Note most companies claim copyright on the object code not the source.
I have no reason to doubt you here, but how does one handle the problem of compiler differences? If I get my hands on code that was only copyrighted in object form, can I just find a different compiler and make my own copyrightable software? Is the source code what would be considered a trade secret?
I have to go to work now, so I don't even have time for a quick Google on the subject, but I am curious how this works.
Well, I waited a week to read your response because it was obvious I was getting a little too emotional about the whole stupid series of posts. It was the second time in 3 days I had dumped a bunch of karma on the subject of Apple; I should have just stayed away.
Looking back now, I agree that my original post in this discussion comes across as flamebait; subsequent posts are downright mean. I've seen you in other threads lately, and you seem like a decent guy. Sorry I flamed you.
I am not a doctor and I am most assuredly not trying to tell anybody what is wrong with their body, but I found something that helps me a LOT when I get RSI-like symptoms. I am not claiming it will work for YOU, only that it may be worth a try. Besides, it's dirt-cheap, so what can it hurt?
I got a copy of Bonnie Pruden's book, Pain Erasure and started doing trigger point therapy on myself.
That's it. I got a thing called a Theracane, which let's you de-trig your own back (and legs and hips, for that matter), and I use it. It turns out that, for me, the real source of the pain and tingling is buried deep in my back, but I also apply the method to my arms and shoulders. I follow Bonnie's instructions, and over time the pain goes away.
I realize many people's problems are not this simple to fix. If this helps anybody, I'm thrilled. If you try it and think it's bullshit, I'm sorry. Please don't flame me for trying to help.
But the most evil tax has to be inheritance tax. Even when you die you end up paying tax.
Have you given a lot of thought to the inheritance tax? David Brin has;here is a link to a rather long post that includes a discussion of the subject. He made me a lot less anxious to see the tax done away with.
What are you, fifteen or so? Your reply to my post was shown to be simply and completely wrong. So now you want to move into the realm of market cap?
Shall we compare 50% market cap growth (I would imagine you still don't see how to compute that, but I'm not going to educate you) with the growth of Apple's competitors in the same 16 years? Whether you pick Microsoft, Dell, or even the PC industry as a whole, Apple is being left in the dust.
I reiterate my original point (excuse me, flamebait): the success of this product (if it exists) will be critical for Apple's continued success (perhaps even existence)--so it better be affordable. Why is that so hard to accept?
I'll reply to you, because you were polite, but it's intended as well for the geniuses who can't read a stock chart and want to tell me about stock splits.
First, my original post is correct: adjusted for splits, AAPL is stagnant since 1987. This chart clearly shows it. Notice that the blue line is upbroken. If it were not adjusted for splits (ALL charts are adjusted for splits, but apparently you don't know WTF you're talking about, so I'll inform you), the blue line would take have a break (down to half the preceding day's price) every time there was a split. So, nyah, nyah, nyah.
Second, in reply to this particular post, stock price is always indicative of a company's perceived prospects, relative to the other financial opportunities available. The fact that AAPL never makes any sustained headway is due to the fact that they have had NO sustained increase in earnings. Their profits rise and fall with their hardware cycles, but they never improve market share or margins for long.
I was trying to use a widely-accepted proxy for a business's past success and current prospects--its stock price--as a quick way to make my point, but apparently people just took it as a red herring. Let me be more specific: Apple Computers, Incorporated has been struggling for over a decade--poor profit picture, poor market share. I don't actually give a shit about Macs one way or the other. I was only pointing out that it's important for the company that these machines succeed (i.e. turn a profit and increase market share), and to do that they must be reasonably priced.
(To those who posted that the 970 may actually be cheaper than the Moto chips, I thank you for the information. We'll know shortly, I suspect.)
I haven't seen a single mention, either in the article or this discussion, of PRICE. I've seen several articles that claim that the IBM chip will be very expensive for a desktop pc. No matter how much the Mac fanboys love this new toy, if it doesn't come in at a reasonable cost to the consumer it will do nothing to stem the decline of Apple Computer, Inc.
If you like to use Macs, you had better hope this thing is a commercial success. AAPL currently sits at a price it first set in 1987! That is to say, no sustained improvement in the stock in over 15 years. The company is losing the war, plain and simple. Arguing with me about productivity or ease-of-use or great new specs (which, I can't help but notice seem to suddenly matter again with the prospect of hot new machines--for about a year, it's been all about the OS or cool-running or whatever other bullshit we could come up with)--anyway, all this shit won't matter if these things are way expensive.
...the FAA doesn't allow standard GPS to be used as the primary navigation aid on an airplane during bad visibility conditions...
Mmm, no. There are thousands of GPS approaches in the U.S., all of them (naturally) flyable in instrument conditions. WAAS is not required--its (eventual) use will simply lower the minimums--a lot--by providing vertical as well as horizontal guidance.
[If you go to the WAAS websites (mostly put up by suppliers), you'll see references to "precision" approaches; a precision approach is one that provides both vertical and horizontal guidance.]
WTF are you talking about? There's no mention of the internet until you bring it up. It's talking about the possibility that broadcast tv may be a waste of spectrum in the age of cable and satellite tv.
Well, I know you wouldn't post without first reading the article, so you must have missed the part at the top of the second page where it says: Tests were run three times, and the results were averaged.
A question: If the NVidia drivers were behaving as you describe, do you not think that this information would have been well-publicized, in order that people would understand why the damn thing ran so slow each time they did something which corrupted/deleted the drivers application database? It seems like the kind of thing you would want peopel to know.
Actually, dude, he's your psycho. And Woz is your geek. And the sappy, sycophantish emails on woz.org are indicative of the kind of "in" crowd mentality that motivates so many Mac users to stay Mac users, even as Apple Computer, Incorporated (AAPL) milks them for all they're worth.
If we all woke up tomorrow in a world where roles were reversed and Apple had 95% market share and Windows was the rebel OS, a huge percentage of the Mac's current users would jump ship the first chance they got.
No doubt that Wozniak is a genius's genius, but look at the self-serving shit he publishes on his site. He and Jobs are the co-messiahs of a bunch of people who think that your choice of personal computer somehow defines you. It's not about productivity; it's about elitism and ego.
(good thing I have karma to burn. this one's gonna leave a welt.)
Slightly OT, perhaps, but I'll relate my little story; someone else can determine its cosmic significance.
I had to reboot the mirror in my pickup truck. Or, rather, I had to reboot the tiny computer inside my mirror. The mirror has a small window that displays blue-green letters to indicate which direction the truck is headed--N, S, SW,etc. One day last February I noticed that the mirror said simply "C". I assumed this stood for "Cold" and that the compass would return to normal functioning when the heater had warmed the cab up a bit.
I was wrong. Three days later, it still said "C". So I reached up and pushed the switch on the mirror to Off, then back over to On. The mirror successfully rebooted and has been working properly ever since.
So that's where we've gotten ourselves: mirrors that crash and have to be rebooted.
I have always suspected that these things are true; you play to my prejudices, and so your message is well-received--almost epiphanous (really). But, to play devil's advocate, how do we explain languages like O'Caml which seem to produce code that is very very close in speed to tha written in C? Is this only true in toy programs?
Have children and/or cars. Especially children. It is possible to get excused for so much time off when you have kids.
Um, you might want to save this "scam" until you really want kids, because they're a big net loss of free time. A little bit of excused time at work does NOT restore the lost hours every morning/evening/weekend.
One of us doesn't understand the article. The way I read it, the "optimization" the card is performing would only work on the benchmark game--the performance increase it yields will never be manifested in any real game, so is useless.
You win the prize; that absolutely sucks. I'll bet you learned not only not to trust the Post Office, but to ride close herd on processes that are: a) important, and
b) out of your hands.
(Here's where you mutter, "fuck you very much, old man.";)
This is wrong. The mail is not unreliable. In 25 years of paying my own bills, I cannot recall a single instance where somebody I owed money claimed not to have received the check I sent them. That's hundreds of pieces of important mail without a single loss or serious delay, going back to the late Seventies.
Mostly people bash the USPS because it's something they've heard others do, not because they've had bad experiences. Have you had trouble with your mail?
And what is Certified Mail if it isn't USPS?
Thirty-seven goddamn cents for three- or four-day delivery anywhere in the country. A couple bucks to send a book via Media Mail and have it arrive 5 days later (10 days sooner than the estimate). I don't know what you want.
I'm not sure what's implied here...
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this may have more to do with Joe's friends than how much attention he paid to his math teachers
I see Lockheed Corp listed as the Senator's number one contributor, but I don't understand why they would want the shuttle program killed. They own one half (with Boeing) of the company that gets paid to maintain the shuttles. Is there some new system that Lockheed is trying to sell the government that would replace the shuttle? If so, and it's ten years from being ready to use, would Lockheed just as soon forego the trouble of raking in 10 more years of government cash?
This innuendo is confusing. If the submitter has something to say he should say it.
You're correct--this is what the article says. It also says this: "...it seems that men's much-debated ability to navigate slightly better than women applies in virtual environments as well as the real world."
So perhaps the whole thing is bullshit? Or just poorly reported? I don't know.
I do know that air traffic control is dominated by men, that on average the men are better at it than the women, and that I've never seen a woman controller whose skills I would rate "superlative". But there are a lot of factors involved, many of them social (the environment is sort of a cross between a biker bar and junior high gym class--the women are usually pretty uncomfortable until they grow a thicker skin). I don't pretend to know how much of it has to do with spacial perception, but I do know the differences show up even when everybody has passed the same screens for native ability. Then again, "everybody has passed" is not the same as "everybody did equally well on".
This seems like a subject that would be pretty easily studied--the fact that nobody can give a definitive answer to the question tells me that there really is a gender difference here and it's not politically correct to nail it down.
Funny you should mention Dell, though. They probably win the prize for most annoying use of mail-in-rebates when they offer them on computers that they have to mail you in the first place. Somehow this just pisses me off a lot worse than manufacturers who rebate after you buy their crap in a store.
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I have no reason to doubt you here, but how does one handle the problem of compiler differences? If I get my hands on code that was only copyrighted in object form, can I just find a different compiler and make my own copyrightable software? Is the source code what would be considered a trade secret?
I have to go to work now, so I don't even have time for a quick Google on the subject, but I am curious how this works.
Looking back now, I agree that my original post in this discussion comes across as flamebait; subsequent posts are downright mean. I've seen you in other threads lately, and you seem like a decent guy. Sorry I flamed you.
I got a copy of Bonnie Pruden's book, Pain Erasure and started doing trigger point therapy on myself.
That's it. I got a thing called a Theracane, which let's you de-trig your own back (and legs and hips, for that matter), and I use it. It turns out that, for me, the real source of the pain and tingling is buried deep in my back, but I also apply the method to my arms and shoulders. I follow Bonnie's instructions, and over time the pain goes away.
I realize many people's problems are not this simple to fix. If this helps anybody, I'm thrilled. If you try it and think it's bullshit, I'm sorry. Please don't flame me for trying to help.
Have you given a lot of thought to the inheritance tax? David Brin has;here is a link to a rather long post that includes a discussion of the subject. He made me a lot less anxious to see the tax done away with.
Who wouldn't? If this story is true, Microsoft just started offering retailers a reward for selling LindowsOS machines! That makes me laugh.
Shall we compare 50% market cap growth (I would imagine you still don't see how to compute that, but I'm not going to educate you) with the growth of Apple's competitors in the same 16 years? Whether you pick Microsoft, Dell, or even the PC industry as a whole, Apple is being left in the dust.
I reiterate my original point (excuse me, flamebait): the success of this product (if it exists) will be critical for Apple's continued success (perhaps even existence)--so it better be affordable. Why is that so hard to accept?
First, my original post is correct: adjusted for splits, AAPL is stagnant since 1987. This chart clearly shows it. Notice that the blue line is upbroken. If it were not adjusted for splits (ALL charts are adjusted for splits, but apparently you don't know WTF you're talking about, so I'll inform you), the blue line would take have a break (down to half the preceding day's price) every time there was a split. So, nyah, nyah, nyah.
Second, in reply to this particular post, stock price is always indicative of a company's perceived prospects, relative to the other financial opportunities available. The fact that AAPL never makes any sustained headway is due to the fact that they have had NO sustained increase in earnings. Their profits rise and fall with their hardware cycles, but they never improve market share or margins for long.
I was trying to use a widely-accepted proxy for a business's past success and current prospects--its stock price--as a quick way to make my point, but apparently people just took it as a red herring. Let me be more specific: Apple Computers, Incorporated has been struggling for over a decade--poor profit picture, poor market share. I don't actually give a shit about Macs one way or the other. I was only pointing out that it's important for the company that these machines succeed (i.e. turn a profit and increase market share), and to do that they must be reasonably priced.
(To those who posted that the 970 may actually be cheaper than the Moto chips, I thank you for the information. We'll know shortly, I suspect.)
If you like to use Macs, you had better hope this thing is a commercial success. AAPL currently sits at a price it first set in 1987! That is to say, no sustained improvement in the stock in over 15 years. The company is losing the war, plain and simple. Arguing with me about productivity or ease-of-use or great new specs (which, I can't help but notice seem to suddenly matter again with the prospect of hot new machines--for about a year, it's been all about the OS or cool-running or whatever other bullshit we could come up with)--anyway, all this shit won't matter if these things are way expensive.
Mmm, no. There are thousands of GPS approaches in the U.S., all of them (naturally) flyable in instrument conditions. WAAS is not required--its (eventual) use will simply lower the minimums--a lot--by providing vertical as well as horizontal guidance.
[If you go to the WAAS websites (mostly put up by suppliers), you'll see references to "precision" approaches; a precision approach is one that provides both vertical and horizontal guidance.]
WTF are you talking about? There's no mention of the internet until you bring it up. It's talking about the possibility that broadcast tv may be a waste of spectrum in the age of cable and satellite tv.
A question: If the NVidia drivers were behaving as you describe, do you not think that this information would have been well-publicized, in order that people would understand why the damn thing ran so slow each time they did something which corrupted/deleted the drivers application database? It seems like the kind of thing you would want peopel to know.
If we all woke up tomorrow in a world where roles were reversed and Apple had 95% market share and Windows was the rebel OS, a huge percentage of the Mac's current users would jump ship the first chance they got.
No doubt that Wozniak is a genius's genius, but look at the self-serving shit he publishes on his site. He and Jobs are the co-messiahs of a bunch of people who think that your choice of personal computer somehow defines you. It's not about productivity; it's about elitism and ego.
(good thing I have karma to burn. this one's gonna leave a welt.)
The fucktards that manufactured these statistics weren't trying to create actual, usable numbers. They were trying to make political hay.
This scenario has that "too good to be true" feel to it. Is it worth dropping an email to the FSF, just in case it's doable?
I had to reboot the mirror in my pickup truck. Or, rather, I had to reboot the tiny computer inside my mirror. The mirror has a small window that displays blue-green letters to indicate which direction the truck is headed--N, S, SW,etc. One day last February I noticed that the mirror said simply "C". I assumed this stood for "Cold" and that the compass would return to normal functioning when the heater had warmed the cab up a bit.
I was wrong. Three days later, it still said "C". So I reached up and pushed the switch on the mirror to Off, then back over to On. The mirror successfully rebooted and has been working properly ever since.
So that's where we've gotten ourselves: mirrors that crash and have to be rebooted.
I have always suspected that these things are true; you play to my prejudices, and so your message is well-received--almost epiphanous (really). But, to play devil's advocate, how do we explain languages like O'Caml which seem to produce code that is very very close in speed to tha written in C? Is this only true in toy programs?
Um, you might want to save this "scam" until you really want kids, because they're a big net loss of free time. A little bit of excused time at work does NOT restore the lost hours every morning/evening/weekend.
Perhaps faking a family would do the trick.
I gather you read it differently?
a) important, and
b) out of your hands.
(Here's where you mutter, "fuck you very much, old man." ;)
Mostly people bash the USPS because it's something they've heard others do, not because they've had bad experiences. Have you had trouble with your mail?
And what is Certified Mail if it isn't USPS?
Thirty-seven goddamn cents for three- or four-day delivery anywhere in the country. A couple bucks to send a book via Media Mail and have it arrive 5 days later (10 days sooner than the estimate). I don't know what you want.
I see Lockheed Corp listed as the Senator's number one contributor, but I don't understand why they would want the shuttle program killed. They own one half (with Boeing) of the company that gets paid to maintain the shuttles. Is there some new system that Lockheed is trying to sell the government that would replace the shuttle? If so, and it's ten years from being ready to use, would Lockheed just as soon forego the trouble of raking in 10 more years of government cash?
This innuendo is confusing. If the submitter has something to say he should say it.
So perhaps the whole thing is bullshit? Or just poorly reported? I don't know.
I do know that air traffic control is dominated by men, that on average the men are better at it than the women, and that I've never seen a woman controller whose skills I would rate "superlative". But there are a lot of factors involved, many of them social (the environment is sort of a cross between a biker bar and junior high gym class--the women are usually pretty uncomfortable until they grow a thicker skin). I don't pretend to know how much of it has to do with spacial perception, but I do know the differences show up even when everybody has passed the same screens for native ability. Then again, "everybody has passed" is not the same as "everybody did equally well on".
This seems like a subject that would be pretty easily studied--the fact that nobody can give a definitive answer to the question tells me that there really is a gender difference here and it's not politically correct to nail it down.
Funny you should mention Dell, though. They probably win the prize for most annoying use of mail-in-rebates when they offer them on computers that they have to mail you in the first place. Somehow this just pisses me off a lot worse than manufacturers who rebate after you buy their crap in a store.
Nice. +2 Informative for an unsubstantiated allegation by an AC. Good moderation is the key to keeping Slashdot a valuable source of information.
I thought British millions were also a thousand thousands. Perhaps we should resort to scientific notation.