Like Micro$oft would ever actually cease and/or pay up!
Just imagine!
Thanks for the laugh guys.
Goodbye Eolas Tech, it was nice having you around for a little while. And thanks for the laugh. That was so funny, maybe if Gates was amused he'll use some lube.
What SGI found makes no difference. In the end it doesn't matter one bit if the Sys V code is the KJV of the holy bible and the Linux code is actually a Monty Python script in chinese.
None of this matters.
Why?
Get it thru your heads people, this is all about stock prices and what the executives can liquidate and move out of the country. They don't give a rats arse about collateral damage and the facts don't have a role in this game.
I've lived thru this before with Gulf Resources and the Bunker Hill Superfund.....believe me this is no different. It's all about a few people taking the money and laughing their way to some off shore bank.
Please do not let facts like this SGI thing distract you from the truth. Believe me, SCO isn't.
Everyone here should be aware that if the telemarketers win this case it will be bad. Worse than telemarketers.
There are groups, other than the telemarketers you all know and love, who are watching this case closely. Here's why:
Until now the #1 Amendment has said that anybody can speak, you didn't have to listen and you could walk on by and ignore the speaker. Until now the speaker didn't have access to your home.
If this case holds there are groups that are preparing themselves to telemarket you in ways you never imagined.
How would you like to be sitting down at dinner and get a phone call from someone to sell you on the idea of "white power" or "getting jesus" or "gay rights" or any number of things. As a free speech issue this goes beyond the sale of widgets or Disney vacations or windshields. It takes on a whole new version of ugly.
Sure, you still have the right to hang up but they will have the right to call. And there are groups just waiting to sell you some ideas that will make you want to forget all about the dinner that was interupted.
That would make Slashdot more of a digest than a place to read news. For those of us who do care, for whatever reason, it is more important to see this stuff as it happens. Reading about it a month after the fact isn't productive.
Slashdot does seem to be grouping it all under Caldera. That gives you the ability to filter it out. Even if you don't it is so easy to scroll down the screen and bypass the things you don't want to read.
The fact that you did read it, opened this thread and then actually took the time to post.....well let's just say that it gives the appearance of "just trolling."
If I were to "jump ship" that would mean a long transition period, changing the way we do things now, a huge period of debugging and adjusting.
In order to do it I would have to spend all the money to purchase 2003 Server, rewrite and debug all my apps for it. Even if I contracted out for most of it a lot of my time would be spent on the phone with the hardare vendors prying (and paying for) propriatary information out of them to get the equipment to work with computers running a different OS.
Sorry but you're going to have to give me, and my managers, a better reason to "jump ship."
In the real world, doing something just because someone else does doesn't make business sense.
Suppose the SCO issue were true (Once upon a time, in a land far, far away...)....
The Linux kernel comes to me as source code. So suppose I vi in there and remove the bad code. Then I compile and run. SCO can look anytime they like and see that I'm running Linux with a 2.4 kernel but they can pucker up and kiss my ass.
Right?
Or am I missing something here? It just seems to me that even if the courts did find some truth to their story there is still an easy way around them.
Oh yeah, that's impressive. Then you have to figure in the energy required to gather the nuts and process them. I'm guessing this thing isn't nearly as efficient, clean and wonderful as they make it out to be.
Food production is one thing in terms of land mass efficiency, production of fuel is another. I have been told that if we didn't do anything with the USA except grow stuff for fuel we might possibly be able to produce enough for Europe to use. But that assumes we don't use any ourself (no room for roads or cities, it would all be farm land).
And here I thought biodiesel wasn't efficient because of the land mass involved to produce enough of it. I was told that was just for fueling the cars and didn't take into account the energy to create the cars.
You're telling us that it's more efficient to create the cars and then fuel them directly with biodiesel. Someone is way off on their efficiency figures here.
"Only if one calculates the whole energy balance, one can determine the "greenness" of a power plant."
Actually you can just use a light meter or similar photographic device aimed at the power plant. Or you could hire one of those gay decorators off of TLC and have him tell you how green it is.
My official start time is 0600. I'm usually in there anywhere from 0600 to 0630. If I'm later than that I call so nobody gets worried.
The way I figure it is that for what they pay me they can damn well have some flex. If anyone has any heartburn then I can go back to the private sector and they can go back to having crappy communications.
Nobody has any problem with it tho. That's because I stay late often for meetings and help out with other things that often don't fall within my responsibility. I also have a personal policy that my boss, 911 or the Sheriff can call me anytime, any day for anything.
"Third-party clients will likely be affected," Osako said. But she added: "We're open and interested in talking with all providers that share our common goal of opening the IM community in a seamless, convenient and secure manner."
Everyone can back the hell down now and go back to the SCO thing.
I have to agree that there's a lack of a good quality, easy to use voice synth. At least I can't find one.
One project I'm just starting on is a poor mans logging recorder. I want to bring in audio from two radios on the line input of the sound card, one on the left channel and one on the right. Using the record utility it should be easy to write a script to do that. But I worry that with VOX I'll miss something. I can get COR logic from the radios pretty easily but how can I get that into the computer easily and make use of it?
I know there should be some home automation stuff that will let me do this without getting down to the transistor level and programming in C or, god forbid, assembly. I really want this to be dumb, simple, and easy to replicate for just about anyone.
If you really don't have a better use for that income, why not buy a fuel efficient car and save the rest. With the economy the way it is right now you are fortunate to have that kind of money. Don't do something foolish, save it!!
Really? So I guess that means you just throw out your whole personal value system for a paycheck because "times are tough", is that it?
This makes it ok to kill people or sell drugs for money. "Hey, I would love to quit selling crack but dammit I can't find another job right now."
I'm sorry, it just doesn't work that way. At least not for me it doesn't and if I worked for SCO I would have had to quit at some point this year just to keep my self respect.
Your milage may vary. I respect your right to disagree with this. And if you do disagree with this then I won't be suprised to see you offering to suck cock for a few bucks either. Hey, times are tough.
"Those requirements stated that the vehicle must be capable of carrying four people as well as transfer injured crew members to "definitive" medical care on Earth within 24 hours."
Lemme see here...I'm pretty sure that the tried and true Russian vehicle can carry three. Maybe four, and if not I would be very supprised if the design couldn't be just slightly modified for four. And a 24 hour launch readiness doesn't seem to be a stretch for it either.
"The vehicle had to be able to act as a CRV by 2010 and a CTV, launched on an expendable vehicle, by 2012."
Seems to me any redesign necessary could be done by then. I'm no rocket scientist, but I would be willing to bet hard cash that the Russians could do it....given hard cash.
"The vehicle also had to be cheaper, safer, and more maneuverable than the Space Shuttle."
Take a passing glance at the Russian method. Then you go back and take a detailed look. Again I'll bet hard cash they already have the answer for less money. Safe? Yeah, they've had a few fsck ups but I think their track record is FAR better than ours.
Manuverablility is something I won't comment on because I just don't have a clue on that. But for that kind of mission does it really need to be that much more manuverable?
Guys listen. I'm a former cold warrier and yes, we kicked their ass. But if there was one single thing that the soviets did right it was this kind of space work.
Before you kids all start wetting yourselves....remember that the Apollo has serious and major defects. One crew died as a result.
While it's true that the remaining Apollo program was carried out to great success with only a few other big problems, that was due to some bubblegum and duct tape redesign. NASA made a few changes to satisfy concerns of the Apollo 1 accident and addressed some crew concerns.
I believe you'll find that most of the people who worked that project, crew especially, will tell you that Apollo was less than ideal.
Perhaps the concept of Apollo is a good place to start for a new system design. I wouldn't want to start by pulling out blueprints, to do it right you would need to go farther back than that.
Suppose I purchase the license now, just to play it "safe."
Then, when IBM wins this thing and shows everyone what clowns SCO really is, what are my odds of getting a refund?
Will that require a seperate legal action? Or will the judge in the IBM case be able to demand that SCO return their ill-gotten gain? (makes me sick just thinking about it).
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ROFLMAO!
Like Micro$oft would ever actually cease and/or pay up!
Just imagine!
Thanks for the laugh guys.
Goodbye Eolas Tech, it was nice having you around for a little while. And thanks for the laugh. That was so funny, maybe if Gates was amused he'll use some lube.
Some people still don't get it.
What SGI found makes no difference. In the end it doesn't matter one bit if the Sys V code is the KJV of the holy bible and the Linux code is actually a Monty Python script in chinese.
None of this matters.
Why?
Get it thru your heads people, this is all about stock prices and what the executives can liquidate and move out of the country. They don't give a rats arse about collateral damage and the facts don't have a role in this game.
I've lived thru this before with Gulf Resources and the Bunker Hill Superfund.....believe me this is no different. It's all about a few people taking the money and laughing their way to some off shore bank.
Please do not let facts like this SGI thing distract you from the truth. Believe me, SCO isn't.
Everyone here should be aware that if the telemarketers win this case it will be bad. Worse than telemarketers.
There are groups, other than the telemarketers you all know and love, who are watching this case closely. Here's why:
Until now the #1 Amendment has said that anybody can speak, you didn't have to listen and you could walk on by and ignore the speaker. Until now the speaker didn't have access to your home.
If this case holds there are groups that are preparing themselves to telemarket you in ways you never imagined.
How would you like to be sitting down at dinner and get a phone call from someone to sell you on the idea of "white power" or "getting jesus" or "gay rights" or any number of things. As a free speech issue this goes beyond the sale of widgets or Disney vacations or windshields. It takes on a whole new version of ugly.
Sure, you still have the right to hang up but they will have the right to call. And there are groups just waiting to sell you some ideas that will make you want to forget all about the dinner that was interupted.
That would make Slashdot more of a digest than a place to read news. For those of us who do care, for whatever reason, it is more important to see this stuff as it happens. Reading about it a month after the fact isn't productive.
Slashdot does seem to be grouping it all under Caldera. That gives you the ability to filter it out. Even if you don't it is so easy to scroll down the screen and bypass the things you don't want to read.
The fact that you did read it, opened this thread and then actually took the time to post.....well let's just say that it gives the appearance of "just trolling."
"And of course the Evil One is running Windows"
OMFG!!! When did Hillary announce she is running?
If I were to "jump ship" that would mean a long transition period, changing the way we do things now, a huge period of debugging and adjusting.
In order to do it I would have to spend all the money to purchase 2003 Server, rewrite and debug all my apps for it. Even if I contracted out for most of it a lot of my time would be spent on the phone with the hardare vendors prying (and paying for) propriatary information out of them to get the equipment to work with computers running a different OS.
Sorry but you're going to have to give me, and my managers, a better reason to "jump ship."
In the real world, doing something just because someone else does doesn't make business sense.
In space they can't hear your sound effects anyway so unplug the speakers too.
Suppose the SCO issue were true (Once upon a time, in a land far, far away...)....
The Linux kernel comes to me as source code. So suppose I vi in there and remove the bad code. Then I compile and run. SCO can look anytime they like and see that I'm running Linux with a 2.4 kernel but they can pucker up and kiss my ass.
Right?
Or am I missing something here? It just seems to me that even if the courts did find some truth to their story there is still an easy way around them.
Oh yeah, that's impressive. Then you have to figure in the energy required to gather the nuts and process them. I'm guessing this thing isn't nearly as efficient, clean and wonderful as they make it out to be.
Food production is one thing in terms of land mass efficiency, production of fuel is another. I have been told that if we didn't do anything with the USA except grow stuff for fuel we might possibly be able to produce enough for Europe to use. But that assumes we don't use any ourself (no room for roads or cities, it would all be farm land).
Is this what you propose?
And here I thought biodiesel wasn't efficient because of the land mass involved to produce enough of it. I was told that was just for fueling the cars and didn't take into account the energy to create the cars.
You're telling us that it's more efficient to create the cars and then fuel them directly with biodiesel. Someone is way off on their efficiency figures here.
"Only if one calculates the whole energy balance, one can determine the "greenness" of a power plant."
Actually you can just use a light meter or similar photographic device aimed at the power plant. Or you could hire one of those gay decorators off of TLC and have him tell you how green it is.
"a green power plant"
How does it make any difference to the story what color the plant is?
My official start time is 0600. I'm usually in there anywhere from 0600 to 0630. If I'm later than that I call so nobody gets worried.
The way I figure it is that for what they pay me they can damn well have some flex. If anyone has any heartburn then I can go back to the private sector and they can go back to having crappy communications.
Nobody has any problem with it tho. That's because I stay late often for meetings and help out with other things that often don't fall within my responsibility. I also have a personal policy that my boss, 911 or the Sheriff can call me anytime, any day for anything.
Flex works both ways.
"Third-party clients will likely be affected," Osako said. But she added: "We're open and interested in talking with all providers that share our common goal of opening the IM community in a seamless, convenient and secure manner."
Everyone can back the hell down now and go back to the SCO thing.
Why do you say that?
"A French voices have been made available by the authors of MBROLA..."
:)
OMG! I can't resist, I'm going to make it say "I surrender, poo poo".
Seriously that looks like a pretty cool project, except for the lack of a text reader. Maybe I'm too picky or too damn lazy.
I have to agree that there's a lack of a good quality, easy to use voice synth. At least I can't find one.
One project I'm just starting on is a poor mans logging recorder. I want to bring in audio from two radios on the line input of the sound card, one on the left channel and one on the right. Using the record utility it should be easy to write a script to do that. But I worry that with VOX I'll miss something. I can get COR logic from the radios pretty easily but how can I get that into the computer easily and make use of it?
I know there should be some home automation stuff that will let me do this without getting down to the transistor level and programming in C or, god forbid, assembly. I really want this to be dumb, simple, and easy to replicate for just about anyone.
Ideas?
If you really don't have a better use for that income, why not buy a fuel efficient car and save the rest. With the economy the way it is right now you are fortunate to have that kind of money. Don't do something foolish, save it!!
The fact that your comment was rated funny shows that people here know little about cars.
Really? So I guess that means you just throw out your whole personal value system for a paycheck because "times are tough", is that it?
This makes it ok to kill people or sell drugs for money. "Hey, I would love to quit selling crack but dammit I can't find another job right now."
I'm sorry, it just doesn't work that way. At least not for me it doesn't and if I worked for SCO I would have had to quit at some point this year just to keep my self respect.
Your milage may vary. I respect your right to disagree with this. And if you do disagree with this then I won't be suprised to see you offering to suck cock for a few bucks either. Hey, times are tough.
"Those requirements stated that the vehicle must be capable of carrying four people as well as transfer injured crew members to "definitive" medical care on Earth within 24 hours."
Lemme see here...I'm pretty sure that the tried and true Russian vehicle can carry three. Maybe four, and if not I would be very supprised if the design couldn't be just slightly modified for four. And a 24 hour launch readiness doesn't seem to be a stretch for it either.
"The vehicle had to be able to act as a CRV by 2010 and a CTV, launched on an expendable vehicle, by 2012."
Seems to me any redesign necessary could be done by then. I'm no rocket scientist, but I would be willing to bet hard cash that the Russians could do it....given hard cash.
"The vehicle also had to be cheaper, safer, and more maneuverable than the Space Shuttle."
Take a passing glance at the Russian method. Then you go back and take a detailed look. Again I'll bet hard cash they already have the answer for less money. Safe? Yeah, they've had a few fsck ups but I think their track record is FAR better than ours.
Manuverablility is something I won't comment on because I just don't have a clue on that. But for that kind of mission does it really need to be that much more manuverable?
Guys listen. I'm a former cold warrier and yes, we kicked their ass. But if there was one single thing that the soviets did right it was this kind of space work.
Why are we not considering this?!?!?!
Before you kids all start wetting yourselves....remember that the Apollo has serious and major defects. One crew died as a result.
While it's true that the remaining Apollo program was carried out to great success with only a few other big problems, that was due to some bubblegum and duct tape redesign. NASA made a few changes to satisfy concerns of the Apollo 1 accident and addressed some crew concerns.
I believe you'll find that most of the people who worked that project, crew especially, will tell you that Apollo was less than ideal.
Perhaps the concept of Apollo is a good place to start for a new system design. I wouldn't want to start by pulling out blueprints, to do it right you would need to go farther back than that.
Suppose I purchase the license now, just to play it "safe."
Then, when IBM wins this thing and shows everyone what clowns SCO really is, what are my odds of getting a refund?
Will that require a seperate legal action? Or will the judge in the IBM case be able to demand that SCO return their ill-gotten gain? (makes me sick just thinking about it).
And will/should the refund include interest?
LOL. Ok I'll go for that. But only if we get to include the nuke lab at Arco for defense use.