there is no consumer equipment that can make a digital copy from SACD source.
For SACD to become "popular", it will require a decent and cheap supply of hardware to play the format (car stereo, portable, home units, computers etc). Part of that will undoubtedly be hardware that could create a digital copy (either out of the box or modified in some manner). Back in the day, there was no consumer equipment that could rip the data off of or write to blank cd's either. Rinse, lather, repeat with a new format a few years later.
Many vehicles out there have the same exact engine and drivetrain, but have timing and whatnot adjusted via computer, one to give better fuel consumption, the other to givemore power.. and the manufactuere advertises one as 120HP engine, and one as 150HP. Same, exact, engine.
I'm sure this may happen but it is not common as you think. There is almost always different engine components. Speaking of the 90's Fords, many had the V8 5.0l and 4.6l. Almost the same short block (example of a short block) but very different induction, ignition, and exhaust systems. I'm sure for every company that only changes the "tuning" to get more horsepower from an existing engine, there are 30 others that have actually changed multiple engine components.
A good example of some drastic changes that can be had with tuning alone, check out some of the mods available for the truck diesel engines offered by the big three. These mods can achieve almost 75% more torque with nothing but electonics and exhaust temperature monitoring. The key is really the monitoring part!! You can wipe out an engine that noramlly lasts 100's of thousands of miles in minutes. These mods are NOT something the factory is going to put on themselves and sell to you.
Getting off topic but I've collected several GB's of videos of random racing, playing, and off the wall car and motorcycle stuff from KaZaa over the last few years. I could search around the web and ftp sites for it but P2P makes it easy to find and easy to get. Say what you want about P2P but there are legal uses.
company which poses no threat to Microsoft, and in fact builds it business on Microsoft products (Windows) claims they have targeted them.
Opera is cross platform and their business is far more then just Windows. IE and Opera compete on the embedded level also which MS does not currently have a monopoly on and can not just make them go away. This is more then Opera running on Windows not working on MSN by chance.
I just connected to 2 different shell providers I have on port 25 from my Comcast home connection and it worked fine. Maybe the blocking rule has not made it through their entire network yet.
They do not appear to have them now but I bought two of them last Xmas (12/2003). One with Lycoris and one with Lindows, $199 each for a total for $428 for both shipped to my house. A co worker bought one about 3 months ago also.
Both are as you described above but with a 30GB Maxtor HD and an LG 52x cdrom and some cheap speakers a KB and mouse. I added 256 more memory that I had laying around and changed to Mandrake 9.2 (after I updated the cdrom firmware;)) and are used every day as my kids primary computers.
Cases have gone the other way too so this is not a cut and dry area..
2 Live Crew vs. Roy Orbison determined that sampling in certain instances WAS legal (here and here) and not infringing. Of course 2 Live Crew had other legal problems but at least this one went in there favor.
I know your $10-15 mentioned was only an example but grocery shopping for very specific items is a lot of work. You are talking at least two hours from starting with the cart until you are at their house, add the time to process orders, get back to the grocery store blah blah. If the grocery store manages the process, they can supply the car painted with their advertisments, push other products and services, use existing employees to load up the carts etc.. Imagine a third party delivering pizza hut pizza for $1-2. It would not be profitable unless you value add something else.
It is a good idea but a grocery store will always have an economic advantage to any third party for this service.
And I know a lot of people just like me. My question is, why do these things still exist? Clearly, there must be some level of success amongst these companies, or else they wouldn't exist.
The spammers, scammers, and telemarketing firms still exist in some form because they are selling their service from two sides, the potential end consumer and the business that has something to sell.
There is no shortage of people wanting to sell something and no shortage of middlemen willing to put out the word to the people via the phone and mass email. The spammer changes names, companies, and sources and the seller realizes they got burned by a crappy click thru or response. Rinse lather and repeat next week with a different seller and a different spammer or telemarketing firm. Other then well established well known sellers using telemarketing, I doubt there are many long term relationships in the business of mass marketing. I can not name a single well known business that has sent UCE or flooded usenet using questionable practices to bypass filters. I know of some that tried various forms of spyware though.
Your computer with an internet connection with a microphone and speaker is doing the same thing a phone is doing no matter how you look at it. It allows you to have two way communication using your voice with someone else. Do you suggest we tax, the computer, the microphone, or the speakers when you use the computer in this manner?
I already pay taxes on my internet connection as does anyone else with a cable modem or DSL. Just because I decide to use voice converted to data over that internet connection does not mean I should now pay more taxes. Is an email tax next? A tax should not automatically apply because the "market" is similar.
Comcast does. I have to use my comcast username and password to send mail via their SMTP server from outside their IP space, I do not remember if auth is required within their ip space or not.
For Sprint dial *4 A call to this number used to use minutes from your plan but recent post on a non Sprint Sprintpcs news board indicates that is not the case anymore and it is a free call.
I know saying the FCC allows this makes it all sound good but think about that concept big picture. What gives the FCC the right and or power to allow my cellular phone provider to modify the terms of my contract I have with that cellular provider? You can tell this story 100 different ways but bottom line, that is exactly what is happening here. I am paying MORE per month then my original contract states and it is not because of a federal or local tax, that money goes directly to the carrier with little to no oversight on what they can charge and for how long. The cost of doing business is exactly that. A contract is exactly that. The cellular providers WANT long contracts to tie you into the service but also want the ability to raise rates after that contract is signed but masking it as an add on "fee" to cover costs. Here is an idea for them. If they want the ability to adjust the fees based on the cost of doing business, then do not have such long contracts. What if my county raises the taxes they want for each cellular phone, can I deduct that exact amount I pay my cell carrier every month as a "cost of owning a cell phone"? If the government raises the minimum wage and now all CSR's at the cellular company make 25 cents more an hour, would they be allowed to add a few bucks to you bill as a federal minimum wage increase fee? Hell no.
That is not his point. If a business does something questionable or illegal to gain more customers or get a sale, they are fined. The fine lets them know they are responsible for their actions and to keep them from doing it again. In thoery, they would have to raise their prices now to pay for the fine and still make money or suck up the loss so they can continue on. MS does NOT have any real competition. They consider overall market share across a wide range of products a valuble asset and can adjust prices on a single item based on the overall use of their products with little fallout. I see it as MS is playing a game on many fronts where it is cheaper to take a chance at something questionable and potentially pay the fine if caught and found quilty then to play it conservative and not do it in the first place. Basically, the fines and punishments are not offsetting the damage caused by the questionable business practice and they know it. Only a monopoly can do that.
Of course my supply has to come from somewhere but I'd assume the public supply would be tainted and noticed loooong before anything reached my own private well. I occasionally get some sand and grit but I'll take that over a blistering agent any day.
I'd like to hear more about how you decided on -q 6 for Oggs, I'm an audiophile
Although input from others is a great start, if you are truely looking for something to encode with that you would be happy listening too, it would save you time and hassles in the long run testing it yourself with your own ears on equipment you are familiar with.
I have a Ford Aspire I paid $3000 for that now has over 100K miles. I get roughly 38-45 MPG out of the 1.3L 5 speed engine. It depends on when and how I drive, in the winter it is slightly lower and above 70-75 it drops quickly. It is not fast but it gets me from point A to point B cheaply.
MS probably does not have to make money selling music from the store itself. They will license the technology to the player makers and encoding places (chah ching!), ensure the decoding can only happen on recent versions of Windows (chah ching!) using IE (chah ching!) and probably tied into passport and MSN (chah ching, chah ching!). Hell, it might even tie into the XBox (chah ching!) and MS embedded devices (chah ching!). Being a monopoly has its advantages.
Are you sure this person is not buying the items from the store as a "closeout" or as returns in bulk? Some stores like member warehouse clubs, do not mess around with a few items that are left on the shelf and do not discount the items to the general customers. They sale it by the palette to people who specialize in closeout material. In fact, I know of one such brick and mortor that deals exclusively with merchandise from one such warehouse club, their store brand stuff and all and he is making a good living doing it. Based on the limited information you specified, I can see an instance where he/she MIGHT be legit.
There is a big difference between stealing real tangible property and illegally using intellectual property (copyrights, patented, and trademarked items). You can not directly compare the two, they are completely 100% different in every way. One is a physical thing, the other only exists because of a series of laws. Although it can be misused (as defined by existing laws), it is impossible to steal intellectual property.
Regardless of anyones opinion on valid uses of P2P, what is considered a copyright violation, your attitude toward the RIAA and entertainment industry in general, fair use and whatever thoughts you may have on the subject, the point is..
How can the RIAA justify sueing someone based on a list of file names when everyone already knows bogus files are out there and the RIAA will potentially be adding some themselves. The RIAA's evidence of an IP address and a list file names is not going to stand up in a real court.
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there is no consumer equipment that can make a digital copy from SACD source.
For SACD to become "popular", it will require a decent and cheap supply of hardware to play the format (car stereo, portable, home units, computers etc). Part of that will undoubtedly be hardware that could create a digital copy (either out of the box or modified in some manner). Back in the day, there was no consumer equipment that could rip the data off of or write to blank cd's either.
Rinse, lather, repeat with a new format a few years later.
Many vehicles out there have the same exact engine and drivetrain, but have timing and whatnot adjusted via computer, one to give better fuel consumption, the other to givemore power.. and the manufactuere advertises one as 120HP engine, and one as 150HP. Same, exact, engine.
I'm sure this may happen but it is not common as you think. There is almost always different engine components. Speaking of the 90's Fords, many had the V8 5.0l and 4.6l. Almost the same short block (example of a short block) but very different induction, ignition, and exhaust systems. I'm sure for every company that only changes the "tuning" to get more horsepower from an existing engine, there are 30 others that have actually changed multiple engine components.
A good example of some drastic changes that can be had with tuning alone, check out some of the mods available for the truck diesel engines offered by the big three. These mods can achieve almost 75% more torque with nothing but electonics and exhaust temperature monitoring. The key is really the monitoring part!! You can wipe out an engine that noramlly lasts 100's of thousands of miles in minutes. These mods are NOT something the factory is going to put on themselves and sell to you.
Getting off topic but I've collected several GB's of videos of random racing, playing, and off the wall car and motorcycle stuff from KaZaa over the last few years. I could search around the web and ftp sites for it but P2P makes it easy to find and easy to get. Say what you want about P2P but there are legal uses.
company which poses no threat to Microsoft, and in fact builds it business on Microsoft products (Windows) claims they have targeted them.
Opera is cross platform and their business is far more then just Windows. IE and Opera compete on the embedded level also which MS does not currently have a monopoly on and can not just make them go away. This is more then Opera running on Windows not working on MSN by chance.
I just connected to 2 different shell providers I have on port 25 from my Comcast home connection and it worked fine. Maybe the blocking rule has not made it through their entire network yet.
They do not appear to have them now but I bought two of them last Xmas (12/2003). One with Lycoris and one with Lindows, $199 each for a total for $428 for both shipped to my house. A co worker bought one about 3 months ago also.
;)) and are used every day as my kids primary computers.
Both are as you described above but with a 30GB Maxtor HD and an LG 52x cdrom and some cheap speakers a KB and mouse. I added 256 more memory that I had laying around and changed to Mandrake 9.2 (after I updated the cdrom firmware
Cases have gone the other way too so this is not a cut and dry area..
2 Live Crew vs. Roy Orbison determined that sampling in certain instances WAS legal (here and here) and not infringing. Of course 2 Live Crew had other legal problems but at least this one went in there favor.
I know your $10-15 mentioned was only an example but grocery shopping for very specific items is a lot of work. You are talking at least two hours from starting with the cart until you are at their house, add the time to process orders, get back to the grocery store blah blah. If the grocery store manages the process, they can supply the car painted with their advertisments, push other products and services, use existing employees to load up the carts etc.. Imagine a third party delivering pizza hut pizza for $1-2. It would not be profitable unless you value add something else.
It is a good idea but a grocery store will always have an economic advantage to any third party for this service.
And I know a lot of people just like me. My question is, why do these things still exist? Clearly, there must be some level of success amongst these companies, or else they wouldn't exist.
The spammers, scammers, and telemarketing firms still exist in some form because they are selling their service from two sides, the potential end consumer and the business that has something to sell.
There is no shortage of people wanting to sell something and no shortage of middlemen willing to put out the word to the people via the phone and mass email. The spammer changes names, companies, and sources and the seller realizes they got burned by a crappy click thru or response. Rinse lather and repeat next week with a different seller and a different spammer or telemarketing firm. Other then well established well known sellers using telemarketing, I doubt there are many long term relationships in the business of mass marketing. I can not name a single well known business that has sent UCE or flooded usenet using questionable practices to bypass filters. I know of some that tried various forms of spyware though.
And exactly how would a mailing list you are specifically paying to recieve be considered SPAM?
Your computer with an internet connection with a microphone and speaker is doing the same thing a phone is doing no matter how you look at it. It allows you to have two way communication using your voice with someone else. Do you suggest we tax, the computer, the microphone, or the speakers when you use the computer in this manner?
I already pay taxes on my internet connection as does anyone else with a cable modem or DSL. Just because I decide to use voice converted to data over that internet connection does not mean I should now pay more taxes. Is an email tax next? A tax should not automatically apply because the "market" is similar.
Comcast does. I have to use my comcast username and password to send mail via their SMTP server from outside their IP space, I do not remember if auth is required within their ip space or not.
For Sprint dial *4
A call to this number used to use minutes from your plan but recent post on a non Sprint Sprintpcs news board indicates that is not the case anymore and it is a free call.
I know saying the FCC allows this makes it all sound good but think about that concept big picture. What gives the FCC the right and or power to allow my cellular phone provider to modify the terms of my contract I have with that cellular provider? You can tell this story 100 different ways but bottom line, that is exactly what is happening here. I am paying MORE per month then my original contract states and it is not because of a federal or local tax, that money goes directly to the carrier with little to no oversight on what they can charge and for how long. The cost of doing business is exactly that. A contract is exactly that. The cellular providers WANT long contracts to tie you into the service but also want the ability to raise rates after that contract is signed but masking it as an add on "fee" to cover costs. Here is an idea for them. If they want the ability to adjust the fees based on the cost of doing business, then do not have such long contracts. What if my county raises the taxes they want for each cellular phone, can I deduct that exact amount I pay my cell carrier every month as a "cost of owning a cell phone"? If the government raises the minimum wage and now all CSR's at the cellular company make 25 cents more an hour, would they be allowed to add a few bucks to you bill as a federal minimum wage increase fee? Hell no.
Opps. My previous reply was supposed to go to the parent of your post, not your post.
That is not his point.
If a business does something questionable or illegal to gain more customers or get a sale, they are fined. The fine lets them know they are responsible for their actions and to keep them from doing it again. In thoery, they would have to raise their prices now to pay for the fine and still make money or suck up the loss so they can continue on. MS does NOT have any real competition. They consider overall market share across a wide range of products a valuble asset and can adjust prices on a single item based on the overall use of their products with little fallout. I see it as MS is playing a game on many fronts where it is cheaper to take a chance at something questionable and potentially pay the fine if caught and found quilty then to play it conservative and not do it in the first place. Basically, the fines and punishments are not offsetting the damage caused by the questionable business practice and they know it. Only a monopoly can do that.
I have well water you insensitive clod!!
Of course my supply has to come from somewhere but I'd assume the public supply would be tainted and noticed loooong before anything reached my own private well. I occasionally get some sand and grit but I'll take that over a blistering agent any day.
You would need some expertise to get something like that going. I'm sure some ex-Enron executives could help.
I'd like to hear more about how you decided on -q 6 for Oggs, I'm an audiophile
Although input from others is a great start, if you are truely looking for something to encode with that you would be happy listening too, it would save you time and hassles in the long run testing it yourself with your own ears on equipment you are familiar with.
I have a Ford Aspire I paid $3000 for that now has over 100K miles. I get roughly 38-45 MPG out of the 1.3L 5 speed engine. It depends on when and how I drive, in the winter it is slightly lower and above 70-75 it drops quickly. It is not fast but it gets me from point A to point B cheaply.
MS probably does not have to make money selling music from the store itself. They will license the technology to the player makers and encoding places (chah ching!), ensure the decoding can only happen on recent versions of Windows (chah ching!) using IE (chah ching!) and probably tied into passport and MSN (chah ching, chah ching!). Hell, it might even tie into the XBox (chah ching!) and MS embedded devices (chah ching!).
Being a monopoly has its advantages.
Are you sure this person is not buying the items from the store as a "closeout" or as returns in bulk? Some stores like member warehouse clubs, do not mess around with a few items that are left on the shelf and do not discount the items to the general customers. They sale it by the palette to people who specialize in closeout material. In fact, I know of one such brick and mortor that deals exclusively with merchandise from one such warehouse club, their store brand stuff and all and he is making a good living doing it.
Based on the limited information you specified, I can see an instance where he/she MIGHT be legit.
Next comes the big scam. You heard it here first.
Dude, this already has happened.
Google will turns up many problems with Power Sellers over the years and quite a few exactly as you describe.
If I steal a car
There is a big difference between stealing real tangible property and illegally using intellectual property (copyrights, patented, and trademarked items). You can not directly compare the two, they are completely 100% different in every way. One is a physical thing, the other only exists because of a series of laws. Although it can be misused (as defined by existing laws), it is impossible to steal intellectual property.
Regardless of anyones opinion on valid uses of P2P, what is considered a copyright violation, your attitude toward the RIAA and entertainment industry in general, fair use and whatever thoughts you may have on the subject, the point is..
How can the RIAA justify sueing someone based on a list of file names when everyone already knows bogus files are out there and the RIAA will potentially be adding some themselves. The RIAA's evidence of an IP address and a list file names is not going to stand up in a real court.