the most profitable cell phone manufacturer in the world, I don't think either they or their shareholders are crying right now. Yes, the iPhone generates more profits than every Nokia sold worldwide combined.
Apple is on other cell providers. You know the world doesn't just consist of the U.S. don't you?
But it doesn't let you put apps on a MicroSD card that you just bought. Even the new HTC 4G coming out has a paltry 384MBs to store apps in even if you do buy that $200 32GB MicroSD card.