Sorry if this is redundant, I didn't have time to check every comment:). Anyways, the one problem I see in this is finding who to place the blame on. So many things can cause failures these days you better be damn sure the people you are sueing are actually to blame. Was it hardware the failed. the OS, a 3rd party library, or another application altogether? I think a lot of people wouldn't do the required research to firugre out the exact cause of the problem before they started throwing lawsuits around. Most people already don't on other issues...
OK, you went to far! A car without a cup holder is like a car without an ash tray... it doesn't even deserve the title of car. It's hard enough driving when drinking beer. Don't complicate matters by demanding we hold the cup too.
I believe you missed the point. They are perfectly allowed to make their computer look and act like windows and run windows programs. All they got to do is install windows... Linux is nice because it is different. Problem is all these new users don't like it being different, so for some oddball reason they wanna ditch windows so they can recreate, well, windows, and they're influencing developers. If Linux was just a sub-par windows clone, why would anyone want to use it? Well... hang on for the ride, that's exactly where we are heading.
The Linux Planet review is not very well done.
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emulate Audio pronunciation of emulate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (my-lt) tr.v. emulated, emulating, emulates
1. To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation: an older pupil whose accomplishments and style I emulated.
2. To compete with successfully; approach or attain equality with.
3. Computer Science. To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
Look very closely at that third one. Allow me to also point out that the "Wine Is Not an Emulator" is not what WINE actually stands for despite popular belief that it does. Anyways, to further solidify WINE's status as an emulator, lets look up the word "imitate."
imitate Audio pronunciation of imitate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-tt) tr.v. imitated, imitating, imitates
1. To use or follow as a model.
2.
1. To copy the actions, appearance, mannerisms, or speech of; mimic: amused friends by imitating the teachers.
2. To copy or use the style of: brushwork that imitates Rembrandt.
3. To copy exactly; reproduce.
4. To appear like; resemble.
Now please try to get over the means by which wine accomplishes its end of emulating windows. I remember when another emulator called UltraHLE came out, and people tried to claim it was not an emulator because it didn't follow the classical means of emulation. It used high level emulation. Despite that word emulation being in the type pf emulator it was, people still tried to claim it was not one. Emulation is an end, and an emulator is the software that produces that end. VMWare may be in a class of emulators called a virtual machine, but it is still an emulator. WINE may emulate windows by "translating windows system calls to X11 equivalents" (which btw is extremely vague), but that does not make it any less of an emulator.
This exact same thing happened to me with Yamaha. Pretty much word for word. Although the quality of my new burner weighs heavier than how pissed off I got over the rebate.:P
And thankfully, starwars episode 1 and 2 were excellent. Too bad the creator is such a tight ass these days tho... practically had to force him to release the damn dvd's.
Ever seen the stunts in The Matrix? There's a reason they don't actually DO them. If they were possible, someone actually would. They're called stunt men.
Most everyone here should know that a free project with no incoming profit stream usually comes with that big "no warranty expressed or implied" disclaimer, and no technical support. This, however, is only a disclaimer, and a lot of project development teams are very helpful and responsive to users questions. This is a good thing that is happens so much, but as usual there is a dark side. Users become 4 year old spoiled brats.
I've had no personal experience with this guy before, as I haven't run into a problem in mplayer I couldn't fix myself from RTFM/S (Reading the... Manual/Source), but from what I hear he has no desire to play tech support guy for the hundreds of users of mplayer. What should we think of this? I think that I don't blame him, I'd be telling people to F Off too, I don't have time for that shit. Is free not enough for you people here? I'm sick of seeing crap like "I would use MPlayer, but the author told me to RTFM!"
Boo Fucking Hoo
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So, this is exactly the same problem with OpenSSH, and how anyone can decrypt a SSH session because the source is open... erm oh wait, it's not that easy. Just to throw in a phrase well all hate, but is applicalbe here... Please think OUTSIDE the box.
Holy shit, it really doesn't play solitaire? There should be a law against that! What would I do at a job with no solitaire... it's like willfully giving up sex.
You forgot the other reason to use it! The idea of using it for a HTPC is pretty slick. One of the most important things to me for a good looking htpc (needs to look like a stereo component imho) is the status display. A full color lcd screen would work perfect for this! I'd much rather use that than a small black and white LCD only capable of displaying numbers and letters mounted in a 5 1/4" drive bay. You'd of course have to end up writing your own software for the status display, but if you did this could look extremely slick, especially with custom software to drive a nice remote control, like ATI's RF remote.
... punks worrying about nothing but yourself! We got a $74 billion pointless war to fight for the love of god! We can't expect the government to have to pay money to protect our freedom!
I dunno... I notice a benefit going from 800x600 to 1600x1200 on my 19" (18" vis) monitor. That's (READ: roughly) NTSC max res to HDTV max res. Heck, even progressive scan scaled DVD's using a software dvd player look better at 1600x1200 than 800x600... Now I probably won't be buying this box, but I do have to argue that regular NTSC or even PAL res isn't exactly the highest a 19" screen should aim for.
How exactly is ESD a kludge? Sure it may not be the best of the group, but it's how you play multiple sounds on a card that only has one output channel. If ESD or another daemon doesn't do it, the driver will.
Now, if you really want it easy, buy a card with multiple hardware outputs and software support to match. The emu10k1 is a fine example of this. I can have up to 64 apps accessing/dev/dsp simultaneously.
Also, Alsa does software mixing in the drive if you don't have hardware support for it, i.e. esd in the driver. So please don't bitch about lack of solutions if you haven't thoroughly researched the topic.
Perhaps you missed the point. See these people are attending this thing to discuss the future of linux audio, and how they want to procede getting linux audio to the point you so nicely put that it is NOT at. Give US a break and quite pretending like every sentence with "linux" in the word is secretly meant to say "linux is perfect for X app, USE IT!"
I doubt anyways knows. Does anything exist outside of it? Even empty space must exist. Dark Matter, "Void", whatever you might think would be there must exist, but from what I'd guess there is no existance beyond well... existance. It's a little crazy to think about, and your mind may be extremely unwilling to accept such an idea, but I'd imagine it's the case. Dimension and time wouldn't be out there, as those are part of our universe. You really get into some freaky concepts when you turn your thought in this direction... if nothing existed, if there was no reality... there would be no shape, no form, no time, no space... nothing is not a strong enough word.
Hope this helps at least a little. Though there might be some actual theories out there. IIRC string theory includes the possibility of other universes existing in a multiverse, but then... what's outside the multiverse;)?
Perpare yourself, my evidence is going to be as unsubstantiated as yours, but that's ok 'cause this is more fun;).
Plans are no longer respected or valued since "you can call me when you're ready to do somethin'. I should have my cell on"
Think about the point in making a plan and keeping time in general. The whole idea is that you decide to do something while your in contact with a person, and then time and location is the only means you have of "contact" after that. You show up at the specified time and place, and hopefully the other person did too.
New technologies obsolete that kind of thinking, and provide us with the flexability of being able to do things on a whim and while on the move. It's a step foreward, not backward.
The most major annoyance i have is when I'm hanging out with someone, having a good time, and they get a call and an invitation to go somewhere else. Its just overly intrusive and disrespectful
There will always be rude people unfortunately. This is a problem with their attitude than the new technologies. I'll make plans with people while I'm already engaged in something else, but I'll make the plan in a way that doesn't sell short the current situation. IF I PLAN to do something like that then I let someone know, like "hey I got something comin gup, but I don't know when.. wanna chill 'till I gtg?"
it is seen as necessary to respect all beliefs. I think we do ourselves a discredit by that.
This is just typical of the current world political climate. Do you realize what you just said? The implications of it?
If I chose to believe in a religion that YOU think is a bogus belief that should not be respected, what would you propose be done? Would you attempt to force me to change my views? If so, how? Would you threaten to throw me in jail, physical violence, revoke my citizenship? How far would you go? Perhaps you would just make fun of me, which is at least mildly acceptable. You see, I respect your right to make fun.. even if I don't approve.
If I make a clay sculpture of a half woman, half goat thing, and I decide to worship it by performaing a ritual each night where I masturbate to it while chanting.. hell lets throw in some self mutilation too just for fun, then that is MY business. On the other hand if you chose to only believe in what can be quantified, then that is yours.
Perhaps we should protect the ignorant from exploitation, but we should respect the rights of everyone to believe in unquantifiable phenomenon if they so chose. I'm so sick of people thinkignt that just because they believe a certain thing, then everyone else should too. You're no different than the ultra-scary christian who would throw holy water on you shouting about how you are going to hell, and wants to get a law passed to make his church state supported. (S)He'd simply love it if the law forced me to become baptized and attend church every meeting. That last bit of your post was no different.
Give us the freedom to live our lives how we chose, so long as we don't interfere with others lives, and we will do the same for you.
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Sorry if this is redundant, I didn't have time to check every comment :). Anyways, the one problem I see in this is finding who to place the blame on. So many things can cause failures these days you better be damn sure the people you are sueing are actually to blame. Was it hardware the failed. the OS, a 3rd party library, or another application altogether? I think a lot of people wouldn't do the required research to firugre out the exact cause of the problem before they started throwing lawsuits around. Most people already don't on other issues...
OK, you went to far! A car without a cup holder is like a car without an ash tray... it doesn't even deserve the title of car. It's hard enough driving when drinking beer. Don't complicate matters by demanding we hold the cup too.
I believe you missed the point. They are perfectly allowed to make their computer look and act like windows and run windows programs. All they got to do is install windows... Linux is nice because it is different. Problem is all these new users don't like it being different, so for some oddball reason they wanna ditch windows so they can recreate, well, windows, and they're influencing developers. If Linux was just a sub-par windows clone, why would anyone want to use it? Well... hang on for the ride, that's exactly where we are heading.
emulate Audio pronunciation of emulate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (my-lt)
tr.v. emulated, emulating, emulates
1. To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation: an older pupil whose accomplishments and style I emulated.
2. To compete with successfully; approach or attain equality with.
3. Computer Science. To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system.
Look very closely at that third one. Allow me to also point out that the "Wine Is Not an Emulator" is not what WINE actually stands for despite popular belief that it does. Anyways, to further solidify WINE's status as an emulator, lets look up the word "imitate."
imitate Audio pronunciation of imitate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-tt)
tr.v. imitated, imitating, imitates
1. To use or follow as a model.
2.
1. To copy the actions, appearance, mannerisms, or speech of; mimic: amused friends by imitating the teachers.
2. To copy or use the style of: brushwork that imitates Rembrandt.
3. To copy exactly; reproduce.
4. To appear like; resemble.
Now please try to get over the means by which wine accomplishes its end of emulating windows. I remember when another emulator called UltraHLE came out, and people tried to claim it was not an emulator because it didn't follow the classical means of emulation. It used high level emulation. Despite that word emulation being in the type pf emulator it was, people still tried to claim it was not one. Emulation is an end, and an emulator is the software that produces that end. VMWare may be in a class of emulators called a virtual machine, but it is still an emulator. WINE may emulate windows by "translating windows system calls to X11 equivalents" (which btw is extremely vague), but that does not make it any less of an emulator.
This exact same thing happened to me with Yamaha. Pretty much word for word. Although the quality of my new burner weighs heavier than how pissed off I got over the rebate. :P
I, think, it just, may be, possible, that you are, overusing, commas. ;)
And thankfully, starwars episode 1 and 2 were excellent. Too bad the creator is such a tight ass these days tho... practically had to force him to release the damn dvd's.
Ever seen the stunts in The Matrix? There's a reason they don't actually DO them. If they were possible, someone actually would. They're called stunt men.
Most everyone here should know that a free project with no incoming profit stream usually comes with that big "no warranty expressed or implied" disclaimer, and no technical support. This, however, is only a disclaimer, and a lot of project development teams are very helpful and responsive to users questions. This is a good thing that is happens so much, but as usual there is a dark side. Users become 4 year old spoiled brats.
... Manual/Source), but from what I hear he has no desire to play tech support guy for the hundreds of users of mplayer. What should we think of this? I think that I don't blame him, I'd be telling people to F Off too, I don't have time for that shit. Is free not enough for you people here? I'm sick of seeing crap like "I would use MPlayer, but the author told me to RTFM!"
I've had no personal experience with this guy before, as I haven't run into a problem in mplayer I couldn't fix myself from RTFM/S (Reading the
Boo Fucking Hoo
So, this is exactly the same problem with OpenSSH, and how anyone can decrypt a SSH session because the source is open... erm oh wait, it's not that easy. Just to throw in a phrase well all hate, but is applicalbe here... Please think OUTSIDE the box.
afaik all matter decays over time. I might be wrong :)
www.freshmeat.net - Your new central hub. :D
Perhaps people will finally start adopting ipv6. Perhaps there's a bright side to this.
Holy shit, it really doesn't play solitaire? There should be a law against that! What would I do at a job with no solitaire... it's like willfully giving up sex.
You forgot the other reason to use it! The idea of using it for a HTPC is pretty slick. One of the most important things to me for a good looking htpc (needs to look like a stereo component imho) is the status display. A full color lcd screen would work perfect for this! I'd much rather use that than a small black and white LCD only capable of displaying numbers and letters mounted in a 5 1/4" drive bay. You'd of course have to end up writing your own software for the status display, but if you did this could look extremely slick, especially with custom software to drive a nice remote control, like ATI's RF remote.
Well.. I got one funny, one insightful?, and one troll. :) Guess I pissed off a republican, ammused a democrat, and confused some poor independant ;).
... punks worrying about nothing but yourself! We got a $74 billion pointless war to fight for the love of god! We can't expect the government to have to pay money to protect our freedom!
I dunno... I notice a benefit going from 800x600 to 1600x1200 on my 19" (18" vis) monitor. That's (READ: roughly) NTSC max res to HDTV max res. Heck, even progressive scan scaled DVD's using a software dvd player look better at 1600x1200 than 800x600... Now I probably won't be buying this box, but I do have to argue that regular NTSC or even PAL res isn't exactly the highest a 19" screen should aim for.
You can find a hdtv for $400?! Just where on earth can you find that! Hell even 30" HDTV's are still > $1000 everywhere I've looked.
How exactly is ESD a kludge? Sure it may not be the best of the group, but it's how you play multiple sounds on a card that only has one output channel. If ESD or another daemon doesn't do it, the driver will.
/dev/dsp simultaneously.
Now, if you really want it easy, buy a card with multiple hardware outputs and software support to match. The emu10k1 is a fine example of this. I can have up to 64 apps accessing
Also, Alsa does software mixing in the drive if you don't have hardware support for it, i.e. esd in the driver. So please don't bitch about lack of solutions if you haven't thoroughly researched the topic.
Perhaps you missed the point. See these people are attending this thing to discuss the future of linux audio, and how they want to procede getting linux audio to the point you so nicely put that it is NOT at. Give US a break and quite pretending like every sentence with "linux" in the word is secretly meant to say "linux is perfect for X app, USE IT!"
I doubt anyways knows. Does anything exist outside of it? Even empty space must exist. Dark Matter, "Void", whatever you might think would be there must exist, but from what I'd guess there is no existance beyond well... existance. It's a little crazy to think about, and your mind may be extremely unwilling to accept such an idea, but I'd imagine it's the case. Dimension and time wouldn't be out there, as those are part of our universe. You really get into some freaky concepts when you turn your thought in this direction... if nothing existed, if there was no reality... there would be no shape, no form, no time, no space... nothing is not a strong enough word.
;)?
Hope this helps at least a little. Though there might be some actual theories out there. IIRC string theory includes the possibility of other universes existing in a multiverse, but then... what's outside the multiverse
Perpare yourself, my evidence is going to be as unsubstantiated as yours, but that's ok 'cause this is more fun ;).
Plans are no longer respected or valued since "you can call me when you're ready to do somethin'. I should have my cell on"
Think about the point in making a plan and keeping time in general. The whole idea is that you decide to do something while your in contact with a person, and then time and location is the only means you have of "contact" after that. You show up at the specified time and place, and hopefully the other person did too.
New technologies obsolete that kind of thinking, and provide us with the flexability of being able to do things on a whim and while on the move. It's a step foreward, not backward.
The most major annoyance i have is when I'm hanging out with someone, having a good time, and they get a call and an invitation to go somewhere else. Its just overly intrusive and disrespectful
There will always be rude people unfortunately. This is a problem with their attitude than the new technologies. I'll make plans with people while I'm already engaged in something else, but I'll make the plan in a way that doesn't sell short the current situation. IF I PLAN to do something like that then I let someone know, like "hey I got something comin gup, but I don't know when.. wanna chill 'till I gtg?"
Hmm... I shall eat my words then, I misjudged.
:)
I agree with all that
it is seen as necessary to respect all beliefs. I think we do ourselves a discredit by that.
This is just typical of the current world political climate. Do you realize what you just said? The implications of it?
If I chose to believe in a religion that YOU think is a bogus belief that should not be respected, what would you propose be done? Would you attempt to force me to change my views? If so, how? Would you threaten to throw me in jail, physical violence, revoke my citizenship? How far would you go? Perhaps you would just make fun of me, which is at least mildly acceptable. You see, I respect your right to make fun.. even if I don't approve.
If I make a clay sculpture of a half woman, half goat thing, and I decide to worship it by performaing a ritual each night where I masturbate to it while chanting.. hell lets throw in some self mutilation too just for fun, then that is MY business. On the other hand if you chose to only believe in what can be quantified, then that is yours.
Perhaps we should protect the ignorant from exploitation, but we should respect the rights of everyone to believe in unquantifiable phenomenon if they so chose. I'm so sick of people thinkignt that just because they believe a certain thing, then everyone else should too. You're no different than the ultra-scary christian who would throw holy water on you shouting about how you are going to hell, and wants to get a law passed to make his church state supported. (S)He'd simply love it if the law forced me to become baptized and attend church every meeting. That last bit of your post was no different.
Give us the freedom to live our lives how we chose, so long as we don't interfere with others lives, and we will do the same for you.