Damn it, find a local bookstore that has it or can get it! I have a great one that can order any book I want, and the price is good, and it's about as quick as one of these big nasty companies. If you'll spend months and months learning Linux, what's a few hours to find a good bookstore?
Well, a wrapper around objects is one thing. Using objects can be great (I use COM objects all of the time), but using strict OOP for something as simple as, say, a web-based shopping cart is entirely too much overhead and complexity. On large volume sites, generally the extra code and the object creation/destruction is enough to drag down the performance of the whole app. OOP purists don't like it, but basic server-side scripting with includes, stored procs, and embedded HTML works very, very well.
I don't know how massive of a site you run, but check these folks out. [linuxwebhost.com] I've been with them a few years now, and have been nothing but happy. YMMV, of course.
They're insanely expensive. There's no reason to pay a dime more than $1/gig of transfer these days. If you shop, you can get as low as $0.50/gig. These guys are several dollars a gig.
OOP and server-side web site scripting is generally a bad idea. I've never seen an application in which it scales well, or is remotely possible to maintain. In fact, I was with one small company where one blowhard (much like yourself) convinced them to do the whole website with OOP. Well, the website was behind schedule and over budget enough that the company folded. So much for OOP.
Did you ever think abuot a LOCAL bookstore... you know, one that's NOT owned by giant international conglomerates? I just LOVE hearing from Open Source advocates who buy all of their Open Source books from an oligopy. It's so fucking ironic, I want to cry.
So it wasn't that MS' dominance was ever 'beaten', its just that they cannot beat the dominant methodology for web servers, which is Open Source.
That's a hell of a leap in logic there. Unless you're some kind of super market analyst, complete with surveys, research, etc., I think about all you can say is that more people use Apache now and in the past than those who use IIS. There's not necessarily any connection between IIS/Apache and OSS/non-OSS..
Rebuild IIS FTP from scratch and add-in some configability. (You can't even ban IP's with the current one!)
So then, what's this thing that I'm looking at inside the IIS MMC... FTP site, properties, directory security, "By default all computers will be granted access except those with IP..." I'm really confused. If this isn't banning IP's, what is it exactly? -sigh-... the amount of FUD on/. really is amazing.
Why should I spend time dicking with computers when I can pop a CD into my PS2, and spend the time I would have wasted "learnign about computers" getting laid or doing something, ANYTHING other than playing with some dumb computer.
I have to agree. The parent poster apparently doesn't associate much with non-geeks. The TIVO is still very unknown to the general public. What little marketing there has been hasn't been effective at all. I've even tried mentioning it to people, and they have no clue as to what I'm talking about.
Exactly. If you don't have cable, you *have* to buy it. Same thing with DSL. My wife and I each have cell phones. We don't want a land line that's full of telemarketers. Right now, we have a land line *only* for dialup. There's not an actual phone in the house. If we wanted DSL, there'd be no need for actual voice service on the phone line, but the phone company says we'd *have* to buy it. That's bullshit.
Heavy dialup users realize that with DSL/cable at $30/month, and dialup at $20/month, they're better off with broadband. Infrequent dialup users are realizing that with competing dialup at $10/month, they're better off with $10/month dialup than the $22/month offering.
Nope. I'm a very heavy dialup user, but I'm not better off with broadband. Cable modem requires me to get basic cable service, which I don't have or want. So in actuality, it's closer to $50-70/month. DSL requires me to get a land line, which makes DSL $50-70/month. If this plan offered any real value (speed up my FTP's? my Terminal Services connections?), I'd be all over it. As is, it's not really helpful, since it only speeds up web pages.
It's just web! Hell, web access isn't a big deal over 56K. It's other things, like FTP and Terminal Services, and proprietary stuff (like Kazaa). This is 100% useless to me. I'll stick with my 56K, thank you.
I say, use what works. If I needed to run a server, I would love to pick this book up, but unfortunatly i'm capped by my cable company making any atempt to frivolous becuase I know Win2k can handle a pittly 32k upstream. I've run ftp's and small multiplayer servers off it until people just can't play anymore, and linux is not going to help that a bit.
Actually, W2K can handle at *least* a saturated T1. We'll see soon how much more it can handle:)
Jesus, that was a depressing post. It reminded me what it was like to work. Running your own business is tough, and today's been a shitty day, but good god, it's so much better than a fucking cube job where you have to worry about what you wear, what say, what you browse, and even what you fucking ingest. Mother of god, if I went back to something like that, I'd shoot myself in the fucking head. A bland, lame beer at TGIF ever month? Whoop-de-fucking-do. Is that what passes for "fun" after one has been lobotimized?
Business 2.0 is a half assed tech magazine that pretend to be some kind of business magazine. In reality, it was born in the dot com bullshit boom, and somehow they've managed to survive as others around them are crumpling. Their writing is bad, their stories are often paid for, and I expect that this story is simply optimistic, because without tech workers, their magazine is bust.
You've either got more balls, or less real world experience than me. I'm not even *thinking* about using MySQL until all of these new "features" have been tested for at least a year or so. My databases are the kinds of things I play around with.
It's not the holes, it's the policy. IIS runs as LocalSystem by default.
So what? You can run IIS under any user. Also, NTFS has very granular file level permissions. It's no less secure than Apache. Default settings do not have a whole hell of a lot of bearing on the quality of an app in my book. That's why they're settings... they can be changed.
That's such a crock of inflammatory, ill-informed bullshit, I don't know where to start. Dumping IIS because of a few security holes is really fucking stupid for a ton of reasons that I don't even have time to go into.
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OSS is taking over the world, blah, blah, blah. Talk about beating a dead horse. Does every fucking article anywhere on the planet that ever mentions OSS HAVE to be posted on OSS? I'm really, really tired of reading all of these "OSS is winning" bullshit articles. Just put anything OSS related in an article group so I can block it.
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Damn it, find a local bookstore that has it or can get it! I have a great one that can order any book I want, and the price is good, and it's about as quick as one of these big nasty companies. If you'll spend months and months learning Linux, what's a few hours to find a good bookstore?
Well, a wrapper around objects is one thing. Using objects can be great (I use COM objects all of the time), but using strict OOP for something as simple as, say, a web-based shopping cart is entirely too much overhead and complexity. On large volume sites, generally the extra code and the object creation/destruction is enough to drag down the performance of the whole app. OOP purists don't like it, but basic server-side scripting with includes, stored procs, and embedded HTML works very, very well.
I don't know how massive of a site you run, but check these folks out. [linuxwebhost.com] I've been with them a few years now, and have been nothing but happy. YMMV, of course.
They're insanely expensive. There's no reason to pay a dime more than $1/gig of transfer these days. If you shop, you can get as low as $0.50/gig. These guys are several dollars a gig.
OOP and server-side web site scripting is generally a bad idea. I've never seen an application in which it scales well, or is remotely possible to maintain. In fact, I was with one small company where one blowhard (much like yourself) convinced them to do the whole website with OOP. Well, the website was behind schedule and over budget enough that the company folded. So much for OOP.
Did you ever think abuot a LOCAL bookstore... you know, one that's NOT owned by giant international conglomerates? I just LOVE hearing from Open Source advocates who buy all of their Open Source books from an oligopy. It's so fucking ironic, I want to cry.
So it wasn't that MS' dominance was ever 'beaten', its just that they cannot beat the dominant methodology for web servers, which is Open Source.
That's a hell of a leap in logic there. Unless you're some kind of super market analyst, complete with surveys, research, etc., I think about all you can say is that more people use Apache now and in the past than those who use IIS. There's not necessarily any connection between IIS/Apache and OSS/non-OSS..
Rebuild IIS FTP from scratch and add-in some configability. (You can't even ban IP's with the current one!)
/. really is amazing.
So then, what's this thing that I'm looking at inside the IIS MMC... FTP site, properties, directory security, "By default all computers will be granted access except those with IP..." I'm really confused. If this isn't banning IP's, what is it exactly? -sigh-... the amount of FUD on
Why should I spend time dicking with computers when I can pop a CD into my PS2, and spend the time I would have wasted "learnign about computers" getting laid or doing something, ANYTHING other than playing with some dumb computer.
I have to agree. The parent poster apparently doesn't associate much with non-geeks. The TIVO is still very unknown to the general public. What little marketing there has been hasn't been effective at all. I've even tried mentioning it to people, and they have no clue as to what I'm talking about.
No! Don't run Windows! Just commit 1/3 of your short life to learning esoteric, useless commands in order to play a game! That's muuuuch smarter.
Exactly. If you don't have cable, you *have* to buy it.
Same thing with DSL. My wife and I each have cell phones. We don't want a land line that's full of telemarketers. Right now, we have a land line *only* for dialup. There's not an actual phone in the house. If we wanted DSL, there'd be no need for actual voice service on the phone line, but the phone company says we'd *have* to buy it. That's bullshit.
Heavy dialup users realize that with DSL/cable at $30/month, and dialup at $20/month, they're better off with broadband. Infrequent dialup users are realizing that with competing dialup at $10/month, they're better off with $10/month dialup than the $22/month offering.
Nope. I'm a very heavy dialup user, but I'm not better off with broadband. Cable modem requires me to get basic cable service, which I don't have or want. So in actuality, it's closer to $50-70/month. DSL requires me to get a land line, which makes DSL $50-70/month. If this plan offered any real value (speed up my FTP's? my Terminal Services connections?), I'd be all over it. As is, it's not really helpful, since it only speeds up web pages.
It's just web! Hell, web access isn't a big deal over 56K. It's other things, like FTP and Terminal Services, and proprietary stuff (like Kazaa). This is 100% useless to me. I'll stick with my 56K, thank you.
I say, use what works. If I needed to run a server, I would love to pick this book up, but unfortunatly i'm capped by my cable company making any atempt to frivolous becuase I know Win2k can handle a pittly 32k upstream. I've run ftp's and small multiplayer servers off it until people just can't play anymore, and linux is not going to help that a bit.
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Actually, W2K can handle at *least* a saturated T1. We'll see soon how much more it can handle
Jesus, that was a depressing post. It reminded me what it was like to work. Running your own business is tough, and today's been a shitty day, but good god, it's so much better than a fucking cube job where you have to worry about what you wear, what say, what you browse, and even what you fucking ingest. Mother of god, if I went back to something like that, I'd shoot myself in the fucking head. A bland, lame beer at TGIF ever month? Whoop-de-fucking-do. Is that what passes for "fun" after one has been lobotimized?
Business 2.0 is a half assed tech magazine that pretend to be some kind of business magazine. In reality, it was born in the dot com bullshit boom, and somehow they've managed to survive as others around them are crumpling. Their writing is bad, their stories are often paid for, and I expect that this story is simply optimistic, because without tech workers, their magazine is bust.
I doubt that a lot of servers are going to be effected by this, especially considering that this comes from JScript from a server or HTML email.
You've either got more balls, or less real world experience than me. I'm not even *thinking* about using MySQL until all of these new "features" have been tested for at least a year or so. My databases are the kinds of things I play around with.
Just change the user the service runs under.
It's not the holes, it's the policy. IIS runs as LocalSystem by default.
So what? You can run IIS under any user. Also, NTFS has very granular file level permissions. It's no less secure than Apache. Default settings do not have a whole hell of a lot of bearing on the quality of an app in my book. That's why they're settings... they can be changed.
That's such a crock of inflammatory, ill-informed bullshit, I don't know where to start. Dumping IIS because of a few security holes is really fucking stupid for a ton of reasons that I don't even have time to go into.
OSS is taking over the world, blah, blah, blah. Talk about beating a dead horse. Does every fucking article anywhere on the planet that ever mentions OSS HAVE to be posted on OSS? I'm really, really tired of reading all of these "OSS is winning" bullshit articles. Just put anything OSS related in an article group so I can block it.
Do you mean that fewer than 0.1% of your external referrers are from Slashdot?
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Yup.
Where do you get most of your traffic?
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All I can say is it's not spam or anything nasty like that.
I don't exactly advertise *heavily* on Slashdot. I just put it in my sig. I get a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction (less than 0.1%) of my traffic from /.
At that point, you just have to decide which is more valuable: your beliefs or your jobs (hint: your beliefs are).
You beliefs are only more important if you are wealthy enough to be able to be jobless. Only wealthy people can afford to be idealistic.