I envision a browser that lets me establish my personal policies: the data that I will allow to be sent with an explicit, silent, "yes" (which might be NO data); the data that will result in an explicit, silent "no"; the data that will be silently supplied on request only if I'm manually submitting a form via a secure server, etc.
That's good, but one might as well use JunkBuster or any other filtering proxy now and shield oneself. Yet how many people do?
Maybe the destiny of an average Joe-the-web-serfer does not have to be everybody's concern; maybe folks writing a browser would be able to create a very flexible and efficient way of setting up P3P policies, but it seems like a somewhat unlikely thing to me: just think how many people are able to set up mail filters properly.
Keeping your info as part of the browser settings and baing able to fill in forms on the fly (sortof like MSIE and now Mozilla) seems to me a more careful and balanced approach. Your general proof of identity could be a digital certificate that would not hold any more info than stating that this is really you.
There is only one drawback to this: while Excel does have a nice UI and is pretty good at what it does, I cannot say as much about Outlook. I just hope Evolution will not inherit a few nasty features of Outlook UI/functionality (will have to get and compile it before, I guess).
Which seems to be another thing AC was ranting about: if you open-source a project and are asking for public involvement/assistance, be so nice as to respect those who did contribute, don't just ignore/screw them.
PPC is not the only one left sort of in the cold out there. Look at Alpha -- a great chip, but what about proper support with Linux and GNU tools? See this story and this review for details.
This whole situation can be summarized thus: GNU/Linux are dominantly Intel-based.
Word is not the worst case here, Excel is even worse -- it has changed in almost every new release of MSOffice.
As for why this happens -- peer pressure, and that's exactly what Pauly talks about. If your client uses it, so will you (or at least you will have to convert to your customer's format before exchanging documents). In the recent past it was not even so much a question of tollerance, rather of no choice. Look at any of the Office Productivity Suites reviews at ZDNet or C|Net -- MS is almost always a clear-cut winner, even though most of the blows and whistles an average consumer will NEVER use (as a side note, wouldn't you think that most users could happily live with functionality of Word 2.0?).
As for what could be done to resolve it, I think that trying (whenever possible) to exchange HTML docs could be one solution, but you loose some control over the layout and won't be able to do any sort of document automation. And when it comes to a 3000+ page document -- you just gotta convince that customer not to use Word for this.
A few people had mentioned TeX and LaTeX, as well as SGML here, but I guess this is not the answer for Pauly, as his customers are not happy with it. OTOH, slowly educating them could help a lot. FrameMaker would be the best choice then: you don't need UNIX to run it (unless you'd want to try to convert your customer completely), get great documents, can convert them into SGML (with FrameMaker-SGML).
People "misappropriate copyrighted material" because the current system of distribution doesn't work. This isn't the fault of the people downloading MP3s, it's the fault of the music industry. People are realizing just how much music is out there, and they want access to it. Up 'til now, they knew what the top 40 was and beyond that, they had very little opportunity to hear anything else. CDs cost too damn much to buy on a whim. If you haven't been able to listen to the music first, you can easily end up with a $16.99 coaster (or maybe sell it to a used cd store for $3). What makes things even worse is that most radio stations play the exact same crap. They're all owned by the same people. Now people can listen to all sorts of music that they wouldn't want to buy because they hadn't heard it yet.
There used to be time when you could go and buy a tape for a LOT less than a CD ($4-5), and if you then liked the album, you'd go for a CD. Or you could "misappropriate copyrighted material" by copying a CD from a friend of yours on a tape, listen tio it, like it--buy it, otherwise ditch it. Nowdays a tape costs just marginally less than a CD ~$10-14, but MP3 replaces it splendidly (including better sound quality).
...What RMS is really talking about is mandatory disclosure and a fixed $0.00 price tag on software.
He does not propose a $0.00 price tag. Keep in mind he was, indeed, selling Emacs, though not for profit. Don't forget that we are talking of free as in freedom, not beer.
I am Russian, and it may seem logical that I should be very well aware of a huge number of sites that are Russian that may be on par, if not overwhelm those in English (yeah, a bit of a stretch:-)).
I am not. Way over 2/3 of the sites I frequent are in English, and do you know why? They have more up-to-date information than any Russian site, unless it is Russia-centric (broad term, meaning any "local" news, etc.).
This is what important: Internet does not exist in an isolation from the rest of the world. Until a market crash in US sends shivers all over the world, smashing smaller exonomies and weaker currencies, English will not leave a position of lingua franca.
This is not necesserily a bad thing: in a way it was a fairly free selection process. Mind you that English is much better formalized than many other languages: German, Slavic (i.e. Russian, Ukraining, Czech, Polish, etc.) have much relaxed grammar, are frequently very mutable (Russian has 6 cases for, each changing word ending, sometimes word structure as well). English is better in this regard for formal communication: less ambiguity.
So, whatever happens 100 years from now--it will most likely be anything, but whatever is discussed in this thread. It will be better, at least for the time...
I think that the heart of this forum's discussion should not be whether a cheap stripped down laptop in a bullet-proof case or small webpad-like devices should be used in schools. The right question to ask is what should be the place of a computer in a school, and then see what sort of a device could better fill the need.
Now, to my understanding, computer should not really be treated as something special. On the contrary, it is no different than a notebook (paper) or an ordinary textbook. And children have to know how to use them and use efficiently.
It's a shame when kids can't count in their heads and have difficulty reading/writing. But computers (and related devices, like organizers, calculators) are not at fault here. It is schooling system that is at fault: if kids are not taught how, they won't know how.
This has been noted a few times in this thread: if teachers feel intimidated by the sole look of a PC, so will be their students.
If we put computers into school, and give them the proper treatment (read: use them as easily-updatable textbooks, mediums to present multimedia-rich classes, submit homework electronically, encourage well-organized researches, etc., etc.), then it becomes apparent that what one would really want from them (functionality-wise) is not going to fit under a sub-$200 hull. Moreover, you would also want to change the whole inrastructure in the school to be able to match that of the students PC-companion (or shall we call them 'desks', like they were at Ender's school?).
Maybe I want too much from a tool like that, but I think that to really serve us well for the cause, such devices should have:
Good graphics and very high resolution screens -- you don't want everybody to wear inch-thick glasses by the time they get to become freshmen.
Touch screens -- to make all those nice little notes on your homework, highlite things in a textbook, etc.
Hand-writing recognition -- this is where Newton Pads could flourish (maybe). Then again, what use are we if we can't take a quick note without a keyboard around?
Voice recognition/voice recording -- to take a quick note in class, type-up (speakwrite:)) a research paper, etc.
Net connectivity: you'd want to easily access library resources, periodicals, stream the latest biology lecture/chemistry lab
Obviously, capable to withstand the energy of a young growing organizm
Very light
Have power source that can last (at least) the hole day, ideally -- a few days
It would seem to make sense to start not with desks, though. Back-end is more important: powerful school/library resources, textbooks online, centralized storage systems, etc. In parallel, but not as the driver of this process, the creation of a client device (desk) should go. It may well be both portable (notebook to a medium textbook in size, about as heavy) and static (built into a regular desk).
This (gradual) way computers at school (and, as a result, in the rest of our lives) will be an evolutionary change, like parchment vs. papirus or hand-written books vs. printed. And they will sieze to be thought of as a difficult to understand biege boxes.
Yeah, but don't forget that BeOS is an OS and it uses a different aproach to the file system organization -- it is a database (or database-like). Hence it is very logical for them to organize BeMail's email messages as separate files, tagging various attributes, indexing them in any imaginable way for easy search.
Now, Linux (and other Unices) are Not running on top of a database. Searching and storing emeil in one HUGE file is really a problem. True, you can archive it, split it into smaller ones, etc, but then searchuing becomes a problem. Yeah, you can grep the whole mail directory, but it is not neccesserily the best and simplest approach.
So, to sum this up -- it does make sense to do what Miguel is describing as Evolution features. In fact, a nice GUI email client is what GNOME (and not only GNOME) needs. Balsa/Spruce/Mahogany are there, but I somehow keep on preferring mutt to their shaky GUI interfaces.
What did shock me is Evolution's interface -- this is an MS-freaking-Outlook! Look ath the pane layout, icons on a shortcut bar, etc. That's lame. They seem to build it to very closely resemble Outlook and cc:Mail. But there are many of things in Outlook that make it very clunky at best. For example, I cannot thread messages in an easy-to-see tree form like in mutt or Netscape's Messenger.
This is what bothers me way more than the fact that all my messages will be separate files (well, just need to make sure that I set a smaller block suze on that partition...), very well indexed and easily searchable. But taking by far not the best email client's appearance... Sad...
It is partially compliant, i.e. if you install NT Resource Kit, you get a handful of UN*Xish tools/commands like ls/grep/chmod/chown/vi, etc. In theory you could get some POSIX-compliant apps to run on NT. A shell script that prints "Hello, world", for example.
Is it useful? Hardly. Can it be called "compliance"? With a very big stretch of imagination.
Basically, the short story is: at some point of time in future, when technological advances were incredible (just like the future from the article), a revolt against the machines and its use takes place (Butlerian Jihad) that ultimately prohibits the creation of thinking machines. Instead a numbver of schools emerge (like Bene Gesserit and Mentats) that "enhance" humans via training to perform tasks unknown. There is a bit of genetic manipulations going on, but these are of the proper breeding type: saving precious genes, enhancing them with other ones, etc.
As a result, you get Mentats that are, essentially, living computers capable of complex data manipulations; Bene Gesserit who are sort of like Yoga adepts on steroids. But you also get such ones as Tleilaxu -- they mess with real genes, do clonings and such.
I guess what I mean is that there are immence powers in us, as we are human beings of flesh and blood. Yes, technological advances are great and they will be applied to make us live longer, learn faster (think brain caps from Oddissey), etc. Yet wouldn't it just make more sense to understand what other things we could be without turning into Borgs?
Unfortunately saving and re-openning does not help. Manual editing does, but if your table is complex enough it is a nightmare, really.
Another option that could be cool -- wrapping cells in WYSIWYM mode (i.e. if cell width is fixed, or enlarging the cell would cause table to "spill over" the edge of a screen, wrap text in WYSIWYM [but not necessarily in.dvi or.ps output])
One really lousy thing in LyX is tables. While they look great in the output, they suck on WYSIWYM side. Whenever your lines are too long you get tables that are as wide as Texas. Also you can never delete a blank line in out of a table (or at least I could not find a way of doing it). [I mean a blank line, not an extra row]
One little detail I have forgotten to mention in my previous post -- the full version of FrameMaker is supposed to support RTF as well as MS Word formats for import (and export?). There is also a FrameMaker SGML version (though I am not sure if there is Linux port of it) -- would not this be a great tool for LDP?
Your review is quite nice & interesting, lacking in only one thing: it is not full. If you are setting the goal to review just word processing software, than it should not matter whether AbiWord is a standalone app or not. And yes, if reviewing betas (and even pre-alfas as with KOffice) -- better review WP2000 than an outdated WP8.
LyX definitely should be on the least. It is great for many things, while so much different than any other package you might consider stacking against it. With its WYSIWYM vs. WYSIWYG metaphor it lets you put together a document in a much more efficient way without going into LaTeX/TeX/SGML.
You may also want to include Adobe's FrameMaker 5.5.6 Beta for Linux -- this is a great package as well. Bring power of desktop publishing with ordinary word processor ease of use -- all within a beta package set to expire some 10 months from now (31-Dec-2000).
I have been running Debian GNU/Linux on my TP-770E (9548 series) for over 6 months now -- I just love it. Granted, there were some pains with it at the beginning, disappointment and frustration... But now it just rocks on!
I'm fortunate enough not to have a freaking mwave modem (and that bastard by far not the easiest thing to properly configure and setup under NT either), an ordinary PC-card modem works great. There are things in the wish list though:
accelerated server for X -- XF86_SVGA, even with mode_accel still sucks
suspend is freaky: never works from within X, shaky otherwise
(this one, I believe, goes for all notebook users) better PC-card support, especially ethernet
A word of caution: NEVER use IBM EtherJet card with it. Better never use it at all. Had all sorts of problem with it: a driver for it is not a part of standard pcmcia-cs package, it is slow -- Samba and NFS just choke on it. I use 3COM now, and am a happy man:)
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I believe E-Mac Enlightenment theme author was planning at some time putting a Mac-like file manager (Finder) into works. If I also remember correctly, Rasterman and Mandrake also were discussing filemanager integration into E. Shouldn't these folk talk to each other? Maybe something even greater than what is already out there can come out of this.
It is great that somebody is reinventing the wheel yet again. After all, if not for that we'd probably have spokes in the truck wheels!:)
Also, for all of you "Why don't you get into a GNOME/KDE wagon!": the source is there, on the site. Get it. Look at it. Propose to fit it in, if it is possible. Such an extensive DND as the one implemented in RISC OS would not hurt either of desktop environments. And this truly is a usability enhancement, not an eye-candy.
...except my little alarm clock: Casio Digital Light Clock TCL-100 stubbornly shows date as
12.31
Anybody else out there with the same model by chance?:)
The only trouble so far. Did not have to make a door stop out of my Palm IIIx, my Linux box is humming away peacefully... Weather is great: it is sunny and still...
Amaya is nice, but if it really is so standards-compliant, then it has a very tough time around: not a single site (except for the very plain ones) is rendered anywhere close to what any other browser would show. Not even lynx.
On Opera: a nice README could help very much. Basic things, like this works, this does not, or here you can just edit opera.ini file.
Otherwise, as pointed out in some other post, it was not even possible to go beyond a proxy.
I'd say that Mozilla M12 is in a better shape feature and stability-wise than this Opera beta. Then again this MDI thing... Nice that they did not (could not?) use in under BeOS, though.
What is? How about:
What saves you then? Same example will go for the other platform as well:
The difference is that the first case done like so...
...will not work, as you know./p
That's good, but one might as well use JunkBuster or any other filtering proxy now and shield oneself. Yet how many people do?
Maybe the destiny of an average Joe-the-web-serfer does not have to be everybody's concern; maybe folks writing a browser would be able to create a very flexible and efficient way of setting up P3P policies, but it seems like a somewhat unlikely thing to me: just think how many people are able to set up mail filters properly.
Keeping your info as part of the browser settings and baing able to fill in forms on the fly (sortof like MSIE and now Mozilla) seems to me a more careful and balanced approach. Your general proof of identity could be a digital certificate that would not hold any more info than stating that this is really you.
Sorry, if you've seen this interview at /., you'd know why
# apt-get install kde
results in
E: Couldn't find package kde
Short story: QPL (see #2 in the a.m. link).
There is only one drawback to this: while Excel does have a nice UI and is pretty good at what it does, I cannot say as much about Outlook. I just hope Evolution will not inherit a few nasty features of Outlook UI/functionality (will have to get and compile it before, I guess).
Which seems to be another thing AC was ranting about: if you open-source a project and are asking for public involvement/assistance, be so nice as to respect those who did contribute, don't just ignore/screw them.
PPC is not the only one left sort of in the cold out there. Look at Alpha -- a great chip, but what about proper support with Linux and GNU tools? See this story and this review for details.
This whole situation can be summarized thus: GNU/Linux are dominantly Intel-based.
Word is not the worst case here, Excel is even worse -- it has changed in almost every new release of MSOffice.
As for why this happens -- peer pressure, and that's exactly what Pauly talks about. If your client uses it, so will you (or at least you will have to convert to your customer's format before exchanging documents). In the recent past it was not even so much a question of tollerance, rather of no choice. Look at any of the Office Productivity Suites reviews at ZDNet or C|Net -- MS is almost always a clear-cut winner, even though most of the blows and whistles an average consumer will NEVER use (as a side note, wouldn't you think that most users could happily live with functionality of Word 2.0?).
As for what could be done to resolve it, I think that trying (whenever possible) to exchange HTML docs could be one solution, but you loose some control over the layout and won't be able to do any sort of document automation. And when it comes to a 3000+ page document -- you just gotta convince that customer not to use Word for this.
A few people had mentioned TeX and LaTeX, as well as SGML here, but I guess this is not the answer for Pauly, as his customers are not happy with it. OTOH, slowly educating them could help a lot. FrameMaker would be the best choice then: you don't need UNIX to run it (unless you'd want to try to convert your customer completely), get great documents, can convert them into SGML (with FrameMaker-SGML).
There used to be time when you could go and buy a tape for a LOT less than a CD ($4-5), and if you then liked the album, you'd go for a CD. Or you could "misappropriate copyrighted material" by copying a CD from a friend of yours on a tape, listen tio it, like it--buy it, otherwise ditch it. Nowdays a tape costs just marginally less than a CD ~$10-14, but MP3 replaces it splendidly (including better sound quality).
He does not propose a $0.00 price tag. Keep in mind he was, indeed, selling Emacs, though not for profit. Don't forget that we are talking of free as in freedom, not beer.
I am Russian, and it may seem logical that I should be very well aware of a huge number of sites that are Russian that may be on par, if not overwhelm those in English (yeah, a bit of a stretch :-)).
I am not. Way over 2/3 of the sites I frequent are in English, and do you know why? They have more up-to-date information than any Russian site, unless it is Russia-centric (broad term, meaning any "local" news, etc.).
This is what important: Internet does not exist in an isolation from the rest of the world. Until a market crash in US sends shivers all over the world, smashing smaller exonomies and weaker currencies, English will not leave a position of lingua franca.
This is not necesserily a bad thing: in a way it was a fairly free selection process. Mind you that English is much better formalized than many other languages: German, Slavic (i.e. Russian, Ukraining, Czech, Polish, etc.) have much relaxed grammar, are frequently very mutable (Russian has 6 cases for, each changing word ending, sometimes word structure as well). English is better in this regard for formal communication: less ambiguity.
So, whatever happens 100 years from now--it will most likely be anything, but whatever is discussed in this thread. It will be better, at least for the time...
I think that the heart of this forum's discussion should not be whether a cheap stripped down laptop in a bullet-proof case or small webpad-like devices should be used in schools. The right question to ask is what should be the place of a computer in a school, and then see what sort of a device could better fill the need.
Now, to my understanding, computer should not really be treated as something special. On the contrary, it is no different than a notebook (paper) or an ordinary textbook. And children have to know how to use them and use efficiently.
It's a shame when kids can't count in their heads and have difficulty reading/writing. But computers (and related devices, like organizers, calculators) are not at fault here. It is schooling system that is at fault: if kids are not taught how, they won't know how.
This has been noted a few times in this thread: if teachers feel intimidated by the sole look of a PC, so will be their students.
If we put computers into school, and give them the proper treatment (read: use them as easily-updatable textbooks, mediums to present multimedia-rich classes, submit homework electronically, encourage well-organized researches, etc., etc.), then it becomes apparent that what one would really want from them (functionality-wise) is not going to fit under a sub-$200 hull. Moreover, you would also want to change the whole inrastructure in the school to be able to match that of the students PC-companion (or shall we call them 'desks', like they were at Ender's school?).
Maybe I want too much from a tool like that, but I think that to really serve us well for the cause, such devices should have:
It would seem to make sense to start not with desks, though. Back-end is more important: powerful school/library resources, textbooks online, centralized storage systems, etc. In parallel, but not as the driver of this process, the creation of a client device (desk) should go. It may well be both portable (notebook to a medium textbook in size, about as heavy) and static (built into a regular desk).
This (gradual) way computers at school (and, as a result, in the rest of our lives) will be an evolutionary change, like parchment vs. papirus or hand-written books vs. printed. And they will sieze to be thought of as a difficult to understand biege boxes.
Now, Linux (and other Unices) are Not running on top of a database. Searching and storing emeil in one HUGE file is really a problem. True, you can archive it, split it into smaller ones, etc, but then searchuing becomes a problem. Yeah, you can grep the whole mail directory, but it is not neccesserily the best and simplest approach.
So, to sum this up -- it does make sense to do what Miguel is describing as Evolution features. In fact, a nice GUI email client is what GNOME (and not only GNOME) needs. Balsa/Spruce/Mahogany are there, but I somehow keep on preferring mutt to their shaky GUI interfaces.
What did shock me is Evolution's interface -- this is an MS-freaking-Outlook! Look ath the pane layout, icons on a shortcut bar, etc. That's lame. They seem to build it to very closely resemble Outlook and cc:Mail. But there are many of things in Outlook that make it very clunky at best. For example, I cannot thread messages in an easy-to-see tree form like in mutt or Netscape's Messenger.
This is what bothers me way more than the fact that all my messages will be separate files (well, just need to make sure that I set a smaller block suze on that partition...), very well indexed and easily searchable. But taking by far not the best email client's appearance... Sad...
Is it useful? Hardly. Can it be called "compliance"? With a very big stretch of imagination.
Well, I'd say you should give it another try.
Basically, the short story is: at some point of time in future, when technological advances were incredible (just like the future from the article), a revolt against the machines and its use takes place (Butlerian Jihad) that ultimately prohibits the creation of thinking machines. Instead a numbver of schools emerge (like Bene Gesserit and Mentats) that "enhance" humans via training to perform tasks unknown. There is a bit of genetic manipulations going on, but these are of the proper breeding type: saving precious genes, enhancing them with other ones, etc.
As a result, you get Mentats that are, essentially, living computers capable of complex data manipulations; Bene Gesserit who are sort of like Yoga adepts on steroids. But you also get such ones as Tleilaxu -- they mess with real genes, do clonings and such.
I guess what I mean is that there are immence powers in us, as we are human beings of flesh and blood. Yes, technological advances are great and they will be applied to make us live longer, learn faster (think brain caps from Oddissey), etc. Yet wouldn't it just make more sense to understand what other things we could be without turning into Borgs?
Could as well go/be achieved another way: think Dune: Butlerian Jihad and Bene Gesserit/Mentat teachings. Or maybe Tleilaxu?
Unfortunately saving and re-openning does not help. Manual editing does, but if your table is complex enough it is a nightmare, really.
.dvi or .ps output])
Another option that could be cool -- wrapping cells in WYSIWYM mode (i.e. if cell width is fixed, or enlarging the cell would cause table to "spill over" the edge of a screen, wrap text in WYSIWYM [but not necessarily in
One really lousy thing in LyX is tables. While they look great in the output, they suck on WYSIWYM side. Whenever your lines are too long you get tables that are as wide as Texas. Also you can never delete a blank line in out of a table (or at least I could not find a way of doing it). [I mean a blank line, not an extra row]
One little detail I have forgotten to mention in my previous post -- the full version of FrameMaker is supposed to support RTF as well as MS Word formats for import (and export?). There is also a FrameMaker SGML version (though I am not sure if there is Linux port of it) -- would not this be a great tool for LDP?
Your review is quite nice & interesting, lacking in only one thing: it is not full. If you are setting the goal to review just word processing software, than it should not matter whether AbiWord is a standalone app or not. And yes, if reviewing betas (and even pre-alfas as with KOffice) -- better review WP2000 than an outdated WP8.
LyX definitely should be on the least. It is great for many things, while so much different than any other package you might consider stacking against it. With its WYSIWYM vs. WYSIWYG metaphor it lets you put together a document in a much more efficient way without going into LaTeX/TeX/SGML.
You may also want to include Adobe's FrameMaker 5.5.6 Beta for Linux -- this is a great package as well. Bring power of desktop publishing with ordinary word processor ease of use -- all within a beta package set to expire some 10 months from now (31-Dec-2000).
http://terror.hungry.com/products/Ywindows/ ...
... but it does not seem to have been updated in quite awhile
You're welcome!
I have been running Debian GNU/Linux on my TP-770E (9548 series) for over 6 months now -- I just love it. Granted, there were some pains with it at the beginning, disappointment and frustration... But now it just rocks on!
I'm fortunate enough not to have a freaking mwave modem (and that bastard by far not the easiest thing to properly configure and setup under NT either), an ordinary PC-card modem works great. There are things in the wish list though:
A word of caution: NEVER use IBM EtherJet card with it. Better never use it at all. Had all sorts of problem with it: a driver for it is not a part of standard pcmcia-cs package, it is slow -- Samba and NFS just choke on it. I use 3COM now, and am a happy man :)
I believe E-Mac Enlightenment theme author was planning at some time putting a Mac-like file manager (Finder) into works. If I also remember correctly, Rasterman and Mandrake also were discussing filemanager integration into E. Shouldn't these folk talk to each other? Maybe something even greater than what is already out there can come out of this.
:)
It is great that somebody is reinventing the wheel yet again. After all, if not for that we'd probably have spokes in the truck wheels!
Also, for all of you "Why don't you get into a GNOME/KDE wagon!": the source is there, on the site. Get it. Look at it. Propose to fit it in, if it is possible. Such an extensive DND as the one implemented in RISC OS would not hurt either of desktop environments. And this truly is a usability enhancement, not an eye-candy.
...except my little alarm clock: Casio Digital Light Clock TCL-100 stubbornly shows date as
12.31
Anybody else out there with the same model by chance? :)
The only trouble so far. Did not have to make a door stop out of my Palm IIIx, my Linux box is humming away peacefully... Weather is great: it is sunny and still...
Please do not consider it a flamebait, but...
Amaya is nice, but if it really is so standards-compliant, then it has a very tough time around: not a single site (except for the very plain ones) is rendered anywhere close to what any other browser would show. Not even lynx.
On Opera: a nice README could help very much. Basic things, like this works, this does not, or here you can just edit opera.ini file.
Otherwise, as pointed out in some other post, it was not even possible to go beyond a proxy.
I'd say that Mozilla M12 is in a better shape feature and stability-wise than this Opera beta. Then again this MDI thing... Nice that they did not (could not?) use in under BeOS, though.