The only way this will inconvenience anyone is if they are not a "moderate or heavy surfer" and are in fact running torrent downloads 24/7/365 pulling a constant load of 100kBps or more.
Think about this. Comcast's cap is 250GB, yes? There is 2,592,000 seconds in 30 days. 250,000 MB / 2,592,000 =.096451. That means to exceed your cap, you must have a constant network load of.096 megabytes PER SECOND all month. I SERIOUSLY doubt that's the case if you are using it as described.
Actually between DirecTV's VOD service (which uses the Internet to stream video to the DVR) and just a little bit of torrenting I could conceivably hit 250GB. The same for people who use NetFlix streaming.
"Turns it into another Microsoft? Wow, the shareholders will cry with someone turning Apple into one of the largest companies in the world making over 10x their current profits. That would be something to worry about."
MS shareholders should cry (split adjusted)
Apple Stock price 6/28/1998 - $10.29 Apple stock price 6/28/2008 - $162.12 Gain - 1575%
Microsoft Stock price 6/28/1998 - $27.48 Microsoft Stock price 6/28/2008 - $26.16 Gain (loss) - -4.8%
"Apple's hardware is only premium when you want an expandable computer. When comparing the specs of Macs and Windows PCs the prices are about the same. However when you want to add a second hdd and video card or when you want to upgrade the hardware then you have to go with the Mac Pro which starts at $2500, the lower cost Macs are not expandable. Oops, Apple raised them to $2800. You can save a little though if you join Apple Developer Connection. That's what I did when I switched from Windows to Macs."
Straight from the Apple Store -- downgrade to the single Quad Core 2.8GHz Xeon is $2300 Straight from Macmall same computer -- $2214.
Anyone can sell music for the iPod -- just not DRM'd music. Emusic, Amazon, Walmart, and MagnaTunes all sale music compatible with the iPod. No one is stopping any other manufacturer from selling an MP3 player that supports subscription music from the major labels and in fact, Sandisk, Microsoft, Creative, and Archos all sell devices that support subscription music from Rhapsody and Napster.
"If the iTunes store were a website (which would be *way* too convenient for customers, and *way* too hard for Apple to control), you'd have to make it so the iPod was just a USB storage device or somesuch, to which you could simply copy your songs and pictures and movies. This doesn't play well with the people who actually *own* the music: the evil one-eyed persian-cat-petting bastards who own and run the world-conquering record companies."
Without music management software how do I: 1. Create Smart Playlists 2. Keep track of meta data like last time played, number of times played,number of times skipped. 3. Create different playlists with the same songs without duplicating songs in different folders 4. Manage podcasts so they seamlessly work between the device and the computer -- i.e. start playing a podcast on the computer, sync it to the iPod and start where I left off, set up the podcast so that episodes are deleted once listened to on either the device or computer. 5. Create a playlist in a certain order without naming the songs so that the sort order is the same as the desired play order?
Not only that, but why would I want a separate app to manage my music, rip my CD's, burn CD's, backup my library, play music, and play movies?
"The current iTunes Plus (i.e. DRM-free and higher bitrate) tracks are $1.29, and Apple will upgrade existing tracks that are now available as DRM-free for 30 cents, the difference in price. So Amazon is a much better deal, but if you already have music from iTMS, then the upgrade price will be cheaper. Click on the "iTunes Plus" link in the store and you should see a button in the upper left to upgrade if any tracks are available."
iTunes Plus tracks have been $0.99 for months now.
"Of course, TANSTAAFL. The national government will be taking tax dollars from people, taking an administrative cut, then turning around and giving it back to pay exclusively for converter boxes. The net effect is the US national government is screwing with free markets and funding (mostly overseas) consumer electronics companies."
The government is selling some of the bandwidth to be freed up by going digital and using that money to subsidize cable boxes. Since the airwaves belong to the public, why not let the government give some of the money back to the public that they will make selling it?
"And besides, is the law really so cut and dry? They could make the arguement that they are only copying the movie because it is necessary in order for the movie to be compatible with this device. (And to further strengthen their arguement, they can encrypt it so you can't copy it off the iPod)."
There was just a story on Slashdot where a company was doing exactly that. They were decrypting the movie and storing it on a media server -- with drm and the industry was still up in arms.
"I'm not sure whether they'd win or not, but it's a legitimate argument. All they need is enough legitimacy to get to court. Once in court, they're pretty much guaranteed to win in the court of public opinion, even if they loose the case. I'm not sure the movie industry would really want all the negative PR."
Do you really expect them to expose themselves to this type of liability? Do you remember what happened to the original MP3.com when they tried to do the digital locker?
"If it wasn't for Jobs (and Apple) being in bed with the movie industry, I'd hope that they would take Hollywood on and make such a piece of software."
So you expect a publically traded company to do something that is clearly illegal? It's not about the movie industry, it's against the law in the US.
"You could learn how to use the various Open Source utilities to re-encode the DVD to the format the iPod uses. This process is not trivial if you've never done it before but once you get it all figured out it flows pretty smoothly."
If you have HandBrake (free open source for Macs, Windows, Linux) you put a DVD in and you choose one of the available presets -- iPod, PSP, AppleTV, etc. and click a button. How could it be any easier?
"I'm still waiting for the ability to re-download already purchased music from itunes. If they added that ability, itunes would be my exclusive source of music."
Is it really that hard to choose File->Backup to Disc in iTunes and put blank CD/DVD into your computer?
"I have been claiming for a long time the only way DRM will get widespread use is if enough people VOTED for it with their $$$$. It looks like the votes are in and the counters are noting the huge number of votes against DRM.. It's about time. Keep up the good work and keep voting with your wallet. They can pass DMCA all they want in congress, but if it fails in the marketplace, that is the ace up the sleeve. It has to sell to become a standard that is used."
The numbers don't support your claim. iTunes is growing every year and according to the CEO of Universal makes up 23% of all music sales in the US. Other music stores are not failing because of DRM. They are failing because they lack iPod compatibility. I'm no more in favor of DRM than the next person but the market doesn't support your conclusion.
"Also you might try looking lower in the "Portable Digital Media Player" bestseller list: iPods are there, just very low on the list."
This was debunked months ago...There are no current generation iPods on the list. For some reason Amazon is not counting current generation iPods as a portable media player.
"Anecdotal observations have their place, but the industry also has analytic tools. In this case, NPD.
The first generation was enough to take Microsoft to greater than 10% market share. They passed Creative, Sandisk and everybody else to become #2 in the market.
And -- trust me, this is important -- they hit their forecast numbers. They were aiming for about 10%, and they got it."
You're confusing MS-Truth for Real-Truth.
Microsoft said they got "10% in the market they compete". Meaning they got 10% of hard drive based players only. When you look at all players they were actually #4 with 2.9% behind Sandisk, Creative, and Apple.
What do you think could keep Apple from muscling in right there?
The lawsuit by Apple records in the 60s. -----
Last January when Apple Computer changed its name to Apple Incorporated, SJ also announced that they had bought all rights for the name "Apple" from Apple Corps and relicensed the name back to them. Apple is no longer subject to the agreement.
"I hooked up the shuffle to my wife's Macbook and showed her how to put some songs on it. It was very easy. Then my wife wanted me to put one song on it from my music collection on my iMac. I plug in the shuffle and get a message to "Erase and Sync". WTF? So I had to copy the song from my shared drive to her Macbook, import the song to her iTunes and then add it to her shuffle. "
--There's an option in iTunes to "Manually Manage Songs"
"If Apple were truly an "advocate for the consumer", then they would drop their proprietary formats and allow their iTunes songs to be played by products other than their own."
You mean like the iTunes Plus songs they offer now from EMI and independent labels which are not DRM encumbered and can be played by most DAP's and cell phones? Apple gave the major labels the option of selling non protected songs -- only EMI took them up on the offer.
"Yeah, but a BMI of 30 is a pretty good indicator of being overweight."
I am a 5 foot 4 inch fitness instructor and between teaching classes and my own workouts easily work out 10-12 hours a week. I weigh 173 pounds which puts my BMI at 29.7 -- borderline obese. My body fat percentage is 12% and I have a 32 inch waist. I only have about 21 pounds of fat. I would have to lose 30 pounds to get to a normal BMI. Where is that weight loss suppose to come from?
Slashdot Mirror
It was added as part of the 2.0 firmware upgrade.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/
eatures include:
* Push email
* Push contacts
* Push calendar
* Global Address List (GAL) support
* Certificates and identities
* WPA2/802.1X
* Enforced security policies
* Cisco logo More VPN protocols
* Device configuration
* Remote wipe
Actually between DirecTV's VOD service (which uses the Internet to stream video to the DVR) and just a little bit of torrenting I could conceivably hit 250GB. The same for people who use NetFlix streaming.
I was referring the Apple iChat.....the subject of the post.
[blockquote] ... that and it's not compatible with anything else due to said reason.
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and AIM, ICQ, XMPP, Yahoo, MSN, GoogleTalk....
Sure you can, most cellular providers have an online music store you can buy from.
"Turns it into another Microsoft? Wow, the shareholders will cry with someone turning Apple into one of the largest companies in the world making over 10x their current profits. That would be something to worry about."
MS shareholders should cry (split adjusted)
Apple Stock price 6/28/1998 - $10.29
Apple stock price 6/28/2008 - $162.12
Gain - 1575%
Microsoft Stock price 6/28/1998 - $27.48
Microsoft Stock price 6/28/2008 - $26.16
Gain (loss) - -4.8%
Revenue means nothing...It's not about how much you make but about how much you keep. Apple's revenue was higher but the net income was negative.
They also own activex.com,shareware.com,download.com, and com.com.
"Apple's hardware is only premium when you want an expandable computer. When comparing the specs of Macs and Windows PCs the prices are about the same. However when you want to add a second hdd and video card or when you want to upgrade the hardware then you have to go with the Mac Pro which starts at $2500, the lower cost Macs are not expandable. Oops, Apple raised them to $2800. You can save a little though if you join Apple Developer Connection. That's what I did when I switched from Windows to Macs."
Straight from the Apple Store -- downgrade to the single Quad Core 2.8GHz Xeon is $2300
Straight from Macmall same computer -- $2214.
Anyone can sell music for the iPod -- just not DRM'd music. Emusic, Amazon, Walmart, and MagnaTunes all sale music compatible with the iPod. No one is stopping any other manufacturer from selling an MP3 player that supports subscription music from the major labels and in fact, Sandisk, Microsoft, Creative, and Archos all sell devices that support subscription music from Rhapsody and Napster.
"If the iTunes store were a website (which would be *way* too convenient for customers, and *way* too hard for Apple to control), you'd have to make it so the iPod was just a USB storage device or somesuch, to which you could simply copy your songs and pictures and movies. This doesn't play well with the people who actually *own* the music: the evil one-eyed persian-cat-petting bastards who own and run the world-conquering record companies."
Without music management software how do I:
1. Create Smart Playlists
2. Keep track of meta data like last time played, number of times played,number of times skipped.
3. Create different playlists with the same songs without duplicating songs in different folders
4. Manage podcasts so they seamlessly work between the device and the computer -- i.e. start playing a podcast on the computer, sync it to the iPod and start where I left off, set up the podcast so that episodes are deleted once listened to on either the device or computer.
5. Create a playlist in a certain order without naming the songs so that the sort order is the same as the desired play order?
Not only that, but why would I want a separate app to manage my music, rip my CD's, burn CD's, backup my library, play music, and play movies?
"The current iTunes Plus (i.e. DRM-free and higher bitrate) tracks are $1.29, and Apple will upgrade existing tracks that are now available as DRM-free for 30 cents, the difference in price. So Amazon is a much better deal, but if you already have music from iTMS, then the upgrade price will be cheaper. Click on the "iTunes Plus" link in the store and you should see a button in the upper left to upgrade if any tracks are available."
iTunes Plus tracks have been $0.99 for months now.
"Of course, TANSTAAFL. The national government will be taking tax dollars from people, taking an administrative cut, then turning around and giving it back to pay exclusively for converter boxes. The net effect is the US national government is screwing with free markets and funding (mostly overseas) consumer electronics companies."
The government is selling some of the bandwidth to be freed up by going digital and using that money to subsidize cable boxes. Since the airwaves belong to the public, why not let the government give some of the money back to the public that they will make selling it?
"And besides, is the law really so cut and dry? They could make the arguement that they are only copying the movie because it is necessary in order for the movie to be compatible with this device. (And to further strengthen their arguement, they can encrypt it so you can't copy it off the iPod)."
There was just a story on Slashdot where a company was doing exactly that. They were decrypting the movie and storing it on a media server -- with drm and the industry was still up in arms.
"I'm not sure whether they'd win or not, but it's a legitimate argument. All they need is enough legitimacy to get to court. Once in court, they're pretty much guaranteed to win in the court of public opinion, even if they loose the case. I'm not sure the movie industry would really want all the negative PR."
Do you really expect them to expose themselves to this type of liability? Do you remember what happened to the original MP3.com when they tried to do the digital locker?
"If it wasn't for Jobs (and Apple) being in bed with the movie industry, I'd hope that they would take Hollywood on and make such a piece of software."
So you expect a publically traded company to do something that is clearly illegal? It's not about the movie industry, it's against the law in the US.
"You could learn how to use the various Open Source utilities to re-encode the DVD to the format the iPod uses. This process is not trivial if you've never done it before but once you get it all figured out it flows pretty smoothly."
If you have HandBrake (free open source for Macs, Windows, Linux) you put a DVD in and you choose one of the available presets -- iPod, PSP, AppleTV, etc. and click a button. How could it be any easier?
"I'm still waiting for the ability to re-download already purchased music from itunes. If they added that ability, itunes would be my exclusive source of music."
Is it really that hard to choose File->Backup to Disc in iTunes and put blank CD/DVD into your computer?
"I have been claiming for a long time the only way DRM will get widespread use is if enough people VOTED for it with their $$$$. It looks like the votes are in and the counters are noting the huge number of votes against DRM.. It's about time. Keep up the good work and keep voting with your wallet. They can pass DMCA all they want in congress, but if it fails in the marketplace, that is the ace up the sleeve. It has to sell to become a standard that is used."
The numbers don't support your claim. iTunes is growing every year and according to the CEO of Universal makes up 23% of all music sales in the US. Other music stores are not failing because of DRM. They are failing because they lack iPod compatibility. I'm no more in favor of DRM than the next person but the market doesn't support your conclusion.
"It cost me $75 when a 1 GB Nano was costing $250."
A 1GB Nano never cost more than $149. It was actually released quietly -- at least for Apple -- to get a player under $149.
"Also you might try looking lower in the "Portable Digital Media Player" bestseller list: iPods are there, just very low on the list."
This was debunked months ago...There are no current generation iPods on the list. For some reason Amazon is not counting current generation iPods as a portable media player.
"Anecdotal observations have their place, but the industry also has analytic tools. In this case, NPD.
The first generation was enough to take Microsoft to greater than 10% market share. They passed Creative, Sandisk and everybody else to become #2 in the market.
And -- trust me, this is important -- they hit their forecast numbers. They were aiming for about 10%, and they got it."
You're confusing MS-Truth for Real-Truth.
Microsoft said they got "10% in the market they compete". Meaning they got 10% of hard drive based players only. When you look at all players they were actually #4 with 2.9% behind Sandisk, Creative, and Apple.
What do you think could keep Apple from muscling in right there?
The lawsuit by Apple records in the 60s.
-----
Last January when Apple Computer changed its name to Apple Incorporated, SJ also announced that they had bought all rights for the name "Apple" from Apple Corps and relicensed the name back to them. Apple is no longer subject to the agreement.
"I hooked up the shuffle to my wife's Macbook and showed her how to put some songs on it. It was very easy. Then my wife wanted me to put one song on it from my music collection on my iMac. I plug in the shuffle and get a message to "Erase and Sync". WTF? So I had to copy the song from my shared drive to her Macbook, import the song to her iTunes and then add it to her shuffle. "
--There's an option in iTunes to "Manually Manage Songs"
"If Apple were truly an "advocate for the consumer", then they would drop their proprietary formats and allow their iTunes songs to be played by products other than their own."
You mean like the iTunes Plus songs they offer now from EMI and independent labels which are not DRM encumbered and can be played by most DAP's and cell phones? Apple gave the major labels the option of selling non protected songs -- only EMI took them up on the offer.
"Yeah, but a BMI of 30 is a pretty good indicator of being overweight."
I am a 5 foot 4 inch fitness instructor and between teaching classes and my own workouts easily work out 10-12 hours a week. I weigh 173 pounds which puts my BMI at 29.7 -- borderline obese. My body fat percentage is 12% and I have a 32 inch waist. I only have about 21 pounds of fat. I would have to lose 30 pounds to get to a normal BMI. Where is that weight loss suppose to come from?