No shit? See this guy was frontin' me the other day, and I gives him this look that said "How many XP would you be worth were I to kill you dead?" He backed of, but only after I did a steal on him and got that charm and potion he had.
Not to mention the rash of disappearances due to poor collision detection. It's a dangerous world out there now. Kids can find heavy weaponry laying about just anywhere! Like under overpasses and behind large crates.
Wasn't a defense. More like a suggestion. Get a grip: Neo could have busted away any bloody time he wanted too. You just laid it all out yourself: a very boring cliche. Either way, his powers still make the other 2 major (BORING) battles in the movie pointless. Morpheus fights for 20 minutes to escape until neo just swoops in and saves them. Trinity tries to sacrifice her life (pointlesly) until Neo swoops in and heals her. BORING and fucking pointless. Coupled with the inane, trite and never fucking ending dialog, I'd rather never the movie never been made.
We're not being 'unimaginative' with the cards. When you've only got 3 a round and you're saving one or 2 to pull something off a round or 2 down the road, it doesn't leave a lot of room for immediate results. That's strategy. It does rely too heavily on the random roll of the die in a fight. We use the zombie pieces as tokens (of course) but since we have the added zombie pack, we'd never run out. So those changes wouldn't work too well. We could use less, but that really rather spoils the point of having swarms and swarms to fight through. Yes, booze does help. We were tossed enough the first couple of times we played we didn't care/notice the huge holes in the gameplay.
I wasn't talking about VNV. Blessedly their blithering gooshtepping has been ignored by electroclash. I was talking about other EBM and Synthpop bands (both genres are mostly the same). Soviet for example. The "scene" doesn't decide shit. The only reason some of those bands are making it on there is because some DJs and Ministry of Sound are putting them on their mixes in attempts to make a cohesive sound. Which has worked, except for missteps: EBM and synthpop.
Well that is one big reason. the fact that there's no REAL strategy. It's all luck. The cards are useless as they don't come into play often enough and you can only have 3 at a time. Playing with less than 5-6 people is pointless since you'll be creating this huge map with tons of zombies that you'll never explore/fight before someone wins. Unless you start out there you'll never get to the expansion pack maps, which isn't even the point really. No adverse predicaments or schadenfreude stratregies other than the occasional card you can play against others. It's just all buggered. Do you have any alternate rules you can suggest?
Bugger off. I'm not out of ideas. Apparently you're unfamiliar with deductive logic. It follows that the 'evidence' weighed can be summarily tossed out of hand by examination of the CREATIVE PROCESS. We actually know how Disney developed LK. It's true. Books have been writted and people can be contacted. Written a letter to Menken have you? You don't have to, that line of inquiry has been carfeully plotted out. More ink has been spent logging the efforts and inpirations made on LK than your crackpot theories can account for. GOTF is boring and mawkish BTW. And don't go trotting out any BS about me not having a 'soul' or the 'attention span'. Neither is true. It's just not that good.
You're absolutely right about the cards. They're terrible. One should never have to refer to the manufacturer's site for card clarifications. Rule clarification sure. But not pieces.
Only to succeed in the end anyway? What, did he level up during the fight? There was NOTHING AT STAKE. They used one of the most irritating cliches ever in action movie lore. The "hero fights, but then overcomes great odds by scrunching his face reaaally tightly." Go soak your head.
Yeah! and then Anakin runs over Jar Jar with his speeder and then saves the world! There's no subtext to the scene. NONE. Stop imagining there is. You don't 'get it' more than the rest of us. You're just pulling it out of your ass. Anyone can do that. Other ideas for Neo's motives:
He felt punky
he was bored
only reruns on tv
hates guys named smith.
all reasons at least as good as the one you thought up.
THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. Stop holding out for a savior. It doesn't matter how good the next one is. The second was such unwatchable tripe as to ruin any efforts to tell a story in the same universe. That includes the Animatrix. It's all so much shit.
Reloaded was a terrible film. Every action made by every character was made irrelevant by Neo's superhuman abilities. He was a deus ex machina. No sacrifice or effort Morpheus or Trinity made amounted to anything because Neo swooped in and saved the day. Noone wants to watch a movie where nothing's at stake. That and while your guesses about the nature of the Matrix are as good as anyone elses belies the fact that the emperor has no clothes. The pseudo philosophy BS we had to listen to was so ham fisted that Billy Joel may as well have been writing it while taking a crap.
zOMBIES!!! is a broken game out of the box. One that gets worse with every expansion pack. The list of problems is endless, which is unfortunate because it's a fun premise. I enjoy swapping alternate rules with people, but have yet to find a rule set that really makes for suspenseful, strategic play.
It doesn't follow that I'd have to respond to every piece of "evidence" you're profferring when I'm outright dismissing the whole lot as "tin-foil-hat" theorizing. Disney apologist? Why do I have to have a motive? I love and argue for GOOD ART. For all intents Kimba (like 99% of anime) is the worst kind of drek. Derivative, poorly made and shallow. Miyazaki's works are the best of them all, but even still not as excellent as LK. Bad art needs to know it's place, in the dust bin. It's motive enough having to see crackpots with their 1/2 truths and heresay insulting the efforts of artists and authors with the skill to bring something as beautiful as LK in the world. I havn't come to the same conclcusion as "everyone else you know" because, well, maybe I have a more open mind than the people you surround yourself with. It's YOUR VERSION OF REALITY you're talking about. And frankly it's rubbish.
Go listen to Covenant's song "We Stand Alone" off of "Northern Lights"
*SHUDDER* EBM needs to die the death it's had waiting for it since the early 90's. Noone's brought anything new to the sound since Front242. It really irritates too that some synthpop and ebm bands are getting "found" by electroclash. They were the bastard stepchildren of New Wave. Mawkish and crappy. You can't just dust them off and bring them back into the fold. They don't have the attitude or the talent.
What's this "limited world view" you keep blithering about. I find your points uncompelling, therefore I have a limited world view? What kind of preschool logic is that? You're just being pissy because I don't have YOUR worldview. That's a rather shallow worldview you have there. Then you do the school yard equivalent of sticking-your-finger-in-your-ears, and refuse to respond to the rest of my post. Real grown up. You rediculous little person.
The points you make are less than compelling. They're also tired and STILL unproven after all this time. It is arguable that it's "better" than Miyazaki's films (though you expose yourself for being a drooling fanboy), but it is FAR more universal than his work. The fact that I've even heard of Miyazaki and can identify that there are many literary and visual cultural tropes in his films which would be obscure to most of the world's movie goers, should show I have anything BUT a limited world view (you insipid git). Like the fucking Turnip god makes any fucking sense to anyone other than the members of Asiatic races. Whereas nearly bloody everyone in any culture can readily identify that the evil scraggly looking lion lurking in the shadows is the bad guy, and that the bold strong lion walking in the sun is the good one. It's simple but that's the point. Really, you don't have a leg here. To the point, Disney sued to stop the distribution of a shitty product that might confuse people. Though how anyone could be confused between art like the Lion King and crappy 1 frame a minute animation like Kimba is anyone's guess. Go soak your head.
Overrated from what? Who are you talking to? Do people start masturbating frantically in front of you when you ask them about Gaiman and Moore? And if you're not impressed with what's AT LEAST excellent writing, you can't really be interested in what's good.
P.S. HAHA. Name calling in a friendly debate. Funny. Sod off.
"If someone wants to break into my house and murder me and my family, then they will have our dead bodies. Bodies that were going to die within the next 100 years anyway. They can kill me and I will die...but I will not take another life again." Do you think you're being enlightened? How much will your enlightenment be worth when some crack-addled ass shoots you dead when you might have easily defended yourself by brandishing a simple weapon in self defense in your own home? Noone will think of you as a good human, just a dead one. And to not do whatever it takes to protect your children makes you a BAD human. There's a fundamental misunderstanding of power in our culture today. I'm sure this pops a hole in your star trek future but power will always be defined as the ability to render life/death, not how impressive you are in an 'intellectual' pissing match.
Lion King is the worst example I can think of for this kind of action. The story has some of the most universal themes ever put to paper. Add an african "skin" and you've got a story that could be told in any culture and any aesthetic known. Let's also mention the simple fact that Disney's version of this same archtypal story is the superior in everyway. Kimba is drek, bad animation, crap story telling, horrid characterization and dribbling dialog. Disney made a cinematic classic in every way the finest animated movie ever made. Better even than Miyazaki's films which are far too non-universal and practically un-interpretable to many cultures.
I've heard this kind of blither too often. "Someone heatedly criticizes religion, it must be a religion iteslf." That logic doesn't even hold. It's a strawman of the worst kind. Look it's very simple. All human knowledge is gained empirically. There is nothing in the natural world that is outside the realm of empiricism. If we don't understand it now, someday we may. Believing that we are nothing more than what we can understand does not make me a zealot, it makes me honest. Supernatural phenomena can be understood. Often it can be understood to be nothing more than a bit of bad potatoe. Understanding something does not steal the mystery from life, quite the opposite. Noone is treating this study like it is infallible, because we are scientists who use the rigor of the scientific method to carefully scrutinize that which we understand to be "true". Go soak your head.
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No shit? See this guy was frontin' me the other day, and I gives him this look that said "How many XP would you be worth were I to kill you dead?" He backed of, but only after I did a steal on him and got that charm and potion he had.
Not to mention the rash of disappearances due to poor collision detection. It's a dangerous world out there now. Kids can find heavy weaponry laying about just anywhere! Like under overpasses and behind large crates.
Really, I assumed they just got stoned. Very thoroughly stoned.
Wasn't a defense. More like a suggestion. Get a grip: Neo could have busted away any bloody time he wanted too. You just laid it all out yourself: a very boring cliche. Either way, his powers still make the other 2 major (BORING) battles in the movie pointless. Morpheus fights for 20 minutes to escape until neo just swoops in and saves them. Trinity tries to sacrifice her life (pointlesly) until Neo swoops in and heals her. BORING and fucking pointless. Coupled with the inane, trite and never fucking ending dialog, I'd rather never the movie never been made.
We're not being 'unimaginative' with the cards. When you've only got 3 a round and you're saving one or 2 to pull something off a round or 2 down the road, it doesn't leave a lot of room for immediate results. That's strategy. It does rely too heavily on the random roll of the die in a fight. We use the zombie pieces as tokens (of course) but since we have the added zombie pack, we'd never run out. So those changes wouldn't work too well. We could use less, but that really rather spoils the point of having swarms and swarms to fight through. Yes, booze does help. We were tossed enough the first couple of times we played we didn't care/notice the huge holes in the gameplay.
I wasn't talking about VNV. Blessedly their blithering gooshtepping has been ignored by electroclash. I was talking about other EBM and Synthpop bands (both genres are mostly the same). Soviet for example. The "scene" doesn't decide shit. The only reason some of those bands are making it on there is because some DJs and Ministry of Sound are putting them on their mixes in attempts to make a cohesive sound. Which has worked, except for missteps: EBM and synthpop.
Real witty comeback there. Insulting my intelligence and making no substantial addition to the conversation. Yeah, you're really the bigger man.
Well that is one big reason. the fact that there's no REAL strategy. It's all luck. The cards are useless as they don't come into play often enough and you can only have 3 at a time. Playing with less than 5-6 people is pointless since you'll be creating this huge map with tons of zombies that you'll never explore/fight before someone wins. Unless you start out there you'll never get to the expansion pack maps, which isn't even the point really. No adverse predicaments or schadenfreude stratregies other than the occasional card you can play against others. It's just all buggered. Do you have any alternate rules you can suggest?
Bugger off. I'm not out of ideas. Apparently you're unfamiliar with deductive logic. It follows that the 'evidence' weighed can be summarily tossed out of hand by examination of the CREATIVE PROCESS. We actually know how Disney developed LK. It's true. Books have been writted and people can be contacted. Written a letter to Menken have you? You don't have to, that line of inquiry has been carfeully plotted out. More ink has been spent logging the efforts and inpirations made on LK than your crackpot theories can account for. GOTF is boring and mawkish BTW. And don't go trotting out any BS about me not having a 'soul' or the 'attention span'. Neither is true. It's just not that good.
You're absolutely right about the cards. They're terrible. One should never have to refer to the manufacturer's site for card clarifications. Rule clarification sure. But not pieces.
Only to succeed in the end anyway? What, did he level up during the fight? There was NOTHING AT STAKE. They used one of the most irritating cliches ever in action movie lore. The "hero fights, but then overcomes great odds by scrunching his face reaaally tightly." Go soak your head.
He felt punky
he was bored
only reruns on tv
hates guys named smith.
all reasons at least as good as the one you thought up.
THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. Stop holding out for a savior. It doesn't matter how good the next one is. The second was such unwatchable tripe as to ruin any efforts to tell a story in the same universe. That includes the Animatrix. It's all so much shit.
Reloaded was a terrible film. Every action made by every character was made irrelevant by Neo's superhuman abilities. He was a deus ex machina. No sacrifice or effort Morpheus or Trinity made amounted to anything because Neo swooped in and saved the day. Noone wants to watch a movie where nothing's at stake. That and while your guesses about the nature of the Matrix are as good as anyone elses belies the fact that the emperor has no clothes. The pseudo philosophy BS we had to listen to was so ham fisted that Billy Joel may as well have been writing it while taking a crap.
BROKEN! This game is totally broken out of the box and gets worse with every expansion pack.
zOMBIES!!! is a broken game out of the box. One that gets worse with every expansion pack. The list of problems is endless, which is unfortunate because it's a fun premise. I enjoy swapping alternate rules with people, but have yet to find a rule set that really makes for suspenseful, strategic play.
It doesn't follow that I'd have to respond to every piece of "evidence" you're profferring when I'm outright dismissing the whole lot as "tin-foil-hat" theorizing. Disney apologist? Why do I have to have a motive? I love and argue for GOOD ART. For all intents Kimba (like 99% of anime) is the worst kind of drek. Derivative, poorly made and shallow. Miyazaki's works are the best of them all, but even still not as excellent as LK. Bad art needs to know it's place, in the dust bin. It's motive enough having to see crackpots with their 1/2 truths and heresay insulting the efforts of artists and authors with the skill to bring something as beautiful as LK in the world. I havn't come to the same conclcusion as "everyone else you know" because, well, maybe I have a more open mind than the people you surround yourself with. It's YOUR VERSION OF REALITY you're talking about. And frankly it's rubbish.
Go listen to Covenant's song "We Stand Alone" off of "Northern Lights"
*SHUDDER* EBM needs to die the death it's had waiting for it since the early 90's. Noone's brought anything new to the sound since Front242. It really irritates too that some synthpop and ebm bands are getting "found" by electroclash. They were the bastard stepchildren of New Wave. Mawkish and crappy. You can't just dust them off and bring them back into the fold. They don't have the attitude or the talent.
What's this "limited world view" you keep blithering about. I find your points uncompelling, therefore I have a limited world view? What kind of preschool logic is that? You're just being pissy because I don't have YOUR worldview. That's a rather shallow worldview you have there. Then you do the school yard equivalent of sticking-your-finger-in-your-ears, and refuse to respond to the rest of my post. Real grown up. You rediculous little person.
The points you make are less than compelling. They're also tired and STILL unproven after all this time. It is arguable that it's "better" than Miyazaki's films (though you expose yourself for being a drooling fanboy), but it is FAR more universal than his work. The fact that I've even heard of Miyazaki and can identify that there are many literary and visual cultural tropes in his films which would be obscure to most of the world's movie goers, should show I have anything BUT a limited world view (you insipid git). Like the fucking Turnip god makes any fucking sense to anyone other than the members of Asiatic races. Whereas nearly bloody everyone in any culture can readily identify that the evil scraggly looking lion lurking in the shadows is the bad guy, and that the bold strong lion walking in the sun is the good one. It's simple but that's the point. Really, you don't have a leg here. To the point, Disney sued to stop the distribution of a shitty product that might confuse people. Though how anyone could be confused between art like the Lion King and crappy 1 frame a minute animation like Kimba is anyone's guess. Go soak your head.
Overrated from what? Who are you talking to? Do people start masturbating frantically in front of you when you ask them about Gaiman and Moore? And if you're not impressed with what's AT LEAST excellent writing, you can't really be interested in what's good.
P.S. HAHA. Name calling in a friendly debate. Funny. Sod off.
The reason this is cool is because it looks cool. Some people can't see the forest for the trees.
"If someone wants to break into my house and murder me and my family, then they will have our dead bodies. Bodies that were going to die within the next 100 years anyway. They can kill me and I will die...but I will not take another life again." Do you think you're being enlightened? How much will your enlightenment be worth when some crack-addled ass shoots you dead when you might have easily defended yourself by brandishing a simple weapon in self defense in your own home? Noone will think of you as a good human, just a dead one. And to not do whatever it takes to protect your children makes you a BAD human. There's a fundamental misunderstanding of power in our culture today. I'm sure this pops a hole in your star trek future but power will always be defined as the ability to render life/death, not how impressive you are in an 'intellectual' pissing match.
Lion King is the worst example I can think of for this kind of action. The story has some of the most universal themes ever put to paper. Add an african "skin" and you've got a story that could be told in any culture and any aesthetic known. Let's also mention the simple fact that Disney's version of this same archtypal story is the superior in everyway. Kimba is drek, bad animation, crap story telling, horrid characterization and dribbling dialog. Disney made a cinematic classic in every way the finest animated movie ever made. Better even than Miyazaki's films which are far too non-universal and practically un-interpretable to many cultures.
I've heard this kind of blither too often. "Someone heatedly criticizes religion, it must be a religion iteslf." That logic doesn't even hold. It's a strawman of the worst kind. Look it's very simple. All human knowledge is gained empirically. There is nothing in the natural world that is outside the realm of empiricism. If we don't understand it now, someday we may. Believing that we are nothing more than what we can understand does not make me a zealot, it makes me honest. Supernatural phenomena can be understood. Often it can be understood to be nothing more than a bit of bad potatoe. Understanding something does not steal the mystery from life, quite the opposite. Noone is treating this study like it is infallible, because we are scientists who use the rigor of the scientific method to carefully scrutinize that which we understand to be "true". Go soak your head.