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Improving Company Morale?

Undaar asks: "I work as a developer for a web development company. We were pretty hard hit (as were many companies that do what we do) by the "economic down-turn". The company went from over 500 people to under 200 in under two years. It's more stable now, but people are consistently laid-off. Consequently people feel like they always have to look over their shoulder to avoid getting fired. Most lunches are spent complaining about lack of enjoyment/challenge from the job and the fact that upper-management seems not to understand what we do. Employers: what have you done to improve employee morale in your company? As an employee, what can I do to improve the morale in the people I work with? How can I make my work environment more enjoyable? What kind of constructive suggestions can I take to management so that they can help improve the situation?"

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  1. Morale? by electro_mike · · Score: 1, Funny

    Heck, The free lunchs I get are perfect for my morale.. yummm.. (donair on friday)

    1. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most lunches are spent complaining about lack of enjoyment/challenge from the job and the fact that upper-management seems not to understand what we do.

      Welcome to every company everywhere.

    2. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hell, moral at our company is as low as it goes. I thought it couldn't get worse, then they said they were cancelling the biscuit supply! (major cost saving, apparently). Never mind saving money by sacking all our crappy IT managers who have no technical knowledge and keep buying new servers for every 3rd party app we get (on the 3rd party company advice - so their margins go up).

      Free meals? Whe had a christmas meal and our boss insisted we have 7 pizzas between 8 of us (I wish I were kidding!!).

      I improve my moral by bitching about them *and* doing everything I can to move! My boss tried to improve my moral by asking if I could work this Sunday!

      Sorry, had to get that off my chest...I *do* feel better now.

    3. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Robbie? Dwayne? Is that you? If so, please report to the IT Director for Summary Firing.

    4. Re:Morale? by zootread · · Score: 2, Funny

      Most lunches are spent complaining about lack of enjoyment/challenge from the job and the fact that upper-management seems not to understand what we do.

      Welcome to every company everywhere.


      Ummm.. No. I spend my lunch eating.

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    5. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet everyone else spends lunch talking about what condescending pretentious cocksucker you are. You're fired.

    6. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must all be a bunch of fat bastards if you complain about splitting 7 pizzas between 8 people.

      8 slices per pie * 7 pies = 56 slices
      7 slices per person

      You really are a pathetic fat bastard!

    7. Re:Morale? by zootread · · Score: 1

      I bet everyone else spends lunch talking about what condescending pretentious cocksucker you are. You're fired.

      Ummm... No. They spend their lunch talking about how sexy I am. Yes, I'm riding through life on my good looks.

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    8. Re:Morale? by mbogosian · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Welcome to every company everywhere.

      Actually, that's not entirely true. To the original poster's questions:

      Employers: what have you done to improve employee morale in your company? As an employee, what can I do to improve the morale in the people I work with? How can I make my work environment more enjoyable? What kind of constructive suggestions can I take to management so that they can help improve the situation?

      Here's what I've learned in my brief time spent on this earth about management and leadership. I've learned most of what I know from real-world inferences derived from what not to do. However, I have read a fair amount of leadership, management and sales literature (it should probably be said that I'm a software engineer by training/trade). I've found it boils down to a few things along one main theme:

      1. The more closely the dynamic of company (and in turn, each of it's sub groups) resembles that really fun softball/basketball/water polo/lacrosse team you played on before high school (before sports got really competitive) or that club team you played on in college, the better and more productive it will be. Companies that have a strong family dynamic will always be more productive than those that don't. People want to belong, but they have to have something to want to belong to. The less the company acts like a high school and the more it acts like a volunteer community center the more vested everyone will be in making sure things go well.
      2. Ownership by every member of the company is essential. I've learned that ownership does not mean stock options. Ownership means getting to make decisions, realizing the importance of those decisions and getting to make more decisions, even when mistakes are made. On a side note, if everyone feels ownership, the person most critical of the mistake will be the person who made it. Don't fuck with this dynamic or try to compete with it or your will harbor resentment.
      3. There is no "by the numbers". Managers who stress numerical measurements as the sole method for advancement, and process and documentation as the sole way to solve problems are shitty managers. I'm not saying process (and to a very minimal extent documentation) and measurements are not tools which can be effectively applied, I'm saying that managers should be somewhat protective and nurturing mothers first and save the accounting for the accountants.
      4. People are your most important asset, so treat them like it, damn it. Processes, products, service offerings, any kind of innovation/change in business practice or offerings can be copied (most often at a fraction of the cost incurred by the initial innovator). Your people are what allow you to maneuver more quickly than the competition. If you've got good people and good teams, and you're still tempted to down-size or (a personal favorite) "right"-size, you're doing something wrong. Not only will it cost you a buttload to get rid of them, you will have just sold your company (and your long-term shareholders/investors) down the tubes. This is a good way to demonstrate you don't give a flying fuck about the people "beneath" you.

      You've probably already spotted the theme here: people, people and people. Unfortunately, if upper management doesn't buy into this, you're fucked. There's very little you can do (unless you're in a leadership position yourself) to combat this.The best you can hope for is to be laid off so you can collect unemployment while you search for a new job. Think of it as bozo cancer which has metastasized. If you are in a position of leadership, here's some things you can do:

      1. Make sure everyone in your team gets a sincere compliment (doesn't have to be from you) at least once every couple of weeks (once a week is better). For engineers, compliments that start with, "
    9. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHO, the top irritant and morale buster is the feeling that you are not important in the organization. When we do project estimation we fill things like H/W resources, S/W resources and Human Resources... as if you are a replaceable entity like a HDD or new version of OS. The fact is no .. you're not replaceable. The organization can get someone who does your *job* and that's it. I, as a person can never be replaced by anyone else. If the management understands this and stops treating people like any other resource... then you won't have to ask this question again :)

    10. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      8 slices per pie * 7 pies = 56 slices

      Uh, dude. He's Brittish. Brittish pies use the metric system!

    11. Re:Morale? by iustin · · Score: 1

      Very well put! Have you write a book or something? I'd like to read'it!

    12. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The free lunch is a tactic to get your to work through lunch at the employer's benefit. Bet you can not leave the office and enjoy that free lunch.

      Spying on employees has gotten out of control also. IMHO most people who spy on employees can not be trusted and tend to be very manipulative in nature.

      Clock watching bosses are the worst. Even if you work faster than most and produce quality work, they base progress on hours not results.

    13. Re:Morale? by bburns · · Score: 1

      The more closely the dynamic of company (and in turn, each of it's sub groups) resembles that really fun softball/basketball/water polo/lacrosse team you played on before high school (before sports got really competitive) or that club team you played on in college, the better and more productive it will be.

      This is so true. I left my last development job a couple of times to go back to school, but I kept returning because of the team of people who worked there. We did not just develop our team dynamic by working together but also because of "beer Friday." Every other Friday, the boss would bring in beers, stop work around 4:30pm or so, and we would hang out for a few hours with a couple of cold ones.

      At the end of last year, higher-ups decided to close our division, lay off half the staff, and relocate the other half from the Southwest US to the East Coast. The only people who stayed with the company wanted to live on the East Coast. Everyone else left since the team was going to be disassembled, and the company lost the development team.

      Ownership by every member of the company is essential.

      This is also true, and it sounds a lot like Extreme Programming's "common code ownership." I've been on projects where I have been handed small tasks bit-by-bit, and I've been on projects where I have been handed larger tasks with more authority. I have been much more productive on the latter, since I did not have to verify every detail with a manager. However, larger tasks require consistently producing high-quality code, which I have to verify to myself.

    14. Re:Morale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must all be a bunch of fat bastards if you complain about splitting 7 pizzas between 8 people.

      8 slices per pie * 7 pies = 56 slices
      7 slices per person

      You really are a pathetic fat bastard!


      Actually, it's 28 slices each. If it were among 8 people, then you'd be right. But he said between 8 people, so he must be counting himself as more than one person.. possibly 4, if the other guys is equally as fat as he. Otherwise, maybe it's just him and some skinny tech support guy ending up having 55 and 1 respectively.

      Just a thought.

    15. Re:Morale? by mbogosian · · Score: 1

      Very well put! Have you write a book or something? I'd like to read'it!

      Thanks! I haven't yet, but I'll keep everyone posted.... ;)

  2. Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productivity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People that are happy at work tend to be better workers, so letting them use the internet and phone for some personal business during work can be a "good thing." That's not to say they should be allowed to surf for porn all day, but looking a few websites outside of business during 9-5 can help.

    Also, be flexible with work hours. Not everyone needs to work the same 9-5. Let departments figure out their own policy and be flexible with workers.

  3. Best way to improve morale by corbettw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whores. Lots and lots of whores.

    And don't be stingy with the cocaine, either.

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    1. Re:Best way to improve morale by Bake · · Score: 5, Funny

      But I thought companies already had Sales and Marketting?

    2. Re:Best way to improve morale by Specialist2k · · Score: 5, Funny
      Whores. Lots and lots of whores.

      I am... ehm... uncertain whether this will actually improve productivity ;-)

    3. Re:Best way to improve morale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      > I am... ehm... uncertain whether this will actually improve productivity ;-)

      Depends on what kind of "productivity" you mean...although there are ways of stopping "that" kind.

      But then...it might get people to work on time, even early, and maybe to stay late. Very late.

    4. Re:Best way to improve morale by Randolpho · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Although my armor and weapons are badly in need of repair, I spend my entire reward on ale and whores."

      -- Skull, PVP

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    5. Re:Best way to improve morale by ckedge · · Score: 5, Funny

      They screw the customers, not the employees.

    6. Re:Best way to improve morale by objekt404 · · Score: 1

      Our employee solution was to take the "You don't pay me when I'm off the clock" idea. Frequent runs to the local bar for some pitchers & pool.

      It may not have done much it increase productivity (from a managment standpoint; as creatives it helped tons!), but we were willing to stay almost until dawn once a week (& until after 8 most other nights) and turnover in the creative dept decreased.

      Seeing this, we even managed to get raises (by doing what would get you fired normally!)

      Never underestimate the power of beer! It wasn't free, but who cares.

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    7. Re:Best way to improve morale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whores. Lots and lots of whores.

      I am... ehm... uncertain whether this will actually improve productivity ;-)


      it might not improve productivity, but it'll definitely improve reproductivity

    8. Re:Best way to improve morale by Fesh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, that's HR's job.

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    9. Re:Best way to improve morale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah right, and then the day after they cant do anything because they're in the down phase

      i tell you

      give em WHORES and WEED

      and see them DO IT ALL

    10. Re:Best way to improve morale by imaniack · · Score: 2, Funny

      HR = hand release????

    11. Re:Best way to improve morale by linzeal · · Score: 1
      You have never seen a geek work balls to the wall until he is getting some, they stop smoking, go exercise, get organized, or they eventually lose the chick. Chicks are good for geeks, and vice versa.

      I mean its cool to have a bunch of friends, but once you got a friend with boobs its golden.

    12. Re:Best way to improve morale by gbaldwin2 · · Score: 1

      We arn't talking about productivity, we are taling about morale.

    13. Re:Best way to improve morale by Rigor+Morty · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You might be surprized. I had friends that worked at a certain car dealership in Columbus, Ohio, where management would take the top monthly saleman out for a "winner dinner", consisting of a meal at their favorite eatery, with the hooker of his choice.

      When those boys hit the doors in the morning, they were ready to sell some cars.

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    14. Re:Best way to improve morale by crazyphilman · · Score: 1

      But... The marketing staff generally LOWER morale. How are more of them going to help?

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    15. Re:Best way to improve morale by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 1
      They screw the customers, not the employees.
      And don't forget about the engineers!

      Truth be told though, I think my company's sales force is smarter than a roomful of Stephen Hawkings. They never cease to amaze me with their anticausal wizardry: selling and delivering features to customers months before they have even been spec'ed let alone coded!

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    16. Re:Best way to improve morale by tgburrin · · Score: 1

      Ahh, you haven't yet had the experience of sales selling a product that doesn't exist yet. Trust me, that is a problem that can screw employees.

  4. Are you kidding? by ddstreet · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The software (and hardware) market is full of so many highly-qualified people, most with years of experience, that employers have little to no incentive to care whether their current employees are happy or not. If they're not, they can either leave or get fired, and it will be easy to replace them, probably with someone more qualified and/or with more experience, who will work for as much or maybe less money.

    It's gonna be like this, in our job market at least, for a while. Hopefully not too long...!

    1. Re:Are you kidding? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      that employers have little to no incentive to care whether their current employees are happy or not. If they're not, they can either leave or get fired, and it will be easy to replace them

      Yes, but it still may help productivity if they are a bit happier. Whip-n-row motivational techniques rarely work in the longer run.

    2. Re:Are you kidding? by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If they're not, they can either leave or get fired, and it will be easy to replace them, probably with someone more qualified and/or with more experience, who will work for as much or maybe less money.

      I know there are some bosses who think that way, but it's a bad idea from a couple of aspects.

      First, it takes at least six months to get someone really up to speed in the company, probably a little longer to get them fully effective.

      Second, and more important IMO, there's no entity in business more effective than an honest-to-God *team*. People who know each other, who know how the people around them work and who feel like they owe something to their coworkers. This is a hard thing to pull together, but when you do they can accomplish some really special things. Making employees feel like a commodity is completely counter to this.

      A good manager will understand this; the problem is, simply, there aren't enough "good" mangers out there -- most people who manage are woefully incompetent at actually managing. Beancounters.

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    3. Re:Are you kidding? by n3k5 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The software (and hardware) market is full of so many highly-qualified people [...] If they're not [happy], they can either leave or get fired, and it will be easy to replace them [...]
      Are you kidding? In software development that requires highly qualified people, it is never easy to replace them. It can take months to dive into a new codebase; every day spent on grokking a new project means less constructive work done on it. Sure, you can fire employees all the time and look for cheaper ones, which you treat as lowly development machines that are worth less than the computers they work on. But don't expect them to stay so long that they even get the chance to get any productive work done.
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    4. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The software (and hardware) market is full of so many highly-qualified people, most with years of experience, that employers have little to no incentive to care whether their current employees are happy or not.

      That's a complete and utter myth. The software market is full of loads of utterly incompetent bottom feeders that flowed into the industry during boom time, however there is a MASSIVE lack of actual knowledge or talent. I'd wager that >90% of software developers out there slumber from day to day not really sure what their doing. Greater than half of all software projects are an absolute failure, while of the remaining half most fail to fulfill their mandate.

    5. Re:Are you kidding? by jkabbe · · Score: 1

      I agree with you but this isn't what the bad managers that infest many companies think.

      To quote my ex-manager at EDS:
      "Programmers are a dime a dozen"

    6. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You are absolutely correct. A good team of competent people, who have (at least) some experience, can get almost anything done, and usually at a relatively fast pace.

      Unfortunately, almost all management out there is completely clueless; they use unexperienced people to work on projects, either because they're cheap or to "broaden their skills". The project leader usually is the only one with some experience in whatever they're working on, but they are usually so bogged down with meetings they don't do any actual work. The result is crap, for everything that is produced. Once the workers get experience with whatever they were doing, they are either moved to something else that they have no experience with, or they move to management (where they stop doing actual work). It's a vicious cycle... all new development is utter garbage, and management simply refuses to improve it at all (it works! Why should we pay you to change it?) even though maintaining it is an absolute nightmare, especially as more and more fixes get tack-hammered on. Eventually someone (or multiple poeple, depending on how bad it is) is stuck with the awful job of maintaining the spaghetti code, and the company winds up spending 10x more money to maintain the crap than if they had fixed it in the first place...

      I guess the essential points that management always fails to understand are:

      • Keep experienced programmers working. When they are promoted, don't put them into management; they are much more valuable (and probably happier) as programmers. Promote (or 'move', programmers are more important and should make more than management) the bad programmers into management, that's probably where they want to be anyway.
      • You need a prototype. I just can't stress this enough. No matter how good you think your design is, the first implementation (if constrained to any deadlines, which they always are) will be bad. It's unavoidable. A prototype, which can be either throw-away or the base for the real product, is just essential. It's funny that hardware people (including management) have known this for years, but software management (and some inexperienced or just inept programmers) won't accept it.
      • Let inexperienced programmers work on the prototypes and/or programs that won't be maintained (for any extended period of time). It's not their fault, but when you're inexperienced you just don't produce good, maintainable code. You have to learn. But learning by writing code that's going to be sold and maintained is a real bad idea, that only management (who doesn't understand how programming works) would think of.
      • Move bad programmers out, probably into management. The last person that anyone wants to work with is a bad programmer.
      • Don't make experienced programmers spend all their time training inexperienced programmers. This is such a waste. Management thinks that somehow magically good programmers will transform inexperienced programmers into a new good programmer. But what happens is the good programmer never gets to do any work, and the inexperienced programmers are the only ones writing your programs.
    7. Re:Are you kidding? by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 1

      So true.. It's a shame, but so true...

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    8. Re:Are you kidding? by Gortbusters.org · · Score: 1

      That's why the only people getting hired are those with those special skills... like those who know SIP (RFC 3261), the best of the best of the best [java] developers, and so on.

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    9. Re:Are you kidding? by BHearsum · · Score: 1

      I'm curious, how do you prototype software? I really have no idea how this can be done....or did you mean a prototype of the interface?

    10. Re:Are you kidding? by Doomdark · · Score: 5, Insightful
      No, no and no. You are assuming that any person can be replaced with anyone about as qualified, and the resulting accomplishments are the same. Further, you assume happines and motivation have nothing to do with productivity, related to motivation, experience and skills (and in rougly that order of importance).

      This may be true for simplest of assembly line jobs, although even there I'd doubt that. But for any developer job (or similar, jobs that need skilled professionals) there's huge differences in productivity.

      My estimation is that difference between minimally adequate (below average but still nominally skilled and/or motivated, that is, able to work to some degree) and average ("normal" skills and motivation) worker is in the order of 3 - 5 times, and between average and excellent further 2 - 3 times. So, roughly speaking, best of employees get as much done as 10 or more "sucky" employees. And that's ignoring the fundamental limitations of "bunch of cheap incompetent idiots" approach, which is that there are some demanding tasks where you just can NOT get things done without skilled, talented, motivated individuals (not all tasks, but some key tasks).

      So, if an employer follows tactics you outlined, here's the likely scenario:

      • By treating employees badly, morale goes down, and productivity suffers significantly, easily to less than half of optimal sustainable productivity, in matter of weeks if not days.
      • By making it known everyone considers everyone to be replaceable, most employees (of any level) start looking for new job. Best ones (that are most productive and skilled) find new job more easily, thus there's significant brain leakage. Below-average people try to hang in there and do not leave involuntarily.
      • Replacing people lost to attrition and lay-offs is costly as well as risky; there's no reliable way to make sure person you hire is as good as you think. Only time will tell. Ones you had you had much better understanding of. So, chances are you won't be hiring better people than you had (assuming originally you very succesful in developing and keeping talent).
      • Training people for specific duties they have takes time (few people get a new job that's _exactly_ like they old one). Even highly skilled professionals take a while to adapt.
      • Newcomers have less reason to be loyal to begin with. Their morale is likely to be neutral, which depending on situation may be better or worse than average employee morale. But in case where it's higher, it _quickly_ lowers to average, as person learns what kind of a rathole job is. In case of existing employees having good morale, it takes longer for morale to raise... but it will happen if things stay good.

      Another big mistake is misunderstanding the role of (monetary) compensation to motivation. Rewards are good, almost independent of size of reward (except of insulting small ones, like those Larry Ellison dolls given as annual bonus). But above and beyond that, money is not much of an incentive to otherwise content people. And for uncontent people, well, it's only temporary relief that soon is forgotten.

      However, the opposite (ie. short-changing employees) does affect morale drastically and quickly. Whereas giving a raise helps a bit in short run, and stabilizes things in long run, salary reduction (or "too low" starting salary) is a quick and effective tool of demoralization. No matter what the situation, that's equivalent to middle finger salute.

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    11. Re:Are you kidding? by MrResistor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The software (and hardware) market is full of so many highly-qualified people, most with years of experience, that employers have little to no incentive to care whether their current employees are happy or not. If they're not, they can either leave or get fired, and it will be easy to replace them, probably with someone more qualified and/or with more experience, who will work for as much or maybe less money.

      This is an extremely stupid, short-sighted view.

      When you lay someone off you lose their training and experience, and no matter how qualified or experienced their replacement is, it will take them time to get up to speed your product. That's exactly how I got my current job, and after 7 months I'm still figuring out previously known problems that never got documented because the guy I replaced had been working on the product for years. With that kind of experience on a single product there's bound to be a lot of things that don't get documented, simply because from that perspective they seem obvious.

      In the real world, skilled workers are not as easily replaced as the MBAs would like to believe.

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    12. Re:Are you kidding? by LibertineR · · Score: 4, Funny

      Give that man a star! Most of you suck.

    13. Re:Are you kidding? by Doomdark · · Score: 2, Insightful
      And actually it's not just "little help", motivated people get much more done, offer good ideas they have, participate, help retain talent and so on. I have worked on both motivated and de-motivated teams (fortunately, currently on a team that's mostly motivated), and I know the difference from employee side.

      On the flip side, de-motivated people are there just to collect their paycheck and sporadically get work done, either to avoid getting fired, or if they would otherwise get too bored.

      Whip-n-row techniques also most likely increase attrition rates a lot, so the only case where they make sense to use is where one wants to get headcount down fast, independent of consequences. In really short-term you may get something done day or two earlier, but cause burn-out for some, and get end product that has lower quality than one produced under more sane leadership.

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    14. Re:Are you kidding? by efflux · · Score: 1

      Let inexperienced programmers work on the prototypes and/or programs that won't be maintained (for any extended period of time). It's not their fault, but when you're inexperienced you just don't produce good, maintainable code. You have to learn. But learning by writing code that's going to be sold and maintained is a real bad idea, that only management (who doesn't understand how programming works) would think of.

      I have to agree here. I was a a job interview with a consulting firm a while back (didn't get the job--but I'm glad I didn't get it), and the interviewer made an offhand comment about how she "couldn't believe that code she wrote was actually being sold to other companies." If that isn't a mark of an inexperienced programmer, I don't know what is. BTW, she also mentioned that she was a project leader in one of their divisions. Egads!

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    15. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If any of you really knew what was going on with companies, you'd know that HR departments spend all of their time and money to come up with ways to keep employees happy. (For all the reasons that people have stated here.) Check out any HR industry magazine, website or trade organization and you will see HR professionals sharing ideas for how to decrease turnover and improve employee retention and satisfaction. It's a never ending job. It's amazing how ungrateful and blind employees are to their company's good intentions.

      The best employees recognize that companies are working in a tough economic environment right now and focus on enjoying the challenge and opportunity of their jobs. Have you all forgotten that just a few short years ago, engineers and IT people were coming out of college and demanding and getting six figure salaries and Z3s for sign on bonuses? Grow up already! Work is about responsibility, learning and growing, improving and contributing. Do all of these and the good things will come.

      ST

    16. Re:Are you kidding? by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1

      EDS...

      Shiver...

      Notice he did not say GOOD programmers,
      there in lies the truth .

      Quality is not an automatic inclusion
      in his mantra, and it is not at alot of
      corporate sweatshops .

      Glad you managed to find a way out of there,
      even if it is unemployment, something better
      will come along .

      I have know several ppl that have worked for
      EDS, they all say the same thing .

      "Sweatshop"

      Cest la Vie

      Peace...
      Ex-MislTech

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    17. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      "Greater than half of all software projects are an absolute failure..."

      I think it is important to point out that this is not some coloquialism. In fact(i.e. substantiated by actual numbers), approximately half of all software projects fail. That means they are cancelled. They never produce anything useable. And yet, it is perfectly possible to have a development team that operates near 100% success. Why the discrepancy? I reckon it's because of those ">90% of software developers" who don't know what they are doing. With the massive layoffs everone is hearing about you would think that they would be the first to go, but I don't think that's the case, and just about everyone I know in the industry don't think so either.

      This is a pretty big fucking problem. If this trend continues, the ratio of knoledgeable people to nitwits is going to dwindle to 0, and the number of failed projects is going to shoot higher than 50%. Managers are going to continue to ship projects over seas; if the project is going to fail anyways, why the hell not?

      So what do we do? Well, if you don't care about the software industry, then get the fuck out. If you do care about the industry then do something to get the people who don't care, and the people who are incompetant, the fuck out. If management doesn't believe that talent has any bearing on developers, if they believe that you can't really do much about having half of your projects fail, if they believe that it isn't possible to produce software that is nearly bug free, if they believe that you can't estimate cost and time for software projects, then get them the fuck out too.

    18. Re:Are you kidding? by kent_eh · · Score: 1

      ...employers have little to no incentive to care whether their current employees are happy or not. If they're not, they can either leave or get fired, and it will be easy to replace them...

      Maybe it's easy to replace the ones who leave, but I don't often see that happening (cost savings dontya know). Those remaining just get a bigger workload (oh, and by the way, overtime is no longer permitted, and the deadline is being moved two weeks sooner...)

      Much of what I have seen in companies that don't give a damn about morale is the best and brightest jump ship, leaving the rest to struggle along.

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    19. Re:Are you kidding? by jkabbe · · Score: 1

      Oh I managed to find better work just around the time as my severance was running out (aside: wasn't it nice to see that Dick Brown got more in severance than he gave to every single laid off employee combined?). I've been alot more fortunate than some of my fellow ex-EDSers. It took some of them 6 - 14 months to find work. And you hit the nail on the head with the word "quality". So many people are incapable of judging quality so they just go for the lowest cost labor and figure that "processes" will somehow make up the difference. The one thing I did learn from my experience at EDS was that if morale is poor because of bungling management there probably isn't much you can do except find a new job. If the managers actually listened to their workers they wouldn't have gotten in that situation in the first place. So making suggestions probably isn't going to get you anywhere except labelled a "trouble maker" who "isn't on board". And then you're out (to hopefully find a good job!).

    20. Re:Are you kidding? by kent_eh · · Score: 2

      Once the workers get experience with whatever they were doing, they are either moved to something else that they have no experience with, or they move to management (where they stop doing actual work). It's a vicious cycle...

      It's called the Peter Principle.
      It's as true today as it was back in 1969 when Dr. Laurence J. Peter first wrote his book as it is today.

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    21. Re:Are you kidding? by len_harms · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the bad programmers into management, that's probably where they want to be anyway

      I have never agreed with moving people into managment that are not TRAINED to do this. Managing things is WAY different than writing code. Writing code you just need to watch the flow of the code. Then if you wrote your code correctly just tweak it once and awhile. Managing people you need to have people skills. You need to know how to handle someone who works hard, who is lazy, who is sick, who is wasting everone elses time, someone who is a bully, someone who is harasing others... You need to know how to do these sorts of things. Last I checked they do not teach that in any comp sci classes.

      Making a 'programmer' a mangager is almost always a bad idea. If he is a bad programmer he probably is not a good manager either. He did not have the motivation to become a decent programmer, which I have always belived is not that hard to do. Also sometimes the reason they are bad programmers is because they simply do not get along with people. Puting them in charge will only make this problem worse. I have witnessed this many times.

      My father used to work for a large insurance company. Before he could even get promoted to be a manager, out of sales, he had to take MANY MANY MANY classes in how to manage people. He then had to prove he could do it. We in the tech industry seem to take almost the exact oposite aproach. We promote people who should never even breathed that pay grade, and then only because they did something cool.

      All your other points I agree with. Just promoting people to get them out of something is usually a bad idea. Its better to put them somewhere where they do no harm, or (i know this is cold) fire them.

    22. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you've got to be kidding. You're not a software developer are you?

    23. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its already at 5 but "mod this one up some more"!

      I rarely save /. posts but THIS one goes in the "I sure wish I had written this!" ref file.

      Concerning the second point "You need a prototype"... Sadly even some managers-of- hardware-geeks are loath to recognize the importance of going though the prototype stage **sigh**.

      The re-education of management is a necessary process, but painful for all concerned.

    24. Re:Are you kidding? by gid-goo · · Score: 1

      Uhhh, I know SIP, H.323, SS7, EIA/TIA 41, IS-136 and IS-95 + plus a shit load of other telecom related acronyms (and I've actually worked with the protocols). Finding a job was a pain in the ass and finally I ended up working on PS2 games. I'd rather be doing telecom but it's a job and I get paid. Hopefully, I'll see fat royalties as well. If anyone out there (especially in Europe) wants a US citizen with mucho experience in telecom (including on site CO troubleshooting) and video games send me a note.

    25. Re:Are you kidding? by Fnkmaster · · Score: 0
      No, don't "move bad programmers into management". You are paritally on target with your other points, probably because you understand how programming and the engineering process in general works (like you said, the hardware guys have understood this for years).


      Management needs to be smart enough to understand how programmers do their work. The idea that people directly managing programmers should be awful programmers with little experience is a wretched idea. And certainly, don't reward bad programmers by promoting them - find a task they add value to in the organization, or get rid of them, period. If they exhibit _talent_ at management (they enjoy mentoring, they have good people skills, they seem organized and disciplined, put together good documentation, and relate well to non-technical people) THEN promote them into management roles. Don't do it to get them out of programming, do it because they add more value (and presumably want to) be managing people.


      Furthermore, you're point about good programmers not being forced to mentor inexperienced programmers is an iffy point. Sometimes it's helpful, to a certain extent, to get a new member of a team up to speed sooner. A good programmer, of course, doesn't really need much mentoring, they can pick up code, read it, and get themselves up to speed (and these are the people you REALLY want on your team). But most average programmers need help, especially when they are coming in to a project already underway or a large existing codebase. I agree wholeheartedly that if your best programmers spend all their time mentoring, they spend none of their time programming which is very bad. This is why ideally you won't try to grow a team with too many inexperienced people mid-project - never more than 1 inexperienced person for each 2 experienced folks at a time, until that inexperienced person has been brought up to speed (i.e. requires little to no "active mentoring" to work effectively on the tasks deemed to be on target for their programming skills).


      Anyway, these are some of my experiences and rules of thumb. Take em or leave em.

    26. Re:Are you kidding? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm curious, how do you prototype software?

      It's simple, really:

      • Gather some requirements - find out what the people want.
      • Build a basic design. From this, you should get some interaction diagrams, state diagrams, and the general functionality of the software, including what's fast, slow, and what's easy to add.
      • From this, you build a paper prototype. take it to the original customers and walk them through it. Go to step 1 until the design closely resembles what they customer wants.
      • This last step is dependent on available resources. Don't break the bank searching for perfection, but don't just throw crap against the wall until something sticks.
      • Build a functioning prototype - it should be implemented quickly and reflect the design. Only implement fully the areas that need to be modelled.
      • Take this to the customer. Modify requirements and design. This should be minor tweaking.
      • Build the software. The overall structure of the code should be clear before you begin, and detailed requirements should be done. This is mainly building code and testing it, both at a fine level and in its interaction.
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    27. Re:Are you kidding? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      I was a a job interview with a consulting firm a while back (didn't get the job--but I'm glad I didn't get it), and the interviewer made an offhand comment about how she "couldn't believe that code she wrote was actually being sold to other companies."

      Of course, it could be that she wasn't given enough time, or that some other requirements got in the way of her doing a good job. We all have code we aren't proud of.

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      "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
    28. Re:Are you kidding? by BeerSlurpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This isnt funny, but keep modding it up.

      The software market is completely glutted with incompetant morons who are suitable for use as little more than semi-computer-literate go-fers. These are the guys are are having their lunch stolen by the indians and russians who can program as good or likely better for 10x less. A lot of them are finally being forced to leave the software field altogether because they dont have the enthusiasm to do it when it isnt easy money.

      In case you werent aware of this, the current paradigm for making software in this country is to have maybe 3-4 architect/senior developer type guys who design the overall product, make all the hard design decisions. They also do protyping, make libraries and develop tools for the more junior programmers to use, etc. Working with these guys are a large group of more junior guys who do all the hard work of actually writing all the code, using the design and tools that the smart guys have done.

      It has been determined that you dont have to employ americans for the junior level positions, because all that is really required is hardworkingness and an eagerness to learn. You can employ ukrainians, irish, indians or chinese who speak english and if they show true talent, you bring them over on visas so they can pick up english and later become the guru type guys.

      This is bad for americans because it means that you have to eat a lot of crow when youre paying your dues as a junior level guy. Until you have about 5-7 years of experience, employers will not even begin to consider you as a valued asset- until then youre really cannon fodder. You really have to hustle when your compeition considers $100 a month to be a kingly salary. Its possible to succeed (Hey, I did without even a CS degree) but it takes a lot of work to get there.

      It doesnt exactly help that there are all sorts of pitfalls in the industry like clueless employers, consulting firms etc who can take someone with plenty of potential and completely ruin them as a programmer.

    29. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Grow up already! Work is about responsibility, learning and growing, improving and contributing. Do all of these and the good things will come.

      Actually, growing up is some of the work advice you can give. The majority of people getting laid off are those who are older, with higher salaries, and less "current" skills. Management droids somehow believe that "fresh" (inexperienced) programmers, straight out of college, have "current" skills and can perform better than seasoned programmers with 20+ years experience.

      Obviously that's bullshit (in most cases) but the people hiring and firing really don't understand what programming is, they only understand "does it work or not?" They can't comprehend that experienced programmers can learn new technology (probably faster than inexperienced programmers), and only experience lets you produce well-designed, maintainable programs. Inexperienced programmers do produce "working" programs, but in 5 years of maintenence it will require more programmers to maintain it than actually created it.

      I think the real reason for the lack of a clue in management is because they always are moving around. It seems like the management chain thinks continually moving managers around will somehow keep them "on their toes" or something. But what happens is the management never sees the long-term effects of the bad decisions, and history repeats itself, over and over again. That's one of the main reasons for the incredibly low quality of software these days...the other reason being bad programmers ;) That's a result of the boom; any field where salaries are unreasonably high will attract its fair share of greedy incompetents. Hopefully they are getting weeded out now, and going to other fields...

    30. Re:Are you kidding? by mystery_boy_x · · Score: 4, Interesting
      By making it known everyone considers everyone to be replaceable, most employees (of any level) start looking for new job. Best ones (that are most productive and skilled) find new job more easily, thus there's significant brain leakage. Below-average people try to hang in there and do not leave involuntarily.

      My experience suggests that things are more two-tiered. In my last IT job, in which I was hired as a new graduate, the company would periodically retrench people during down times and to cut costs. After about a year, I was retrenched also. The HR chick told me that it was nothing to do with performance, but it was obvious to me that they would not retrench people who they considered had performed well.

      These guru programmers - and there was a sizeable number of them - were told, in performance reviews and elsewhere how valuable the company considered them to be. They were frequently given payrises, promotions and bonuses also. The company would charge through the nose for their services. They could have had no fears about losing their jobs.

      While I would have preferred not to have been retrenched (after being hired as a graduate!) this approach has worked wonders for the company, enabling them to produce high quality work and greatly enlarge their client base.

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      I am not a lawyer but my sister is, so don't mess with me
    31. Re:Are you kidding? by efflux · · Score: 1

      actually, I didn't supply the context like I should have. What she was saying was that she was surprised that any code she wrote was being sold. She continued by talking about how she knew that was what school prepared you for but she still couldn't get over it.

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      Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. -- Walt Whitman
    32. Re:Are you kidding? by ddstreet · · Score: 1
      THIS one goes in the "I sure wish I had written this!" ref file.

      Thanks, I guess I shouldn't have posted anonymously ;) Although I don't think I'd like my employer to know that I wrote it...!

    33. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And certainly, don't reward bad programmers by promoting them - find a task they add value to in the organization, or get rid of them, period

      True. I guess a promotion to management just seems like what happens to bad programmers. And hey, I'd rather have them as my manager than have to work with their code! :)

      A good programmer, of course, doesn't really need much mentoring, they can pick up code, read it, and get themselves up to speed (and these are the people you REALLY want on your team)

      Bingo! You said it man. Unfortunately it seems like management just can't comprehend this, no matter how many times or different ways you tell them...

      never more than 1 inexperienced person for each 2 experienced folks at a time, until that inexperienced person has been brought up to speed

      So true...I just wish it was like that where I work. For some projects I've been on, almost half the team consists of inexperienced programmers from other countries, who barely even speak English! Management thinks they are great because they cost half (or less) as much as a programmer here, but management never realizes that the good programmers here have to hand-hold them through the project; so the local team's productivity drops dramatically, and the remote team's productivity is as good or better. Un-fucking-believeable. Of course there are good foreign programmers, sure, but many of them have actually come to the US to get better pay, or work for a local company that will pay them more. US management still hasn't figured out that you get what you pay for, there just isn't a way around it!

    34. Re:Are you kidding? by Doomdark · · Score: 1
      Interesting... and while I think it's unfortunate that promising new employees (I assume you were one) don't always get a chance to get to the "upper caste" (not because of their lack of skills but because of bad timing, bit of bad luck, not enough time to show their skills and learning capabilities), it's probably reasonably efficient way to retain talent. As to my comment, I was thinking of "bad companies" during bad times. I think company you worked for wasn't quite like that, and that's why they tried to make their top talent to feel safe, exactly to prevent them from looking elsewhere "just in case".

      I have also noticed that it takes between year and year and a half as a developer to really get recognized for my skills (experience from 2 of my last employers). YMMV as usual, but during these times that feels like a fairly long time. After that happens, though, things do get more interesting, and there's some more job security I think. Nothing like bullet-proof, but perhaps moving to a new tier in a way. So I guess my current employer may have somewhat similar practices.

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    35. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, all programmers suck because management says so.

      And managers are qualified to conclude this because...? oops.

      lol and people wonder why the competent people just leave and start their own companies.

    36. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: If you can spend $20 dollars today that will save you a $100 tomorrow; would you?

      A: No, if you send $20 dollars today you see no benefit tomorrow because it's what you expected. However, you definitely see the benefit of spending $100 dollars tomorrow to fix your problem.

      This happens all the time and in today's business environment it's about today and not tomorrow. Management: Plus people should just be happy to have a job -- isn't that enough?

      Not that I agree with my own post -- it's just the way it seems.

    37. Re:Are you kidding? by superyooser · · Score: 1
      If he is a bad programmer he probably is not a good manager either.

      I have to disagree with this assumption.

      When I was in high school marching band, there was this trumpet player with terrible morale. He was always frowning, he slouched when he marched, played badly, and complained a lot. He was bringing down the whole trumpet section. You might say he was a "loser" or bad apple. It got so bad, he got into vulgar shouting matches on the field with the director and was kicked out of some practices.

      The next year, he did a total 180 degree change in attitude. It turns out that he just needed a change in position.

      He auditioned to be a drum major (field director) and got the position. I was stunned! I half expected him to drop out of the band. Now he was directing it. You would think that someone not responsible enough to march and play wouldn't be responsible enough to lead the band, a much more involved job, but he did, and did it well. He had actually been to some camp during the summer to train for it. I was amazed at this new-found commitment.

      His whole demeanor had been transformed, like Clark Kent into Superman. He was serious, like a drill sergeant. He worked hard and was committed to making himself and the whole band succeed. This guy helped to lead the band in winning several awards in marching band competitions, something that had been rare in recent years.

      Sometimes people just have to be matched with the jobs that drive them. People have to find where they function best in an organizational body. A lousy programmer could be a fantastic manager, and an incompetent manager could be a clever programmer.

    38. Re:Are you kidding? by Interrupting+Cow · · Score: 1

      No kidding. I remember one time I was working on a project for provisioning wireless telecom switches. My part of the project was something very much like MQSeries. I stressed to my manager that we should prototype the parts that we had never done before. All went well until she went to a meeting with some other managers at the company. They belittled her in front of our VP for allowing the developers to "waste time" like that. She came back from the meeting literally shaking with rage. I was nearly fired on the spot. Never mind that we were ahead of schedule at the time.

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    39. Re:Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Agreed! Management is a profession just as being a code whore is. I have written code for several companies over the last 10+ years, and have seen all kinds of managers/leads/USOS(useless sacks of shit.) I have had a few exceptional managers, and have worked with a couple of companies where IT staff is almost decoupled from IT management.

      The best managers that I have worked for have all been former coders, but from the big iron days. They knew the ebb and flow of code writing is the same regardless of platform.

      I have also had pretty good virtually non-technical manager that were skilled in following some methodology from end to end through the project. They may not have been someone that you could bounce ideas off of or probe for some classic technique that you may be overlooking, but they understood the work to be done would not get anywhere by yelling and saying "just get it 'working' by EOB!!!!"

      Also, there have been many times that programmers had hire salaries than direct supervisors, and I am not just talking about the days when we could just name a figure. Some of the companies I have worked for truly knew that their existence depended upon the quality of code being produced, and just Monstering for a 'Will Code for Food' programmer would not get them where having a solid team of coders who actually cared about their work, and who proudly take ownership of their code. Quality is worth it at any price!

    40. Re:Are you kidding? by vsprintf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Are you kidding? In software development that requires highly qualified people, it is never easy to replace them. It can take months to dive into a new codebase; every day spent on grokking a new project means less constructive work done on it.

      Sure, you and I know that, but management is not willing to believe it. They would much rather believe that programmers are plug-and-play widgets that can be replaced at will.

      We once had a coder (call him Joe) who received an offer from another company and gave our employer a chance to match it. They told him no, so he took the other job. Jane was chosen to take over Joe's projects, and she was skilled but had no experience with the projects. A few weeks later, there was a minor-version OS upgrade for security reasons, and a critical application broke. The latest version wouldn't even compile any longer.

      From my office, which was very close to management row, I was able to hear the (very loud) wisdom of the top IT manager. He ranted at length about how it was unforgiveable that things stopped working just because some guy name Joe was gone. He yelled about how if we had proper documentation (which we did) anyone should be able to walk in and perform Joe's tasks. He shouted about having proper processes and how that would make individuals irrelevant. It was quite an eye-opener for me.

      At any rate, Jane called Joe, and he was nice enough to walk her through far enough that she was able to prove it was a problem with COTS software and have it resolved. The end result: four days down-time on a critical application and a whole slew of useless new rules on project documentation that waste a great deal of time. Management is generally clueless.

    41. Re:Are you kidding? by cjjjer · · Score: 0

      Another thing that should be done that may or may not be apart of the prototype is building a proof of concept for high risk scenarios. I have heard over and over again "oh ya we can do that" and in the end it's this little piece that trashes the project. The bonus of this is if the code is done correctly and not hacked together it can be implemented very easily into the code base.

  5. New company memo by Ed+Random · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Firings will continue until morale improves"
    - The Management

    Sorry, couldn't resist ;)

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    1. Re:New company memo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "For cost-cutting reasons, the light at the end of the tunnel will be switched off until further notice."
      - The Management

    2. Re:New company memo by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or, as Despair.com says, "Sometimes the solution to the morale problem is to fire all the unhappy people."

      --

      You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!

    3. Re:New company memo by sluue · · Score: 5, Funny

      isnt that "Beatings will continue until morale improves" ? :)

    4. Re:New company memo by deranged+unix+nut · · Score: 3, Funny

      Custom fortune cookies: "www.monster.com"

    5. Re:New company memo by Bishop · · Score: 1

      No word of a lie:

      A 3 hour meeting was scheduled for 8:30 Wednesday morning to discuss the department's (30+ people) low morale. Attendance was mandetory. Take a guess if muffins, donuts, or coffee was served.

    6. Re:New company memo by noc007 · · Score: 1

      Errr...no?

    7. Re:New company memo by edstromp · · Score: 1
    8. Re:New company memo by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1
      Custom fortune cookies: "www.monster.com"

      And I thought it was just a random number generator...

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    9. Re:New company memo by eatdave13 · · Score: 1

      Hehe... I have that on my desk at work. I got it while we were going through the toughest part of unionizing and people were getting fired for any reason they could think of. It must have killed management that I'm never late and never screw up. I just testify against them. They still want to fire me :)

      No way. I'm sticking around 'till they move the center next year. 6 months severance beyotch!

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      "Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin
    10. Re:New company memo by eatdave13 · · Score: 1

      Yes?

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    11. Re:New company memo by raduf · · Score: 1



      Not funny. I once applied in a student organisation which selected new members based on how much fun they had at a party. And they let us know in advance :)

    12. Re:New company memo by Fesh · · Score: 1

      I hear rushing for fraternities is like that. Glad I didn't bother...

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      --Fesh
      Kill -9 'em all, let root@localhost sort 'em out.
    13. Re:New company memo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The light at the end of the tunnel is a train."
      -The Management

    14. Re:New company memo by Bishop · · Score: 1

      congradulations. you have won the red stapler.

  6. How not to do it... by technik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Two years ago I wrote this: Management Techniques of the Bottom 95% of U.S. Corporations.

    Just take all the advice and reverse it. :)

    1. Re:How not to do it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Now that is fucking funny!

      And it's funny because it's true. :(

      Sucks that I work at a company exactly like that. I think upper management read your list and mandated that all items be immediately implemented!

      I would say what company that is...but (big) I probably (blue) shoudn't...

    2. Re:How not to do it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Your list of managment techniques is spot-on (and hilarious in the Office Space-sense). Here are some additional techniques:
      • Implement cost cutting measures like sharing cubicles and phones. Workers (especially programmers) will fall asleep in quiet environments.
      • Institute low storage limits for email, file servers, etc. Disk space is about $5/Gb, but having your employees efficiently manage this valuable resource is free.
      • Introduce grand new strategic initiatives. Have no vision for how the strategy will help the bottom line. Require worthless training for all employees for whom it would make a difference. Give the good training to people in a position where they cannot make a difference.
    3. Re:How not to do it... by bob670 · · Score: 1

      How did you get my companies SOP manual? It's hard enough for actual employees to get a copy? Then there's our I.T. policy manual that is stored in the directors locked cabinet... I can't decide whether to laugh or cry, that hit far to close to home.

    4. Re:How not to do it... by srn_test · · Score: 1

      I worked for a guy once who got his entire company together (total hourly cost: $600) to complain that people were using up too much paper (a ream of paper: $5.00). He spent a good half-hour talking about it. (Quiting and taking staff with me: priceless).

      Mind you, this was the same boss who promised people "non-voting, non-dividend earning shares" as a bonus.

    5. Re:How not to do it... by hardcode · · Score: 1

      Oh my, that deserves a +5 insightful.

      I've been in IT 13 years, and contracting for the past 3 and I can truely say I've probably worked for only one (now defunct) company that didn't match that to a T.

      Jolly good work old boy!

      hardcode

    6. Re:How not to do it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .. yeah.. its a good idea to take your staff with you when you quit.

    7. Re:How not to do it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's even worse when you're a contractor.

      and in another country.

      (AC post, of course)

  7. Similar situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'm in a similar situation. Our company has had some layoffs, nobody who was a valuable employee in engineering was laid off, however.
    Our management is bad, their management is mediocre, and the management at the top is terrible.

    How do we fix our morale?
    The one thing which has helped me is realizing that management isn't always the enemy. Some of them are stuck in the same shitty situation as you, the engineer, are. Others are trapped by their own management. And yes, some of them are just rotten, but don't blame the messenger, but usually, don't blame his/her boss either!

  8. Find another job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there isn't enough challenging work, and people are getting laid off, find another job. That's sure to raise morale.

  9. Word Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I work for a software dev company down
    here in O.C. It's the same way here.

    The way I relieve my stress is applying
    for better jobs and talking more sh!t
    about management and their crappy decisions
    that landed up the company in this situation.

  10. I left by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    what have you done to improve employee morale in your company? As an employee, what can I do to improve the morale in the people I work with? How can I make my work environment more enjoyable?

    I left and went to another company with people that are happy. Much happier when I recognized that I couldn't steer a ship from the White Star Line with a paddle. Just not possible.

    1. Re:I left by eversunsoft · · Score: 1
      Exactly. The gossip, dispair, and petty behavior that develops in situations like this is contagious. If you are interested in working in a productive environment, and want to feel good about yourself, you should leave immediately.

      You could decide to bring in flowers, and smile more, but, this paddle has very large holes in it.

  11. Honesty by blastedtokyo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Try extracting a little honesty. You won't improve morale by playing music as the titanic is going down. Find ways to tell people the truth. Blow the whistle on bad practices. Get to know management better so you can find out what is really going on so you can tell your people. Tell them what factors will lead to the success of your company. Tell them where you (mgmt or not) fucked up. Tell them where you plan to change things. Tell employees what role they play in the recovery.

    If the company intends to screw everyone after finishing a couple pieces to make a liquidation plausible, then it's pretty cold to try to improve morale if you know something horrible's about to go down.

    1. Re:Honesty by Gortbusters.org · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what has happened... I am absolutely honest with my boss, saying things like "This additional item will delay the others, I'm overloaded." or I will point out a flaw in the process which is preventing the work to be done. Then my boss will work those items to improve the efficiency of my work, and the work of my peers.

      These days, my boss is my best ally.

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  12. Weed Out Trouble by Wanker · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just fire all the troublemakers as an example to others. Morale will skyrocket. ;-)

  13. Brown Nose by phusnikn · · Score: 0

    I work for the city goverment (NYC) and I can tell you right off the back its not what you know its who you know.. sometimes you just have to buckle down and kiss ass I know it doesnt sound like the moral thing to do but usually the bosses snitch/bitch usually rides the boat the longest.. Just start smooshing with upper management this is a cut throath market everyone wants your job!! get to know more people of higher status than you in the company.

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    - I came I saw I Conquered
  14. Suck It Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    These people should be glad they're able to find work at a job that cannot really be considered manual labor. Be glad it's not the depression. Be glad it's not a factory line job.

    In short: Look on the bright side.

    1. Re:Suck It Up by Trinn · · Score: 1

      While I know you intended it to be funny, your post is quite true. These people should try flipping burgers for a while (my current job). I'm actually quite experienced in programming, web site design, admin, etc., though because I have no degrees or certs yet I could never hope to get a job in the field. Trust me, there are some of us who would much rather be in a reasonably secure job in a cubicle than where we are, even if it were for only a little bit more money. (I make 6/hr now, I would be very happy with a cubicle for 10-12/hr)

    2. Re:Suck It Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I resemble this remark :)

      I consider myself a computer geek, but I'm working as a box monkey at a warehouse doing hard labour because there's really not much in the way of tech jobs in my area. But, on the plus side, they have good benefits, pay is ok, and it's a stable and secure job.

      Now, as for improving morale, I've found that if you can have a good attitude, and keep your spirits up, others around you won't be as unhappy. Sure this doesn't help morale towards the company, but among yourselves it helps, and this translates into being more productive (which could translate into the company not wanting to let you go as quickly).

      How do you do this? There are lots of ways. Myself and a couple others come in with different hair colours each week...We make side bets (using coffee as the currency) as to who can do certain performance based things (long story short, everthing is timed, so we try and do it quicker than what the engineers say we can). Find ways of building team relationships amonst each other...do beer and nacho nights on nights off...have days where one person always refers to everyone else as guy, another refers to everyone as dude, and another refers to everyone as Homie. Little things like this can help to keep your general morale up, and help to build your team dynamics, and therefore make you a more productive team, and therefore a more valuable team.

      But, when doing all of these things, try not to leave the management out of it. Try to include them. If you go out of your way to try and bring them into your circle, then you'll a) start finding out that it's not necessarily management that's being the prick, that it's usually people above them, and they are just the messenger, and b) find that if there's something that the manager can do that's a little special, they'll go that extra bit to do it. For example, if you get a regular hour long lunch, the supervisor won't always care if you start taking a regular hour and a half lunch (granted that's as long as you are getting all your work done).

      So, to sum up, keep your attitude up, build your team dynamics, and try to go out of your way to include your direct management.....it's amazing what a little kindness towards management can do (manager at last job used to take us to Hooters for lunch...and he paid for it, not the company)

      There's my $4.95 worth.

      Zro

    3. Re:Suck It Up by 2nesser · · Score: 1

      Wait a second... web development isn't a factory line job? My world is upsidedown! AHHHHH!

    4. Re:Suck It Up by monsterzero2003 · · Score: 1

      "Be glad it's not a factory line job."

      What do you have against manual labor? I am a programmer (for 18 years) but previously worked in various factories and have to say that if I could get paid the same as I do now and do factory work it would be no contest. I would take it in a second.

    5. Re:Suck It Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Who told you this isn't a depression?

      As far as 'THE depression' goes, this is the one that will eventually take that title.

      So, I find no reason to be glad.

      One of the things the war is about is keeping people from doing _anything_ in the face of their economic situation - figuring that time heals all wounds, the more time that passes with people not thinking about it, the better chance the economy will recover in time to save Bush's re-election.

      To briefly return to a location near the topic at hand, morale at my former company has probably never been better - the doors closed about 9 months ago...

      Isn't this Anonymous Coward stuff wonderful?

  15. HAMMOCKS! by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Funny

    "In fact I know this place called Mary-Anne's Hammocks - the nice thing about it is, Mary-Anne gets in the hammock with you! Hahah, I'm just kidding, Homer."

    Hank Scorpio rules.

    1. Re:HAMMOCKS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And that's why you can wear this jacket, marge."

      Lionel Hutz
      RIP Phil Hartman

    2. Re:HAMMOCKS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.armchairempire.com/action-figures/hank- scorpio.htm

      Coolest. Toy. Ever.

    3. Re:HAMMOCKS! by Hank+Scorpio · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hank Scorpio rules.

      Well, it's about time somebody recognized that which I've been saying all along!! :)

  16. Morale is your own responsibility by yellowstone · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You can start by getting over the idea that your morale is the responsibility of the company.
    Most lunches are spent complaining
    If you spend time complaining, you will invariably find plenty to complain about.
    about lack of enjoyment/challenge from the job
    Enjoyment and challenge on the job is not something that is pointed out to you; it is something you must find for yourself.
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    1. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by babylon93 · · Score: 0

      I agree. If a person finds their job dull, maybe they are either:

      ->> not showing their employer the skills necessary for a more challenging assignment
      ->> upset about something else, but projecting it on work
      ->> jealous of a project someone else was assigned
      ->> the project you are working on has dragged on too long and you are anxious to start something else ->> any combination of the above

      I am only speaking out of personal experience here.

    2. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Your morale may be your own responsibility, but that of others? Only if you are their manager.

      If your morale is low, analyse your situation, and decide what is causing this (you started off with an impressive list of reasons which could be summarized thus: You're in a sinking ship, and are uncertain about your future.). Once you have figured out what is causing your situation, figure out what you are going to do about it. (This can be difficult, I admit. I've ended up working at the job I'm at for ove a year longer than I had planned to.. and I figure that I have about 4 more months. I'll tell them in about 45 days.) Plan your strategy to get from where you are to where you want to be. Include a good margin of safety. Be honest with youself at all times. This doesn't impose a requirement that you be honest with others, but at least it makes it possible. And if you are honest with yourself, then you can have a more accurate understanding of your motivations and position.

      And don't *expect* that your job will provide all you want. Hope for it, but don't expect it. Somethings you need to do for yourself.

      Be sure that you have one challenge that you accept as desireable, and which pulls you, but which you can't really expect to accomplish. Work toward that, but be honest that you can't expect of yourself that you'll accomplish it. Set mileposts that you CAN accomplish. And notice when you do..

      Most of this is independant of your job ... unless you sign one of those contracts that say "everything you do is ours, no matter what time of day or night", so don't.

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    3. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Morale is also management's responsibility, my friend. We do not work in a world where people will keep having crap shoved down their throats and say "Sure, it's crap...but at least I'm not hungry." Management that doesn't know how to pick up marale and inspire employees is really just marking time till the employees sabotage their plans, reduce productivity or just plain leave. Suppose Patton hadn't cared what his troops' morale was, how far do you think he would have gotten? Bottom line: your post is inaccurate and you, obviously, are not in management.

    4. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You can start by getting over _your_ idea that your morale is independent of what the company does.

      Enjoyment and challenge on the job is something that can be taken away from you when you are continuously set up to fail, not allowed the freedom you need to do good work, deprived of the support you need to make projects succeed, and have your knowledge of how to make things better ignored.

      One partial solution is to gather a group of people together and determine that you're going to fight against your company so long as it does things wrong, but that's not something to take lightly. It's very much about making a last stand when things can't get any worse.

      If you've never worked for a company that loses money hand-over-fist because of clueless management, you have no right to come on "holier than thou" because people notice that this, and its consequences, is not good for their morale

    5. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by efflux · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Enjoyment and challenge on the job is not something that is pointed out to you; it is something you must find for yourself.

      This sort of presupposes that such oportunities/challenges exist in your work place. Their are environments, typically only in small businesses, where management is so clueless that you can actually find yourself in hot water for proposing ways to get the company out of the IT shithole you're in.

      Case in point: I'm currently working for a bookstore at a university. A few years back we purchased a point of sale and inventory management system. The product we purchased so poorly developed it's egregious. In many instances it just doesn't work, and where it does work we have to go through so many hoops to get it to work, it would be better ditching it altogether. Now, this product also has various web services that are meant to run on our AS/400 server. They allow our customers to perform various activities such as: order a textbook, reserve a textbook, request a textbook adoption (for faculty), and so on. Now, as with most of the products supplied to us by our vendors, these products barely work. This is exceptionally damaging to us as an institution as these are programs that our customers interface with directly. So, I have recently proposed an alternative to management. That we set up a linux server running mySQL, apache, and PHP. We could then create web applications to replace the faulty applications we are now using.

      I've spent quite some time with this proposal: In fact it's turned out to be forty-some page memorandum, complete with research and estimates on how this change would effect our company.

      Now, here's the kicker. Management turned out not to be interested in even looking at the proposal. It seems he's more interested in protecting his image than the company. We've spent over a quarter million dollars on equipment and software alone, not to mention outrageous support fees. He's expressed the opinion that since we've invested so much into this product already, he can't just back out now. You see, it would make it look like he made a bad decision. Not just a bad one, but a very costly one. Since the University is considering outsourcing the bookstore, it is important that his image remain intact. Even if it means that we can barely funciton.

      So, for the time being I am stuck with: Data entry, employee training, finding workarounds, and writing shitty reports and query utilities with Visual Basic (the only thing I've been able to use out of concern for future maintenance--it has to be able to be modified by Joe Random Coder). Damn it. I swear, it seems like nothing I do will actually have any impact. Why, then, should I care?

      FYI: I am a graduate student studying mathematics. I've been with this bookstore for 5 years now. I was hired as an undergraduate student studying Comp Sci. I am now working full time and have education benefits for me and my wife, which is what is keeping me with this employer. And yes, I am at work now. :-7

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      Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. -- Walt Whitman
    6. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm sorry, but if continual and frequent layoffs are occuring, you are a) affraid of losing your job, reguardless of how good a worker you are, b) stressed all the time because of this fact, and c) always looking over your shoulder, no matter how good a job you're doing at the time.

      That alone is reason to complain. It's comparable to being a slave and always looking over your shoulder for the angry slavemaster with the whip.

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    7. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by GoofyBoy · · Score: 1

      Have you considered writing something that takes into consideration of the "political issues"/system more?

      So something like;

      Problem A: (Detailed reproducable problem or improvement and why it needs to be changed)
      Solution Option 1: (A quick fix using the existing VB system and pro/cons)
      Solution Option 2: (A detailed fix using new stuff you suggested and pro/cons)
      Solution Option 3: (A fix mixing option 1 and 2)

      That way he (or whomever replaces him) has options depending how he feels that day. At the very least it would be an interesting exercise for yourself.

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      The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
    8. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      Management turned out not to be interested in even looking at the proposal. It seems he's more interested in protecting his image than the company. We've spent over a quarter million dollars on equipment and software alone, not to mention outrageous support fees. He's expressed the opinion that since we've invested so much into this product already, he can't just back out now. You see, it would make it look like he made a bad decision. Not just a bad one, but a very costly one. Since the University is considering outsourcing the bookstore, it is important that his image remain intact. Even if it means that we can barely funciton.

      Looks like you've found out why he's management at a Uni and not corporate. A decent leader would recognize the opportunity to change the failed project he's authorized into a winner without losing face. Your job is to offer him a way out (and get him on your side). You work at a college bookstore - there's a supply of cheap labor in the form of motivated college students. You can probably use them.

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      "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
    9. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by yellowstone · · Score: 1
      I'm sorry, but if continual and frequent layoffs are occuring, you are a) affraid of losing your job, reguardless of how good a worker you are,
      Why be afraid? If you don't get laid off, there's no point, and if you do get laid off, being afraid doesn't make it any better. (N.B. doing stuff in preperation of the possibility of being laid off (like paying off debts, cutting back on spending, building up savings) is not being afraid -- in times like these, it's just good sense)
      That alone is reason to complain.
      Consider the following hypothetical situation: a manager has to lay off someone. He's got a choice between two more-or-less equal people, except one is afraid of being laid off (and consequently complaining and looking over his shoulder), and the other one is just doing his best. Guess which one gets the axe? If you're not careful, being afraid of getting laid off becomes a self-fufilling prophecy.

      It's not easy to keep up your morale (else everyone would be doing it), but it's definitely worth it, even if you do get laid off.

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    10. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by efflux · · Score: 1

      You work at a college bookstore - there's a supply of cheap labor in the form of motivated college students. You can probably use them.

      Most student employees here are treated more as a liability than a resource. Like I said, most. I would be an exception.

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      Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. -- Walt Whitman
    11. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by richieb · · Score: 1
      So, I have recently proposed an alternative to management. That we set up a linux server running mySQL, apache, and PHP. We could then create web applications to replace the faulty applications we are now using.

      It's probably true that there are problems with the software you are using. But I think it's bit arrogant of you presuming that you could re-write the whole thing. Do you have a record of deliverying working apps? How much code do you have in production?

      Perhaps a better solution would be to find if there is a vendor that provides a better/cheaper solution that runs on Linux and suggest that.

      --
      ...richie - It is a good day to code.
    12. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by efflux · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what I have done. Unfortunately, if he goes with the VB fixes, it looks like they'll quit working in a few years. For one, any changes in the program by our vendor and they can quit working. Furthermore, the IT dept that services the campus here has subscribed to MS's license 6 program. When we are forced to upgrade to Longhorn, it looks like our VB 6 programs will quit. I doubt .Net will be much better.

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      Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. -- Walt Whitman
    13. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2 points:

      1. You are a graduate student studying mathematics, and you are not fully supported by the mathematics department? Where the hell are you? Virtually all of the mathematics graduate student I know from around the world are completely supported by the department that they are studying in. Every one of the students in the mathematics department at my school is fully supported. This means jumping through hoops to get insurance coverage for children in some cases.

      2. At the university I attend we have a bookstore committee which is comprised of several professors along with a few students. They basically perform oversight on behalf of the univerisity community, and operate independantly, but in concert with the bookstore management. I suggest you get something like this started on your campus.

    14. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by efflux · · Score: 1

      What I have proposed is that it will be easier for us to re-write select facilities than to get the current apps working in a manner that would suit us.

      I have a few dozen utilities that fellow employees use daily, plus a couple full blown inventory systems (like keeping track of books sent out to high schools for dual credit classes).

      Perhaps a better solution would be to find if there is a vendor that provides a better/cheaper solution that runs on Linux and suggest that. It needs to interface with our current system. What I have proposed is various query utilities and simple transactions that will access our existing databases. Such as: "Student is in Math 1111. Student wants to know what books he needs for the class before coming to the store, and wants to look for it on our website. Then, student decides he wants us to hold it for him."

      We need to be able to handle these sort of demands. It will take some time, certainly. However, it should not be impossible to implement. Furthermore, it must access our existing databases (probably through some sort of daily export) to get to our specific adoption (and other) information.

      The applications we previous to this Point of Slale system were developed entirely in house. However, it wasn't POS, which is why we put so much money on the new system. Hell--we didn't even have the equipment for a POS system before.

      I've worked enough on our system to feel that I could get a solution deployed. One of management's concerns is who will maintain the site once I leave. What I've been telling him is, he is more likely to get a student familiar with linux, than to get one who can administer an AS/400. Though, we will still have the AS/400, just not as a webserver. At least we could quit dicking around with IBM's NET.DATA&DB2 (which we've had to do to modify what our vendor has supplied us) and move to something real like PHP&MySQL.

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      Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. -- Walt Whitman
    15. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by booch · · Score: 1
      It seems he's more interested in protecting his image than the company.

      It's at this point that you should consider going over his head. If you believe that you can save the company money, and management is standing in the way, you should point that out to higher management. That said, you'll probably be seen as not being a team player, since upper management has a better relationship with your management than with you.

      He's expressed the opinion that since we've invested so much into this product already, he can't just back out now. You see, it would make it look like he made a bad decision.

      I've made the argument that that's an excellent reason that management chooses proprietary software. They need someone to blame when things go wrong. Open Source software is generally better for the company. It's management's self-preservation that requires them to choose proprietary software, at the expense of the company.

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      Software sucks. Open Source sucks less.
    16. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by Corpus_Callosum · · Score: 1

      I can't agree with this more. I have, on several occassions, run small companies - one of which I managed to sell during the .com boom [hurray!]..

      I worked for years as a contract engineer and started running my own companies a few years back. I also have experience as senior management in a large corporation. If it can happen, I've seen it, probably from a few different angles...

      It is my observation that happiness can be destroyed by bad management, but cannot be created by good management. Happiness, productivity and success are the creation of well-balanced, motivated people that are being treated well and cared for by their company.

      It is also my observation that one bad apple can infect those around them quickly and must be removed with prejudice. When an employee gets a bug up his ass to start a campaign of complaints and bad attitude, that person needs immediate removal before he/she lays waste to established teams and well working systems within your company. Any employee that is willing to talk openly and poorly of his/her employer has already crossed a line and done damage that is not easily repaired. Time to cut your losses with that employee.

      An employee that has real greivances can approach solving those greivances in many different positive ways. An inability to do this is perhaps the worst employment disability an employee could posses.

      In short: Treat your people well and immediately fire anyone who's attitude turns against the company.

      I would rather have happy idiots that work together well than unhappy geniuses that don't get along with those around them. In the end, the idiots will do better work through the power of collective emergence!

      -Corpus

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    17. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by efflux · · Score: 1

      1) Where the hell are you? A US state school in Missouri. I do have a departmental scholarship for next year. *grin* I could apply for a GA position--but I would loose out on a lot of the benefits I am getting now. I would still have my tuition paid, but I couldn't get part of my wife's covered like I am now. The stipend I would receive would also be a significant cut in pay. The school used to have great medical and dental benefits--but with recent funding cuts, we went to a new provider. I no longer have dental or medical for my wife (otherwise I take huge amounts out of my paycheck).



      2)I suggest you get something like this started on your campus.

      Not really up to me. Maybe I can propose it to the University anonymously. However, Management here is rather entrenched--been in his position here for 20+ years and is not moving, nor about to let someone have any more power over him than what they currently do. He's got some pull to back it up.

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      Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. -- Walt Whitman
    18. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by Kragg · · Score: 1

      It's all about how you sell it. It wasn't a bad decision 5 years ago because the technology then (especially the free stuff) was too immature to make it viable. That system was the only way to get the job done. However, now, it's time for a change.

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    19. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Case in point: I'm currently working for a bookstore at a university.
      >

      Yeah.. you can just stop talking now.
      I really doubt you're working your way through school working at the book store. I'd bet that your idea of hard economic times is when your parents forget to send you your allowance.
      I really feel for you. I bet your mom wont even be able to send you to tennis camp this summer.
      thats so sad.
      We're having a "Big Boy" discussion... you're more than welcome to join the discussion 6 years from now when you get a taste of real life.

    20. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      Enjoyment and challenge on the job is not something that is pointed out to you; it is something you must find for yourself.

      Wow. You have lots of experience in this I can see.

      Right now time spent at my job consists of about 80% talking to customers on the phone - usually about how their internet connection or their mail doesn't work - and other asinine things like licking and folding, or manually putting payments through a credit card machine. The other 20% consists of doing real work (sysadminning). Occasionally, during busy periods that balance will turn into 100% techsupport/licking/folding, and 0% real work, and if I'm lucky, I'll get lunch breaks.

      Let me tell you something about tech support for people with Outlook express and a dialup account. It is mind-numbingly boring. Everyone asks you the same damn questions every day. You don't need to think, you don't even need to spend time discovering what the customer means by "it doesn't work," you just need to read their connection logs and give them the answer you learned five years previous.

      If you can find enjoyment and challenge in this somewhere, you deserve a nobel prize.

      --
      "No problem. I have the capacity to do infinite work so long as you don't mind that my quality approaches zero."-Dilbert
    21. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      "Morale is your own responsibility"

      I presume that you would offer the same advice to the soldiers currently fighing in the Gulf?

      A statement like this is a clear indication that Western society could be in imminent danger of collapse.

      Any organisation where "Morale is your own responsibility" will be eaten by another organization that thinks differently.

      I suggest you re-evaluate your mindset before evolution takes its natural course.

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      Facts are history now plebs have politics for religion on social media.
    22. Re:Morale is your own responsibility by efflux · · Score: 1

      I really doubt you're working your way through school working at the book store. I'd bet that your idea of hard economic times is when your parents forget to send you your allowance.

      Actually, My mom is homeless right now. She stays at a homeless shelter ran by Middle Eastern nuns (believe it or not, they were burkas). My father's a druken bastard who lives off of the government and like to come over and threaten me every now and then.

      My wife is Russian. He mother makes about $40 a month working two jobs. Her father has nothing to do with her. I have to support my wife through school (She's not allowed to work more than 20 hours a week until we get her green card--which takes years), and we have to do whatever we can to support our parents. Lukily enough, my brother's got his shit straight enough so that he was able to take my 13 year old sister in (who was living with my mother) so that she wouldn't have to go to a foster home. If it was up to me to take care of her I would have done what I can--even if it would have meant dropping out of school. Granted, I do get some governmental assistance to attend school. Without it, I wouldn't have a chance.

      We're having a "Big Boy" discussion... you're more than welcome to join the discussion 6 years from now when you get a taste of real life.

      Your words betray you.

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      Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. -- Walt Whitman
  17. Some people whine too much by jagilbertvt · · Score: 0, Troll

    Get a new job you whiner. Some of us would be happy to have a job to complain about.

    1. Re:Some people whine too much by jagilbertvt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I actually have a job, just thought he could use a good harassing :)

  18. not much hope... by gralem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    #1 *ALWAYS LOOK FOR A BETTER JOB*.

    That is, until you find a job where you don't feel you have to look over your shoulder and wonder why management doesn't get it. When management doesn't get it, there's usually no way to fix it. It becomes entrenched in the fabric of the company.

    There is only one way for such a company to change--promote from within. This brings up the people who already understand the business PLUS understand the real-world problems faced by the little employees. But such companies rarely do this. They usually hire outside people who have no clue as to what goes on day-to-day. And they keep crapping on their own employees.

    I really recommend looking for another job. If jobs in your area are scarce, then think about moving. Being flexible always provides better opportunities. I know the job market is tough right now, and I would not like to be looking for a job. But I've been in that situation many times. And there is not much hope for this type of a company. Unless they promote from within and start investing in their current employees, rather than try to find the next replacement manager who is going to solve all problems, there really is no hope.

    Also, all employers should have incentive programs that are based on performance. If your employer does not offer such incentives--even something as little as free movie tickets for the top-performing departments based on measurable results (like lines of checked code, or # of support issues resolved and verified)--then it is another sign of problems with management.

    ---gralem

    1. Re:not much hope... by tborgman · · Score: 1

      I like the idea of promoting from within, if there are qualified candidates. Our company (at times) has taken this to the extreme. Putting people in technical positions and hoping they learn the job instead of hiring someone with experience and/or education in that area. On the other hand, for jobs which there some to be qualified internal candidates they haven't promoted from within and looked for experience. BassAckwards to say the least. Probably explains why we cut 50 jobs last month.

    2. Re:not much hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like your comments. You should have been scored better than 1.

    3. Re:not much hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, all employers should have incentive programs that are based on performance. If your employer does not offer such incentives--even something as little as free movie tickets for the top-performing departments based on measurable results (like lines of checked code, or # of support issues resolved and verified)--then it is another sign of problems with management.

      I disagree. For good morale, employers should give this to everyone. They might as well, because it's cheap.

      For good performance, employees expect to be compensated at the employer's expense, in the form of promotions or bonuses.. and that performance should be judged by people who understand what the people are doing, not by something that counts the number of checkins. Cheap perks in lieu of money can piss off the employees.
    4. Re:not much hope... by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 1

      Some companies have so much bereaucracy, it puts even army to shame. There used to a saying that in army, the only way to get promoted is if the senior member is killed or wounded in a war.

      In case of some companies that I know, even that doesn't help. Well, the logic is "why not hire some old fart laid off from a big company, instead of promoting internal people."

      In that scenario, lot of the internal people come about feeling themselves seen as "resources" rather than an integral part of the company.

      An anecdote and a question here: a friend of mine started working in a startup (with a couple of founders, so he is the first employee). However, as the company grew, the company head started bringing in "experts" from outside. So, after a few years, my friend is still in the same position he was hired at. Should he just move on, or has he done something dumb to get into the present situation?

      S

    5. Re:not much hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An anecdote and a question here: a friend of mine started working in a startup (with a couple of founders, so he is the first employee). However, as the company grew, the company head started bringing in "experts" from outside. So, after a few years, my friend is still in the same position he was hired at. Should he just move on, or has he done something dumb to get into the present situation?

      I'd say he was hosed from the start. If he still does the same position with the same salary, something is clearly wrong. Look for a new job. Tell the management what's up. If they downplay it or nothing happens, leave. Use the window/balcony/fire exit if necessary, but get the hell out of there fast. Of course, if your friend lacks the skills to become anything else, it's another thing altogether. But I do think he should be something more than a drone by now.

    6. Re:not much hope... by Grax · · Score: 1

      I believe in a money based incentive program. Employees need to know that their work is appreciated and if they work extra hard or extra smart (or both) they will be rewarded for it.
      The ideal employee feels like they own the company or at least their part of it, and they are there to make sure it succeeds.

      I want my employees dreaming up new ways to make me money. I believe the best way to do that is to see to it that they will make money. If an employee makes me so much money that he starts pulling in ridiculously large paychecks then good for him, I want more of him because each time I pay him a ridiculous amount I get a much larger ridiculous amount.

      My business is still young and some people have told me that certain people lose motivation when they're making too much money. I will believe it when I see it but I hope I can prove them wrong.

    7. Re:not much hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting anonymously in case someone points this out to the boss...

      I work for a company that hires most of it's managers internally. They either move up from a more junior role, or they come from a different part of the company. The end result is that the company is run by a pack of ameteurs. Most have no management training, no project management skills, no accounting skills, no people skills ... etc. Worse many of them are the office politicians who get where they are by "being seen to support management".

      The usual reason they do this? Because it is cheaper than hiring qualified outside people.

      It's just like the old sayings:

      • people get promoted to the level of their incompetance
      • turn a good engineer into a bad manager. /UL
    8. Re:not much hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is only one way for such a company to change--promote from within. This brings up the people who already understand the business PLUS understand the real-world problems faced by the little employees. But such companies rarely do this. They usually hire outside people who have no clue as to what goes on day-to-day. And they keep crapping on their own employees.

      Is it just me or does this describe most of the Republicans in politics today?

      Riiiight; what's a cubit?

  19. Read by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Read this. The leader in your company should be the first to take on long hours, pay cuts, all of the worst jobs. Set the example for your employees and most importantly, do it with a smile on your face.

    1. Re:Read by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 1

      Correction. ALL of the leadership in your company not just the leader should follow those guidelines. Sorry about that:)

    2. Re:Read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The leader in your company should be the first to take on long hours, pay cuts, all of the worst jobs.

      This was done at the job I just quit. The management seemed to be of the opinion that having them suffer the long hours with me would make me somehow happier, and prevent any health problems. This didn't seem to hold true. Funny, that.

  20. What not to do by Fjord · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's going to be very hard in your present situation. A ping pong table or lunches aren't going to cure the problem: that you've been laying off in stages, causing people to believe that more stages are yet to come. My only suggestion is to open the books a lot, to let people know that you are cash flow positive and that they don't have anything to worry about. If you aren't cash flow positive, then make another cut, but cut very deeply, deeply enough to get the company in a survivable state, and then open the books.

    If you can't cut, then you'll need to readjust salaries. DON'T OVERPROMISE. Don't say things like "you'll take a cut here, but when things get good you'll get this kind of bonus" and then later make projections like "we'll be doing well by 3Q03." People remember this shit and when you don't follow through, every promise you make is suspect.

    If you don't do something drastic, what will happen is this: the best developers will find a new job fairly quickly for today's economy (about two months). You'll be stuck with the worst ones: the inarticulate, the inexperienced, and the difficult to work with. And then your company will really suffer.

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  21. source of good morale by Maelikai · · Score: 1

    Optimal experience comes from "flow". See http://www.debateit.net/improvethought/flow1.htm

    In a company/team setting this means having shared challenges that are overcome by the working together. If an assignment isn't inherently challenging you can try to find ways to make it a game.

    By contrast morale isn't developed by free food, foosball, ping pong, beer on Fridays, etc. Those things might make it more fun to be at work, they can reinforce the bonds in a team, but they don't make doing the work any more fun.

  22. Alcohol by e1en0r · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, seriously. That really helps at my company. Granted, it's only a small company of around 30 people, but every last Friday of the month (and occasionally others) they bring us beer and sometimes margaritas. Everyone hangs out in the kitchen and lets off some steam and it really does help. There's usually leftovers too, so my friend and I sneak back there about 15 minutes before quitting time on other days and have our own little party. Several times the owners have walked past on the way to the bathroom and occasionally they join us.

    1. Re:Alcohol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That works for small companies. Our company used to do that when our division was small but as we grew, liability became an issue and the alcohol was canned.

    2. Re:Alcohol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So you had to switch to cans? Bummer. It tastes so much better out of a bottle.

    3. Re:Alcohol by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      they bring us beer and sometimes margaritas.

      You must be the Microsoft Outlook Security Development team :-P

      * hic *

    4. Re:Alcohol by zerocool^ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was just talking about this with my boss yesterday. As to getting tipsy on your lunch break: We don't so much condone it as we ignore it. And we don't so much ignore it as we celebrate it.

      I'm 95% kidding, of course, but alcohol not being on the same list as comming to work on crack definately helps some. You're not afraid to order a draft beer or two with your sandwitch.

      Plus, another big one is how comfortable the employees are in their work environment. We don't have an official uniform. I wear sandals and my Itchy and Scratchy t-shirt to work. BUT I feel more productive because I don't have to deal with wearing a company logo polo shirt and dress shoes.

      A lot of smaller technology firms could benifit from expanding "dress down friday" to everyday. Really, how often do you see your customers? I know of one customer who currently lives in the same town as our office, and he signed up because he knew me. As long as we remain professional on the phone, what does it honestly matter?

      Also: Music. We're allowed to quietly play music at work. Note: QUIETLY, because we have to be able to hear phone conversations, but, we all like different kinds of music (techno, country/classical, punk). Being able to have background music does help.

      Plus, being able to browse websites not strictly related to work helps, too. We just call it "selective trolling" - keep the work URL in the .sig, and that gives us an excuse to read slashdot at work =). We explain to the owner that if we post to slashdot, people will see the link in the .sig file and sign up for service, so he's sort of alright with that.

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    5. Re:Alcohol by alch · · Score: 1

      ie : Bob just got fired ... to bad ... so sad ... pass the beer nuts !!

    6. Re:Alcohol by NineNine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Jesus, that was a depressing post. It reminded me what it was like to work. Running your own business is tough, and today's been a shitty day, but good god, it's so much better than a fucking cube job where you have to worry about what you wear, what say, what you browse, and even what you fucking ingest. Mother of god, if I went back to something like that, I'd shoot myself in the fucking head. A bland, lame beer at TGIF ever month? Whoop-de-fucking-do. Is that what passes for "fun" after one has been lobotimized?

    7. Re:Alcohol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mmmmm, canned alcohol...

    8. Re:Alcohol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      There was a recent study that explained how even a little alcohol could be detrimental to your thinking and behavior.

      Let me set this up. A completely sober person makes mistakes and errors, because no one is perfect. A sober person usually recognizes these mistakes and makes the corrective actions to make things right again. For example, being a sober person, you occasionally, errantly veer your car slightly over the painted line into the other lane. Usually, you quickly swerve back into your lane and tell yourself to "wake up!" and be more alert.

      Having one or two drinks does not increase your level of errors, but it impairs your ability to recognize the errors you normally make. The natural self-correction process starts to break down.

      I think that letting developers drink alcohol on the job might have bad ramifications on the quality of coding and bug finding.

    9. Re:Alcohol by zerocool^ · · Score: 1

      Heh, not all of us can run the most popular pr0n site in the world =). While I commend your efforts, and am jealous of your lifestyle, seriously, my job is basically only slightly above zero stress.

      Oh, and to the one beer a month at TGIF, it's more like "sharkey's" is two doors down, and has happy hour from ELEVEN to NINE every weekday, with $2 for 34oz domestic drafts, or 3.75 for 22oz highballs/hurricanes/whatever (long island iced tea in a 22oz size comes to mind).

      Seriously, we come to work and hang out a lot. We play with some of the hardware, etc. We have fun.

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  23. Workplace democracy by da · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read an article about 10 years ago which was about some guy in Brasil, I think it was, whose rubber company was about to go down the toilet financially. So he went to his workforce and said "Here's the situation - we're up shit creek financially, either I make half of you redundant, or we take half pay, until the situation improves - you decide" and put it to the vote. The workforce apparently decided on the half pay option, but productivity soon improved and they could afford to pay their old salary. The guy went on to experiment with introducing worker democracy on a wide scale - salaries, job descriptions etc. and apparently the company became very successful. I've always thought that sounded like an interesting idea, has anyone else heard of this?

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    1. Re:Workplace democracy by anonymousman77 · · Score: 1

      Brazil has this thing I like to call a "unionized workforce".

      TRUE Democracy and parity would NEVER occur without unions. That's why there is no parity here anymore, no unions!

      Think about it before you flame me.

    2. Re:Workplace democracy by saldek · · Score: 1

      Hey, that's exactly what Ayn Rand descibes in Atlas Shrugged. Didn't work out so well there, though.

    3. Re:Workplace democracy by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, nothing says democracy like being forced to join a union.

    4. Re:Workplace democracy by deanj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, dude, but you've never worked in a unionized workplace.

      Getting rid of people that aren't doing their job or are complete assholes is a complete bitch.

      Ever been to a tradeshow where they have unions in the convention center? You can't even plug in a freakin computer, let alone carry one in, without a union guy. If you do, and they catch you at it, they'll close the whole show down until the "problem" is fixed. Oh, and as a bonus, all that work costs you BIG bucks for them to do it.

      Oh, yeah...unions..what a GREAT thing...pffft.

    5. Re:Workplace democracy by anonymousman77 · · Score: 2

      Think about what America was like pre-unions.

      Monopolies existed everywhere
      Railroads were allowed to import Chinese folks and pay them literally in rice ...yet fantastic estates were formed by the few who had 99% of the wealth (Hurst, Rockefeller, Kennedy, et al) while everyone else pretty much lived in poverty.

      After the unions formed, a middle class started emmerging in America. Business started paying good wages. Saftey standards started rising. Standard of living rose dramatically.

      While TODAY'S unions help some lazy people keep their jobs, do you want the alternative?

    6. Re:Workplace democracy by bsiggers · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's pretty well known that if you make decisions as a manager, being (or appearing) to be fair, employee motivation improves. There was an article about this in Harvard Business Review (dead tree version), 2 months ago or so, very interesting. Sorry don't have a link.

    7. Re:Workplace democracy by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The alternative is already here, and has been getting stronger and stronger by the year. Do you really think we aren't currently, and have been, going back to this alternative the past 5 years?

      The middle class of the United States is shrinking faster than ever, and significantly faster than most other democratic countries. We have the smallest percentage of people in our middle class compared to other top democratic countries. The upper class is also shrinking, but becoming more powerfull. The poor people are increasing in numbers like nobody's business. While this might not have anything to do with unions, they (unions) certaintly aren't preventing it.

      I believe unions had their place, but now are pretty much obsolete considering that the coporations have congress people literally, and legally, on their payroll.

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    8. Re:Workplace democracy by ax_42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You might mean the company described in the book Maverick by Ricardo Semler. He took over his dad's company (Semco), started by firing the existing top management and then started experimenting.

      Good read.

    9. Re:Workplace democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shows what Ayn Rand knows, doesn't it?

    10. Re:Workplace democracy by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

      Unions have served their purpose and achieved their goals. Its now time for us all to move on past them.

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    11. Re:Workplace democracy by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      Broke? Are you able to fabricate small, high-quality parts suitable for robotics? E-mail for details.

      Well, I'm having trouble metting rent next month, but I still have all this precision milling machinery from my last job...

      --
      "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
    12. Re:Workplace democracy by anonymousman77 · · Score: 1

      Do you see any way of stopping this (other than another Great Depression and a world war?)

      I hope you're wrong, but I know you're right. :(

      I wonder if people feel this way during every recession?

    13. Re:Workplace democracy by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 1

      Check these first 3 tables...

      Link

      The most interesting table is the one titled
      "Share of Aggregate Income: All races"

      These tables are divided into 5 sections by population of people. Out of all the people in America, 20% have 3.5% of the wealth, 20% have 8.7% of the wealth, 20% have 14.6% of the wealth ... etc ... and the top 20% have 50.1% of the total yearly income. Each column represents the same number of people (except the last column, representing only the top 5%, which is just extra info.), in their respective 1/5th of the spectrum: Lower, Lower-Middle, Middle, Upper-Middle, Upper, and finally, Upper-Upper(5%)

      As you can see, over the years, only the Upper-Middle and Upper class have increased their percentage of total US Income. Middle class, Lower-Middle class, and Lower class have all taken decreases in their paycheck w.r.t. overall combined US Income.

      As you can see, the poorer are getting poorer (Relatively, which is all that matters), and the richer keep getting richer.

      If you tabulate the statistics as represented here, there is no such thing as "middle class shrinking" syndrome as I have described in the above post (because they are equal # of people in each column). And I cannot find any US Census tables which represent their defined middle class size, upper class size, and lower class size. But as has been demonstrated, Since the upper 40% of the people are continually increasing their net worth, and the lower 60% are continually decreasing their net worth, the "middle" Middle class is dispersing left, and the "upper" Middle class is dispersing right. This is in effect how the class structure is polarizing as I described above.

      If anybody can find actual numbers of middle class, lower class, and upper class over the years, I would be interested in seeing them. But they will look similar to what I have described, given the data provided in the above link.

      I'm sorry but I cannot find the article I once read last year about the american middle class shrinking faster than european countries, but I'm quite sure I did read it, and if I happen to find it, I will post it here.

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    14. Re:Workplace democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      As you can see, the poorer are getting poorer (Relatively, which is all that matters), and the richer keep getting richer.
      No, relatively is not all that matters. I'd much rather be poor today than in '47, or certainly a while before that. ``relatively'' is not all that counts---how about something more reasonable like ``ability to feed self cheapest food'' as a better benchmark. Poor people today may have a smaller share of the wealth, but they are much better off than they have been in the past.

      In fact, one might argue that the poor are basically given by society that which will shut them up and make them work at their skill-free jobs. Now, since a skill-free job can be performed by anyone at all then we can see that the pay will probably converge on cost of living for the crappiest life that people are willing to suffer in our society. Perhaps back in '47 when food was much more expensive than it is today, it took more money to food on the table and hence skill-free jobs had to pay a little more.

      There are many ways to interpret those figures, though, and I'd suggest that your [and my] interpretations are probably not accurate enough to make terribly strong statements. And without a substantial amount of extra data about, e.g. cost of living, etc., the bare numbers are almost meaningless.

    15. Re:Workplace democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woah, so it didn't work out as potrayed in a work of fiction. I'm convinced.

    16. Re:Workplace democracy by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 1

      The data very much supports exactly that argument. Everything is relative. If you increased your wealth by $90K one year, 100K the next, 110K after thatetc.. each year, and I increase my wealth by $15K one year, 12K the next, then 10K, etc.. each year, and this is general to the entire population of the United States (being more poor than rich, this is possible, and is what the charts reflect), then the people generating less wealth than the richer person is getting poorer relative to the mean of the wealth. In other words, the poor people are all losing a percentage of the overall wealth, and the richer people are gaining a percentage of the overall wealth. If this trend continues over many years (which it has already done for the last 10+), it will effectively polarize the economic classes in America.
      There is only so much wealth. and it is increasing in size each day due to inflation. According to the charts I have shown, the middle column, and everything to the left is losing money after taking into account the overall added income to the whole of the people.

      Sure, 4.25/hr could get you by if you carefully allocated each penny in your budget in 1995, but today, that ain't getting you anywhere but homeless. So they raised minimum wages to 5.15. Maybe one day someone will raise minimum wage up again, because if they don't, the poorest of the poor will soon be screwed according to current trends.

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    17. Re:Workplace democracy by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 1

      While you make some good points about the cost of living, I still disagree with your basic argument.

      According to the data, the classes of America are polarizing. the upper 40% are getting significantly richer, and the lower 60% are getting only marginally richer.so the graph will have a thin spot in the middle if you do a linear representation of income vs year. That means that there will be very few people making the mean wage in America, and many many people making closer to the extremes.

      Now, while this trend is represented in the table, you do make a good point about living cost. But if you think about it, that will only change the thresholds that seperate the lower class from the poverty level. and the lower class from the eventually relatively non-existant middle class.

      Since in fact the lower class will be getting larger (percentage wise) due to this trend, but without the data to support it, I am willing to bet that the percentage of people below the poverty line will increase, just because of the fact that there will be more percentage of people squished on that side of the spectrum.

      But even if the poverty line is such that nobody gets below it, due to some reason that is irrelevant, You will still have a lopsided and polarized class spectrum. where the middle class is relatively small (compared to today), the lower class has the numbers, and the upper class has the wealth.

      This structure would be somewhat different than today, because the middle class wouldn't be so fat compared to the poles. Even if everyone is above the poverty line, do we really want this kind of class structure in America? I doubt it.

      Unless of course, the trend discontinues, or the government interveans. In which case, all the above would be irrelevant

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    18. Re:Workplace democracy by deanj · · Score: 1

      Yes, I want an alternative, because we live in TODAY, not the yesteryear that union backers always bring up.

      Look at it this way. Tech workers make a lot of money because they have useful skills and (mostly) decent work ethics.

      All without unions.

  24. Get a purpose by musicmaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can't compensate for customers that don't buy anymore. But you can give the company some kind of purpose - so that people don't feel lost anymore.

    A manager could redefine the company so that people see a future for it. It could specialize. People could get trained so that a department becomes better and better. Such a specialization could even help when the layoff go on, because it will improve the chances for a new job.

    Even a low level employee could help building such a view. Try to find collegues gor exchanging ideas and build your own "center of excellence". With a sense of purpose and collaboration even mediocre employees can achieve good results - provided the motivation is there.

    1. Re:Get a purpose by Cy+Guy · · Score: 1
      Try to find colleagues gor exchanging ideas and build your own "center of excellence".

      Here are some ideas that could be pursued intead of layoffs.
      • assign some of the staff the task of developing house training for the rest of the staff.
      • assign some of the staff to thoroughly debug the the current release of your software (or all currently supported releases if it is commercial product) - cut their base pay but give them the opportunity to increase their pay for each bug they find - stupid mistake bugs will be funded in part by having the bonus paid by the coder who made the mistakes and any reviewers who failed to catch it if they are stillon full pay.
      • for each one planned layoff - instead put 4 staff on 3/4 time & pay. Then let them use their work PC and Internet connection for some "good" cause - like coding for an OSS project - during the 10 hours they have been laid off for.


  25. Small gestures and keeping them included by Violet+Null · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Assuming that such things as more money and raises are out, due to budget constraints, you tend to have two options:

    1) Small gestures. If you're a project leader or some other type of manager, take the people who report to you out for lunch whenever a milestone is successfully passed. Or provide free soda. It won't cost that much, compared to, say, the cost of training a replacement. For some companies, it could also be being flexible on the hours slightly (so that people could come in an, and leave, an hour earlier or later). Or allowing them to play Unreal Tournament after business hours. (This may not be a good fit for all companies, though.)

    2) Keeping them included. If something's happening, the employees are going to be hear about it. They can hear about it through the official means, or they can hear about it through rumors. It's better to hear it through official channels; otherwise, rumor-mongering just goes up. If people are going to get laid off, you're much better off being upfront about it -- there'll be uncertainty either way, but at least there won't be the idea that management is hiding something. If possible, present the news with alternatives (see if anyone is willing to work part time instead). The important thing is to let them feel like they have some small amount of control, as opposed to being subject to the whims of fate.

    1. Re:Small gestures and keeping them included by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assuming that such things as more money and raises are out

      Don't assume a raise would help. Money isn't as effective a motivational tool as widely believed. In fact, it can even demotivate, if you were to, for example, get a raise that was smaller than a coworker's.

  26. Improving morale? by BoojiBoy0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Obviously you haven't been getting enough floggings.

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    1. Re:Improving morale? by Sp4rtikuz · · Score: 1

      Like say... case of Guiness and some Flogging Molly?

  27. The Art of Management by Verity_Crux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is an art to managing technical people that makes them feel like their brain is wanted, and their strong, peon-labor back is not the most important part.

    Here are some helps:

    If you assume you know the market better than your technical people, all you'll do is torque them off. Programmers usually know the software market pretty well. They at least can tell the difference from a quality product and a lame one -- something most business people can't seem to figure out.

    If you have to do lame, per-hour contract jobs (ie, SBIR), make sure the people who actually put in the hours get a bit of hourly income in addition to their normal pay. In other words, the management doesn't deserve the Gov's money when I did all the labor for it. And again, nothing motivates people to peon labor like money.

  28. Free beer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Free beer. Done deal.

  29. You answer your own question... by sterno · · Score: 1

    1) Stop laying people off. If you have to make sacrifices, then make them accross the whole oragnization, temporary pay cuts, etc.

    2) Management should make an effort to understand the work that the people are doing.

    Ultimately morale is usually tied to a sense that the company is going in a positive direction and that the smallest underlings are appreciated. You can't fake morale. Company picnics or group bonding experiences are poor substitutes for a real sense of cohesion.

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    1. Re:You answer your own question... by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Interesting
      1) Stop laying people off. If you have to make sacrifices, then make them accross the whole oragnization, temporary pay cuts, etc.

      Or, if you must lay off, act like you don't want to do it.

      I've been through or in six rounds of layoffs at four different companies since I was an intern in '98. The very best handling I've seen was when I was with SGI (the company formerly known as Cray at the time) as an intern.

      First, you could tell that the boss genuinely hated, hated laying off her people and felt like she'd failed them somehow. Second, when the layoffs actually happened, she held a meeting with the survivors to tell us about it so we didn't hear it through the grape vine. Finally, the department took the whole afternoon off. We had the option to go home, but instead we grabbed some beer and a couple of pizzas and went to a local park, played frisbee and hung out (the people who'd gotten laid off were invited too, which I thought was classy).

      At my last company, they laid off like theives in the night. They'd call people in out of the blue, then send out an email apparently designed to scare us all into working harder and longer. One time, we laid off a dozen people and the CEO's wife (who was executive something or other) went out and bought a new Lexus the same day. It's amazing nobody took an AK-47 to that shithole -- they definately had it coming.

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    2. Re:You answer your own question... by rainer_d · · Score: 1

      Do you live in one of those states in the US where - in case the company crashes and lot's of debt is left - they can take everything from the company-owners, except their house and everything that's inside ? ;-)

      Go figure...

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    3. Re:You answer your own question... by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 1

      I think they would park the lexus in the garage in that case, or if the garage is not going to be covered they can always keep it in the living room :)

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    4. Re:You answer your own question... by Jamesie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Second, when the layoffs actually happened, she held a meeting with the survivors to tell us about it so we didn't hear it through the grape vine.

      I can see how that works

      "Can everyone who still works here come to my office for a meeting?"
      "Where are you going Skyshadow?"

    5. Re:You answer your own question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite work email I ever received:

      <snip>Don't forget that you can easily be replaced!</snip>

    6. Re:You answer your own question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1) Stop laying people off. If you have to make sacrifices, then make them accross the whole oragnization, temporary pay cuts, etc.

      BAD idea. In a company of some size there will be lots of dead wood accumulated. You know the type... you've seen Office Space, you know what I'm talking about. The people who can't seem to get anything done, and just sit in meetings all day long.

      At my company there was a performance assessement thingy which put people in categories based on their past performance, meeting goals, finishing projects, etc. All people who found themselves in a particular low achieving category were out of a job by the end of the month. I'm sure there weren't too many complaints.

    7. Re:You answer your own question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I read the original question was also "stop laying people off", but the way I figure to go about it is a bit dif't.

      Simply have the bean counters figure out how many people will have to be canned in order to NOT lay anyone else off (say, do this under the penalty of said bean-counter being first in line if more layoffs are needed). It'll be ugly & suck, but tell the remaining employees that their jobs are now actually safe.

      If layoffs do become a neccessity again, take your time and make a game out of it. Everyone loves to watch survivor; why not have contests & see who gets 'voted off the island' every day for a few weeks. If it can boost ratings, why wouldn't it do the same for employee morale?

    8. Re:You answer your own question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. When the layoffs get to the point where you're cutting meat, perhaps, but most of the layoffs I've seen cull a lot of deadwood. Yes, they hurt morale, but not as much as me looking across the aisle and thinking, "I took a pay cut so that moron could keep his job?"
      Folklore says that a really good employee is 10X as productive as an average one, and speaking for myself, it'll hurt my morale a lot more to take a pay cut than to see a couple of people 1/10 as productive as me let go.

  30. Give 'em all Stickers by big_groo · · Score: 2, Funny
    They'd appreciate these...

  31. Treat your people like professionals by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This is an easy one:

    Treat your people like professionals, not children. Tell them what you need them to do by when (set reasonable expectations, not impossibilities), tell them what their assets and resources are, and then leave them the hell alone to work. Don't hold enless status meetings, don't hassle them about what hours they're working, etc. If someone's struggling or not doing their work, you'll have to deal with that, but don't treat that as the default situation.

    My last "bad" company was constantly under deadline pressure. My development VP responded to this my having daily status meetings, wasting an hour a day restating what was happening and getting status info that he could have gotten automatically if he'd just learned to use the damned change tracking system. They'd also give you shit if you tried to go home before 9 PM (even if your work was done; you should be "testing or something"). What did I learn there? Treat people like irresponsible children and that's how they'll act.

    So, basically, don't overmanage and don't be a dick. Treat your people with respect that you'll get it in return.

    There's one more thing I'd suggest, but in my experience this is either something you're good at or something you're not: I'm a firm believer in team building, but in an informal way -- when you go to grab lunch, ask your people to come with you. If you're going to grab a beer after work, invite your people along. In my experience, this works great and has a lot better effect than going to Dave & Busters once a quarter or something.

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    1. Re:Treat your people like professionals by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      My development VP responded to this my having daily status meetings, wasting an hour a day restating what was happening and getting status info that he could have gotten automatically if he'd just learned to use the damned change tracking system.

      Management tends not to like automated status, issue, priority, and progress tracking systems for some reason. I don't know whether they are Luddites, or just prefer the "face to face" approach.

    2. Re:Treat your people like professionals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      There's absolutely nothing wrong with a face-to-face approach. Nothing. Many times, you'll get a better picture of what you need to know.

      If you're on a deadline, however, there *is* something very wrong with wasting five+ hours a week on status meetings. That's just plain moronic and lazy.

    3. Re:Treat your people like professionals by n3k5 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Tell them what you need them to do by when (set reasonable expectations, not impossibilities), tell them what their assets and resources are, and then leave them the hell alone to work.
      This can be horribly overdone. I once had a boss who didn't come into my office to see how things are going a single time in months. He didn't reply to e-mails most of the time, so I had to ambush him in the hallway if I needed a desicion from him, to which he usually replied 'do what you want, I'm sure you'll make it right'. The problem with that wasn't that I was unable to work on my own, but that I had the feeling that no one was interested in my output and that it didn't matter wheter I did anything right.
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    4. Re:Treat your people like professionals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There would seem to be a pretty big difference between "let your people do their thing" and "avoid your own job and go golfing".

    5. Re:Treat your people like professionals by len_harms · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was asked the same question the orginal poster was asking just the other day.

      I gave the person almost exactly the same answer you did. His response, you'll love this. OH thats not possible.

      Give me the choice of what I do with my time. Let me have some say in the crazy deadlines your coming up with. Do not bitch at me when I do not come in on the weekend. For every one of those it was 'oh thats not going to happen'. I looked back at him and said you are not open to any sort of change and little 'fun side' things will not help moral. You do not respect us, or our families, or our time. If I see no respect coming from managment even when I give it to them. I am ending up not really caring what happens.

      Latter on that day he even told me that I do not care what other people have to say. I always listen and am willing to change my views if I am wrong. What I could not get through to him was that NO ones opinions are respected where we work.

  32. freedom by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps your company already works this way, but my company gives it's workers a lot of freedom. I come in and leave as I please, with no fear of reprisal. This leaves me relaxed in the office, and I have never resented by bosses because of it.

    Another tip is to take your co-workers out to a bar ;)

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  33. Coding contest by srowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Our company's engineering department runs an annual "coding contest" with a nice prize or two. Last time, teams of two had two days to build the fastest-running solution to a series of problems.

    It sounds kind of gimmicky, but there's apparently nothing like a little competition and a prize to get the software engineers' blood pumping. It was really all the discussion about the problems before and after that was so great... it did a lot to get different groups of people talking like they never had before.

    It worked brilliantly as a team-building exercise for engineers. Heh, and maybe it helped the management spot the engineers crazy enough to spend the time on the contest, and win.

    1. Re:Coding contest by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Ask your boss if he/she has read a book called 'Peopleware'. It was out of print when I read it, but a quick google shows that there's a second edition out now. It's the best book on management theory I've ever seen. This was one of the ideas it put forward.

      If you can get hold of a copy, it's well worth the read. It contains some very entertaining stories, some true and some made up to illustrait a point. My favourite is where Alexander Graham Bell is trying to sell his new 'Bell-o-phone', in a modern era which does not have telephones:

      Boss: So, if my employee is busy when this Bell-o-phone rings, what happens? Does it just stop and let them get on with their work?
      Bell: No! That's the best part! It keeps on ringing and ringing until someone answers.
      Boss: Thank you, the door's that way.

      Moral: interrupting your staff is not a good way of making them productive. Another (true) story talks of a CEO who walked into a room full of employees, and signed a major deal without reading it. When queried by one of his lawyers he replied 'I don't read contracts, that's what I pay you guys for.' Moral: Treat your employees with respect. Don't try to do their jobs for them. Your lawyers should know more about contracts than you, and your coders should know more about software development than you. This is why you employ specialists. Their job is to make sure that products work, yours is to make sure the company works.

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    2. Re:Coding contest by catch23 · · Score: 1

      I had something similar to this, only it wasn't a contest. It was more of an incentive-based bet. My boss challenged me to finish the product by a certain date we both agreed on, and if I did meet the deadline, he's buy me whatever LCD monitor in my cube. (normally this couldn't be done since our company only buys products from IBM and I wanted a studio display :) )

    3. Re:Coding contest by booch · · Score: 1
      Another (true) story talks of a CEO who walked into a room full of employees, and signed a major deal without reading it. When queried by one of his lawyers he replied 'I don't read contracts, that's what I pay you guys for.'

      And that man was ..... Ken Lay of Enron.

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  34. the beatings will continue until morale improves by Stinking+Pig · · Score: 4, Funny

    Random and capricious firings, demotions, reorganizations, and project cancellations help. So do bamboo canes. I would also look into 50% pay cuts for anyone who isn't management. Keep the staff isolated from each other and the outside world, make sure no one knows how the company is really doing in presales negotiation or postsales execution, and then you'll have a really tight rein on them.

    Oh yeah, mustn't forget Gestapo-like surveillance techniques and frequent reminders that you don't trust your employees not to squander company time and resources! Crack down hard on anyone who likes to mail jokes around, block access to humor sites and job-boards, and occassionally reject or alter outbound mails "by accident". Finish this off by identifying your employees by number first, name second -- a login and email address like jc7385@company.com really lets them know how much you care.

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  35. Sometimes the best solution to a morale problem... by Fapestniegd · · Score: 1
  36. Hmmm... by Squidgee · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Well, considering you most likely have a small quantity of money, token gestures may be required.

    First off, I'd _allow_ and/or _encourage_ Geek activities (This _is_ a Geek workforce we're talking about, no?). Say, maybe you could have an after hours LAN party? And of course you'd need to allow /.ing, etc, during work hours. of course, not to excess.

    Also, assure the rest of them (Falsely or not) that their jobs are secure, that the company needs them, etc etc. THis tends to be important. Also, reward productivity. Maybe $50 for a good worker? Not expensive, but it will boost moral.

    Hope this helps!

    1. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do NOT assure them their jobs are safe. Be honest with them.
      If you assure them, and then some get fired, you look like a liar (because you are!).
      If you are honest with them, it'll improve the morale much more quickly.
      "I can't assure you your jobs are safe, but we're doing everything we can to protect you guys."

  37. Don't underestimate the little things. by taliver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When a boss needs to cut things to show he's ding things to keep costs under control, he invariably heads for 'the little things' first. Like that espresso machine. Or the supply of bottled water. Or Mountain Dew. In many cases these are what employees will consider made the place 'livable', and when the perceived quality of life drops, morale soon goes out the door as well. Especially when all the old guys tell all the new guys "Back in the day we had blah-di-blah blah"

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  38. been there by jhagler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I worked for a company that dot-comed in a blaze of glory, but even through the layoffs we managed to keep morale relatively high by simply showing the employees that we valued them.

    I was a low level manager in the NOC and found that by keeping the employees up on what was going on in the big picture, allowing them to have input in some of the decisions which directly impacted them, and not being afraid to roll up my sleves and work side-by-side with them they respected me more and were always willing to go the extra mile for me. The most detrimental thing to their morale were the company meetings where the C*O's tried to rah-rah the troops with buzzwords and press releases. People like to feel as though they have some controll over thir future and they know that upper management is the proverbial irresistable force, so keep them away from that and help them focus on the things they can change for the better.

    In short the best thing for morale is the respect of your direct manager and as little of the corporate crap as possible.

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  39. Win the Lotto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then get on the company PA system and tell everyone to fuck off, especially your boss

  40. Not gonna happen by xagon7 · · Score: 1

    People see layoffs.. takes YEARS and new policies and management..possibly NEVER, to improve company morale. It would ALWAYS be in the back of my head.

  41. Simple Solutions by drayzel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Having problems with negative talk during lunches?

    Get rid of the lunch breaks! If your local labor laws won't alow that, then just make sure each employee has a different lunch time. You may have to vary start times to fit them all in, but that is why the day has 24 hours.

    People complaining around the water cooler?

    Remove the water cooler! If the local health laws require a source of water, then intall a money collection device. People will think twice about gathering around for a BS sessions if it costs them $.25 a swallow.

    Negatiove E-mails making the rounds on your corporate network?

    Are their computers REALLY needed?
    Isn't web development really more of an artistic thing? I think only one person would really need to have a computer, the rest can just draw there ideas on paper with crayons and submit them to the guy with the computer for entry. And those silly PHP or Perl monkeys spend WAY too much time changing code, tweaking , degugging and stuff. I think most bugs are there because they are not careful or they are poor typists. You could hire a touch typists from you local high school to enter all their code for the day in the evening. Tha way they would be sure to be accurate the first time. Your empyees will be so busy they won't have time to have morale.

    You are correct in your assumption that lay offs cause bad morale. NEVER LAY OFF EMPLOYS! Alway make thier job so horrible, so degrading, so painful that they just quit. It will save you a bundle on unemployment fees and severence packages. If you planned ahead you are allready located in an area like Utah, that has a horribly depressed tech sector so a few employees will stay because they know that the only other oppurtunity is flippiung burgers at McD's.

    ~Z

    1. Re:Simple Solutions by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 3, Funny

      One of the best ways to improve the moral of a group of employees is to fire those with low moral. This will obviously increase the average moral level.

      Example. Suppose you have 10 employees, 9 which have a moral level judged to equal 5, and one with a level of 1. The moral level is 4.6. Fire the guy with a moral level of 1, and the average moral level is now 5, roughly a 10% improvement.

    2. Re:Simple Solutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a very rough 10%...

    3. Re:Simple Solutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny thing is that my friend's company did just that -- gave every employee a moral ranking and then fired the bottom 20%. (He successfully argued to his boss that he was actually Moral Level 7 rather than Level 3..)

  42. Do what you enjoy doing... by vwpau227 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the key to enjoying work is to love what you do. I work for a startup and absolutely enjoy what I do, which includes creating, designing and documenting wireless communications systems. Sure, the pay could be better, and sometimes I wish that the company was better funded, but I think what I get from work is more than just a paycheque. I get to do things that I want to do, and work on special projects where I see I can make an impact. And that has made all the difference.

    So what can employees do to make their working experience beter? How abou finding opportunities in your own position where you can make a contribution. How about finding a different job that you like and where you can do what you want to do? If there aren't any positions around, find new opportunities for your skills and experience and start your own business. Everyone has special skills and knowledge that are applicable to the marketplace. The important step is finding and indentifying these opportunities.

    I figure I've been quite lucky in the grand scheme of things to be where I am, and I acknowledge that. However, I think that we all can do our part to find work that is stimulating and rewarding.

    Kahil Gibran in his piece "The Prophet" wrote that "Work is love made visible. And if you cannot work with love but only with distaste, it is better that you should leave your work and sit at the gate of the temple and take alms of those who work with joy."

    Gibran continues, "For if you bake bread with indifference, you bake a bitter bread that feeds but half man's hunger. And if you grudge the crushing of the grapes, your grudge distils a poison in the wine."

    The key to enjoyment at work is to find a place where you can do what you love to do. And that in turn will enhance your morale.

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  43. Longer run??? by siasl · · Score: 1

    Isn't that only until the next quarterly report?

  44. Just do what I did. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are unhappy in your job. Quit and then make your own future. The companies need their employees when they all start quiting to do their own thing maybe they will learn. Or more to the point, hopefully they will cease to exist. Remember all companys are run by morons.

  45. The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by mekkab · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, I agree with you totally. However, beoynd the web development/+5 years java experience/visual basic etc. etc. market, there exists a seedy underbelly to the IT world. That is the land of Legacy Systems.

    There exist systems so large and arcane, that it takes a developer the better part of a calendar year just to understand some basics of how the system works (and I've seen others struggle for longer). There is ADA. There may be FORTRAN. And there is a whole lot of assembler.

    These are systems that have their own operating systems written on top of the operating system. These have components that average 100,000 lines of code each- with another 100,000 lines of code for the test harness. Now multiply that by 12 support components. And we haven't even gotten to the actual APPLICATIONS that run on top!

    For projects like these, management does have to watch their back. They don't have lots of money to keep useless developers on, but once a new project ramps up they say 'oh, we need developers who have a lot of experience with our system' hahaha! Hire back those guys you fired!

    It is companies like these (think: big ol' gov't contracts) that have to play this dancing game of shelling out some money for pizza every now and then to keep people happy because if they let go of everyone now (or piss them off enough so they leave), they won't be able to staff up in time when the new projects come, and they won't be able to complete the new projects (because they are aggressively scheduled) and they never make a dime on new projects again.

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    1. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by Gortbusters.org · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is true, but some of those old legacy systems have evolved into new fancy leading-edge systems. The one loop-whole is that a lot of the legacy code is still under the covers. Even understanding the legacy systems to write applications can be a differentiator when it comes time for employment.

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    2. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by divisionbyzero · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, and what is the biggest focus in IT right, now? Getting rid of these exceptions in order to cut costs. I could justify keeping around a couple of extra Java/XML guys for future growth, but my first priority is to get the legacy folks on-board with something standards compliant, or at least less arcane, or get rid of them. And those folks are followed closely to the door by those people that refuse to share knowledge. You make yourself indispensable by being a leader, not by hoarding knowledge. In reality, nobody is indispensable.

      On the other hand, as far as hiring and firing in this market goes... A lot of people seem to have bought into the myth that employees are interchangeable. Maybe to a certain extent someone's technical skills are interchangeable, and that's debatable, but their personality and their "soft skills" are not. Believe it or not, soft skills matter in every part of the company. So, getting the right person is often more important than getting exactly the right skill set.

      It's odd to see how opinion seems to break down into extremes, like indispensable or interchangeable, in adverse conditions, when, really, any good manager with a good sense of perspective doesn't believe in either of those opinions.

    3. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by ArsonPanda · · Score: 3, Funny

      really, any good manager with a good sense of perspective...

      wohaaa... those exist? i thought they were just a myth.

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    4. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just close the whole fucking company? Best way to cut costs I can think of.

      Sonofabitch, these people are greedy.

    5. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time and time again, those "indispensable" legacy systems with all of thier "indispensable" workers are dumped and replaced with something off-the-shelf managed by EDS or some other gang of contractors.

      Yeah, it sucks for the organizaiton, but in a year nobody's shedding any tears for the old system.

      But, poor ol Indispensable Joe Cobol is still pounding the streets with a resume that looks like a cruel joke.

    6. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by aallan · · Score: 1

      ...but my first priority is to get the legacy folks on-board with something standards compliant, or at least less arcane, or get rid of them.

      I don't believe you've ever actually worked for a really big organisation that has legacy systems, I work for a bunch of people that have just tried to do exactly what you recommend.

      All new development is in Java, with all the apps talking to each other in XML via SOAP. But the legacy code is still there...

      We have a few million lines of Fortran 77 and C sitting around, 20 years real time with somewhere between 10 and 50 staff (at peak) churning out code full time for the entire life of the project, so thats what, going to be around 500 man years of effort, more?

      We've had to go out and write SOAP wrappers for it all so it can talk to the new stuff. In some cases we've had to write JNI wrappers so we can use some of the old stuff directly, its so critical we can't get rid of it.

      The legacy stuff was originally written for the VAX, and has been ported to SunOS/Solaris, Digital UNIX/Tru64 and now Linux. Its fundamentally impossible to get rid of unless you chuck huge amounts of money and effort at the project and nobody is going to do that so we can write some software that can do exactly the same thing as the software we have now.

      Legacy software, and people to support it, is going to be around for a long, long, time. Get used to it...

      Al.
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    7. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by divisionbyzero · · Score: 1

      You're right I haven't worked at a really large corporation (i.e. more than 10,000 employees)... but that really has nothing to do with my point. I'll admit that there may be some areas where it is essential to keep legacy apps, and I think there are some good reasons to keep old code and proprietary solutions (e.g. security), but on the whole I think larger companies are moving away from them because of the cost of maintaining them. We may be thinking of different aspects of a company's operations. I am thinking of supply chain and event management software, manufacuring software, etc...

    8. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by jschrod · · Score: 1
      Believe this guy, he's right.

      Most of my customers are multi-national companies, financial institutions. Definitively more than 10,000 employees, alone the IT staff is around this number if one includes external contractors. We're currently working on COBOL code from the 70s, and there 1000s of person years in that code.

      Several of our customers try to replace their legacy systems with modern ones. All these projects are years overdue and have cost already eight-to-nine-digit numbers. None of them has gone live successfully. Most of them cannot handle the sheer number of transactions. (There is something to say for COBOL on mainframes... :-)

      Legacy systems are here to stay, and here to provide work for those who know to handle the old hosties.

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      Joachim

      People don't write Manifestos any more -- what's going on in this world? [Frank Zappa]

    9. Re:The exceptions... (and they DO exist!) by divisionbyzero · · Score: 1

      Maybe the new systems will be legacy systems by the time they are done? Seriously though, there must be a business opportunity here for a company. I know some companies do focus on this segment of the market (e.g. EDS's contract with the U.S. Navy, etc...), but it doesn't sound like anyone is doing it really well.

  46. Things to do, and not to by deanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First off, if the company continues to lay off people in round after round, don't keep your head in the sand because you could be next. Be sure and have some feelers out for a new place to go NOW if it all possible...who knows, you could end up with a better job.

    I've worked at places like you described. Unless the company, or at the very least, your immediate management itself commits to making it a better place to work, it's not going to happen.

    Things the company can do (not in any order here):

    1) Free drinks
    2) Flex time
    3) Comp-time for overtime work
    4) Food brought in
    5) Lighten up on the dress code
    6) Flexibility on web access
    7) Promotions.... even if it's just in title
    8) Explain what the hell the plan is.
    9) Increased vacation time

    Things the company should NOT do:

    1) Organized pot-luck (how depressing)
    2) Hand out company-logoed crap

    I'm sure there are more for each list. I just can't think of any at the moment.

    You and the rest of the folks you work with can do things outside the company (go out to movies, play sports after work, lan-parties...whatever you're all into...you get the idea), and that'll help the moral with the folks you work with, but it's not going to help with the place you work.

    Again, the downside of all this, if moral is great, and the company continues to lay people off, getting ripped out of there at some point for a layoff will hit you like a ton of bricks. And one hell of a lot more because you liked to work there.

    1. Re:Things to do, and not to by WalletBoy · · Score: 1
      Things the company should NOT do:
      1) Organized pot-luck (how depressing)

      mmmmmmmmmmmm....Organized pot-luck....rrrrrrrglglglglge
    2. Re:Things to do, and not to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Things the company can do (not in any order here):

      1) Free drinks
      2) Flex time
      3) Comp-time for overtime work
      4) Food brought in
      5) Lighten up on the dress code
      6) Flexibility on web access
      7) Promotions.... even if it's just in title
      8) Explain what the hell the plan is.
      9) Increased vacation time

      Take a look at this list - 2/3 of the suggestions involve something that will have almost zero financial impact on the company. However, each of these suggestions involve the company giving up some small amount of control over their employees.

      I think this gets to the root of the problem. There are companies where management is capable of treating their employees as professional, working adults. There are other companies where management is convinced that the employees are, at best, barely-manageable children.

      Surprise! When you treat your employees with respect, they in turn respect you. Dressing up your lack of respect in "business reasons" doesn't hide anything - your employees will know how you really feel about them, and will react accordingly.

    3. Re:Things to do, and not to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of my companys did this. They are bankrupt, but I loved it there. I wouldn't have left if I hadn't really, really needed to.

  47. Morale by spoonist · · Score: 2, Funny

    Best thing for morale?

    How about you quit?

    After a few months of you still unsuccessfully job searching, everyone at the company will feel really appreciative that they still have their jobs. This will vastly improve morale!

    Also you can return periodically to regale them with hilarious job interview anecdotes.

  48. Fixer Upper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ALE AND WHORES!!!

  49. Moments of Absolute Joy on the Job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Employers should work to incorporate more of these Moments of Absolute Joy on the Job into every work day.

  50. fish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'm sick of it already but my company along with a lot of others swear by this book/film/crap

    http://www.charthouse.com/product_film_fp.asp

    1. Re:fish by SampsonAlmighty · · Score: 1

      The fish thing is beautiful for managers. It pretty much states that if your morale is low, its your fault. They just buy a couple of those books, make you read them, show you the video and their job is done.

  51. foosball and airhockey by joeldg · · Score: 1

    woo woo.. I like fruit pies.

  52. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by WickedClean · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And don't take away the casual dress policy (if you have one). Nobody wants to have to wear a damn tie just to sit behind a desk all day. It makes no sense.

    I was in a healthcare-related tech company that went under and in the last couple of months, you could see it coming. The bosses had no clue what they were doing and wanted all of us smaller people to come up with AND execute the big ideas.

    Maybe the business should offer some info on how to make a great looking resume.

    --
    ...All I can say is that my life is pretty strange...
  53. Stop trickle layoffs by XNormal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is almost nothing worse for morale.

    Management may make one last round of layoffs, if really necessary, and then set a challenging goal and declare that there will be no more layoffs for one year (unless someone is really not getting any work done, of course).

    --
    Stop worrying about the risks of nuclear power and start worrying about the risks of not using nuclear power.
    1. Re:Stop trickle layoffs by hibiki_r · · Score: 1

      That's the best idea I've read yet. Morale might be better off if the copmany does "aggressive" layoffs, and if business is better than expected, hiring back some of the former employees.

      It worked pretty well at the pace I work. When we started seeing people rehired, morale went up dramatically

  54. Turning around the company...from the small side by Spooker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My own experience is with a company that started with 4 developers and 3 management types...we got up to a whopping 18 people at our highest (only 8 of those webheads) and now we have 3...morale in my company was the lowest that people quit in batches...all thanks to a management that didn't pay attention to what the developers had to say...we were just slaves that cost too much :)

    In a way, thankfully, the owners woke up and ripped the company to shreds after finding out what was happening...now we are three developers...and yes we went from 40 hour weeks to 70 hour weeks along with our salaries dropping by as much as 60%...but we are loving it...we went from being developers with absolutely no control of what we did to developers ready to conquer the world...

    It's not about team-building, it's not about pats on the back, it's not about high salaries (but high salaries don't hurt )...it's about making a difference in a world that is regaining some of the idealism we thought was lost...open-source projects lets everyone be the king of software...watching a feature you dreamed up make it into the site or the software is better any day than having your boss give you a peptalk about doing a good job...

    For those who read this and are not sure where I was going or where I went, you're not alone...I'm not sure either ;) but I think I outlined the points I wanted to share that make me the work-a-holic that I am...one who enjoys giving tech support just as much as getting that new delphi component to work exactly the way I dreamed last night at 3am and then decided to code at 4am...

  55. The solution could be as easy as a box of tic-tacs by Linux-based-robots · · Score: 4, Funny

    [excerpt from Dilbert strip] ...
    Dilbert: Any idea why morale is so low?
    Wally: We think it's your breath.

  56. Do not tolerate "Dead Wood" by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I timed out on big companies and corporate BS about 6 months ago, having worked for 3 big companies ( > 2000 employees each) and never coming particularly close to "job satisfaction".

    The one thing that most annoyed me, considering myself to be a good, honest, hard worker, was the fact that there were people at all these companies who were not, and were not sacked.

    Why should I turn up to work everyday and work my ass off, to pay not only my own salary, but that of idle layabouts who do nothing to earn theirs.

    That and too much documentation.

    I now work for myself, so I only have to worry about myself becoming dead wood, and I don't do any documentation :o)

  57. Try gaming by n1ywb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At my last job, we were required to play at least one game of fooseball per day, and we had an office-wide Counter Strike game almost every day after work. Even the vice prez played. It was really great for morale and team togetherness.

    Also think about what kind of extra services you can easily offer your employees using existing resources. Set up a webserver where employees can host personal web sites, for example.

    --
    -73, de n1ywb
    www.n1ywb.com
    1. Re:Try gaming by n1ywb · · Score: 1

      I forgot to mention that during the summer we also had weekly cookouts/softball games against other local businesses. We played Vermont Public Television and My Web Grocier a lot.

      --
      -73, de n1ywb
      www.n1ywb.com
    2. Re:Try gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They only hire losers.

      And that's probably not a joke either. These places exist -- when they interview people they secretly evaluating if he/she's a good LAN Gamer that will "fit in" and "be one of us" and "be my friend". Sorta like the fraternity in Revenge of The Nerds.

    3. Re:Try gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft, anyone?

    4. Re:Try gaming by for(;;); · · Score: 1
      > At my last job, we were required to play at
      > least one game of fooseball per day,

      This reminds me of the Mr. Show parody of Paul Allen. The fake Paul Allen would force his employees to take endless Tofutti breaks and lecture them on the glory of "imagineering."

      The management's hearts may be in the right place, but foosball-at-gunpoint seems like it would get old eventually. Our company: "Where Ideas Can Hang Out...And Do Whatever!" This sort of thing can make one's gagging hard to control.

      --

      "Whatever happened to fair use?"
      -- Duff-Man
    5. Re:Try gaming by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Sounds like fun, but I'll bet if you multiplied the number of employees in your company by 10, you'd end up with something like this:

      Memorandum 803-A : This memorandum addresses the issue of "camping."

      Distribution: All employees (especially our illustrious vice president).

      "Camping" is a term used by some players of Counter-Strike and other games, to describe the practice of finding a location near an important "item," and waiting to "ambush" your "opponent." This practice is generally frowned upon as unfair, and not sportsmanlike.

      Management has set up a "Camping Support Hotline," where you can call and report unsportsmanlike activity in your corporate games. Just call 1-800-FRAGGED, and be ready to report the perpitrator, time of incident, and specifics of the situation. Also report your ping time and server name, if available.

      Together, we can make our daily Counter-Strike game fun and enjoyable.

      For further information on proper use of Counter-Strike slang, please read the following resource:

      http://solair.eunet.yu/~kimy/cstrike/english/slang .html

      Please respond, indicating that you have read and understood this memo.

      --

      You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!

  58. sicko by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course you still have a job. You don't think anything else exists. If money isn't all that important then your time should be. For the love of God enjoy your "life". One day you will look back and say "I had so much power, but that didn't matter either".

  59. Let them work from home from time to time by ubeans · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My boss allows me to work from home on Mondays and Fridays. I avoid a long, stressful commute to work, and I save 40% on gasoline. Overall my productivity has increased, and I feel better.

  60. Demming's work in Japan by mekkab · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do some reasearch on Demming and the paradigm shift from the factory model of production.

    The more workers feel like they "own" the company; they are proud of it and understand their contributions and sacrifices, the better their output.

    This also has a tie-in with business process. The more that business process reflects the way that workers actually work, the more people are willing to comply with it.

    --
    In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
    1. Re:Demming's work in Japan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a couple of good reasons why factory workers in Japan produce certain level of quality. I'll list a few...

      1. Most of them are married and have children; even if they don't have motivation to become super stars, they cannot do badly because they have to take care of their wife and kids (most Japanese women don't work and stay home; full-time housewife)

      2. Companies can select people based on age LEGALLY. They can also select employees based on sex; this is illegal but is accepted socially. This enables employees to select those who are male, married, having young children and not so educated so that they have rare chance of moving up to upper management.

      If you call this good management, I don't know what to say...

    2. Re:Demming's work in Japan by penguin_dance · · Score: 1

      Of course in Japan, layoffs are looked upon as a company failure. Here, they make the company stock go up.

      --
      If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
  61. no easy answers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My oberservations (UK)....

    The worst boss is one with a chip on their shoulder because they are a boss; they tend to not talk to their people and make political based decissions to further thier career.

    The best boss is "part of the team", they get involved, understand the problems, make decissions to impove the buisness / team.

    Social activities are great for breaking down cross team walls. I once worked at a company which was stuck in the middle of no-where and everyone drove miles to get to work. There was no social life as a result. I really missed talking to other teams and understanding their problems, and for others to understand my problems.

    I've never understood why people moan about external contractors.
    1. If you think they are getting paid too much stop moaning and be a contractor! Oh you like the stability of a being a a permie...
    2. External contractors generally provide a lot of benefits. They have seen it all before, got the t-shirt etc. You can get a lot of great advice from contractors.
    3. When you hire a crap contractor, sack them! I have worked with too many contractors who cant code for toffee, the management know they cant code and they are kept on until their contract comes to an end.

    by 2p
    Al

    1. Re:no easy answers. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I have worked with too many contractors who cant code for toffee

      Have you seen any contractors who will code for toffee? I've known a few people who will code for cola, but never for toffee.

      --
      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
  62. Re:liquor and whores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you're a lying bastard. Go to hell.

  63. Nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I work for a very large computer and printer manufacturer (can't say which one, but the initials are HP), and it's so far been my experience that the company isn't at all interested in morale. Why? They don't have to be. With so many people unemployed, they can get away with neglecting or even mistreating the employees and hide behind "you're just lucky to have a job". Anyone who gets fed up and quits is a bonus for the company, because they don't have to worry about paying any severance package as they would for a layoff.

    This may save them a few pennies in the short term, but once economic prospects improve, they're going to lose a lot of good employees who have long memories.

    1. Re:Nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked for the same company, in a call center, and you couldn't be more right. Morale wasn't something even considered by management, we were constantly having breaks cut, shifts extended, and so on.

      Needless to say, turnover was horribly high, with most people lasting less than a year before quiting.

  64. Mod this tw@ down to -10^googolplex! by titzandkunt · · Score: 1

    Just listen to yourself.

    Bona-fide middle management material or what?

    T&K.

    --
    Political language ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable...
  65. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by Gortbusters.org · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is soooo true. I have flex hours, I can work 6am-2pm, 2pm-10pm, or 9-5. I can work at home, or my office, thanks to things like a VPN and Avaya IP Softphone.

    When your work load starts to be equal to that of 2 or 3 (or more!) head count, and you know that if you push yourself that you can do it... there are a few things that happen: 1) you realize that doing this work will save your job for the months to come so you do it, and 2) you realize that your boss doesn't really care if you sit in an office or the recliner in your home... as long as the work gets done the boss will be as happy as pig in shit.

    --
    --------
    Free your mind.
  66. What have we done to improve morale? by blair1q · · Score: 1

    We've instituted a revolving-door policy for the productive workers.

    Our managers and shareholders have never been happier.

  67. Got a lemon? Make Lemonade! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Remember:
    "When the going gets tough, the tough get going!
    Cheer up, chippermonks. Take a "can do" attitude and you will get through anything. The losers are the whiners and complainers. Make your own opportunity. In a flock of sad sacks and nay sayers, the spirited optimist will always stand out for recognition and promotion. Now get to it!
    1. Re:Got a lemon? Make Lemonade! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      suck our collective asses.

  68. work is tough? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    huh, welcome to the real world

  69. Only one way to change the situation... by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    Leave.


    In my experience, trust in management can only accrue slowly over many years, but management can burn up that trust in a few months. When the staff no longer trusts the management - that's why morale collapses; and unless you replace most or all of the management, it will not recover for many years.

  70. My company's motto by techstar25 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "The way to an engineer's heart is through his/her stomach." It'a all about lots and lots of cookies.

    You should also try loosening up the dress code. At my company (govt comm software and hardware, 1000+ employees) the normal dress for engineers is jeans, sneakers, and a polo shirt. A lot of people even get away with jeans and t-shirts.

    Try compressed work weeks which allow employees to work more hours in fewer days than the usual 8-hour per day schedule. The "4/10" work week is where employees work 10 hours per day over four days. My company uses the 9/80 work week which occurs over a 2-week period as follows: employees work seven 9-hour days in a 2-week period, one 8-hour day and then receive one "free" day off every other week. We have every other Friday off. It only takes a couple of weeks working 9 hours a day before you don't even notice that extra hour a day, and you'll never want to go back to the old schedule.

    1. Re:My company's motto by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 1

      My company uses the 9/80 work week which occurs over a 2-week period as follows: employees work seven 9-hour days in a 2-week period, one 8-hour day and then receive one "free" day off every other week.

      What a great deal, you're only working 71 hours every two weeks!

      Actually I think you meant to say that you work EIGHT 9-hour days, one 8-hour day, and then one free day off. That adds up to 80 hrs every two weeks.

    2. Re:My company's motto by FreshFunk510 · · Score: 1

      I have a bunch of friends on the compressed work schedule but that would probably not work for programmers/IT since they usually work 9-10 hours everyday.

      --


      "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
  71. Interesting.. by gr33nlantern · · Score: 1

    I also work for a hefty little internet company. Our main webpage is homesnet.com. I know what he means about the whole looking over your shoulder thing. Always trying to make sure that you can impress the boss in a way that the other guy can't. And also if you make a small mistake (like today i deleted some attachments of pictures we were sent to put up on a page) it's just downright nervewrecking.

  72. Convert to Islamic Law by Baldrson · · Score: 0, Troll
    The best way to improve corporate morale is to convert en masse to Islamic law. Then you get to have the pleasure of watching managers flogged in public from time to time.

    Now, while it is true that low level employees will get flogged from time to time, consider how close their current situation is to that already.

    Do the tradeoff godamit! Are you a pussy or an engineer?

  73. I Quit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That turned out to be the best way to improve company moral. It also improved my moral.

    I was such a good complainer, they put me on a team that was directed to manage both the west coast development and east coast sales and support. What did I find out? Improving a corporate structure is a fruitless experience.

    Working for myself IS sometimes a pain in the ass. Too much paperwork and sometimes I'm forced to invent an imaginary boss, as being the sole magilla can get tiring. But at least the fruits of my labor are my own. I can live with myself at night. I wake up to challenges just like before, but the dead-end of tilting at corporate windmills is over.

  74. Fire Your Management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If they can go down from 500 to 200 in a year, and if they are unable to maintain a honest, open atmosphere throughout the company, then THEY are the problem. Why don't you request that management share the business plan with the rest of the company so that everyone can work toward a common goal (of course, they probably haven't touched the business plan since the last time they got funding)?

  75. How To Win Friends and Influence People by shfted! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I highly suggest you read the book How To Win Friends and Influence People . I don't have time to write a review, but there are a couple at the Amazon page. Basically, this book will teach you how to lead people and get them to do what you would like them to do.

    --
    He who laughs last is stuck in a time dilation bubble.
  76. Good companies stick to principles--always by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The software (and hardware) market is full of so many highly-qualified people, most with years of experience, that employers have little to no incentive to care whether their current employees are happy or not. If they're not, they can either leave or get fired, and it will be easy to replace them, probably with someone more qualified and/or with more experience, who will work for as much or maybe less money.

    It costs approximately $10-15k (before you spend dime one in salary) to hire your average full-time employee in America. (This is an average, not a locked-in-cement dollar amount... It includes advertising, agency efforts, the manager's time, the HR manager's time, how much time it takes to sift through 2,000 resumes for a $22k per year helpdesk job, any training they may need to provide to get the new guy up to speed, drug test, background check, reference check, etc...)

    Given this fact, in the long run, it costs MORE to have high turnover in a company than you could ever spend on treating your staff like human beings... I'm not talking about pool tables and six-figure salaries, either. I'm referring to simple things like flex-time so people can actually see their kids and have interests in their lives besides work.

    It seems to me that any company operating under this "Who gives a shit about you?" theory should be avoided... Sadly, in this employment market, the talent (that's us) doesn't have the option of voting "nay" to shitty employers by walking off to other jobs.

    I am quite fortunate that my new employer is a private (profitable) corporation that doesn't have to whack $1,000,000 out of the budget every five minutes to meet short-term proft forecasts and prevent stock price fluctuations. My former employer made $36 billion in PROFIT the year they laid us off. Sorry, but if you have to fire 5,000 people one quarter, then need to have a "massive hiring drive" the next, that is short-sigthed mismanagement by drones in suits who put their 401k balances ahead of the company's long-term stability and reputation.

    It is easy to say "We can cut 30% out of tech support and still field the same number of calls" but "# of calls" is not the same figure as "# of calls handled satisfactorily." As the quality drops, long-term sales prospects of the company's newer products slowly evaporate as CIOs and IT Managers say "Why the hell should we deal with those slow/incompetent jerks, when XYZ Corporation still offers good service?"

    (Ever spend big money with a vendor after their "support staff budget cuts" led to lousy service? Me neither...)

    It's gonna be like this, in our job market at least, for a while. Hopefully not too long...!

    Sadly, I'm afraid you're correct that we're going to have to deal with this sort of idiocy for a while longer... It is amazing to me that in strong economic times, managers complain endlessly about their "free agent" employees, louldy wondering where "loyalty" went?

    Then, in the down times, selfsame managers do their best to shit all over said employees... Perhaps if employers didn't (ab)use their power over their employees in a lousy employment market they wouldn't be so eager to jump ship at the first opportunity.
    --
    Who did what now?
    1. Re:Good companies stick to principles--always by crgrace · · Score: 1

      Truly outstanding post. If I could mod you above 5, I would, but I'll respond instead and use my mod points on another article.

  77. Disagree. by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Just fire all the troublemakers as an example to others. Morale will skyrocket.

    I know you're probably just being sarcastic, but this is a management tactic and one I firmly disagree with.

    Here's something that every university-level management program ought to stress on the first day of class: The real leaders in your organization are not just in the management chain, and all those in the management chain are not real leaders. Effective "troublemakers" are really the natural leaders in your organization who are alienated or dissatisfied for some reason. The smart thing to do it listen to them and recruit them to your side.

    I'm not talking about the know-it-all engineer who runs his mouth constantly (we all know this guy, don't we?) because nobody really listens to him, anyhow. No, I mean the person who seems like they're friends with 90% of the company, who people like and respect. Think about it -- you know the sort of person I mean.

    A good manager will figure out who these natural leaders are and understand that they're the key to guiding whatever organization they manage. These people can either destoy morale or make your team a team. As a manager, it's your choice.

    --
    Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
    1. Re:Disagree. by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wanker may not be posting sarcasm. Firing is not always bad, there ARE people who deserve it. The trick for management is to figure out who/when to make it effective. I admit though, mine is the only company that I know of where the firings were good and imediately positive.

      My company pulled itself out of a big financial hole, turned around in 8 months, became profitable again and remains so. The beginning was the firing. From there, morale improved and more work got done and more money was made.

      The remains of this can be seen in my journal if you want to take a peek at some of the negative attitude that is now gone due to firings.

      Firings improved morale, a lot. They just gotta hit the right targets.

    2. Re:Disagree. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting anonymously for obvious reasons:

      Agreed. I know one engineer and one manager who most people would be happy to see the back of. I'd be a happier employee if they went, even if I had to pick up their workload.

  78. Couple of ideas by victorchall · · Score: 1
    *Ping pong or fooseball (sp?) tables, obvious


    *Massage therapist every other week, free 5 minute massage, helps people feel relaxed


    *Allow flextime work (ex. work 9 hour days, get every other friday off), allows people to feel in control


    *Cater the last day before holidays, let people feel good about their job over the holidays rather than feel stressed

    --
    -Vic If you can't figure out my email, then don't.
  79. Stupid Managers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    At the last company I worked at (Verity) the VP of Engineering kept telling "motivational" stories based on his 3 week vacation in Africa. You know, about hyenas and lions eating other animals. He did this three company meetings in a row. At the same time a number of employees had been told (not asked) to work 7 days a week (which most did since they were H1-B's). Very motivational.

    Oh yes, since I left the company I guess he still tells motivational stories based on the vacations he's had since...

  80. Here's your problem. by labratuk · · Score: 1

    In my (albeit limited) experience the most depressing words ever to be uttered are 'Company Morale'.

    And everything goes downhill from there.

    --
    Malike Bamiyi wanted my assistance.
  81. In other words "How can we deceive?" by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If things are bad then trying to raise morale is nothing but an attempt to deceive employees. To try to convince them things are OK when they're not. But employees aren't so stupid. Nothing tells an employee that their company is in trouble more than morale boosting exercises from management.

    --
    Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
    1. Re:In other words "How can we deceive?" by Winterblink · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of Office Space, where they bring in the consultants to do firing, but "Remember! Friday is Hawaiian t-shirt day!"

      --
      "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
      -Hoban Washburn
  82. Re:the beatings will continue until morale improve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Oderint dum metuant" seems to be the motto of most "managers" today - "Let them hate me, as long as they fear."

    This is going to backfire in the long term, as this guy found out a long time ago.

  83. Expensive Disk space by Safety+Cap · · Score: 1
    More like eighty eight cents per gig, and falling.

    But hey, if you get your $30-60/hr programmers to sift through their stuff constantly and clean it up instead of doing their real jobs, you'll save SO MUCH MONEY!!!!

    Oh, you wanted a positive ROI? Sheesh!

    --
    Yeah, right.
    1. Re:Expensive Disk space by jclendenan · · Score: 1

      but if sifting through finds more bugs... Go for it. Better code checking (because of space conserns) might actually get us BACK to manageable useable sizes for programs.

    2. Re:Expensive Disk space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations!
      You may already be a manager, because you've somehow correlated forcing people to sift through the email and files they have stored on email and file servers with problems in projects they are implementing. Please post more misinterpretations of others' posts to confirm your PHB skills!

      --The Plebes
      P.S. The Plebes suggest you let them spend time looking for problems in their projects rather than sifting through email/file if you want their code to be tighter.

    3. Re:Expensive Disk space by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      More like eighty eight cents [pricewatch.com] per gig, and falling.

      You want that disk space backed up and available, right? $5/GB or more.

      But hey, if you get your $30-60/hr programmers to sift through their stuff constantly and clean it up instead of doing their real jobs, you'll save SO MUCH MONEY!!!!

      Doing this to save space is, of course, a farce, but organizing the crap and sifting out the useful docs (and putting them someplace where someone will find them) is rather valuable.

      --
      "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
  84. Get Rid of the People with Bad Attitudes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or at least have a very stern conversation with them first.

    There is nothing more infectious than a bad attitude, and it destroys teamwork and productivity.

    Sales groups use this approach at all times to great success, sometimes even removing good performers because they bring the rest of the team down.

    It may be morally repugnant, but it is very effective, and necessary for a good manager.

  85. Find a slower paced job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I work at a University. We don't have all of the restrictive deadlines that a buisness may have, the pay is not the greatest, but I get to work on things I enjoy without people looking over my shoulder.
    werd.

  86. You need to read, "First Break all The Rules" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We have grown from 4 employees in 1999 to 270 in March of 2003. Employee morale and engagement is incredibly important to us as managers in the company.

    There are no shortcuts to creating employee morale and engagement. Free lunches won't do it, pep talks won't do it, even stopping the layoffs won't improve morale and engagement.

    Creating an environment where people know what is expected of them, where they can grow, where management cares about them, where they are recognized, where they are valued and where they have the tools to do there work will improve morale and engagement.

    Accomplishing this is hard work and it is up to your company's managers to make this happen. As with most things in life there are no shortcuts. It is hard work. Hope you are up to it.

    Here is a list of the 12 key items that you need to discover from your employees from the Gallup book.

    Look here:

    http://gmj.gallup.com/book_center/FBATR/

    Item 12: Opportunities to Learn and Grow
    Item 11: Talk to Me About My Progress
    Item 10: I Have a Best Friend at Work
    Item 9: Doing Quality Work
    Item 8: My Company's Mission or Purpose
    Item 7: My Opinions Seem to Count
    Item 6: Someone Encourages My Development
    Item 5: My Supervisor Cares About Me
    Item 4: Recognition or Praise
    Item 3: Doing What I Do Best
    Item 2: Materials and Equipment
    Item 1: Knowing What's Expected
    What Is a Great Workplace?

  87. HIRE ME! by Twister002 · · Score: 1

    Hey, I'm a funny guy and a web developer to boot. I'll boost morale around the office!

    --
    "For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
  88. As an employer, I'd say... by Loundry · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Granted, I own a retail shop with only a few employees, but I have worked as a programmer and have seen both the best and the worst of management. It has helped me know how to treat (and how not to treat) my employees:

    What to do:
    • Make it very clear to each individual employee what she/he needs to do to be promoted. Do this openly, consistently, and frequently.
    • Your employees' families are much more important than your job your you are to them. If you respect and show concern for and interest in their families, then they will like working for you. If you do the opposite, you will get the opposite result.
    • Always be ready to take a few for the team. My business for a while was making money, but not that much. After I took my draw, I realized that I was paying my part-time hourly employee more than I was paying myself. Your employees are more likely to make sacrifices for your company if you make sacrifices for your company.
    • Be positive even in the face of disaster.
    • Praise your employees for specific behaviors. Focus on their strengths.
    • If your employee has a problem, be a grown-up about it and help them problem solve. Do not criticize. If they can't fix the problem even with your help, then you should probably be looking to replace them. Your talented and hard-working employees won't tolerate your coddling a poor performer.
    • Be honest and honorable with your customers. Your employees will know it if you are not, and they will think, "If he will do that to his customer, then what will he do to me?"


    What NOT to do:
    • Do not lie.
    • Do not accuse, berate, criticize, condemn, complain, or condescend to an employee, coworker, customer, hell, anyone. Those are childish, unprofessional choices, and you will never have good morale if you are unprofessional.
    • Do not express worry, even if you are (of course, worrying is violating the "be positive" rule ).
    • Do not tolerate employees who behave unprofessionally. Problem-solve or fire them.


    Just a few thoughts. I'm still a newbie. If you're an employee, and you want to increase your company morale, forget it. I suggest finding a new employer.
    --
    I don't make the rules. I just make fun of them.
    1. Re:As an employer, I'd say... by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      The "HIV==AIDS" hypothesis is the biggest medical fraud in human history. http://www.virusmyth.net/

      Well, you've certanly proved yourself a credible commentator.

      --
      autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
    2. Re:As an employer, I'd say... by Loundry · · Score: 1

      Well, you've certanly proved yourself a credible commentator.

      Are there any cofactors involved with AIDS, or is HIV sufficient?

      We'll see whose credibility lasts for the long haul.

      --
      I don't make the rules. I just make fun of them.
  89. Re:Lol, I do the same thing. by tang · · Score: 2, Funny

    "For fun I go to the interview, they offer me the job, then I drop a bomb on their stupid asses. I want 95k/year, 6 weeks paid vacation"
    He met to end this with:
    And then my mom comes and picks me up in her minivan and takes me to my real job at McDonalds.

  90. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by pivo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Flexible work hours and an open plolicy regarding internet and telephone use is a very good policy, but the absence of this type of policy is a symptom of a deeper problem within corporate "culture," by that I mean the treatment of employees like any other "just-in-time" business resource.

    Many companies today layoff and re-hire (euphamistically called "contract hire") employees as they're needed. Contract prices today are generally no where near where they were a few years ago because of the surplus number of contract workers and the new rage to outsource work to drastically cheaper overseas labor pools. Corporations spent the 80's and 90's trying to convince people that it really was in their best interest to function as resource units, even suggesting that it put the individual worker in the driver's seat, but in realitiy of course it was always in the corporations best interest. An excellent book on this subject is Thomas Frank's One Market Under God which chronicles the enormous PR and marketing resources expended by big companines to cultivate thier self-serving pseudo-populist image. Great insight also into the backgroud behind all those MCI and IBM commercials featuring throngs of third world looking people and the proverbial work-at-home CEO mom. Does Microsoft really stand in awe of us? I don't think so.

    Few people are doing well contracting today. Employers need to realize that paying employees well and not treating them like children, indentured servants or worse as a simple "resource" like computers or other equipment but instead like fellow human beings, is the best way to make everybody happy and productive.

  91. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree with the internet and phone use for personal business. Most of the time I have to take a vacation day to compelete such tasks and no work gets done. On the flex hours, I would agree to a degree. In the past I have had a question for someone only to realize the that person would not be at work for another two hours (or has already left for the day). But I do not have a problem with 30 minutes to maybe an hour. 30 minutes can drastically affect commute time because you are no longer in sync with everyone else.

  92. Morale Booster by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1

    Find the better unhappy ppl in your
    company that are fiscally responsible
    people and quit and start your own venture .

    Something that takes advantage of the downturn
    or has to do with emerging technologies that
    look like they will do well .

    Ex.: Wireless , Hydrogen fuel cell's , etc etc .

    As a web page churner, you may be limited
    by your skillset . This area is kinda
    saturated right now as you yourself have
    pointed out .

    In any event, good luck, and try the idea
    as a part time endeavor and do case studies
    on how well other ppl are doing in the sector
    you may be considering .

    Companies in times of a labor glut really
    do not care much for their employees unless
    the market starts to climb back up and they
    fear being left high and dry .

    Peace...
    Ex-MislTech

    --
    google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
  93. Change professions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The computer industry in the US is a dead end job.

    Try going into the health sciences or law.

  94. AES Corp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I read an article about 10 years ago which was about some guy in Brasil, I think it was, whose rubber company was about to go down the toilet financially. [...] The guy went on to experiment with introducing worker democracy on a wide scale - salaries, job descriptions etc. and apparently the company became very successful.


    Not the same comany apparently, but it reminded me of AES Corp., as described in Fast Company's article, "Power to the People".
  95. Broaden the View by malia8888 · · Score: 1

    Speaking largely about U.S. companies and politics the following holds true. There are some evil companies that are being run by people who cook the books so the top execs get big bucks like Enron. The rest of the companies are run by well-meaning folks who want their employees to be happy.

    The companies want happy workers possibly for non-altruistic reasons vis a vis "A happy employee is a productive employee". However, since the Republicans have taken over we have gone from an ample surplus to a terrifying deficit.

    $hit has a tendency to run downhill. The microcosm (individual businesses) are being hurt by the macrocosm (the government). The dot coms have died and stocks have plummeted under the current regime. Free enterprise is on its back and companies are failing.

    The best thing an employee can do to improve his lot is to become politically active and vote in a better government. In the meantime suck it up and hope that the cyle turns around for the better.

    --
    Harpo Tunnel Syndrome--my wrist feels funny.
  96. My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by Art_XIV · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The company I work for had a new salesperson. This guy had previously sold ERP systems, and now he was going to try to sell our companies development services.

    This really happened - I was walking by his office and spotted him reading a copy of Java for Dummies. Yes -- a salesperson.

    He explained that he felt he should know at least a little something about programming if he was going to try to sell our services as developers.

    Un-freakin'-believable!

    How many of you have spent endless hours explaining geek crap to sales/marketing/management nitwits who didn't have a clue and didn't care that they didn't have a clue?

    Well... needless to say... he was canned a few months later by a clueless superior.

    --
    The only thing that we learn from history is that nobody learns anything from history.
    1. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by FreshFunk510 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What exactly is your point?

      I'm a coder but, in some ways, it would be good to see that salespeople are taking the least bit effort to understand what it is you're doing. By understanding the technology better they can sound more educated about the stuff they are selling. Perhaps it behooves you to read a book or two about management, sales and marketing (I recommend Sales for Dummies).

      --


      "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
    2. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by kruczkowski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Like the other guy said, what is your point? Not eveyone is a coder, and the coders I do know don't know how to sell shit.

      You should congrat the guy for taking initative. Most sales guys talk the shit and have no idea what anything is. Thats why companys like MS and Cisco have special traning for the sales people.

      Think, do you want to code and sell?

      --
      hmm... for fun I enjoy launching DDoS attacks against 127.87.42.5
    3. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by scaramush · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just wanted to join in on the "Hey Asshole" Chorus.

      That guy was trying to get a better holistic picture of your organization. Maybe if you learned a bit about sales, you'd come to understand the types of features the customers want, or how to "sell" your suggestions to management.

      *Shakes head sadly*. No wonder non-techies think techies are such assholes...

      --
      "...you can steal my woman, but you ain't done nuthin' smart."
    4. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by lordaych · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find it absolutely amazing that everyone who's replied to your posting so far has interpreted it as if to mean that you were ridiculing this salesperson for wanting to understand Java when in fact it's obvious that you respected his behavior, especially when you referred to the superior who canned him as "clueless." I'm pretty sure this has been pointed out already, but not in a direct reply.

    5. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by sydb · · Score: 1

      An AC makes the point, but to make it clearer:

      Art XIV is COMPLIMENTING this sales chap for being the only technical salesman in the entire universe to actually want to know about the product he was selling.

      Not an asshole!

      --
      Yours Sincerely, Michael.
    6. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by scaramush · · Score: 1

      Okay, Asshole withdrawn. And I take back the things I said about your mother, too. And your choice to toy dogs. And your predilection for bottle water. And...well, you get the idea. ;)

      Kind of a trollish written message. He got, what? 1/2 a dozen people to bite. I'd say rather than reading comprehension for the readers, the author needs composition classes.

      --
      "...you can steal my woman, but you ain't done nuthin' smart."
    7. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by tyen · · Score: 1

      If you still know how to contact this salesman, please email it to maildrop001 at yahoo.com. I know two companies that would hire him in an instant if that kind of behavior is indicative of his overall sales approach.

    8. Re:My Brush w/ Morale Improvement. by rleibman · · Score: 1

      I guess the guy's point, and I agree, is that selling software (or consulting services) is VERY different from selling cars. I've worked for consulting companies that hired car salesmen and lobbyistst to sell programming consulting services. Management's attitude was *consistently* that you don't need to understand java in order to sell it.
      Guess how much these guys were selling?
      Guess how long it took for the first layoffs to be required?
      No, you don't have to be an expert, or even a programmer for that matter, and a good salesman can indeed sell anything, but a good salesman KNOWS his product enough that he can sell it.

  97. Re:the beatings will continue until morale improve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jc7385@company.com ... That sounds like Teradata NCR !

  98. One++ Words by Bombcar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Free. (as in Beer)

    As in lots of it. :)

    1. Re:One++ Words by Placido · · Score: 1

      It helps if you work for a brewery. ;) /gloat

      --

      Pinky: "What are we going to do tomorrow night Brain?"
      Brain: "I would tell you Pinky but this 120 char limi
  99. Get Busy! by Master_Flash · · Score: 1

    I have been through the down turn thing twice. What I have found is when people are not busy the find time to bitch. As soon as they are busy on new projects, the bitching stops and they get back to their jobs.

    --
    The home of the 3D Socialization and Interaction Engine
  100. What do you expect? by Colonel+Panic · · Score: 1

    If as you say, more than half the company was laid off and layoffs are still happening then who wouldn't be watching their backs?

    Poor morale is just going to be a fact of life in this environment. On one hand the employer probably isn't too worried about this because people won't be leaving anytime soon (where would they go?)

    1. Re:What do you expect? by fmayhar · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On the other hand, what kind of performance do you get from people who are afraid and are constantly looking over their shoulders? Not to mention the fact that a layoff hurts not just those who are hit but those who are left behind. Sometimes morale (and therefore performance) never comes back to what it was.

      I really think that the layoff business has grown past the point of absurdity. The companies that will do well are those who are just hunkered down and are hanging in there.

      Of course, I was laid off recently, so what do I know, right?

  101. Have everyone rent Office Space. by neo654 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's guaranteed to improve morale.

  102. Management Doesnt Care by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why should they care about your morale?

    The market is different, they have the upper hand currently with the high unemployment rates.

    If you are not productive, or a trouble maker, they can find a replacement for you.

    A few years ago it was different, and they had to keep people at any cost. But that is not the case now. Be happy you are even employed.

    --
    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
    1. Re:Management Doesnt Care by Apotsy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, but at many companies, they seem to know (even if many people are too bummed out to acknowledge this) that the business cycle will come around again. And they are terrified that all the good people will scatter as soon as times get better. At my company, HR was even holding focus groups to find out what employees thought the company could do to keep morale up.

  103. It's going to be like this for awhile ... by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why you ask ???

    The H1-b visa quota has not been rescinded ,
    more foreign labor to be imported for less $$ .

    The L-1 visa program is now sweeping thru
    insurance companies in connecticut and
    large portions of the staff are being dumped
    for cheaper L-1 labor .

    The L-1 visa program is going to make the
    H1-B visa program look like a JOKE !!!

    There is no cap on the number of L-1 visas,
    that is right, it is unlimited !!!

    They just use the clause that says they
    have a branch outside the US , and they
    have their loophole !!!

    http://www.visapro.com/L1-Visa/L1-Visa.asp

    If this keeps happening look for mass
    bankruptcies, forclosures, and ppl goin postal .

    I feel lucky I have ratholed away ALOT of money,
    and am living ultra-cheap right now .

    I quit my job due to lopsided responsibilities
    and pay, and was only able to do it because
    I have been thru this cycle of crapping
    on ppl while the economy is bad before .

    I am taking the time to study and get some
    more certifications .

    They can find someone else to be super tech,
    while the other ppl are getting promoted .

    Peace...
    Ex-MislTech

    --
    google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
    1. Re:It's going to be like this for awhile ... by compwizrd · · Score: 1

      As well, there are no salary requirements on the L1's. You can hire someone at minimum wage to replace your regular worker.

  104. Inspiration from Hollywood by heli0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Peter Gibbons: So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.
    Dr. Swanson: What about today? Is today the worst day of your life?
    Peter Gibbons: Yeah.
    Dr. Swanson: Wow, that's messed up!

    --
    Whenever the offence inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigour of penal law is obliged to give way...
  105. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's some funny shit.

  106. improving morale (DIY) by marcjw · · Score: 1

    The book "Zapp! The Lightning of Empowerment" by William Byham might have benefitted me more during management training than any other single source especially as it relates to morale boosting.

    --
    . Ergo sum cogito - Yoda
  107. Reduce layers of management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find that morale is driven by common purpose. When layoffs are occuring each individual must decide whether to try and find a job elsewhere or to become part of a solution.

    Workers at the coal face have a lot of comments to make, and after may long bitchy lunches often have some very good ideas on how to get the company out of it's financial woes. These workers working as an integrated team to bring the company back into the black are the key to sucess and morale.

    I think the keys to making this work though are honesty (If the workers aren't given a realistic view of what's going on up at the top then they won't come up with good solutions at the lowest levels) and responsive management. Responsive management is tricky, and particularly when the number of employees drops significantly in an organisation management is looking after it's own collective butt, and often not concentrating on getting out of the rut. Management is usually a lot quicker to drop actual productive workers than they are the management group which made the poor decisions in the first place. In an example in my own company we had an office lose 20 software developers out of 30 while only one token management position fell. To compound the problem the key management individual who was responsible for the group's downfall was hired into a more lucritive group to save him from his self-made destruction.

    Management can't be responsive to the front-line workers when there are too many of them, or when they're worrying about their own positions. They may come to see the situation as the same "us and them" battle that the productive employees see. Management and general employees must take hits in equal and honest poritions, and must communicate effectively to save jobs at every level.

    Benjamin.

  108. First of all & Very important!! by GdoL · · Score: 1

    Have a job. I don't have a job for the las t three years and will have a great moral if i had one and surely will help to increase the moral between my co-workers.

    I'm a great programmer, people's people and will work everywhere in the US, CAN or EU. For a low fee too.

    --

    ------I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either.------
  109. I am not worthy !!! by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1

    Management Techniques of the
    Bottom 95% of U.S. Corporations

    This has rare insight into the world of Inc.

    LOL,

    I can't stop laughing, the sad part is that
    alot of it is TRUE !!!!

    Peace...
    Ex-MislTech

    --
    google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
  110. Re:Join the Army! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you watch the news every now and then. I suppose the videos showing Iraqi people happy to see the US/UK soldiers are all forgeries. Just like the moon landing, eh? You're such a fucker.

  111. the management won't like it... by koekepeer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    in the current economical climate, you have to be flexible. a good idea is to have plenty of redundancy among the programmers/functional people and have a mean, very slim sales team and some supportive personell (secretary). the main costs in IT companies are salary costs, so pay the people that do the work.

    now in real life, this will never happen. what you see is management that stays and "lower" employees who get fired. therefore, the people who have to do "the real work": functional design, programming, implementation, customer support are getting overworked and are underpayed to support the huge cars and salaries of management.

    the only real solution is to cut down the amount of management positions, and have many employees that can do "the real work"...

    i know this isn't of much help. all you can *really* do is to sit back, work like mad, and hope economy will be rising soon, and clients will want to invest again.

    now, for some basic personal improvement lessons: stop complaining. the amount of energy you put into worrying about things you cannot do anything about is enormous -> think about it. focus on what you can achieve (how little these achievements may be). as Covey says (recommended reading!): enlarge your circle of influence. and be "proactive" (the most annoying buzzword ever ;-). if you see a solution, just propose it to your manager casually. if you focus on that kind of strategies,and put energy into discussing improvement, you have at least a higher chance to enlarge your influence on the situation.

    do it nicely though, the managers are in huge stress, covering their ass all the time. don't say "i think this is wrong, we better do...", but instead use formulations like: "we thought a bit about the idea you proposed the other day. it was very interesting (blah blah blah), and then slowly introduce your opinion about it. make it seem as if it's his/her idea, with just some minor optimisations. you will fail a dozen times, but the 13th time something might stick. and if a lot of ideas start sticking, you and your co-workers might even be able to really change something.

    and don't worry about being acknowledged. what you and your co-workers want is a better environment, and not a management position, right? (at least not for now :)

    trust me it works :) personal experience!

  112. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Flexible hours... Some companies have flexible hours. However, there are so many related issues it is not even funny.

    The notion of flexible hours in startups has become "come late, leave late". If someone wants to start the work day at 7am in the hopes of getting out by 4 or 5 and get a life, there is almost palpable tension from the glares of coworkers who amble into work sometime at 10am or 10:30am. More so, if the bosses themselves are late comers.

    The flexible hours thing is almost abused in some places. It is much less pressure, if people are asked to be in at certain time, get out at a certain time (unless there are deadlines and other situations).

    Imagine having no work to do and still having to sit till 7pm because the dudes that come at 11am will stare you into submission...

    S

  113. Job Security by itsnotthenetwork · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The only thing that will help in your situation is Job Security. If you don't have that, nothing else will help. Nobody is going to be gung ho if they don't know if they are going to be there tomorrow. Of course you could try the dot com way and hand out worthless stock options like they were toilet paper.

  114. One layoff per year by Animats · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A company can only survive about one layoff per year. It's much better for morale to have one big one than lots of little ones. It takes more planning by management, but that's what management is for.

  115. Classic line by armer · · Score: 2, Funny

    This reminds me of our "official" company motto: The random firings will continue until morale improves"

  116. Workers Self Management. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?fo rum=13&topic=485

    That's how you improve moral, comrade ;-)

  117. Constructive Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What kind of constructive suggestions can I take to management so that they can help improve the situation?

    Get rid of the managers.

  118. you have to ask questions and gather some data by zogger · · Score: 1

    --there's a lot of things that will effect morale, primarily people work for "money".

    So, is the company really profitable in what it does, or is it struggling with the remnants of venture capital and dotbomb kruft? If they aren't profitable, there's no way to have good morale. If what they do as their primary business is based on fluff and unnecessary extravagances that have limited and volatile markets, don't expect them to stay in business, so adjust your own morale in advance for that possibility. Go ahead and suck it down while you can get it, but don't keep false hopes.

    If the company could be profitable but isn't, are the managers doing things like moving operations to much cheaper rent, slashing their own salaries, getting rid of those thousand buck chairs and business lunches and "personal assistants", or are they shipping labor offshore, keeping the same expensive offices, giving themselves bonuses, etc? If they are, you won't have good morale. Eventually it will be a handful of local bosses and all you guys will be bye bye, bad for morale obviously.

    Is the company cooking the books to make it appear like they are profitable? Nose around, schmooze up to the bean counters, find out, because you DON'T want to be there when TSHTF. If they are, chances are good you'll come in one day and the owners will have split or something like that, no lie, that happened to me once in a good job,(small shop around 10 guys) came in monday morning,the boss/owner had split,cleaned out some personal stuff out of his office and around the shop, he had cleaned out the corporate accounts, moved from his house (I went and checked, he was poofed), had left everyone the previous friday night with rubber checks. Stuff happens. Or if a bigger place you might get raided by the feds or something, it's in the news every other day of financial mismanagement to make it look like companies are making money when they are bleeding red ink. You'll never have good morale with people like that "in charge". Any good morale will be built on false premises, the crash and letdown can be pretty bad. Be wary of uber professional sales types in management positions, they are necessary for all businesses, but are smooth talkers and actors by definition, if you keep smelling rats with what's going on, assume there's rodents no matter what smiley face they project or soothing words. Hmm, sort of like politicians re election commercials, talk with several large handfuls of salt.

    If you are an employee, after first noticing the previous, well, you do your job! It's that easy! You use your brain, you are a professional about your work, you stay flexible enough to deal with unexpected things that occur, and you don't assume anything but it's a business, it's not a hangout, social club or place for games. That's not to say it can't be casual and sometimes fun, but that is secondary to the purpose of work, and it should be a far away secondary.

    If you know you are doing a good job, then your morale should be good. If you are medium happy with your pay and bennies, accept it, don't think you'll get automatic raises all the time or that you deserve a never ending stream of attaboys. Accept criticism when it's necessary, and go ahead and ask if you don't know, if it's some project that has tons of variables, seek out an opinion voluntarily, ask "how does this look, is this what you really want?" etc. Sometimes management actually gets embarrased and doesn't want to address critical issues in a timely manner, they will let problems go too long without addressing them, so make it easier for them. You stop short of sucking up, that isn't required, just use a common sense approach. Everyone has good morale then, based on their ability to handle weird situations, no one is exactly the same, so don't assume they are.

    Got a beef with co workers? Analyse it, see if it's work related, or personal, if it's personal, you just have to deal with it. Keep contact to a minimum , just enough to do your job, but if they keep s

  119. Co-operation by UpnAtom · · Score: 1

    The principle is pretty simple. Go out of your way to demonstrate you understand and are willing to fulfil employee's individual needs.

    Other suggestions:
    Hire a workforce who are likely to be good for morale eg optimistic, fun, good communicators.
    Make your employees shareholders. Train natural leaders for management.

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  121. The only real answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee, I guess you could have beer busts, free prozac, company t-shirts, pep talks or any of a number of methods of raising moral temporarily.

    The only real way to improve moral is to get more work for your company. Details for implementing this are left as an exercise for both employees and management.

  122. You can do absolutely nothing by jgardn · · Score: 1

    If an open channel of communication between the developers and the management doesn't exist, there is nothing you can do to fix it. It is up to them.

    Management has a tendency to slip into their own circles and forget about the little guys, even though it is the little guy that makes their company move forward. You have to be honest with them and communicate what is happening and how you feel about the situation, and provide suggestions for improvements. You have to work to keep those channels open. The minute they close, they are closed forever.

    If you feel that you cannot do this, or if you have tried and failed, you have two options.

    First, you can do what it takes to secure your job. Take all the money from your paycheck you can and stick it in the bank for that rainy day that is inevitable. Put out your resume and start contacting recruiters, using your lunch break to go to interviews. When you find a job, make sure they give you a good raise before jumping ship, if you can stand waiting for another job to show up.

    The second option is to quit and look for employment elsewhere. You don't have to quit to go on a job search, but it helps to have more freetime if you want to start your own entrepeneurial endeavor. Make sure you have plenty of cash (6mos+ of bare minimum living).

    Now, the key here is to quit in style. You go up to the CEO, or the board, if you know them, and tell them working conditions are unacceptable, and if something isn't done fast, there will be terrible consequences. You name names of managers you really don't like, and ones you do. You tell him to fire the managers that suck, and give raises to the managers that are cool. Don't leave out the CTO/CIO and department heads! You tell him what policy changes need to be implemented, or else.

    You will likely lose your job for being so bold, unless you are personal friends with the CEO or members of the board. However, they will be the ones letting you go, and they will never fire you for being direct, but always for "economic reasons" or something harmless.

    *DON'T* take out your frustration on the code or the systems you manage. We IT people need to maintain our integrity. One bad egg who does this will ruin all of our reputations forever.

    --
    The radical sect of Islam would either see you dead or "reverted" to Islam.
  123. Re:Join the Army! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. You're right. News broadcasts were never used for propaganda before.

  124. What would Shackleton do? by JoeMac · · Score: 1
    Shackleton definitely set the bar high for quality leadership. Related to your link (that's the coffee table 'Endurance' book, right? I think I've only skimmed through that one), there are a couple of books explicitly addressing Shackleton's leadership abilities. One of them is quite good, and another is somewhat gimmicky and annoying. The authors try to apply Shackleton's methods to business today. There are definitely rules of thumb that can be derived from the Endurance expedition that are applicable to business today.

    It would be worthwhile for the poster's bosses to have a look at them. There several stories in both books about leaders and managers that discovered Shackleton's story (usually by reading Endurance) and transformed their approach to leading others.

  125. been there, done that by audionoom · · Score: 2

    hey,

    I have got to admit > I've experienced it two times now, and I don't want to sound to pessimistic or anything - but here is my view of the situation where you're in

    1. the overall morale is bad, and personally I don't think there is anything that will be able to change that - as long as one person remains in the company that has experienced the bad time and bad morale ; someone will always refer to the other times ...

    2. once people are giving up, there is almost nothing, that can change that, except the people themselves ; there will be events from management to boost morale, there will be team meeetings and whatever other things managers will come up with - it will not help, unless the people themselves are ready for it

    3. after some time, management changes will start happening - since upper management does not see a lot of changes in attitude settling in
    Sadly enough - this will only add to the frustration and wondering of the cublicle dwellers - since they will most probably not be informed about the changes and the reasons thereof ...

    4. because of all frustrations getting the upperhand - more people will leave - and less work will be done because of employers talking to each other etc etc ...

    I think what I'm referring to is a spiral > I'm afraid there is nothing much that can be done about it, especially with so many people involved - you talk about a company with 500 people in the past, and 200 remaining ... I don't think there is a way people can be motivated enough, to make them forget what happened in the past ...

    Dilbert comics come to mind by the way ...

    In the two times I experienced this - I remained until the end - until the complete demise : I got fired, and the company went bankrupt both times, in some way ...

    What I learned from this - jump ship when you can, especially if yout got some serious qualities, unless it is a small firm and you got a really innovating product or service worth losing your own motivation for ...

    good luck !

    mentor

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    Knowledge first. Social contact later.
  126. Improving? - I'm not bitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well my company is moving from old buildings to a nice shiny new one. Er, which isn't big enough. So now instead of working in offices with our own desks and a handful of people where we can think at least some of the time we'll be in a big noisy open plan area. Desk-sharing. And did I mention that unlike the current situation there aren't going to be enough parking spaces, so we'll need to ride-share too? Our CEO tells us it will all be all right, and I'm sure this must be true. But I wonder why he's leaving for sunnier climes before the move?

    No, the business isn't shrinking. It's growing. Honest.

    Oh, sorry. You wanted ways our employers are improving the environment and morale. My mistake.

  127. Re:Lol, I do the same thing. by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 1

    I see you've already been tagged as flamebait, but let me give you some real advice: going around screwing with people who are there to offer you a shot at a job (whether they work for the government or not) is not wise. Professional people (public and private sector) have friends that work in other sectors, and jerks like you are good conversation topics.

    You may miss out on some future $95k job opportunity (assuming you're worth that much) because someone already knows about your reputation. JMHO.

    --
    [b.belong('us') for b in bases if b.owner() == 'you']
  128. How I survived my companys implosion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was working in San Francisco at an internet startup in 2000. We had about 75 employees at the peek. Given the environment and how well I saw the company doing I started to believe it was likely to fail.

    I put feelers out to friends and had an interview with a friend of mines boss. I decided to jump ship even though I was an important (principal) engineer as it was obvious that whatever happened the odds of the company prospering were aproaching zero. This process of working up a resume, meeting, interviewing, getting an offer etc, took over a month.

    I accepted the new job the day before it was anounced in a company meeting that layoffs were upon us. If the company hard performed an amazing turn around maybe I would have stayed.

    I was VERY lucky, several of the engineers at that company go sucked into working for free - many of them then left that company to work at the next one started by the founders and still work there FOR FREE - if you check your calendar that will tell you how screwed those people are. 'Loyalty' to the company was used as leverage to prevent these people from leaving.

    The key points of my experience:
    - when you realistically think the company has a high probability of failure bail, don't wait.
    - don't work for free, find a new position
    - loyalty to a for profit entity has to be balanced with self preservation.

  129. Re:Join the Army! by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    There are ppl in droves helping to pull down
    the statues, and photos of Saddam, and
    after the Gulf War they beat his ass back
    in 19 out of 22 provinces .

    If we would have helped , Saddam would have
    been out in 1992 .

    Read the history of Iraq you liberal lapdog .

    I have friends that were THERE, you have
    hollywood dipshits running their mouths
    because they wanted Gore for prez .

    Peace...
    Ex-MislTech

    --
    google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
  130. Re:You're a piece of shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember WWII? War sucks, yes, but sometimes it is necessary to improve the world situation.

  131. Be Thankful and Patient by Alethes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those are the two things everyone has to do to be happy.

    1) Be thankful that you have a job at all. There are a lot of guys that would kill for your job right now -- even if it's not exactly fun.

    2) Be patient and wait for the economy to pick up. It HAS to pick up at some point.

    Being thankful and patient are a choice. They are contagious, and when you, as an individual, apply them to your own job, your co-workers will eventually pick up on it as well. Conversely, if you choose to complain and make that the norm, your co-workers will also pick up on that and morale will suffer accordingly.

    1. Re:Be Thankful and Patient by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      1) Be thankful that you have a job at all. There are a lot of guys that would kill for your job right now -- even if it's not exactly fun.

      Those guys don't know the business as well as you do, make sure you can be more valuable than they can by taking an interesting in why you do what you do, not just what your job is. That way you can be more than a replacable cog, and in that capacity you don't have to worry about competing with replacable cogs. If your so down on your job that you just want to be a cog, for gods sake get a job you can be useful in.
      2) Be patient and wait for the economy to pick up. It HAS to pick up at some point.

      Patient without being stupid, don't sit in a job you aren't effective in just because of fear. Find a new job if you are really just a cog.

    2. Re:Be Thankful and Patient by chain_from_hell · · Score: 1

      I am gratefull for having a job. But the CEO has set the compagny on a collision course. I can tell you, that does not improve moral. All developer are trying to adjust this course, but the manager of the development sees this as an attack on his rules, idea's, standards and an attach om him as person.

      This manager is the prototype of 'bad coder turns into bad manager'-type. He's defense on our 'attacks' is the whip-n-row technique. Mainly threats of being fired.

      The CEO is not helping much to solve this problem. The manager is a close friend of the CEO. Every 'attack' on the standards is seen as an attach on the manager and thus an attack on the CEO.

      Now we have software that barely functions and neets to be taken care of like it is a disabled infant. Support is about 50% of an avarage day. Projects are deliverd with more then two years delay!

      So now the compagny is in finacial sh!t. How do the adjust the policy? They don't, and continue with what they are doing. Accounts go deeper into the red, but management maintains collision course.

      To quickly summorise what went wrong:
      o Incompetent coder becomes incompetent managemer
      o Do not listen to the people on the floor, pretend to know everything like it was God-given
      o If something does not work, keep on using it because it's your baby
      o Do not make prototypes. Those are for stupid people. Do everything like it was written on paper in the fist place.
      o Invest in paper. Let the developer write every insignificant detail down, and forget to document how everything should work togehter
      o Tell your employees that they are insignigicant and they receive lowest priority.
      o Keep them in the dark about everything that's happening. Let them figure everything out with rumours.

      What should 've been done:
      o Everything discussed above
      o Ask the developers what to do about the system, and let them provide the solutions. They work with it every day, they know wat the problems are.
      o Give respect to the workers. Give them there salary on time.
      o Share information about the company
      o Give people freedom to act, do not micromanage everything

  132. break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like you need to break - try the campaign at http://www.dphilc.blogspot.com

  133. Simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drop out of technology. It's a soul-less trivial existence spent repairing other people's mistakes, then being replaced by an Indian, Chinese or Russian who can barely speak english but will impale themselves for the boss.

    Become a chef. Work with food and happy people. Actually, Indian, Chinese and Russian cooking.

    Then you can open a fancy restaurant, and charge lots of money to the folks who took your job to eat the food they could have for cheaper if they stayed in their country.

    It all evens out.

  134. Not much you can do by mesach · · Score: 1

    When your boss is always talking about how "he doesn't want to see the division outsourced" just because he heard it once in a meeting, and now he panics everytime a meeting is scheduled.

    It becomes a catch-22 when you have to prove your worth, but you know that you are one foot in the grave. What incentive do you have to look forward to?

    The job prospects look bleak on both sides of the fence. No moving up, and moving out is scary with the state of the Just Over Broke Market(this really applies now that employers want the world for minimum wage or near it) being what it is these days.

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    moo.
  135. The Hacker FAQ by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All companies should make reading the Hacker FAQ mandatory for all employees. Even IBM uses the Hacker FAQ!

    My personal favorite:
    0.2: How should I manage my hacker?
    The same way you herd cats. It can be a bit confusing; they're not like most other workers. Don't worry! Your hacker is likely to be willing to suggest answers to problems, if asked. Most hackers are nearly self-managing.

    Jonah Hex

  136. I'd go for mandatory Hawaiian shirt day by jsgf · · Score: 1

    Zany. Zany always makes them happy.

    1. Re:I'd go for mandatory Hawaiian shirt day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear some of them like to shoot each other with Nerf guns. I think we could allow that, in appropriate pre-designated areas.

  137. Translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I work as a homosexual for a gay development company. We fuck pretty hard (as do most gay web companies) and we all use Macintoshes. The company went from over 500 useless faggots to under 200 in under two years. It's more stable now, but people are consistently fired for being useless. Consequently people feel like they always have to look over their shoulder to avoid getting fucked up the ass without enough lube. Most lunches are spent going to Bloomindales and shopping for dishes. Employers: what have you done to get rid of the homosexuals in your company? As an employee, what can I do to have sex with that hunky VP so I can get some more "job security"? How can I make my work environment more gay? (Maybe some more window treatments?) Should I tell management to suck my dick? Or does it have so many piercings that they'd be turned off?"

    1. Re:Translation: by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 1
      While a little rude, this comment was pretty accurate.

      Face it, you're useless web designers without any real skills. Go back to school and get a BFA degree or something. Your company will keep bleeding employees until all of its clients go out of business, switch to inhouse design, or just realize they don't have to pay a bunch of nelly hard-to-manage prima donnas big bucks just to get a web site.

    2. Re:Translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow you have issues

  138. making it better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One thing each of you can do to restore some flow and escape the Dilbertian universe... each time there is a snag, a delay, a challenge... decide to love it, laugh at it, embrace it, go with it, and make this the centre of your group's understanding of things. let go of the outcome. you're going together on a ride.

    At some point when the heat is up, you and your workmates will throw a glance of understanding to each other. If all of you can get in sync with this, it will end up worth a lot more to you than merely holding on to the job.

  139. Happy by dazdaz · · Score: 1

    There's a lot of talk about others being unhappy, so i'll be unhappy. This is a herd instinct, take it a step further, why are you unhappy?

    If your getting paid, how can you be unhappy? Is'nt that the most important thing? I think a lot of people have lost focus. Times are tough and you have to focus on the important things. Do you really know what's important? Putting food in your belly, providing shelter and more important than happiness, perhaps not much but a little.

    If your in a job, great, then your probably luckier than you actually realise, so stop complaining.

    Ask yourself, what would make you happy, how could morale be improved? You'll find that in most cases everything is fine, yet the person or persons are simply bored. You want a change of your routine, you dont want to wake up at 7am, you want to sleep till 9am. You don't want to chat around the water cooler, you want to go and travel. You don't want to see the same colleague sitting across the desk, as you've seen them there for 2 years, you want to see someone else, your just bored with yourself, not the job or workplace itself.

    This is the cause of low morale in the majority of cases. People are projecting their boredom with themselves onto whatever is closest to them, which just happens to be the company, think again, because in many cases your the cause of that low morale.

  140. Three words... by keyslammer · · Score: 1

    Quake Lunch Hour!

  141. Why must it be a "geek" activity? by barzok · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The last large "activity" our company's IT department put together was a BBQ & game at the local AAA baseball stadium. I can't stand the game of baseball itself (and I'm sure there were more non-fans than fans there), but the act of going out to the park and hanging out there was fun. The last thing I want the company doing to "improve morale" is to ask me to stay in the office and stare at the screen for several more hours - regardless of what's on the screen.

    Your job does not define who you are. Being "computer geeks" does not mean we should not do anything outside that realm.

    Oh, and don't BS me that my job is secure. A lot of really good people got let go in the last round of layoffs. If more are coming, tell me. If they're over, tell me that too. But don't ever "assure" me that my job is "secure" - there is no such thing anymore.

  142. management by bataras · · Score: 1

    1st thing: your manager should be asking this question, not you. That means you have an uphill struggle out of the gate.

    Take you manager (and other managers) to these lunches where people complain. Invite different executives to have lunch once a month or so with your team. Create venues for people to communicate.

  143. Re:Join the Army! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You still don't get the difference between "We don't like Saddam" and "We want you to bomb our cities to drive ONE MAN out of the country", do you?

  144. slashdot! by zozzi · · Score: 1
    Simple. Just remove 127.0.0.1 slashdot.org from your /etc/hosts file

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  145. Be Careful by CarlDenny · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remember that you are just a developer, and it is not your job to improve morale. You may want sales to improve, but it's not your job to go poking into improving sales.

    Management will notice your attempts, and if they are failing to address the morale problem, and you are trying to edge into their turf by trying to address it yourself (from their perspective, questioning their policies and pointing out their inadequacies.) You are likely to be the next one laid off if you try to push for change.

    That might not be a bad thing, I don't know what your severance package is (I really liked mine.) When the company is going downhill, IMHO the only way to raise employee morale is to disconnect that morale from the company. The one constructive thing I would suggest you do is network with your fellow employees. Get to know as many of them as you can, especially those doing things unrelated to you. And once you or them are laid off, keep in touch.

    I had a similar experience, although it was coupled with years of re-orgs and muddled direction. I tried to push for change, but my morale broke, and I just accepted things and hoped for severance. I'd been marked as a trouble-maker, so once things got tight enough, I was out. They had to re-hire me as a contractor, and I am 10 times happier about working, and probably 3 times more effective than when I was dragging my feet from low morale (paying me almost 3 times as much too ;).)

  146. How this for a moral buster! by louissypher · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Taken from Fuckedcompany.com in Dec. (Jo Anne was soon fired afterwards, go figure).

    From: Jo Anne Miller
    To: Gluon - Site - All
    Sent: 12/6/2002 3:03 PM
    Subject: Commitment Message from the ALL HANDS MEETING
    Importance: High

    As those who were present at the All Hands Meeting this morning already
    know, I am seeking the PERSONAL Commitment of everyone at Gluon to the
    Release 2.1 development schedule. I expect a return email from all the
    staff to tell me if they can step up and make the commitment to DO
    EVERYTHING IT TAKES, INCLUDING POSTPONING DECEMBER VACATIONS to hit the
    2.1 ready for field trial milestone of January 20, 2003 and ready to
    deploy milestone of February 21, 2003. I also need to know if you will
    volunteer to be here the week of December 23-27 and Dec. 30-Jan. 4.

    Please consider this decision carefully. Don't say yes if you don't
    believe that you and your fellow Gluon teammates can make this happen.
    Don't say yes, if you aren't ready to find bugs, fix bugs, document the
    product and get this ready to go out the door. Don't say yes if you are
    too burned out to look forward to continued late nights, long hours and
    stretch milestones.

    Now more than ever, the Gluon team must have the start-up/do whatever it
    takes mentality. If any of you are not of that mentality anymore, have
    personal/family issues that prohibit you from making the full
    commitment, please tell me that as well and I will do whatever I can to
    assist you to find a job outside of Gluon.

    I am attaching the four key slides from the all hands related to our
    commitment to refresh your memory of what is required and why.

    Looking forward to hearing back from everyone

    Jo Anne Miller
    Gluon Networks, Inc.
    5401 Old Redwood Hwy.
    Petaluma, CA 94954
    707-285-4001
    www.gluonnetworks.com

    --
    www.bleepyou.com
    1. Re:How this for a moral buster! by bandy · · Score: 1

      No word on their web site if they pushed the release out yet .... but they did have a coup d'état at the CEO level in February.

      --
      "You might as well get your son a ticket to hell as give him a five string banjo." -unknown minister
    2. Re:How this for a moral buster! by Gleef · · Score: 1

      Better than many. If Gluon 2.1 is truly critical for corporate survival, would you prefer she do what way too many companies do, which is keep that a secret until it's too late and they can't meet payroll?

      She's identified a critical step to get the company out of fucked status, and is trying to engage the employees to be more involved in making sure the step happens. Granted, she's doing a mediocre job of it. A carrot would be nice to go along with the long hours, stressful deadlines, and hosed vacation plans.

      I don't know the entire story behind Gluon Networks, and there may be truly fucked up shit going on behind the scenes, I just don't see this memo as one of them.

      I'm curious, was she fired because she was running things badly, or because the board didn't like her making the fragility of the company that public? My guess was, whether she was good or horrid at running things, she was fired because the board didn't like their dirty laundry put in memo form and leaked to fuckedcompany.com for the shareholders to see.

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      Open mind, insert foot.
  147. Easy! by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 0, Troll

    Start a war - it works for countries. :)

  148. All it takes is a bit of initiative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Seriously, that's the one thing lacking in the work environment. To be happier, you need to do something so that you and your colleagues feal like a team, you need to create solidarity. Why do you think the feeling of brotherhood etc. is so important in the military?

    You can't sit on your butt at work waiting for the managers to do stuff for you. Five years ago when money wasn't the issue it is today, you'd probably get sent off on team-building excursions, but today you're going to have to do that yourself, and pay for it yourself, but it's worth it.

    Just organise a paintball day, or (if you're feeling rich) a weekend in the hills doing orientation, capture the flag, whatever.

    Just do whatever it takes to make your colleagues feel like they're not alone, like you're all "in it together" which, at the end of the day, you are.

    But sitting in front of a terminal asking a fairly obvious question on Ask Slashdot instead of actually *doing* something about morale, isn't going to get you anywhere. If you're going to wait for it, it's not going to happen.

  149. Simple, stop the Layoffs!!! by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You want to increase morale in the company?

    Stop laying off people. This has proven to be a serious morale booster. If your company has faith in our employees by not laying off people, they will respond exponentially.

    Find other ways to cut spending. Start with Voluntary leadership salary cuts instead of laying off people. Have the CEO not take the yearly fatty bonus or have the upper management take a voluntary pay cut.

    Also, start investing in research and development into new technologies and new money making ventures for the company.

    Watch your morale grow after this.

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    Save the World! Use a Quote!
  150. Promote internally by fleener · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Recognize the quality veteran employees you have by promoting them.

    Nothing distresses the rank and file more than to have a new manager every one or two years who appears, changes the direction of a project (or kills it outright), and then leaves and is replaced by another manager who shakes things up.

    You need people who know the company's history, its people and abilities, and have a vested interest in the company's future.

    1. Re:Promote internally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked at my previous job for just over 4 years. In that time, I had six bosses, none of whom were hired from within. 1st 3 bosses were actually pretty good, but they got fed up with the company and left, the 4th one was fired because he was an incompetent jerk, the 4th boss was good, but the owner got pissed at him during a company dinner (She got drunk, and was screaming obsenities at him in the middle of the restraunt, then fired him), and the 6th boss came in and a few months later laid me off. Now, I'm working for my 3rd boss at a MUCH better company.

  151. Re:You're a piece of shit. by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well maybe your just a Neo-nazi, or palestinian
    supporter, or someone that does not mind
    being in their company eh ???

    If so, keep posting, makes it easier to
    trace where you are so we can come question
    you about your affiliations .

    Peace...
    Ex-MislTech

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    google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
  152. Mistake about Atta by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.adl.org/rumors/atta_rumors.asp

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    google "32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention"
  153. Read that section more carefully, Saldek. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ayn Rand's story about the fall of the Twentieth Century Motor Company was about a few incompetents introducing methods that brought out the worst in their employees: From each according to their ability, to each according to their need. What the parent described had nothing to do with penalizing the competent to reward the worthless, he was talking about management being honest with the employees, telling them what was going on, and giving them a say in their future.

  154. MOD PARENT UP TO +25 BILLION TOO TRUE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God damn, that comment applies to just about any workplace where the men can't wait to have meetings all day long with other men while their wives and children wait at home!

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP TO +25 BILLION TOO TRUE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange how nobody modded that up :)

    2. Re:MOD PARENT UP TO +25 BILLION TOO TRUE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a dirty secret that most men have homosexual tendencies, which is why they love so much to talk about 'teamwork' and like sports were men touch each other and see each other naked afterward.
      It has been speculated that this homosexual tendency is why men like to have meetings all the time and feel it's important to touch each other all the time in the workplace.
      100% heteros with autistic tendencies (ie most smart loner types) who are excellent technical types usually don't fare well in the office politics departement. Low social skills and absolute refusal to 'play the (gay) game' leads to layoffs.

  155. Here's a suggestion... by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 0, Troll



    Hire some fucking employees.

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

  156. Re:You're a piece of shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "palestinian supporter" must be the most pathetic insult i've ever heard.

  157. Re:STOP THE WAR by Shazzman · · Score: 1

    You're a big pussy. Unless you change your attitude you will never amount to anything.

  158. One word. India by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    India has scared the shit out of alot of employee's. In the bosses mind it may not increase morale but it sure as hell increases productivity for the American workers. If not then an you can hire 3 Indians for the price of one american and have twice the workflow!

    I sincerly believe this current strategy is going to backfire when the economy improves and when it does boy are these bosses going to regret it.

    If the IT sector ever recovers I hope as hell these companies that do this ( cough sun cough ) will be revenged by their whole IT staff quiting. If I worked at sun and could not have my own desk( rumoured McNealy just has terminals with employee profiles ), be worried about being laid off, and deal with no loyality or ethics from management then sure as hell I would quit if I could find another job. The part about the employees not having there own desks is true. They have tiny cubicles with terminals and you have to pray that all the seats are not taken. No employee is assigned a cubicle or desk. They just go to a terminal and log in to retrieve their profile. They did this to reserve space and not pay for expanding their building. THey are cheap as hell and if employees have no personal space it can bring morale down to a new low as they feel they are a used commidity and not part of sun.

    Then if they want shitty indian work then let them. All the American IT staff will have the power to give them the finger and move on.

    1. Re:One word. India by 1lus10n · · Score: 1

      Sun uses Java login cards. basically a blade system sitting on a desk/cubicle with a slot in it, you stick in your card and it pulls up your desktop etc..

      although i am not sure exactly how it works for something like tech support or enterprise services i know for sales, and customer service its pretty much "walk in find an empty desk and work".

      and i can vouch from experience that Sun's employees are mighty pissed about the way the company is going AND that their india based enterprise services suck. (i do enterprise support for Sun, via and outsourcing contract. and hence talk daily with the developers/engineers at sun)

      --
      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." --Albert Einstein
    2. Re:One word. India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The part about the employees not having there own desks is true. They have tiny cubicles with terminals and you have to pray that all the seats are not taken. No employee is assigned a cubicle or desk.

      This is absolutely false. I am an engineer for SUN (I work on the UltraSparc product line). I have a large cube, with books, paperwork and pictures of my kids. Perhaps some job titles at SUN don't come with desks, but I work in Mountain View and I don't know of any like that at my site.

      BTW, I am not a huge fan of SUN (that's why I'm an AC right now). As soon as Broadcom starts hiring again.....

  159. Re:Turning around the company...from the small sid by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    Dude, I think you need some therapy. Going from 40hrs to 70hrs
    and getting a pay CUT is never good.

  160. Three words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Happy fun ball*


    (* Disclaimer: Do not taunt happy fun ball.)

  161. ages ago by Bowdie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked a summer job in a laundry. One day midweek, I looked up from the %meaningless task% I was doing to see the owner of the entire chain helping fold sheets.

    I asked how often he does this, to which he replied "Whenever I feel like a change".

    The girls on the line really liked it. He didn't have his own table at mealtimes, didn't have his own parking space, and you could call him "dave".

    Ace fella. And even though the job was shit, most people were happy at it.

    --
    yes, www.dotcomforwardslash.com is my real URL.
  162. Happy Pills? by LHN · · Score: 1

    You can put Happy Pills in the coffee.

  163. The truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can say what you want about the war, but no one can deny that it created some of the most successful troll threads ever.

  164. Just Let Me Do My Job by Salo2112 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Memo to management:
    1. I want to be left alone to do my job. No OSHA training (I can use a fire extinguisher without any explanation from the "Risk Manager," thank you), no safety training (I could not care less about the MSDS sheets - I'm in an office, for God's sake), no sexual harassment/sensitivity training and no drug awareness in the workplace meetings. Do not waste my time on bullshit meetings/classes that have nothing to do with my job.
    2. I come in early, work late and work on weekends. If you see me leaving or arriving outside of my scheduled hours, don't worry about it: you're way ahead on the deal.
    3. If I can only use my email or web connection for business use, fine: quit allowing people to send broadcast emails about Relay for Life, Blood Drives and Girl Scout Cookies. Either it's for business, or it isn't. Don't allow other people to clutter up my mailbox for "good causes" if I can't send/receive jokes.
    4. I am low maintenance, but is it too much to ask that you *not* turn off the fucking hot water heaters and ac units to save money at 4:00 pm every day? Some of us work outside normal hours.
    5. If one of my cow-orkers misbehaves, I expect that he be punished. I do not expect that new policies be put in place that have the effect of punishing those of use who did not cause the problem to begin with.
    6. Don't lie to me. I'm a big boy, I can handle the truth.
    7. Don't get mad at me when I tell the truth.

    1. Re:Just Let Me Do My Job by koan · · Score: 1

      I suspect that "cow-orkers" was not a mis-spelling.

      --
      "If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
    2. Re:Just Let Me Do My Job by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      No OSHA training (I can use a fire extinguisher without any explanation from the "Risk Manager," thank you), no safety training (I could not care less about the MSDS sheets - I'm in an office,

      To be honest, this is unrealiatic. The company is probably required by law and/or outside forces (such as it's insurance company) to perfrom such training.

    3. Re:Just Let Me Do My Job by Webmoth · · Score: 1

      "4. ...fucking hot water heaters and ac units..."

      I'm sorry, the mental picture just isn't forming. Reproduction of household appliances in this manner isn't something I'm familiar with; what do the offspring look like?

      --
      Give me my freedom, and I'll take care of my own security, thank you.
    4. Re:Just Let Me Do My Job by Salo2112 · · Score: 1

      Sorta like an imac, only bigger. ;-)

  165. From my experience this is my advice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Anyone can get bored in ANY job. That is the simple truth. There is no big explanation. Just realize that. An astronaut can get "bored" about his job believe it or not.

    I came to a point, where I felt the same as you stated both yourself and co-workers feel. I was unchallenged. I came in 9-5/5 days week and did my work. I could do a better job but I did JUST enough to get it done. I had a hard time concentrating and was always worried I'd be the one to be let go of. Understand there are millions of people in IT that would happily take your job who aren't burnt out. But don't let that intimidate you. I found the reason for my unhappiness was the fact I was always worrying. So I didn't enjoy my job. Nothing was "fun" anymore.

    Take a 2 week vacation if you can (take any vacation time early). But understand that you MUST finish up every loose end before you go on vacation otherwise its hard to relax if you are worrying if such and such project got deployed alright etc. Take the two weeks and just relax. Have a good time. Get outside lots. Avoid a computer for more than 10 minutes daily, if that, to check email. Make a list for the two weeks, that contains 3 things each day that you've regretted not doing or had little time to do, or just had always wanted to do it. After the two weeks you will feel amazing.

    Now come back refreshed. Understand that everything is an opportunity. Push yourself to learn new things. You're in web development, but are you just an (X)HTML code monkey? If so you can make it enjoyable (trust me, there are much worse jobs). Learn new tools. Never stop learning. Never be content with thinking you know it all. Learn PHP if you don't know it. Learn Perl if you don't know it. Hell even learn ASP, CFM, Python and other scripting languages if you don't know them. I found the hardest part was "starting". I always wanted to learn these but I felt too "tired" by the end of my 9-5 that I'd just sit and watch tv, and hit refresh on slashdot all night long...hoping...just hoping something exciting would happen to my life. Take it into your own hands. Don't be someone who needs direction from your boss. Make your own direction (but within limits of your boss of course). Your boss will love it when you don't need to constantly ask "what next, what next". Trust me. I started writing a weekly summary of my work including achievements, if the timeline had changed etc. The boss loved it. I would brief him and take only 15 minutes of his time per week. They love this, they really do. Make it a terse, concise single page report that shows all you've achieved in the past week.

    Work hard and play hard. That is my advice. To be an amazing programmer, sysadmin, or whatever the heck you want to be, you don't have to sit on the computer ALL day long. Become more "efficient" so to speak on the computer. Get rid of your instant messaging or at least only use them for 20 minutes/day. Schedule a time that you will regularly hit your daily sites like slashdot, web comics etc. Preferably at night (I know I'm doing this during afternoon).... but by the evening you will be able to get the gist of all the daily news stories... you won't have to hit "refresh" all day. Heck what I even did was stop viewing new slashdot stories altogether for a period of time. I'd only view the day before so I could get "all of friday" today. I cut down on instant messaging and IRC to a point that I'd spend more time with friends going to bars, food, etc. But I'd still get on to chat about code, chicks, various stuff for 30 minutes a day and that would be enough time to "spend" so to speak, all of my energy and rants. My quality of life has improved a lot in my opinion. I'm more happy, and I've had more energy and curiosity to learn new languages and methodologies than ever.

    I know this is somewhat off topic but who cares. Many people in IT suffer from depression and/or stress. They sit in a chair all day or at least a large portion of it. The human body simply

    1. Re:From my experience this is my advice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am going to take a break from my trolling duties to say "Thank You" for an extraordinarily insightful and well-written post. If you had posted this logged-in I'm sure you would have gotten major Karmas.

      I agree with pretty much everything (exactly everything maybe?) that you said & this has given me new incentive to continue my exercise program which has gone a little lax lately.

    2. Re:From my experience this is my advice... by vegetablespork · · Score: 1

      +100, Insightful. Thanks!

      --

      Call (206) 338-5780 COLLECT for information about a genuine BA, BS, MA, MS, MBA, or Ph.D.

  166. UT by HBI · · Score: 4, Funny

    I manage a small infrastructure team (6 people). We take time out at lunch and at the end of the day (after 5) to play a couple maps of UT.

    We name the bots after users we hate, or French presidents.

    After 15 or 20 minutes of intense fragging, morale is restored.

    --
    HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
  167. 11 things developers can do... by javabandit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    11 things developers can do

    (not in any particular order)

    1) Read "Code Complete" and "Design Patterns". Others will be thankful... trust me.

    2) Have pride in what you do. Programming IS an art. It requires talent, practice, motiviation, inspiration, creativity, and experience to write good code. Know your craft.

    3) Eliminate the KINGDOMS on your team. That is, one person should not solely own one part of the system... hence a "king". Make sure at least two people are knowledgeable about one part of a system.

    4) Utilitize tried-and-true design patterns. These are your brushes and your paints.

    5) Be politically aware in code reviews. Take constructive criticism constructively and remove your ego. If a reviewer is suggesting that you make a minor change, and the change doesn't harm anything... DO IT. Being inclusive of others' ideas in your code will make everyone happy.

    6) When reviewing other people's code, don't be superficially critical. Programmers have different styles. A car, on the outside, may not appeal to you, but it doesn't mean that it isn't a well built/designed vehicle.

    7) When designing (or refactoring) portions of code, have design reviews (informal or formal) with at least one other developer. Bounce all your ideas and thoughts. Get ideas and thoughts in return. Use your whiteboard for goodness sakes. That's what it is there for.

    8) Praise other developers when they do well. Programmers need to know when they're doing good as well as bad. Programmers appreciate praise from other programmers more than they do from anyone else.

    9) When you have to be critical of someone else's code, be constructive. Apply honesty with a feather... not with a sledge hammer. Instead of saying, "What the fuck??? You're not threadsafe and possibly creating multi-tons."... say... "Do you think that synchronizing this singleton might work here better... so we're threadsafe?"... for example.

    10) Be consistent in your code. It makes your code more easily maintained by others.

    11) Document. Please write comments. Don't be so egotistical to think that your code is self-documenting. Even in COBOL and Eiffel... the two most verbose languages on the planet... this isn't the case.

  168. Revel in the pain! by schiefaw · · Score: 1

    My officemates and I recite lines from OfficeSpace and make jokes about not getting paid on time and what we will do when it is our turn to go. At first, it makes things worse, but after a while you "feel the burn" and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

    --
    Angleyne: You can't bend that girder - it's unbendable! Bender: Well I don't know anything about lifting, so that ju
  169. listen up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't add anything to a discussion more than "anime is porn" or unemployment whining...then why don't you go somewhere else, because it's getting really annoying.

    Want a job ? Fucking move to where the jobs are, genius. Waiting for the job market to improve in Arizona will not get you a job. I can see many many many jobs that you might be qualified for on pretty much every job board out there.

    But of course, if soaking up unemployment, playing videogames, and whining all day floats your boat, then fine....just don't keep crying about it like a little fucking kid. Grow up and become an adult.

    1. Re:listen up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whatever. post his info away, it'll never change the fact that no one appreciates your idiocy here.

    2. Re:listen up by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 0, Troll



      The previous comment/troll was posted by:


      McDaniel, Scott mcdev@mcdev.com, pipebomb@pipebomb.net

      McDaniel Development
      2139 Old Highway 5 South, and..
      637 Riverside Dr.
      Ellijay, Georgia 30540, United States
      Tel: (706) 698-5112


      Scott McDaniel is my stalker. He has attempted to harass/make himself known to me for several years now. He lives with his mother, and that's her voice in the answering machine message. Every time Mr. McDaniel decides to harass me, another copy of his personal information will be posted immediately afterward. In the past, releaisng his personal information has proven to be an effective deterrant to his behavior.

      --
      Bowie J. Poag

  170. Ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure by ddt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Before you hire on to a company, please, for the love of Pete, find out how it's funded.

    If they started from nothing, got three rounds totalling $100Mish from VC over the past 2-3ish years and don't have a shipping product to show for it, absolutely don't work there. VC money means that the company needs to be on the fast track to acquisition or IPO, which means that layoffs that cut burn rate will make the company more attractive to investors while the product is busy slipping.

    If it's funded by an angel investor or angel pool, then find out everything you can about their personalities, their investment portfolios, how much they're worth and how much this venture, based on its burn rate, is likely to be straining them.

    If it's funded by the people managing it, these, in my experience, are usually the best companies to work for. It's their daily routine on the line, in addition to their cash.

    Find out if management has worked at companies where they've conducted layoffs before. They will likely do it again.

    Find out if the company has ever missed payroll. If they have, do not assume this is a bad thing. Particularly if everyone stayed on board, this can be a positive thing, and it means management doesn't fire people at the first sign of cashflow problems. If missed payrolls happen all the time, then figure out, based on how often it happens, what your actual salary would be, counting the missed paychecks. It's really no different from saying that you are going to be paid a lower salary. As long as you are planning for missed payrolls, they won't really be missed.

    Find out how you are going to split profits on the product. If it's just an ephemeral hand-waving promise that profits will be split, don't take the job. If it's just stock options, don't take the job. If it's going to be a subjective percentage of a pool based on performance, consider taking it if the deciding personalities strike you as fair, well-balanced people. If it's going to be a fixed percentage base with subjective bonuses, then absolutely take the job. None of this is real unless you get it on paper. So make sure you have that piece of paper the day you show up for work.

    Most employees believe in the myth of salaries, and their precious, surprised little faces when they learn that there is no Santa Claus never cease to amaze me. Income comes into most companies in large, unwieldy piles of cash, not perfectly metered little bundies of biweekly love. So understand that salaries are a fiction, that exist to create the illusion of stability while lowering the employee's compensation for work over the long haul. We have come to depend on them because we, as individuals, have lost the discipline to save and manage money.

    Always, always, always ask how much cash is in the bank right now. Always, always, always ask what the company burn rate is. Do the simple math, and plan to start looking for a job 2-3 months before that money runs out, assuming that they won't make a single penny in the interim or enjoy any further loans or investment.

    Watch company growth. Ask every month or two what the new burn rate is. Do curve-fitting to get a more accurate idea of when the bank account goes empty.

    Most people take salaried jobs because they don't want to sweat over the company bank account. Sweat it. You're just burying your head in the sand if you don't. Let the fear of that going zero motivate you. And let the excitement of seeing a percentage of those proceeds motivate you.

    Morale is usually a function of how well the product is coming together. If it's making exciting progress, catching up, or God forbid, surpassing the competition, investors will usually continue to jump on until the product ships. This is always the first-order response for morale. People love working on good product.

    Odds are, if you're in a web development company, your demand has dried up, you're competing with several other development companies also desperate for wo

  171. Re:Lol, I do the same thing. by Cyno · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Shut up. Any business deserves this type of treatment. Most of these jobs are actually worth well over $100k but corps refuse to pay that. Instead they take their labor overseas and hurt our economy that much more.

    The more people that act this way and tell the man where he can stick it the better our economy will be. I'd much rather take my order from a well mannered, hard working and professional employee than someone working for minimum wage because that's the only job they could get.

    I'd also rather work at the local 7-11 than Sun Microsystems. At least down at the 7-11 I can hang out with the store owner and know I'm not going to be in the next round of layoffs.

    Corporations treat people like numbers. Its about fucking time they started getting treated the same.

  172. My Great Suggestion! by bugs_me_too! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Try working for a real employer, like the government. You can gain much more satisfaction by knowing what you do is of service to your country. Be a public servant!

  173. throw balls and scream obscenities by ThrobbingGristle · · Score: 1

    We throw nerf balls at each other and scream obscenities at customers while the phone is muted.

    It seems to help.

  174. One word: Nerf!!! by psyconaut · · Score: 1

    Never underestimate the fun that can be added to a work environment through toys.

    I used to be the CTO of a straight-laced financial software firm. But I had toys and gadgets in my office and you wouldn't believe the attractive to other employees to come fire off a few rounds.

    -psy

  175. wait.. by EvilStein · · Score: 1

    Do not tolerate employees who behave unprofessionally. Problem-solve or fire them.

    I guess that would depend on your version of "professional." At the sweat shop I work in, simply questioning management or asking for a schedule change (because you commute using public transit) is "unprofessional" to them.

    1. Re:wait.. by Loundry · · Score: 1

      I guess that would depend on your version of "professional."

      I think you and I would probably agree as to what we would call professional behavior. I certainly don't agree that questioning management is unprofessional. As an employer, I intend to hire people who have strengths I lack, and thus I would expect them to question me on certain decisions I may make, insofar that they, because of their expertise that I lack (and hired them for) may see things that I don't.

      If your employers are unprofessional, then your workplace is unprofessional -- but I suppose you already knew that. :)

      --
      I don't make the rules. I just make fun of them.
  176. It's simple by weylin · · Score: 1

    Fire all the unhappy people.

    --
    --- Nukes don't kill people psychopathic megalomaniacs do.
  177. IT Employee Burnout at Critical Levels by Sounder40 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    According to this article in E-Commerce Times the Meta Group has just published a paper saying that IT employee burnout is reaching critical levels:
    A majority of IT managers say IT employee burnout is now a serious issue in their organizations, according to a recent study by research firm Meta Group. Among the many areas of high concern to IT departments this year, few are as evident as employee morale, the report states.

    Before I lost my job to a layoff, (my job was outsourced oversees) I was doing the work of several, and constantly worried that layoffs and outsourcing were coming.

    I'm now considering a whole new career in a completely unrelated field...

    --
    A clever person solves a problem, A wise person avoids it. -Einstein
  178. Quitting improved morale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just quit. That improved my morale incredibly. I'm feeling better than in years. I have only so many years left to live, and no way of getting more time, so I'll spend that time doing something that's not crap. You do what you want to do.

  179. It's the econmy stup... oh wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I have been with a particular midsized (when using the formula of mega corporations) which was once known for being THE company to work for as they understood the logic that an empowered and happy employee means more productivity. I am sad to say that time is long gone now but what happens is that management will tout all the lines but without ever really understanding that a lot of people are sick of hearing the empty words (read: every time that line is used in place of action on the part of management it only causes more resentment).

    The thing is, the economy really had nothing to do this if by economy you refer to the outside national and world economy. What has happened is that hard work, dedication, loyalty and quality driven effort has been first placed as secondary, then seen as an uneeded expense and then finally is actively eliminated. One fellow employee said that, "[our company] is in the business of putting asses into chairs." Ethics is something that is just not factored in... sure the word is slung but there is really not a healthy environment conducive to good ethics (and thus those with them are rolled over). Sure, there have been layoffs due to lowered income but usually this has less to do with the state of the economy and everything to do with who pissed who off up top and seeing the shock waves hit the troops down below. What is interesting is how the supreme goal of this organization on a personnel level seems to be to make it as a VP. You do not have to be competent, ethical, honest or professional but just be friends with the right bullshit artists. Normally I would not care about this... let them choke on their own inept bullshit! However, the primary customer of this organization is the US government and usually the DoD. Yes, that means your tax dollars getting put into the pockets of well dressed and well spoken criminals instead of the guys out there fighting and dying that should get it. (Note that when defending their bullshit, they ironically point to the warfighter and adopt this air of patriotic dignity as if that does not point to the fact that they themselves are the problem. Pretty words do tend to work on the weak minded.) When any other opportunity arises people jump ship... those with less scrupples can often be bought out. (I say bought out, because they seem to completely change their tune if they themselves are given money, options, etc... yet the important thing to remember is that no policy (or mindset) changes take place. So the unsrupulous of them prove they are really only looking out for themselves and using the situation for all as a rallying/negotiating point only... reminds me of unions)

    The only way to solve this is with competition. Get big government out of the business of creating and enforcing monopolies and focus on who provides the best products and services for the best value... NOT who has the best golf swing, the best powerpoint slides, or is the wittiest with jokes and pretty words.

  180. Yeah. by Renraku · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I got fired from ClientLogic without warning. The morale of the place among the workers wasn't very good. Seems everyone I talked to had some bitchfest about the place daily. The turnover rate was very high, because they were being bitchslapped around by Bellsouth. Their rules were archaic, and we were stuffed into cubicles, not one, but two at a time. Forced to run programs that crash every five minutes, and forced to be tech support, sales AND customer service. Not to mention that promotion was only a $.10/hr increase in pay. Add to that the fact that the vending machines were always broken and that they regularly lay off half of their staff where I worked, and you get low morale. I heard through the grapevine that we were getting paid $5 less than what we should have. And we were missing benefits. All so the company could profit a little more. ClientLogic was getting paid almost as much for giving us the privilige of working for them as we were busting our asses for them! And they slashed our benefits.

    --
    Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
  181. What not to do. by marhar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If your management team is truly clueless, they are probably not going to appreciate any management hints you are going to provide. If there's some specific details about situations they can address, that's fine, but "here's some tips on how to run a company" are not going to be appreciated.


    So be careful what you say and don't come across as implying they're clueless managers. That's not going to help them and it could hurt you.

  182. Ada (not ADA), Legacy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sure as hell, have seem more legacy code writen in C/C++ then Ada. All of the Ada code I ahve seen is for current modern systems. The OSS project, I am currently starting, will be writen in Ada and Python. This is because these languages are by far thew best tools for the job. The only language that approches the suitability of Ada is Java. C++ just plain sucks. I would just as soon write in ANSI/ISO C. ( The only OOP thing that I have not done in standard C is Templets. But this is realy using the wrong tool for the job.)

  183. Re:Lol, I do the same thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't have a girlfriend either, do you?

  184. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It is much less pressure, if people are asked to be in at certain time, get out at a certain time (unless there are deadlines and other situations).

    Two points:

    1) There may be less work pressure, but some of us have lives outside of work. Where I work right now, my ay typically runs from 10-6 or so, with a couple of extra hours work in the evening. So I'm putting in more than 40 hours a week - but I get to avoid the morning and evning traffic, and spend more time with my family. It's a heck of a benefit to me, and has cost my company little or nothing.

    2) In today's economy, there are always deadlines and "other situations". If you haven't read it already, go find a copy of Yourdon's "Death March". It's an easy read, and the final chapter - "Death March as a Way of Life" - it pretty much on-target, in my experience. Whatever you're working on is always absolutely, vitally, critical anymore... because if you won't treat it that way, there's someone else who will.

  185. Just remember... by stienman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just remember, it's your employer's job to make sure you are happy and have meaningful, challenging and fun projects. You are the customer, and they must do all within their power to satisfy you so you'll deign to come to work the next day.

    Come off it. This is a job. It is only as lifeless and painful as you yourself make it. There is fun to be had in debugging someone else's work, if you decide to have fun with it, or even the most tedious/boring projects.

    Please note that those employees who are happy are generally more productive, and get fired last.

    If you're waiting for your employer to "make" you happy, it'll never happen, you jaded cynic.

    If you feel you cannot be happy without them being proactive about it then you'd best look for a job elsewhere.

    Believe me, they'll say "Good riddance."

    -Adam

  186. If you are going to complain... by Quantum+Skyline · · Score: 1

    complain responsibly.

    No one likes an incessant whiner, but you can greatly improve morale by offering _good_ and _realistic_ suggestions that management can actually implement.

    It will improve morale because it appears that managers listen and are implementing your suggestions, and management looks good because they have a happy work force.

  187. The hoodwinking of workers by corporate america by xenophrak · · Score: 1

    IANAC (I am not a communist) ...but

    Does it surprise anyone that as we progress as a nation, more and more restraints are placed on workers and tools of success are removed?

    All you have to do is look at Enron, the poster-child for this movement. Over the last 30 years, power has moved from the populace via the Government, to corporations via soft money. We are all working for their greed, and unlike the past, that greed does not represent gain for the rest of the economy.

    We are now at the mercy of corporations and their greed. No longer do we have protection from these entities overstepping their bounds, just ask your insurance agency, bank or credit card company to stop spreading around your personal private financial information. They will tell you that doing so lowers prices, but in actuality increases premiums for those with poor reports, that may not be totally under their control, yet does not empirically lower your outlay.

    More and more money is being extracted from us to feed the elite who control the multi-nationals. Every action taken in the name of efficiency by a corporation is simply to reduce costs to improve shareholder (preferred that is) wealth. Why do you think that the free markets of the world are moving towards non-tangible means to measure a company's wealth? The simple answer is because without a real standard to base stock prices on, they can effectively move more money to traders of large blocks of stock and to not pay dividends. Again, ask yourself why people's 401K's were raped when the economy lost it's verve? Because the smaller trading houses that needed leverage to compete against the large houses were locked out of salvaging their investments, which the analysts who made millions for their partners with large trading-block control suddenly couldn't predict the downturn.

    This trend indicates an exhaustion of opportunity and moral resources that will push America to the brink of annihilation. Because of the loss of strengths such as egalitarianism and social consciousness, we are left to believe that the current economic climate of layoffs and the trend towards outsourcing is just and makes financial sense.

    The adage today is that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. While the reports are that there are more millionaires today than ever before is factually correct, look at why that is, and you should be astonished. Corporations are creating a welfare state that is dependant on credit, and sanctioning increases in salary, while simultaniously seeking to raise prices to keep people happy and convinced that we are making great strides in the capitolization of our workers. But in actuality, we are devaluing our populace because corporations are free to seek greener pastures instead of forming a symbiotic relationship with the country that spawned them.

    Before this post takes a Matrix or Marxist bend, I suggest that you all read "Atlas Shrugged." I think it's time to start the dismantling of our corporate infrastructure in favor of a more just set of relationships.

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  188. YOU are part of the problem by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 1

    That's really all I have to say. I'm sure somebody else will step in and explain why. Grow up. I'll earn my karma on other comments ...

  189. Layoffs are the problem by Damien+Neil · · Score: 1

    Your problem is obvious--the constant layoffs. Without doing something about them, nothing anybody does will help.

    Layoffs are sometimes necessary, especially in poor economic times. The critical thing is to do them once and get it over with. Figure out how many people you can afford to employ for the next year, and cut down to that size. Then tell the remaining people that their job is secure for at least a year. It's painful, but people will understand the financial need--and they won't looking over their shoulders, wondering if they're next on the hit list.

  190. You think that's downsizing? by hacker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The company went from over 500 people to under 200 in under two years.

    My last job (incidentally, 70 weeks ago, unable to find work since) required me to relocate 3,100 miles from the Right coast to the Left coast, to work for them, leaving a very stable job behind. A week after I got there, my hiring manager was fired, along with 76 other people. We were 250 people at the time.

    Over the next 14 months, we went through 5 rounds of layoffs, including the last one which liquidated my entire department, leaving me as the only person standing. Even my boss was let go.

    In 18 months time, we had gone from 250 people to 30, and were on our 4th CEO. All three founders had resigned, two failed merger deals (one with a company that just recently bit the dust themselves), two sexual harassment suits pending against the first CEO and his team, and it only got worse from there.

    We originally had free vending machines, but those were soon turned into pay-only machines. The senior management team had free parking in a mostly-empty garage space, and we had to pay $20.00-per-day to park across the street. The middle-management groups were internally promoting themselves, laying off more and more people, and making the remaining people work longer and longer hours, for less pay. We were earning (as developers) roughly 1/4 of what the managers were earning at the time. They were working 4-day weeks, 5 hour days, feet up on the desks, while we were camping in the offices overnight sometimes to meet customer deliverables.

    Every day, people would come in wondering if "..they were next". That's not a nice way to come to work, not wondering if you're going to lose your job, but when.

    In November 2001, I decided to pack up my things, and resign. The company wasn't going to survive a 6th round of layoffs, and now with the board in control, they had changed direction, completely tarnishing their name with the Open Source community. I moved back 3,100 miles to the Right coast, and haven't been able to find a job since (yes, it's incredibly tough out here).

    After I left, they worked on a product, and after the remaining developers completed version 1.0 of the product, and delivered it, they were all fired, en-masse.

    How's that for morale for you?

  191. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by weeboo0104 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The key to flex time is to notify your co-workers when you will be arriving. I have co-workers who arrive at 6am and leave at 2 or 3 and other co-workers (boss included) who arrive at 10am and leave at 6 or 7pm. As long as everybody knows when people will be around, everybody seems to be very understanding.

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  192. How to increase morale. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have a whole lot to say on the how to increase it, but I can definitely throw out a few pointers on how NOT to do it.

    I once worked for a company contracting in tech support for another major tech company in the Boise, Idaho area. The morale there was so low people often didn't bother even calling in to say "stuff it, I quit" when they finally decided that complete destitution would be of greater benefit than showing up for the daily abuse.

    The first things that I recall about the place was the feeling that although we really were skilled technicians, is that we were treated like cattle. We were herded from bay to bay (a bay is a group of workers in one large cubicle) depending upon how things were working that day, what we would be doing, and how many people showed up for work that day. We were numbered, and given a position to sit at. We had no personal space whatsoever. At one time, we were able to have personal effects since we didn't get moved around as much, but the biggest hit to my morale was when they asked us to take out "personal things" home. There was no comfort. We couldn't even enjoy a friendly familiar wallpaper on our computers.

    The second thing that comes to mind on what not to do is an incident we called "black wednesday". We were going through a "low point" in technical support due to summer months (where there aren't that many holidays to make an excuse for buying product, it happened every year). We were all happily riding a wave of good availablity to work on issues and taking some time to relax when suddenly a commotion arose. We all looked across the large room that we were in to see a group a whole "bay" of people being herded out. Their work badges were obviously being confiscated and they was no doubt that if their badges were being confiscated that they would never make it back in the building. A moment later one of the "floor supervisors" came by and told us that they had been "layed off" due to lack of work. In actuality they were temporary workers with no rights apparently, and they were never reassigned. Which equated to being fired. In that building the line between being a temp and being an actual "hired on" worker didn't exist. If someone from the temp agency went, be happy that it wasn't you. The biggest hit came the next day when we were obviously slammed out of our minds with tech calls and no one to pick up the slack and we were told that we were understaffed due to "natural attrition".

    I leave it up to you... slashdotters. What do you think? Cattle, or people? Lies, or truth? lets not get down to your fuzzy happy ass benefits package... how about the basic rights a person is due. Like being called by their first name and not being lied to on a daily basis because we can so easily be replaced.

  193. Icing does nothing without cake by wdr1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's more stable now, but people are consistently laid-off.

    This is the problem. You have to lump the bad news and spread out the good. Employees are willing to understand layoffs. People are surprisingly understanding of how a buisness needs to adapt, and how that adapation can, unfortunetly, lead to layoffs. As long as you take care of those being laid off (e.g., solid serverence pay, extension of health benifits, assistance finding a new job, etc.), both those let go and those staying behind will show suprising resiliance.

    However, if your consistently laying off people, that means upper management does not have a clue of what is going on, and will undercut any confidence in the company. People need to be able to focus on their day to day responsiblities and get their job done; not worry if they're going to have a job in 48 hours.

    All the other suggestions, flex-time, etc. are great, but you have to fix the fundamental problem before you can get to those. If you have a bad transmission, you don't try to fix it by getting a pair of fuzzy dice.

    -Bill

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  194. Silence. by xmnemonic · · Score: 1
    Employers: what have you done to improve employee morale in your company? As an employee, what can I do to improve the morale in the people I work with? How can I make my work environment more enjoyable? What kind of constructive suggestions can I take to management so that they can help improve the situation?
    Do not question our ways.
  195. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by Fesh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Heh. I don't have to imagine that because the staring into submission doesn't work on me. The easiest way to get me to dig in my heels is to try to exert peer pressure.

    They chose to come in late. Screw them guys, I'm going home.

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  196. How about birthday cake by punkfoo · · Score: 1

    ... and a large banner that says "Is this good for the company?"

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  197. ha ha ha. by Erris · · Score: 0, Troll
    This is soooo true. I have flex hours, I can work 6am-2pm, 2pm-10pm, or 9-5. I can work at home, or my office, thanks to things like a VPN and Avaya IP Softphone [avaya.com]. ... When your work load starts to be equal to that of 2 or 3 (or more!) head count, and you know that if you push yourself that you can do it..

    So, you work from 6AM to 10pm every day, including your two "casual days", saturday and sunday.

    you realize that doing this work will save your job for the months to come so you do it, and 2) you realize that your boss doesn't really care if you sit in an office or the recliner in your home... as long as the work gets done

    Months to come, then you are fired and so is your boss.

    Ahhh, the real world. It's such a moral booster.

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  198. Become a Manager by serutan · · Score: 1

    As a contractor I've worked at a number of companies where morale was very low, and WITHOUT EXCEPTION the managers at these places have been pointy-haired boss types. Some of them technically illiterate, most with serious communication problems, and all incapable of thinking in terms other than budget and deadline.

    At the places with high morale, again WITHOUT EXCEPTION, the managers have been technically savvy, good communicators, realistic about what can and can't be done with given resources, and able to inspire (by example) commitment to quality.

    I think management is a talent like any other. You can awaken that talent with education, but you really can't teach people how to be good managers if they aren't innately able. Unfortunately the number of management positions in our economy exceeds BY FAR the number of people who have talents for the job.

    So my recommendation to you is to move into management yourself, and see if you are one of those people who can do it right. You definitely have the right motivation. Too many people are in management because they just want to make more money. The fact that you are interested in improving the situation, and are actually looking for ways to do it, sets you apart already.

  199. Re:Join the Army! by DohDamit · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    INFORMATIVE!?!?! STUPID SHITHEADS. Do your fucking homework. He did not say Osama Bin Laden. He said "ABU NIDAL". Gore was NOT on that panel. As for the Atta story...IT WAS A DIFFERENT ATTA, MORON! FUCKINGGODAMSTUPID MOTHERFUCKERS. FUCK. Look, read my other posts, you'll see where I stand. I am NOT a liberal in any sense of the word. I am educated, and I do my fucking homework. STOP SPREADING LIES.

  200. no, it's "firings" by Erris · · Score: 2, Insightful
    isnt that "Beatings will continue until morale improves" ? :)

    What, are you nuts? You can't break an employee by beating them. They just get all upity about their dignity and what not. No, as long as everyone keeps their jobs no one is really scared.

    Look at it this way: It takes 20 years and a pension to make truely loyal employees. It takes about two years, regardless of beatings, to make a technically competent employee. It only takes about six months of unemployment to turn a man into the cynical, sniviling yes man that management desires. Which do you think management prefers?

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  201. I may be going out on a limb here. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    But, I don't think a company is stable that has to be consistently laying off people.

  202. Generally easy for techno people by IanBevan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A couple of simple rules have always helped me with the morale of my team. If morale is poor, I nearly always point at one of these things and realise that I/my company is not doing it: 1. Clear, achievable deadlines
    2. The best tools and equipment for the job (within reason obviously)
    3. Insulation from the most insideous company politics and hopeless project managers.
    4. Wages in the upper bracket of the industry for each role

    1. Re:Generally easy for techno people by JollyFinn · · Score: 1

      You missed the thing Techno people<\EM>, would love from their work. A set large high quality speakers.

      -Good speaker<EM> not <\EM> in sence better than George W.

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  203. how about not trying to destroy morale by zackbar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My current client seems to not understand this.

    They have been implementing actively stupid policies.

    First, they outlawed accessing email from yahoo and other web email services. Rationale? They couldn't enforce virus scanning on those systems. Why is this stupid? Because the same email virus scanners that our exchange server uses is also on every machine, so that the same scan gets performed on our exchange email OR our web email. (Policy states that if we don't keep up on the latest scanner patch, we will get fired.) Since I never run javascript and I've been paranoid about viruses before anyone else there, I'm ticked. Even worse, for the first 6 months there, they hadn't given me email on their system, so I had to use web email (before they implemented this policy.) I had signed up for various developer forums using my yahoo address. Various developer emails have been sent to me at that address that I can't access from work anymore.

    Recently, I discovered that they decided that people don't need to be able to change their own network passwords. If we need to change it, we have to talk to the help desk. The help desk has total domain control of the network. We don't, although we're the ones who actually set up the web and sql servers, did various maintainence on them, and are the ones that the help desk come to when they can't figure out how to clear the cache on their machines. (I exaggerate on that last bit, but not too much.)

    Why did they decide to not allow password changing? Rationale, according to the network admin (the little hitler) is that users can't remember their passwords if they change them. Rationale according to the cio is that management needs to know everyone's passwords in case anything happens. When I tried to explain that the domain admin can login to any machine regardless, and even change our password, it was waved away. I was asked if it's really all that inconvient to have the help desk change it. Even more annoying, the help desk doesn't know our passwords. They simply let us change them on their machines. All I can figure is that I'm either being lied to, or management has no clue what they are doing. Not a morale boost.

  204. no way! by Erris · · Score: 1
    Looks like you've found out why he's management at a Uni and not corporate. A decent leader would recognize the opportunity to change the failed project he's authorized into a winner without losing face.

    I've met way dumber and more stuborn people in the corporate world than this. In fact, a really evil bastard would have blamed the underling for the bad decision and used his 40 page report to make himself look good. Those types don't make it in a university environment where people plan to work till they retire and know everyone's tricks.

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  205. Promotion? Also, read "Peopleware" by mib · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm amazed to see so many suggestions regarding promotion possibilities -- I wonder if you all work in a different IT industry to me. I'm only 30 (don't laugh), but I'm already as high up the technical career ladder as it's possible to be at my workplace (and changing jobs would be a demotion based on the job ads I've seen). To get any higher I'd have to become a manager, which doesn't yet excite me. Isn't there more to a career than just climbing the ziggurat?

    Anyway, if you are a manager, the best advice I can give is to find a copy of Peopleware: Productive Projects and Teams, read it, and use its advice. It's a thin book, but it is +100 Insightful when it comes to employees. Some links on the book:

  206. yikes! by Erris · · Score: 1
    ,i>writing shitty reports and query utilities with Visual Basic (the only thing I've been able to use out of concern for future maintenance--it has to be able to be modified by Joe Random Coder).

    Having worked there for five years, you must see the folly and instability of VB. M$ has consistently knifed their VB programers in the back with changes that require recoding. Soon, I'm afraid they will abandon VB alltogether.

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  207. Get rid of H1-Bs by fanatic · · Score: 1

    When the "work for 1/3 the pay and do whatever management says, no matter how absurd, or be deported" crew is gone, management will have to start treating us like human beings again.

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  208. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by rocjoe71 · · Score: 1
    Yup, got all that stuff too-- work still sucks alot of the time.

    Best way to improve company morale? Get the boss to stop acting like a know-it-all jerkface.

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  209. "Joking" about layoffs/termination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After several rounds of layoffs and terminations, managers should realize that employees might be a tad sensitive to jokes regarding such things. It would improve my morale to tar and feather the big boss who keeps joking about our "Employment Continuation Program".

    Grrrrr!

  210. Improving company morale? by Linknoid · · Score: 2, Funny
    Well, if you put a magician in a support slot, it gives +4 base morale. You could also put a paladin to reduce the morale loss rate. Here is where you can get more info on other units.

    (This is supposed to be a humorous Kohan reference, in case any moderators think this is offtopic)

  211. Here's an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's an idea

    STOP FIRING PEOPLE!

    I don't know why noone's thought of this before, but it seems that the greatest cause of low morale is MASS, RANDOM LAYOFFS!

  212. Re:Turning around the company...from the small sid by scaramush · · Score: 1

    You know, I really, really, *really* hope you have an equity stake in the company. Your trust in the owners is scary, and I'd like to think you're getting something for all this nutbusting. Do you really think they're going to reward your loyalty? I can appreciate working hard because of the satisfaction you get from a job well done, but surely there are other work places out there that would offer you the same satisfaction AND fairly compensate you.

    I'd hate to hear from you in 2-3 years when the company goes belly up (or the owners decide to "rip it apart" again) and you've got NOTHING to show for your work but an empty life (because you've been working 70 hour weeks) and empty nest egg (because you took a 60% paycut).

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  213. GlobexScorpio! by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    So Globexcorp is a criminal organization bound to take the world...

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  214. Reading comprehension for Dummies 101 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the last sentence sums it up: "Well... needless to say... he was canned a few months later by a clueless superior. "

    The original poster thinks the superior was clueless for firing the one guy who had clue.

    1. Re:Reading comprehension for Dummies 101 by FreshFunk510 · · Score: 1

      Good point. :)

      When I read that last sentence, I didn't parse "clueless" as pertaining to the direct subject matter at hand. I guess it's because it's my assumption that superiors, in refernence to this thread, were just cluess in general. :)

      My mistake. I skimmed it the first time and interpreted it quite the opposite.

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  215. Read my reply to the "other guy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think, do you want to read and comprehend?

  216. Taking advatage of opportunites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    I have been laid off from jobs and I have missed many bullets.

    One of my previous companies outsourced our whole department to a bunch of people in another state for half the pay we were getting. That sucked. But they gave us three months to try and get another job within the company. Most of the 25 people in our department took this time to play Quake and Warcraft over the company LAN. A few of us worked on our resumes and web sites. And then our boss told us that free training was being made available. Only five signed up, and three of them never showed. I showed. I took every class they gave me, and if one guy didn't show, and his slot was something I didn't have already, I took that. On days with no classes, I spent on the web studying FAQs and reading Slashdot to see what was new and fresh.

    Because of this, I got a job within the company just days before the end. I got a great pay raise, too. Doing something I never did before, which while it turned out that it was run by a terrible manager, it gave me the stepping stone and breathing room to find another, much better job elswhere. I am now making almost 3 times the pay in the industry now, and love what I do.

    I learned something from that experience. To keep learning. Take advantage of opportunites as they arise.

    Sure, a lot of companies don't give a flying fark about you, your family, and you're just a number hidden in a @sum column in some spreadsheet. Some bosses suck so bad, they create a false vacuum in their cubicle that makes your ears pop. In fact, unless you are working for some small business, I can almost guarantee that a majority of the company doesn't know who you are or what you do. There's nothing you can do about that. You can't control what others do, only how you react.

    Right now? I am learning Linux, BSD, C, Perl, and a ton of other things. I fully realize, at any moment, no matter how good a job I do, I may get laid off. I can't control that, and worrying about it, or acting like a victim, flopping about like a defenseless overturned turtle isn't going to help. I could be justifiably bitter, playing Quake Arena on the company LAN until the accounting department makes a formal complaint about the noise. That is a choice I can make. It is also a choice I can make to see if I can do my job better with a new programming language. In the last two years, I saved my department several hundred thousand dollars by migrating to Linux, even though I was told "it's not worth it," and "no one will agree to it, we're Windows material all the way, right or wrong." But then M$S would not give us a site license. Our budget was sliced in half, and we couldn't afford to upgrade *and* pay M$. I said, "I have the prefect answer."

    That's when column AJ1230 on the spreadsheet noticed me, and that did a lot for my group's morale. :)

  217. Maybe they think techies are assholes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because techies like you don't understand what they read...

  218. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you think those guys come in late???

    How about the fact that they have smartened up? If the company is going to ride you for all the extra unpaid overtime hours, then you might as well come in as late as possible seeing as you're having to stay there the extra hours whether or not you have done your typical 8.

    There is no such thing as peer pressure as everyone is worked like a dog and feels the same way. The pressure is from the knuckleheads "managing" the company.

  219. Frag the boss! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We play deathmatch a hour a day.

    Hell, I own the company and I know what it costs me, but it really cuts down the stress level and everyone loves it.

  220. INFORMATIVE?!?!?!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, who on earth rated the above flame bait informative?

    There's a happy worker here, and someone who assumes he's working all the times he's at home. That's BS.... having flex time means you make your schedule, except for the emergencies that come along, when an emergency comes, you fix it, that doesn't change if you're working 9-5 in an office or 10-6 at home. You are paid to do a job. If you do it right, and are happy then there's no need to worry. Sure, you COULD get downsized, then again, the US could get bombed with a few nukes from North Korea, here's an idea. Enjoy your life, if you like where you're working, and they give you some freedoms, say thank you very much and spend the money well.

  221. Start a cult by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    Make your company a cult. You never heard about bad morale at Heaven's Gate.

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  222. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by sonali · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I wonder how many hours does an employee really work in a 9-5 work shift? To name some things that can't be categorised under "work": surfing the net(reading /. for example), reading mail, lunch hours.

    So instead the employee should be given a free reign to decide when he wants to work. IMO, flexible hours lead to better productivity as it gives the employee the chance to choose a work schedule that suits him the best.

  223. Read this by Zelph · · Score: 1

    A great book called "Leadership and Self Deception: Getting out of the Box" couldn't be more highly recommended. Get it, read it, apply it.

  224. Re:Workplace democracy, income distribution by gpvillamil · · Score: 1

    This link contains a good analysis of changes in income distribution in the US:

    Pyramidal Economics

  225. Dress codes by ShadowDrake · · Score: 1

    Why not a dress code no more complex than "if your gender-specific components are covered, you're cool?".

    The disadvantages of dull clothes include:

    1. High costs. I can easily dress in a T-shirt and shorts for under USD 50. A three piece suit, not so readily. Expensive clothing just stretches budgets further.

    2. Low climate adaptability. Cut energy costs by running the office at 84 degrees? Let people wear shorts, and they'll be a lot happier.

    3. Low zing factor. Fifty grey suits will not excite people's minds. No, that's not meant in the filthy sense.

    4. Impression of pettiness. If it's not affecting the work you do, why does it matter what you're wearing? If they're paying you to look at you dressed up a certain way as you work, then they should start shoving your paycheque down your pants!

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    It's just like a fascist dictatorship, without the punctual rail service!
  226. Here's how to fix it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The way to fix this problem is to get another job either working for yourself (it's hard, but it's fun!), or join a company where your boss actually writes code. If your boss isn't writing code, he does not have the skills to manage you. It's as simple as that.

    I've been to visit a big company recently where this is the case. They have their shit together, and they are profitable, and their employees are happy. I've worked for (and at, as a contractor) a company where the manager's don't write code, and frankly, many of their programmers didn't, either. They let most of the department go when I left.

    -D

  227. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by cmacb · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "The notion of flexible hours in startups has become "come late, leave late". If someone wants to start the work day at 7am in the hopes of getting out by 4 or 5 and get a life, there is almost palpable tension from the glares of coworkers who amble into work sometime at 10am or 10:30am. More so, if the bosses themselves are late comers."

    More often, in my experience, it is the other way around. I've always been a night owl. My last job had an equal number of late comers and early birds. I was almost always the last one out of the office at night, sometimes including the night guard who locked up everything around 10PM.

    I envy the person who can work at home whenever they feel like it. I had this luxury for about 2 years. The trick of course is that both you and your manager (or customer) must have a good idea of what the job is that you are doing so that you can agree on when it is 10 percent done, 50 percent done, or finished. These days, there are way too many manager that have never done any of the technical work that they manage. They don't have a clue what you are doing or how you do it. They don't know good quality from bad quality until the end user complains. I would rather work as a greeter at Walmart than work in one of these organizations again. I have no respect for the managers involved, and if you sign on to one of their projects you are doomed to fail even if your own work is beyond comparison.

    At some point, and maybe we have already reached it, production of good software must be it's own reward, since the captains of industry don't seem to know good from bad. Results are slowly comming in from projects farmed out to cheap labor overseas and it ain't pretty. This has nothing to do with intelligence or talent of those workers who do work over there for a fraction of what we are used to getting paid. It has instead to do with the total inability of management to conceptualize (much less document) the products that they are trying to turn out.

    It is unfortunate but true, these failures will not result in the perpetrators getting fired for incompetence. Rather they will be so monumental that they will cause businesses or at least divisions to be closed down entirely. As poor as mid management is at evaluating the quality of our work as programmers and technicians, top management is even *worse* at evaluating the results of mid-level managers. In almost every case the solutions will be too-little too-late.

  228. Promote parties. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With many games and even child play, why not? It's sure fun!

    My favourite is that with people running around chairs... the music stops and people seat.

    Very funny! :-P

  229. Do the opposite of my company by theirpuppet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My Company:
    - Long Hours (all employees are salaried and must work a minimum of 50 scheduled hours per week).
    - Low pay (because of the economy, you are told from the beginning that they will pay you less than you're worth)
    - Little Vacation (1 week per year, 3 sick days)
    - Psycho Managers (very senior management love to fire people, even have one that brags about it)

    Your Company:
    - Expect more (schedule 40, if possible, higher more people especially if you're profitable or economically well off)
    - Pay what they deserve. A little less, due to the economy is fine, but not a lot less. As soon as the econ picks up, they're history.
    - Time off is essential. The more you hedge them in, the more they notice and want to get out.
    - Management must care, and be open. We do have many (if not most) that genuinely care. You can't fake it - you're employees are not rats in a cage.

  230. Think Happy Thoughts by BakaBaka · · Score: 1

    As a manager, the power to make employees more comfortable is HUGE. Free soda, participative scheduling, food at meetings, etc. As an team member, it's limited to your immediate circle. 1) Decide that you're working there because you WANT TO BE. Although it may not be easy to get a new job, convincing yourself that you can just walk away if it gets worse is the equivalent of a soothing mantra. 2) Sugar is great. When someone on my team calls in late, he/she often picks up donuts on the way in. When I've got a few days off, I bake (and bring in half the booty for my office). Most of us have a candy stash, and perk up our overworked teammates with chocolate and sympathy. 3) Actually listen to each other. A group of workers who sympathize and agree with each other can sometimes be more productive than a group competing for bonuses and favors. If it's gotta be us against them, the "us" might as well be playing together. Plus, you can cut off repetitive whining with "Preaching to the choir!" 4) Make life easier for your coworkers and they'll do the same for you. If you know Bob has a great vacation planned for May, offer to cover his projects so he'll cover your in June. If you work out your own plan for an efficient schedule, Management won't have to impose theirs.

  231. Take it from the Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The beatings will continue until morale improves."

  232. This Works-But Company must be willing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Step 1: Dump 90% of all the other "suggestions"

    Step 2: Run out and buy the paperback version of "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. Covey. Read it and practice it yourself for 30 days (count starts after you finish the book). It is worthless sitting on a bookshelf . Don't be afraid to use a highlighter. It also may be tax deductable.

    Step 3: Convince your boss, HR and/or upper management to by a copy for EVERYONE in the company with a requirement to read it. Yes it includes the dock workers, maintenance people, and the janitors. You will understand after you read the book.

    Step 4: Have the company create a plan based on what they have learned from the book and implement it.

    Results: Morale and layoffs will no longer be an issue and the company will grow to eventually own its market.

    What happens if you follow the book but the company refuses to buy into it?

    The company is no longer worth your time. You need to find another job with a company that will appreciate your real worth. This company does not. Try their competitors first. If they hire you, and follow your suggestions, they will own the market and your former company.

    If you can't get a job with a competitor, then use the books advise and find a different company to work for that has principles and values. Your paradigm has been shifted and you no longer need to be a victim of your previous job.

    If you abandon the book or Step 2, you deserve what you got.

    The solution sounds easy but it is the most difficult thing you will ever have to do - especially Step 2. If you can make it through Step 2 your are home free.

  233. Ways to improve by brandonsr · · Score: 1

    1. Get a boss that says "yeah..." alot 2. Hire two people named Bob to do the lay offs 3. Make posters with company slogans like "what can YOU do for the company" and you're set. ;)

  234. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 1
    There's something to be said for working a strict 9am-5pm schedule (that most people don't think about).

    When you come into the office by 9am and leave at 5pm, you are communicating a message to your peers that you get your shit done, you get it done in the time allotted, and then you leave because you don't need to stay late.

    In time (provided you are actually getting said shit done and done well), it becomes a point of respect that you have other priorities but that first and foremost you are handling your business.

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  235. I don't see why by ledestin · · Score: 1
    One clearly should know about customers and their needs (and how those needs fulfilled with the company's product), but how would knowledge of selling trade help a developer?

    Not that it wouldn't be useful, it just doesn't seem to be *that* necessary.

    1. Re:I don't see why by FreshFunk510 · · Score: 1

      The same way knowing a bit about technology can help make a sales person seem more knowledgable.

      I.e. if a developer/software architect knows what sells better (in terms of products, features and services) it can definitely influence future projects (or projects in the pipeline) to things that rake in more revenue.

      [A more specific scenario] My friend who is a developer created a relationship with engineers from company X [Microsoft :)]. Due to those good relationships, he was able to contract more and more projects for them and the total revenue from company X soon equaled half the revenue of the company. Sure you might say that's just "common sense" but networking is definitely a sales concept.

      Much like knowing why Java is platform-independent may explaining to other business people why Java is the superior choice.

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  236. Taylors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this a Taylors, SC company?

  237. umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    upper-management seems not to understand what we do.

    so liquidate upper management. that'd sure as fuck cheer me up.

  238. Re:Morale? As Drew Carey once said... by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 5, Funny


    Aww, you hate your job?

    There's a support group for that. It's called everybody, we meet at the bar.

    See you there!

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  239. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by tgburrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I work at a 24-7 operations center where people are constantly arriving and leaving. To coordinat work and projects asynchronos communication, such as email, voicemail, and ticket tracking software are used. 30 minutes is nothing and can easily be worked around if you do it properly.

  240. How to make your employees happy: by crazyphilman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a currently very happy employee myself, I can tell you what specific conditions exist at my job that make me happy. Most of these conditions are a function of the job being A) unionized, and therefore solid with good benefits and a living wage, and B) in government, so there is a well-thought out bureaucracy in place to keep things running smoothly. BUT, the specific happiness inducing effects shouldn't be too hard to replicate in private industry -- IF the bosses want them to be. So, as a public service message from moi, here are the factors which lead to happiness:

    1. Pay your employees a living wage, and AT LEAST give them medical and dental. Note that this doesn't mean you have to make them rich! But if you're not paying them at LEAST in the 40K range, they're going to be too busy worrying about getting their rent money together, to worry about YOUR work. In places like NYC or Boston, better make that 60K or your employees will be living in cardboard boxes.

    2. Don't breathe down your employees' necks. Where I work, the bosses leave you alone as long as you produce. So, if your employees aren't missing deadlines, leave them alone and let them do their stuff. When managing programmers (as with herding cats) less == more. Just tell them to keep you posted on their progress, at least once a week (say, Friday before COB). If you need to find out how something is doing, ask casually (this is good because it shows interest and lets the programmer know he's not forgotten). The trick is to LET the programmers produce instead of trying to force it. You'll find they come to YOU to tell you how things are going, because people like to talk about what they're doing. And they'll like you more (this does matter).

    3. Don't be anal about when programmers come and go. We're not the most precise people when it comes to getting up in the morning, or going home at night. We may get in a half hour late and leave two hours late at night -- you get a free hour and a half, and we barely notice. But if you enforce business hours, we get pissed and come in and leave on a much more exact schedule.

    4. Casual dress code. This means, generally, something comfortable but tasteful, like jeans and a polo shirt. Don't enforce the whole "dockers and sky blue shirt" thing (god, that is SO over), or (worse) suits. If you're uncomfortable, you're worried about stretching your shirt collar, not coding that loop. This doesn't mean you have to let them walk in in a kilt and a see-through rubber shirt, either. But, let them be comfy.

    5. Cubicle decoration (within the limits of good taste) should be encouraged. A cluttered, chaotic cubicle is a happy, productive cubicle. A pile of paper on a desk is a sign of activity. Don't sweat stuff like this.

    6. Coffee. Lots of coffee. Don't skimp on the sugar and half-and-half, either, or no one will drink the coffee and that's like no coffee. Any old coffee pot will do as long as the coffee is a reasonable, good brand and when people notice the pot is empty, they can set a new one on to brew. I can't stress the importance of caffeine and sugar to programmers enough. They WILL find ways of acquiring it; if you don't supply it, they'll be taking breaks to make coffee runs. Which do you prefer; three minutes to fill the mug at the office coffee pot, or fifteen minutes to walk a block to the Starbucks, with you playing Spy Games to figure out who's going where and when?

    7. When nothing serious is going on, let the programmers do pilot projects that will eventually be good for the department. You can direct this a little; if you know, say, that you're going to be using some specific set of email tools, mention it to a programmer who isn't too busy and ask him to fiddle around with it and see what he can make it do. Then, keep the source code around for when the project ramps up. Remember: idle hands are the devil's playthings.

    That's about all you have to do, really, to keep people happy. Leave them alone, let them do their thing, keep up the supply of interesting things to do, don't push them unless you really have to, feed them lots of coffee, and let them dress comfortably.

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    1. Re:How to make your employees happy: by NickFitz · · Score: 1
      That's about all you have to do, really, to keep people happy. Leave them alone, let them do their thing, keep up the supply of interesting things to do, don't push them unless you really have to, feed them lots of coffee, and let them dress comfortably.

      I've worked at places like this. Funnily enough, they always seem to be managed by people who used to write code, and owned by people who know how to listen to their management. It's so simple, you'd think the rest of the industry would have cottoned on by now. Then again, our species' capacity for exalting mediocrity never ceases to astonish me.

      I'm not surprised you're happy in your work. I hope it keeps up for you :-)

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    2. Re:How to make your employees happy: by crazyphilman · · Score: 1

      Thanks! It's true, most shops like mine are run by ex-programmers; my boss used to do mainframe work. Sadly, I don't think most businesses will catch on; there was a great quote whose source I forget, which goes something like this:

      "Human beings learn lessons, but then forget them almost immediately; this causes them to have to go through all the pain of learning the lesson over and over again, forever."

      Kind of like Sisyphus pushing the stone up the hill, isn't it? Ah, well... ;)

      Phil

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  241. Play games and get drunk. by supabeast! · · Score: 2

    When I was working at a dying dotcom that was on its way out, we found plenty of ways to keep out spirits up. "After hours" games of Counterstrike and StarCraft were a must. Some of us went out every night to drink and play pool. Then on weekends we would all go get totally plastered at the local pub, walk to someone's place and crash.

    It worked really, really well.

  242. there's no cure to your companies problems by mcguyver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How to improve your companies morale:
    Step 1: Be part of a successful company.
    Step 2: Do not lay people off.
    Step 3: See Step 1.

    Although you already answered your question, people feel like they always have to look over their shoulder to avoid getting fired. Bottom line - your company is the problem. No amount of booze, yoga, flex hours, massages or magic pixie dust are going to increase morale. Odds are the stigmatism from laying off 300 people is still in the air. My suggestion is do one of two things - find a new job or be content with your situation.

  243. Re: There is some truth in that by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Actually as harsh as this sounds, the despair.com text is accurate in terms of increased productivity and morale.

    An unproductive worker will typically bring down the productivity of the others. In a group of 10 people firing one of them can increase productivity by up to %30 for the whole group according to some studies by Harvard. Also noted in the study was that the canned employee was not replaced. Even with a man down projects can pick up speed.

    Most good managers know this as well as puting more humans towards a problem does not make it go faster. There are over 5k programmers on Microsofts Windows team for example and Linux is still ahead.

    Also I have worked with verbally abusive employees. I threatened to even quit if one of one them was not removed. Believe me when I say its a good thing sometimes that this person was canned. Not just in my situation but other people were being effected by her unrelentless anger and unprofessionalism.

    In my situation my personal morale as well as the company's went up after this individual was canned. It was a small bussiness. She was not happy their anyway and the owner thought he did her a favor in the long run.

  244. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by mbogosian · · Score: 1

    ...thanks to things like a VPN and Avaya IP Softphone

    Holy shit. This was not the link to follow if you wanted a quick intro to the Avaya product line....

  245. The solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    We tech-types HAVE to start running our own companies and ourselves. Get completely rid of the Wall Street wannabees (as in stingers),lawyers, trouble-makers, lawsuit-happy idiots, ego-maniac bosses, etc. What we have to do is learn to run companies ourselves. Take turns doing the paperwork, etc. No stock-holders to answer to, no desk-job stiff-shirt types- just us doers. We just have to do it- somehow, hopefully through the 'net, we can join forces. Not like the labor unions of the Industrial Revolution with the politics we need to rid out- but with unity of purpose!

    Forgive me for living in the past- I too often refer to the Challenger destruction- but it was caused by stiff-white shirt bosses over-ruling the engineers who said "don't launch".

    1. Re:The solution by !Squalus · · Score: 1

      That is truly the answer. I am going to take you up on that idea. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired because some morons think that by being crass and idotic they can run a company into the ground and take up doing it all over again next week.

      Later to the Loser Larry's.

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  246. can I email you my resume? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    not just because of the things you mention... but that you actually think them out enough to have a PLAN. Also, it is obvious you take your position seriously which is much more than I can say at my job. People in decision making positions there generally are of the stereotypical spoiled brat variety that daddy got them a job (or a buddy, or because they are slick talkers, etc). Therefore, you cannot depend on them to be facilitators and themselves understanding they have a ROLE to fill in the team not just be "in charge."

    Dang, getting on my soap box... but your post is very refreshing because I honestly am beginning to wonder if it is even possible to find more than a small child's handful of good leaders out there.

    To put it in perspective... here is my company (and I have tried moving around so I guess I have to change companies now):

    1. unplanned, un-"thought out", undefined, uncommunicated and unclear (when they are) deadlines that change all the time (not within reason either)
    2. 100+ USD Whiteboards for managers' offices when there are equal sized ones stacked in storage. Brand new workstations (with all the gadgets) and laptops for managers while development, file storage, routing, etc is performed on what is mostly a handful of pentum 75's and 166's. NO TRAINING EVER except for the "yay team" training that is literally admitted as being nothing but a beer fest and social networking event by the managers who go.
    3. Insulate? We are the very energy leaking out... IN the firepit so to say. The one good manager I had said once, "I believe it is the duty of a good leader to be the bullshit filter for their team" He got sick of being abused as well and sadly left the company.
    4. Try lowest unless your Daddy is has pull (literally) or you just have been buddies with the current leadership for a while.
    5. Giving the customer the product they paid for and making a name based on the quality of products/services seems to be a naive outlook by "leadership" from my experience. How does one apply their passion to work in the field and their passion to succeed (def. by quality work) and not get jaded? The only other alternative I see is to become apathetic... or maybe the other is to sell out. When we can't look the customer in the eye and tell them the truth and must scramble when the higher ups or the customer might be coming over and literally stick random people in the office down in the lab to "look busy" than I think there needs to be a refresher on ethics and professionalism.
  247. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where I work has flexible hours so long as you are in the office between 10am and 4pm. I feel that this is a good compromise, maybe 10am-2pm would have been OK but you get the idea.

  248. I was gonna suggest oral sex however by infonography · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I started vomiting from sudden memory of my last CEO's face.

    Some images are not to be allowed in one's brain.

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  249. Well... by crimson30 · · Score: 0

    How about Funny Hat Day or maybe playing some Tom Jones music? That always cheers me up.

    "I am the Angel of Death. The Time of Purification is at hand."

  250. Re: There is some truth in that by guardian-ct · · Score: 1

    New paradigm: "Laying off programmers makes Open Source software better".

    I suspect there are more than 5K programmers working on Linux and related projects, which is what I'd use to compare to the MS Windows (and apps that are "part of the OS") team. How did that go? "With many eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"? Mozilla has gotten much more productive over the last few years, possibly due to the number of bored programmers (hi!) currently unemployed.

    Have you got a link to that Harvard study?

    10 down to 9 is only a 10% cut in staff. The sort of layoffs I've seen tend to be between 30% and 70%. These were usually accompanied by "we haven't made a profit in a long time" from management. The implication is that if they could fire enough people, they might make a profit.

    Going from 10 employees to 9 isn't a layoff, it's more like "firing for cause", "terminating at-will employment", or "retirement".

    The other questions I'd have about this Harvard study are:
    1) How long did the productivity increase last?
    2) How productive was the same team if the person wasn't "let go"?
    3) If you do the same test, but cut 2 people using the same system, do you get a 60% increase in productivity? If so, you may be using full-time college students as employees.
    4) How was the choice of who to let go made?

  251. Morale Improvements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Notice: The beatings will continue until morale improves.

    Birth, school, work, death... You're currently at work, so at least you have something to look forward to.

    You've been selected to receive even more Special High Intensity Training. Check with your supervisor to see how piling up Special High Intensity Training classes can help you!

  252. It's not cold. by Midajo · · Score: 1

    If someone is incompetent, they should be fired, period. Otherwise, it's a slap in the face to the competent, and just plain bad business.

    1. Re:It's not cold. by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      You're right, but it still happens. We have an incompetent coder who spent a lot of time kissing management butt and was finally promoted to project lead. Now he spends his days telling people who know how to do their jobs how to do their jobs. What makes me want to puke is when I hear him offer to "share some management insight" with some poor soul on his project. Oh, well, at least he isn't writing bad code any more.

  253. I believe it's "floggings" [nt] by Midajo · · Score: 1

    and thus, no karma.

  254. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by penguin_dance · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Know what your people DO. Probably not a problem at the company in the question. But it amazes me how many managers don't have a clue about the type of work people under them do.

    You expect us to learn all about the company business. Well then find out about what we do for you. That way you know if someone is blowing smoke or if the task/deadline you set is unrealistic.

    It also builds resentment when you discover your manager is an example of the Peter Principle and drawing $$$ while you know more than he/she does about what's going on.

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  255. Re: There is some truth in that by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    ""Laying off programmers makes Open Source software better"."

    It happens. Look here and here..

    Unfortunatly the harvard study I got was from a guest speaker at the New York Linux Users group. The speaker was CEO of geekcruises.com. I do not have a link handy but its based on the 80/20 rule.

    This concept is taught to any MBA major. %80 of your most important work is done %20 of the time! The rest is in meetings, doing busy work, lunch, etc. If a distracting employee is getting in the way of the %20 of real important work then it hits your %80 of what needs to be done.

    And this is why 1 bad apple can spoil the whole bunch and studies prove this. If the employee chats in only %15 of the %20 time for the group that will eat away productivity.

    Anyone reading this know the name of 20/80 law ?

    Help would be greatly appreciated since its so important. Thanks

  256. Re:teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The common failing of middle-manglers is to grab a bunch of bodies, throw 'em into a cube farm, and pretend they magically become a TEAM! A certain former employer of mine sought to repeat their one Big Hit by forming a team to develop the Next Big Thing. These bodies came from two sources: people who had nothing at all to do with the Big Hit, and those who had no background in the technology of the Next Big Thing. They call this "synergy".

    Nobody knew everybody else, so there was a pecking order to establish. As always, the biggest chickens pecked the hardest, crowed the loudest, and pretty much pissed off everybody else.

    Those who contributed nothing to the Big Hit were telling those who did how they should be doing their jobs, and why their decisions were wrong, wrong, wrong.

    Needless to say, there was no team spirit. Quite the opposite, there was team spite. The product was late, over budget, under performance, and in general a black eye to the entire organization. To the day I left, the Next Big Thing group was the butt of hallway jokes and the one group nobody wanted to be part of--nobody who was worth their paycheck, that is.

    So what's the moral of this story? Teams grow over time, they don't spring up magically. Bad leadership spoils any team. If you find yourself on a bad one, jump ship now before you're forever branded with the putrid stench of of a rotten organization. Nearly every large company has dumping ground groups, where they put aside their "Peter Principle" cases to keep them from screwing up something important. Know them for what they are, and stay far away!

  257. I got hired by such a company. by aepervius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finished school 30 june, got hired 1st july after i told I learnt fortran. There is such a lack of skilled people wanting/knowing fortran 77 that they hire foreigner not speaking a bits of the language but a bit of english.

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  258. suggestions... by john_uy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    i have things in my mind, though i am not a programmer, i do technical and management at the same time :) (and we are a team)

    1. treat people with respect. they'll treat you and your company with respect back.
    2. don't overwork the employees. though at times, they will really need to do a lot of things for days and days, treat them to a small out of town trip even for one night. makes everyone relax and forget work.
    3. managers should mingle with the employees more. see their status and talk to them. avoid asking techies to make paper work (i'm sure a lot of you don't want to spend a day typing a report.)
    4. as a team member, try to delegate tasks. this will avoid conflicts.
    5. there should be a "war room" where everyone can put in their ideas and be seen or listened.
    6. try to put an incentive program to the employees. it doesn't need to be expensive. a simple recognition award will do.
    7. management should be a little flexible with time. they should try to understand if people will be needing an 8-5 shift (like secretaries) or a flexible shift (like programmers.) allow breaks during work. if the time shifts for different employees are different, everyone should be required to keep their mobile phones on.
    8. employees should be set up as team based and not on a hierarchical manner. each member of the mean is responsible for the success of all. whether it is a manager, secretary, programmer, technician, they will be treated almost equally.
    9. teams should be allowed to set their own goals. for example, a technical group decides that there is an increased number of support calls for a particular problem. they will find ways to solve it. (they do things on their own without having someone to tell them too - you don't want people to order you around do you?)
    10. your team should go out from time to time, after office for some recreational activities.
    11. don't order around other people (see related item # 9.) although there may times when a particular task needs to be done. these may be exceptions, but for basic stuff, try to ask.
    12. find ways of making people do things at work not because of money but because they are challenged with what they are doing. for example, try to challenge your employees from time to time to do a difficult task. remember that they should find ways to grow. work should not be monotonous day in and out.

    there are more. basically try to think that the employees are the company similarly the church is to the people and not the physical structure. employees are people - they are not robots to which management orders them around (see item # 1.)

    johnlaw :)

    p.s. read my signature. i hope you have that job.

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  259. We all have problems ..., an old system that works by OldHawk777 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Three types of employees:

    (1) those that make all things possible (hardware, software, science, technology, art, literature, commitment, loyalty, satisfaction, drive, profit, ...),

    (2) those that clock-punch, do-a-job, are socially functional, expects a $ for a $ effort, will plagiarize (Type-1's subordinates' work) for career advantages.

    (3) those that are pet-rocks of CEO/SES/..., have exceptional (almost sociopathic) social skills, will take all the credit whenever things go right, point the finger at others when things go wrong, their prime purpose is to manage their career, because (they believe) only Type-3's can be successful bosses/managers (right, they know not their job).

    I have known all three types at every position in Government and Business. Sometimes the Type-3 will be the CEO/SES, have other pet-rocks for affirmation, and believe that Type-2 folks do everything that is needed, because of Type-3 management ability, and Type-1 jerks/fools are the cause of all problems.

    Following the above logic (THIS IS TRUE!): [A] Management says: (1) everyone is replaceable (get rid of the problems), (2) worker-bees cannot be promoted into management, because we need them to do the work, (3) pack-mules are great they get the work done and you can load them up with the important task. [B] Employees say: (1) screw-up move-up, (2) It is not what you know, but who you blow, (3) give head to get ahead. I have heard both "A&B" quotes from Type-3 management people, but employees (all three types) stick to the "B" quotes.

    My observation is that a Capitalist Republic is little better than a Ferengi Republic, though either can be camouflaged as a Democratic Republic, Capitalism remains an economic model, (thank the gods) the Ferengi are fiction, and Democracy maintains the "Great Expectations" for all.

    Any of these models/philosophies are better than all previous governing or ruling attempts by humanity. Kings/Emperors (Louie, Caesar, Napoleon, ...), Dictators (Mao, Marcos, IdiAmin, ...), Megalomaniacs (Hitler, Stalin, Caligula, ...), Democracy (USA, Australia, Britain, ...) proves that we (humanity) can all do better without business, religion, dictators, ... running a country or subjugating people.

    Now back from the abstract to the concrete topic. It is not in the interest of some management teams to have (as equals) mutual respect with employees. Firing a few employees every now/then proves to anyone who may consider themselves equal that they are totally replaceable by other subordinate worker-bees, pack-mules, sub-human. Many capitalist businesses and religious institutions today (globally) are still fascist institutions. Religious institutions (all faiths) around the world continue to fall into three groups (1) the good and pious (I like and protect them) that do their best to help educate, feed, house, ... humanity, (2) the pick-pocket (take the money/people and live well) evangelist always knowing the words of god and asking for money, and (3) the shake-&-bake (shake'em down and bake'em when done, [EM=Evil/Enemy Mankind]) religious leaders that can always justify murder in the name of god. Consensus communities (Democracy) like "Open Source", WWW, ... are now proving that there may be better more profitable (to the company, economy, ecology, humanity) economic models. Dang again, there appears to be only one in three people that I will ever respect, trust, or care about (luckily that third, of humanity, cares about me and the rest of US).

    These consensus communities, using inter/intranet collaboration technologies in the future, will create the stronger, more competitive, and profitable businesses. Network sciences and knowledge-bases of the future will keep track of who is doing what and providing success for US. Business (to stay competitive) will promote the (then disco

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  260. Part of the growing class division in the US by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The phenomena you describe I think is part of a larger (and growing!) class division in America. People who do real work (ie, that can point to a product and show their specific contribution, whether design, programming, manufacturing, etc) are being seperated from people whose real work consists solely of "managing".

    People who "manage" have set themselves up as a self-ruling class that sets the rules and rewards for not only the the people they manage but for themselves as well. The important thing to note is the self-ruling aspect -- the management class very nearly always gets bonuses when workers get paycuts, for example.

    The other aspects of the management class that trouble me is the way that the work done my managers is structured in such a way that many expenses are subsidized for the "managers". Many managers travel extensively and during this time have all of their expenses recouped, they dine out extensively and many often private expenses are paid for by the company (home office setups, club memberships).

    It's not that any of the justifications for paying for these things (ie, meals on company trips) are illogical or wrong, but that the work is structured in such a way that an entire class of workers spends much of their working time in situations where logic dictates that their otherwise personal expenses are paid for by their employers, which is not an insignificant decrease in their overall financial burden, in spite of often exponentially larger salaries justified by the demands of "travel" and "evening dinner meetings."

    Meanwhile the "do-ers" are forced to dine at the company cafeteria (short lunch periods) or brown bag it, pay for their own parking and justify office supply purchases for trivial items. Essentially they are required to bear the full costs associated with going to work, while the management class has them heavily subsidized.

    What also concerns me about this is the social aspect of this; people spend so much time at work that they transfer the implied power and priviledge of their work places to the rest of their lives, presuming that a seperate set of rules applies to them vis-a-vis taxes, schools, residences, and even law enforcement and access to government decision making.

    People who belong to the management classes tend to cluster in McMansions in the same wealthy suburbs and make effective use of their affluence to influence the political process to ensure their continued viability (undermining worker protections, tax cuts only they seem to benefit from, public works projects that they derive a preponderance of benefit from such as new highways to their suburbs).

    I believe its just the further Brazilification of our economy and way of life.

    1. Re:Part of the growing class division in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Management or executives like CEO's are representative of Society's View and they enforce Society's view. I worked in Corporate America for many, many years. I also worked in management as well.

      There is one thing is the executives including management don't like is employees who are independent especially in thought and how they live. The type of person most disliked is a person who is debt free. They are the most likely to walk if told to do something against their conscious. Society also dislike that type of person as well. Look at the tax code. If you are in debt, you are looked upon favorbly with tax breaks. The corporate executives have a large say in the writing of the tax code.

      I have a good example of this prejudice. When I managed a small IT group, I had one employee who worked very hard but he also came from a family with some money. He drove a muscle car (Mustang) to work and lived in a modest but it was paid off. Every year when we did employee appraisals, my boss who was a big executive did not like this employee and saw to it that he got meager pay raises each year. Much below everyone else even the fuck ups in the group. When the job market started to do well, he left because of the treatment by my executive manager. My employee also invested in stocks as well and my executive manager confided with me that the stock market should be an exclusive club and this employee did not belong in investing.

      When you work in Corporate America, there are many unwritten rules depended where in the food chain you are at. If you drive a certain vehicle which is outside of the norm of your position, you will be noticed by the executive and be punished accordingly. It could mean a denial of promotion or pay raise or the first in line on the chopping block for layoffs. Also rated are the type of activities you participate in outside of work. Executive will go to certain places to eat at where it is frowned on for someone lower on the food chain to go to. You won't see an executive go four wheeling or to NASCAR race or even other white collar professionals. If they do go and it is found out, they lose respectability with other executives.

      Corporate America has a long way to go and until the "Management Class" changes, the rules will stay the same.

    2. Re:Part of the growing class division in the US by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      you mean the workers - and not the bosses - create the wealth? Hmmmm go figure.

    3. Re:Part of the growing class division in the US by dvk · · Score: 1

      While I can't argue with the fact that management is basically buttering their own toast (and who wouldn't), your underlying premise of the existance of "people whose real work consists solely of 'managing' and ***who are useless***" is faulty. The easiest proof is a very simple thought experiment:
      Let's say your company has 400 workers who "create" stuff, and 20 high level executives who solely "manage". If what you said was true, those 400 workers could easily walk, set up their own shop, and instantly get all the investors (private or stock market) who invested into old company to switch over, since their company -according to your assumption - has 100% the same productivity and output as the old one, yet costs a LOT less to run (since we skip compensation to 20 highly paid executives), and thus posts better profits and is more attractive to invest in.

      The fact that this doesn't happen on global scale (and given the fact that these days everyone and their grandmother's cat was investing, so it's not the case of rich investors refusing to support such an experiment to preserve status quo) indicates that there's some ***ECONOMIC*** reason why this is a non-working idea, or it'd have happened, in droves. Therefore, those uber-compensated executives actually are needed.

      The extent of compensation needed for them is, of course, debatable, but until you try to run something as complicated as a company without 'people whose real work consists solely of "managing"', you can't appreciate taht such work is vital.

      Disclaimer: I myself am a lowly developer for a large company, none of my friends/relatives are executives, so i've got no reason to be pro-management. I bitch about The Man as much as anyone out there. Moreover, i'm actively resisting anything which can make me a manager, as I loath managing other humans due to my personality (when they need a manager for a bunch of AIs, we can talk ;)

      -DVK

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    4. Re:Part of the growing class division in the US by Telastyn · · Score: 1

      No offense, but this has been done before (and was largley the "way things were" for hundreds of years before labor unions existed. Labor unions have fallen out of favor in America (I don't know about elsewhere) and the benefits they provided are forgotten.

    5. Re:Part of the growing class division in the US by swb · · Score: 1

      I don't think that management is useless. It's a necessary and important part of running an organization. However, I don't think that such a skill is requires a seperate and distinct class of people that are allowed to set the rules for others as as well as themselves with distinctly higher pay packets.

      Your argument of the lack of self-managed organizations existing is mooted by my assertion that those who make the rules do so to assure their continued rule-making. Democracy doesn't just happen, either -- lots of dictators argue that the little people can't make decisions without the inspired leadership of their betters as well.

      My beef isn't so much with management being unneccessary, but the growth of management as a distinct class with a seperate set of privileges that are not granted to others. Coupled with the repeal of the estate tax, increasingly expensive college tuition at "good" schools and we have all the fixings for a new American aristocracy.

    6. Re:Part of the growing class division in the US by dvk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >>> those who make the rules do so to assure their continued rule-making.

      Wold you please site a specific rule which proibits the setting up of a new executive-less company as I have described? The only stopblock I can see would be funding, and as I stated, in the "everyone trades" environment of post-late-1990s, it's no longer valid as the "not in the in" little people can invest in such company even if big shots could theoretically conspire not to (and for that matter, given the strategic blindness of big trading houses vs. short-term gains, i'm 99% sure they'd invest too, as it would mean better ROI which is their mantra).

      >>> Democracy doesn't just happen, either -- lots of dictators argue that the little people can't make decisions without the inspired leadership of their betters as well.

      Invalid example - in a dictatorship, one of your first freedoms to go is the ability to escape. If a dictatorship has free emigration (whether by choice, or due to porous borders), people will jump ship to a better neighbour. As an immigrant from fUSSR, I can personally confirm that trend ;)

      In case of a company, nothing stops the people to jump ship and organize a new one.

      >>> distinct class with a seperate set of privileges that are not granted to others.

      Such as? Other than perhaps a membership in some exclusive golf club, what exactly are those priviledges? Remember, you can say the same thing, for example, about "privildges" of computer-savvy to have the perks of online auctions, comparison-shopping online or stealing^H^H^H^H^H^Hsharing digital content... or reading /. at work :))))

      >>> Coupled with the repeal of the estate tax,

      OK, so if I came to this country, worked my ass off to start - literally - from zero, and made some money that i'm hoping I can leave to my kids, what exactly makes you think that some lazy welfare-sitting bum who has had MORE opportunities in this country than I ever did has more rights to what I earned than my family?

      >>> increasingly expensive college tuition at "good" schools and we have all the fixings for a new American aristocracy.

      Anyone smart enough to pass tests decently can get a bunch of scolarships. And anyone determined enough can get VERY good education from a cheaper, good - if not Ivy League quality - college. Look at the amount of first/second generation immigrants in graduate Math or CS departments at Princeton, for example.

      Yes, you may have to work harder than some rich guy's child born in silver shirt, but other than this requirement to work really hard, there are no other barriers. You may not likely to get to be the President of the USA or Ford CEO, but the reasonably high executive position is quite possible for just about anyone with appropriate qualities.

      -DVK

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    7. Re:Part of the growing class division in the US by macguiguru · · Score: 0

      "and the benefits they provided are forgotten."
      Not quite - I was a member of the IWW for a long time - finally stopped paying dues when I realized they're not growing anymore. Too much squabbling and internecine warfare from the old-timer hardcores. Great idea tho - One Big Union! No wonder they had Joe Hill shot.

  261. I'd rather work at McDonald's than for the govt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    However, I have my own company and make quite a bit of cash.

  262. Thanks for the advice but shove it up your ass. by BoomerSooner · · Score: 1

    I love screwing with assholes on base because that's exactly what they are. I'd rather be a brick layer for $10/hour than work for 150k on base (or for the state for that matter). It's the difference between working with people who have pride in their job and don't simply look to work till 5 because that's quittin time.

    BTW I make over 150k right now so it would be a step down anyway. I have my own company and work with other companies to meet their needs (contract labor).

    If i miss out on a 95k job opportunity with the govt I'll have done myself a huge favor. There is something to be said for liking your job. And "Jerks like me" love screwing with the dipshits on base who make 40k/year after being there for 20 years and are pissed off at their shitty lives. If the people are talking about me then great. That's exactly what I want, them to NEVER HIRE ME EVER.

    I found the cocaine addicted restaurant managers in college were better than the people I've worked with in the govt and on base. Why is that? It takes a special kind of loser to work for the govt. Anyone who puts up with the least efficient corporation in our country is just sad.

    So to summarize, fuck the govt. I'd rather be poor than work for a govt agency/military job again.

  263. Cash, flextime, recognition, VPN, culture.... by websensei · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are MANY things good companies do to attract and keep the best folks in the industry. Performance-based cash bonuses a couple times a year go a long way. Flexible hours are key. Public recognition of hard work / successful projects is good for everyone. Encouraging developers to work from home as needed, 1 or 2 days a week, is great. And establishing a culture of trust and teamwork and sense of shared purpose is also very important.

    This may sound like a fantasy, but my company provides all of these things, at least to some degree. Yes there have been layoffs -- but it is management's responsibility to make sure that its talent pool remains strong. So they eliminate the weak, and reward the strong, and amazing things happen. My coworkers and I work 50-60 hours a week on average, and more often than not finish the week feeling good about what we accomplished.

    Also, while most of the corporate HR cultural initiatives have been somewhat bland and, well, corporate, individuals are fully empowered to take initiative themselves to make it a cool place to work. For example I started an indoor soccer team, and we've had several foozball tourneys, etc.

    Anyway I wanted to share some thoughts on how some companies (mine at least) are doing it right.

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  264. Who Owns Work? by gmkenney · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Jobs are interesting things, the product of capitalism and industrialism. The important thing to remember is that jobs are owned by the bosses not the workers. And although they come with attractive bait, i.e., decent paychecks, privileges, benefits, etc., they are still totally temporary and can disappear for reasons known only to the owners.

    The work, however, is owned by the workers! This is not new. But after some five or six American generations in which a huge proportion of the population - especially the highly educated population and more especially the highly privileged population - have relied on jobs to provide their opportunity to work, it is difficult to unpack the work from the job.

    Those who manage to keep the job separated from the work will also manage to find satisfaction regardless of the conditions of employment. It isn't easy. But it will liberate you from anxiety over why your boss is such an obvious fool.

  265. They should change the name of this topic.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ... from "Ask Slashdot" to "Whine on Slashdot."

    That's all it ever amounts to.

  266. go postal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    has this been suggested?

    one day you take in a firearm of your choice to
    work and waste the boss. guaranteed to improve
    morale. alternatively, if you are the boss,
    point said firearm at your head and pull the
    trigger.

    come on. it's the american way.

  267. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >>>The notion of flexible hours in startups has become "come late, leave late"...

    Your comment (all of it) is is SOOO true! I lived it myself. Even the bosses was getting in at 10-noonish. When I started to rock climb and wished to leave early on Fridays, I started a 7AM-3PM daily schedule, and had to sneak out, as the boss would make sure to ask me (seeing me heading out) a 'last minute 4 hour job that must be done for today'. I started to leave my bag at my desk when leaving so poeple would think I was going for food or someting.

    But what pissed me off the most is the 'late commers' would take 2 hours lunch, play games after 5, and leave at 7, working 3-4 hours. Anyone coming in early would do more hours and work, but had to face bad looks from co-workers for leaving beffore the sun was down. The sun is a big factor. It is a lot easier to leave early (5-6PM) in December when it is dark, but almost imposible in June when the sun is still hight.

  268. Doesn't always work by wadiwood · · Score: 1

    We got confronted with this option, mostly because the owner wanted to sack another person, and the manager didn't want to. So we all went 4 day week and 4 day pay.

    but somebody got the sack anyway, and we didn't get to go back to 5 day week/pay.

    The owner of this company regularily every november/december sacked about 1/3 the work force (averaging around 60 people, down from 140 when I started with them), and rehired new or the same people again in March.

    Christmas was always a slow period with lots of unprofitable public holidays so the owner saved much in salary and on costs. But in the meantime most of the rest of us couldn't give a stuff about doing the job well or at all.

    Eventually all the people who knew anything about anything had quit and found jobs elsewhere. Even the headhunters wouldn't see 6 - 8 months at this particular company as a downside. I think the head hunters loved it.

    The owner failed to see that it was costing him in lost expertise and skill about twice as much as he saved in salary costs. Ie the new people would take twice as long to get anything done as the experienced people. And as soon as the new people had figured out how to get things done, it would be Christmas again, and they'd be laid off.

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  269. Microsoft: A Highly Motivated Environment by frankie_guasch · · Score: 1

    This Microsoft: article by Steve McConnell is interesting to read.

    In its local area, Microsoft is known as "The Velvet Sweatshop," which suggests that, if anything, Microsoft might be doing too good a job of motivating its employees.

    McConnel has a great book with a chapter about morale: Rapid Develpment

  270. Re:You're a piece of shit. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    The thing is, the US *is* cowering in fear. "OMG we got attacked by terrorists!" and now you're blindly flailing your fists at anything you think is a threat. Other countries have had to deal with terrorists in the past. USA-funded terrorism has been a problem here in the UK, but now we're gradually getting it sorted. Perhaps you should put your own house in order first.

  271. toffee, home made cookies, cake, real coffee by wadiwood · · Score: 1

    I used to keep a stash of one or more of these things and the stash used to get raided on a regular basis. Especially after hours. I could understand the jokes about lacing stashes with laxatives although I never did that. I always thought that kind of revenge would backfire.

    anyway the contractors would quite happily eat the toffees too.

    My experience of contractors and being seen as a contractor (even though I was always a permanent employee of a company), was that as a newbie permanent in an office I was always thought unable to do the job, but as a contractor, they just handed it over and expected me to get on with it. Whether or not I had the knowledge required was irrelevant, and if I was a contractor and asked a question it was seen as "getting familiar with the system" but if I was permanent and asked the same kind of question it was seen as "ignorance".

    And I've worked with brilliant contractors and absolutely hopeless ones, at all levels of the action, from coders to management.

    I guess that means my age is showing. Anyway the hopeless ones survived by a combination at being better bullshit spinners combined with blowing their own trumpet, something generally frowned upon in Australia, but seems to work when combined with a bit of brown nosing.

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  272. Post the following announcement... by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 1

    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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  273. Morale Advice by Gleef · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First, the free stuff (often gone into in other posts). Having a liberal dress code and flex time policy costs a company nothing and can greatly help morale. Don't go too far, though, there are good reasons for having people who meet clients/customers to dress up, and you can't have regular progress meetings if flex time has destroyed all overlap in people's schedules; but back office staff should be able to where whatever they find comfortable, and those who must crawl under desks to plug in wiring should not be forced to wear a tie and slacks.

    Next, talk to the employees. If the company is having difficulty, make sure they know exactly what the problems are, so the rumor mill is quieted down. Equally important, make sure they know the plan to get the company back on track. Set goals and tell employees how they can help. Reward the help too, if an employee does something major to help, give them an on-the-spot bonus, or a contract protecting them from layoffs.

    Next, if more layoffs are needed, do it humanely and fairly. First, ask for volunteers, and offer incentives for volunteering (better severance package), why screw A's life over if B wanted to leave anyway? Second, if at all possible, offer a decent severance package, some people don't have a financial safety net, and if they see people cut off with just their last paycheck, they will panic. If layoffs have several weeks severance, and some access to company equipment for job hunting, those who remain will be less demoralized anticipating the next round of layoffs.

    Finally, management must make visible sacrifices too. If staff is looking at a 10% paycut plus triple the workload due to layoffs, and they see management with unchanged salary and perqs (or worse, more) and no layoffs, staff will be upset. If staff takes a 10% paycut, management should take 20% (and tell staff they're doing so). If there are layoffs, make sure management is not immune. If staff loses health insurance, so should management. It makes a huge difference for morale to know that everyone is in the same boat.

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  274. Job security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop laying people off.

    This is more important than you think. Most employees now are upset b/c they might next on the chopping block.

    No matter how much management says it's not going to happen, there's always someone above that person who can change it otherwise.

    There's a special committe, group of volunteers, who were to think of ways to improve company morale. Eventually, it all boiled down to, "how do we express job security".

    Frankly, I wouldn't mind free food, but that's just me. =)

  275. programmer salaries in Eastern Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > You really have to hustle when your compeition
    > considers $100 a month to be a kingly salary.

    I don't know where the people in the US learned that myth.

    I am a developer in Eastern Europe, and here the monthly wage for developers start at $ 500 per month.

    A "kingly salary" is $ 1000 and over per month.

    I earn more than that because I have mad skillz :) and work very hard (would probably earn $70K+ in the US).

  276. My idea for the suggestion box by ReidMaynard · · Score: 1

    Put marijuana in the vending machines.

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  277. i've been there by LifesABeach · · Score: 0

    560,000 it workers out of a job in the u.s.

    for this problem, there is no magic bullet.

    given the above statements; employers get a certain look in their eye. its the same look a wolf has when they see a wounded deer.

    ok, what can be done about it.

    consider the history of mass layoffs/extinctions; this happens about every ten years for us workers. an industry acquires more people to do the job than there are jobs, (thanks to the h1-b folks this time around).

    ok, what can you do about it?

    there are some rules that i apply that have helped me.

    1. you can only bargin from a power position. this statement is heartful, but true.

    2. adaptation is the ability to survive. right now its the housing market, apply your skills to this group of people. notice how i wrote 'people'.

    3. is were you work at a pit? try working for yourself. you'll see what your boss gets to live with. you may like it, you may not.

    4. complaining at work? are you insane? in southern california there are 1000+ resumes for every computer job opening.

    5. leave work at work. rediscover your friends, and family. no one ever died in bed thinking what fullment their lives would have been if they had just stayed at the job one more hour.

    6. cheer up, growing up has never been easy. this problem will make you stronger, wait and see.

  278. Re:Lol, I do the same thing. by Cyno · · Score: 1

    Overrated? I did work for Sun Microsystems at one time, y'know.

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  280. What will improve morale, really. by fmayhar · · Score: 1
    Coincidentally, I just came across this article in Nature that describes an experiment intended to discover how altruism really works, as opposed to how we think it works and how our social mores say it should work.

    The upshot is that if you treat people well, you will be treated well. Good deeds are rewarded, bad deeds are punished. And if you want decent morale, don't treat people badly.

    Read the article. Then get your boss to read the article.

  281. This should be + 5 Insightful by xintegerx · · Score: 1

    It's currently at 1, and this guy is correct. I believe this is the answer to all boredom and "lack of morale"-related issues, because the world has probably been the same way at your job since day 1, but now you have poor morale? That means it is YOU who have changed, not the environment.

    Which is the answer in itself--you have been the same way since day 1. Do some more interesting stuff! In school, you progress year to year automagically with no effort and experience new teachers, classrooms, classmates, life changes, friends, neighbors. After you settle at a job or college, it is then that the true test happens. Instead of riding the age scale to adulthood, you now determine your next move. So take it! You want that girl? Go talk to her and express your feelings. You want to have more fun at the company? Have more fun! Do with your workspace would make it more fun. Consider it your company (since you work there and are a part of it.)

    And don't buy/over-consume stuff if it's just to (in your opinion) impress society for no valid reason. Do WHAT YOU WANT with the money, and that will also improve morale for every dollar you earn. I know you're supposed to buy those $900 italian shoes and pretty bmw, but you know yourself that you maybe would rather save the money to buy a horse on a farm or something, then do it!

    Your job IS your life. No, it doesn't mean your work should be all-encompassing of your life; and no, it doesn't mean your job has to define you or how intelligent you are. But it IS your life and livelyhood so don't make the life stop at 9 and start at 5!

    So the best thing you can do to raise morale is to make people read the above. As I'm writing this, it's good information for myself and I hope others will too find it insightful.

  282. Re:Don't take away freedoms to "improve" productiv by buttahead · · Score: 1

    What is this... Dilbert? Reading mail is part of the job.

  283. Management Training by 4of12 · · Score: 1

    On the topic of Marching Band, I was reminded that being a cheerleader can be good training for higher level executive positions.

    It's not all about brains and brawn, but it seems as if effective management takes some recognition and ability in how to rally a crowd of people.

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