Oh, and I think your post might be one of those things like Eliot's The Wasteland, where it takes a book six times as long as the original to explain it (cause I'm well and truly lost). Or else you're high.
Well, there is one small difference that may (or may not) turn out to be important. These guys are no more constituents (I'm taking liberty with your terminology) of the government than you and I are. As far as the real constituents--Microsoft/Amazon/IBM/etc.--are concerned, Intellectual Weapon are the barbarians at the gate of the city. And if the big boys manage to swat this bug, there are a hundred more waiting in the wings now that the way has been shown.
Well, first of all, I wasn't addressing your post; I'm not sure if you think I was, or if you're defending your homeboy, or what. WPIDalamar said:
If you want as many people using it, contributing to it, etc. Choose BSD, MIT, etc.
If you want to make sure nobody ever profits off of your work, choose GPL.
You can pretend this isn't innuendo and that I'm projecting if it makes you happy. It would help if you could suggest another interpretation.
As for people calling you a freeloader for not using GPL'ed code, I'll do a little projecting and say they're probably mistaking your comments about why the GPL renders code useless to you as criticism, and they're getting defensive about it. I didn't make that mistake which is why (as I say) I didn't say anything to you.
And by the way, I don't think "pedantic" means what you think it means.
It's funny when people advocating free software focus on the cost.
If you want to make sure nobody ever profits off of your work, choose GPL.
Perhaps, Mr. Pot, Mr. Kettle is not the only one here who needs to adjust his focus. While the post you responded to most certainly made an issue of money, many who choose to advocate or use the GPL are sincere in their desire to preserve software freedom. I don't agree with everything I read on this page, but there's enough there that makes sense that I don't think it's fair to accuse people of using the GPL just to spite people trying to make a living from programming.
After I looked up "talus," I see what looks like talus-that-just-stops in a bunch of places. I noticed it before I knew the word for it. Assuming the HiRISE guys aren't blind and have heard of gravity, perhaps they see it too and have some explanation for why it looks like that (though I'm personally at a loss to say what that might be).
Thanks, Professor, but the text accompanying the original photo makes it clear that the folks who are trained and experienced at interpreting HiRISE images say no:
The HiRISE camera is very sensitive and we can see details in almost any shadow on Mars, but not here. We also cannot see the deep walls of the pit. The best interpretation is that this is a collapse pit into a cavern or at least a pit with overhanging walls. We cannot see the walls because they are either perfectly vertical and extremely dark or, more likely, overhanging.
The pit must be very deep to prevent detection of the floor from skylight, which is quite bright on Mars.
odd (d)
adj., odder, oddest.
1. Deviating from what is ordinary, usual, or expected; strange or peculiar: an odd name; odd behavior. See synonyms at strange.
I said odd: not stupid, pointless or even suboptimal, but odd. Go to an online book store and look at the lesser texts on the subject. Virtually all use some higher-level language like C or C++, or even Java (!) for their examples and exercises.
I wasn't criticizing Knuth. He's certainly smarter than I am. I was arguing that his books are not ordinary, usual, or expected (of most authors).
Er, Donald Knuth is a genius and all, and possibly the most respected man in programming, but normal? I don't think so. How eccentric is it to write all your programs (including your magnum opus) in essay/book form? Very eccentric. How odd to continue into the 21st century writing the definitive text(s) on computer science using your own made up assembly language? Pretty odd.
Would we all be better off if we learned things his way? Possibly so. But we don't and we're not going to, and I'm afraid that makes him a bit fringe-dimensional.
I always thought double taxation wasn't permitted?
You're joking, right? Every dollar I spend at retail goes through at least three rounds of taxation: federal income tax, state income tax, and sales tax. And God help me if I manage to save one of my twice-taxed salary dollars, rather than spend it immediately; the interest I earn is taxed by the same gang of thieves all over again.
...and it's been implied in other posts: NEVER hang up on these folks. Putting them on hold is good, but better, if you can afford to have the lines tied up, is to set the receiver down on a desk and go back to work. If you're really busy, that's good enough. If you can afford the hit to your concentration, pick up the phone every couple minutes and assure them you'll be with them shortly. If you're bored and want to work out a bit of (passive) aggression, tell them stories. Tell them how much you appreciated the great work your headhunter did getting you a job. Tell them about your girlfriend's freaky menstrual cycle. Do anything but stop their pain by hanging up.
They'll figure it out when they notice they're starving to death. Then the calls will stop.
This is not about the option to go around weather. This about the option to go around the area that aircraft are going around weather in. That can add up to a lot of extra miles--several hundred for any storm system worthy of the name.
It will cost a good bit of extra fuel some times (sometimes they would have burned it anyway holding at the destination if their luck was bad), but it's still going to be a popular option because customers and bosses and pilots like to get the hell going. Despite the OP's complaint about spending extra time on planes, most people don't get irritated until they feel like no progress is being made, and flying around at 440kt feels like progress even when it's maybe not exactly.
In general, the cars are much slower now than they used to be. The 225.817MPH of the 1st place car would have been very far back in the grid compared with the 240 MPH+ of 10 or 15 years ago. I wish him luck.
I don't follow the sport, so I went and checked. It looks like speeds dropped hard (about 10mph) after 1996. I can figure out that they changed the rules, but why? Driver safety? Fan safety? Cost?
I'm not responsible for either moderation (certainly wouldn't have responded to something that I considered flamebait), and I don't consider karma when I post. If I did, I would have given up calling Steve Jobs a narcissistic, posturing ass years ago.
Did I imply that I feel pity for the OP? As I've admitted elsewhere, it wasn't my most coherent post ever, being written at 2:00am with a nasty cold, but I don't find condescension when I read it. It would be pretty ironic if a guy who has worked for the federal government for 23 years pitied someone for being associated with Microsoft.
Until I read this story, I had always assumed that MS understood this fact. Now I see that, as in so many other things, they were just lucky.
I doubt that there would even be a Microsoft monopoly today without the lock-in caused by over two decades of pirated copies of DOS and Windows* If they keep this act up, they're in for big trouble in the developing world.
Okay, we could have let the "minutes" slip pass unremarked, even though there's not a word in TFA about minutes. But there's no whining in the story, either. Anecdotes aplenty about families being surprised by their high wireless bills, yes. Complaints, recriminations, or denying of responsibility, no.
But if it makes you happy, you can be righteously indignant anyway.
Excellent post, IMO. I completely agree that judgment can only be passed on something you've read or heard, not something you've been told was awful by a third party. Thanks for the transcript. I also agree that this is pretty mundane stuff--boring, stupid, tasteless and pointless, but hardly a step backward for women the world over. These are losers momentarily caught up in a creepy power fantasy and letting their mouths puke it out for the rest of us to hear: standard testosterone-poisoning stuff.
At least McDonald's knows what the term "manager" means. Look it up. But I would be willing to bet that the title isn't as far off the mark as you would like to pretend it is. I've heard it said that the role of many "managers" at MS is to run interference so the developers can work unimpeded. What I haven't heard is commentary [derision] about what must be wrong with a company that needs 9 people clearing red tape so 6 people can get some work done. I can only imagine how much fun that is.
Well, I guess it's to be expected that a post I wrote at 2:00am is so easily misunderstood. I never said anything one way or the other about their goal of creating a system for non-programmers to use for...whatever it is they want to use it for. I'm fine with that.
I'm accusing the whole operation of being created and managed (at the higher levels) by poseurs who think their target audience can't smell bullshit when it's thrown at them. The site reeks of marketing. It smells phony. It reads like it's not written by the people it claims wrote it. And that's a very bad start to a relationship, so people whose antennae are sensitive to stuff like that will stay away.
Props for having the stones to use a name like MSFTVet on/. but come on:
The team is a small band of folks with a passion for democratizing development, housed within Microsoft's Developer Division based in Redmond, Washington. Like most startup ventures, the team hustles for resources every day and is innovative, scrappy, and fun. Oh, and we also dream big.
That's just sad. Women, men, motorcycles, music, sports, dogs, horses, science fiction (back when it was worth a shit), Smalltalk, dancing...these are just a few of the things people can be passionate about. Democratizing development, whateverthefuckthatmeans, is not on the list. Smells like marketing to me.
White boys should not try to talk like they grew up in the hood, lesbians should not piss standing up, and corporations with US$50 thousand million in the bank should not try to act "scrappy". All of these acts display a combination of confusion, dishonesty, and poor taste. It's no sin to be bigger than God; just don't try to act like you're too cool to suffer the ill effects.
This is not a criticism of the people on the team because I can't possibly know anything about the people on the team (well, I know that Aaron Brethorst turned his last name into a verb, which is pretty creepy, but we'll let that slide). I'm criticizing Microsoft management for thinking they can pull this off. They're off to a great start, with 9 managers and 6 developers.
It doesn't matter if Popfly [isn't a popfly usually an out in baseball, btw?]is a cool app or not, because it will go away. If it's cool now, then it will be exploited by MS in some off-putting way as soon as it gets remotely popular, and if it's not cool then having a rich daddy won't help it.
On a positive note, the website makes pretty nice use of color.
First you ignore, rather than argue against, the possibility that the strategy I suggest might get good results and therefore be in the shareholders' interest. Then you proclaim that mismanagement on this scale might trigger a revolt. Then you bemoan the fact that Microsoft's shareholders are apparently asleep at the wheel, so this will probably not cause a revolt. In fact, you observe with regret, shareholders in general are largely moribund (except, you said earlier, for asking awkward questions if management chooses to buy out another company for more than 110% of its pre-offer price). Then you attack a couple of straw men and leave.
Sorry, I can't pick out a coherent thread here to agree or disagree with. Except for the part about selling Microsoft--I agree with that.
Maybe they're panicked, maybe not. It does seem to me that if one wanted to ensure that one get a shot at every possible deal (in a sense, a veto on everybody else's deals, since Microsoft has so much cash to buy with), one might wish to signal a willingness to pay VERY hefty premiums for the right companies.
Well, yes, you could just guess. Or you could RTFA and see that the source of the stats is the Centers for Disease Control, an institution of the U.S. government. Or, you could read the Slashdot FAQ and remind yourself that the default subject of Slashdot articles is the United States.
Any of those would have gotten you the right answer;)
It's amazing how slowly word is getting around, but you do not have to put up with Adobe's bullshit. This company makes a no-cost reader that absolutely blows Acrobat Reader away. It's lightweight, fast, stable and when you close the window, the process actually stops instead of just sitting in the background, screwing up your system.
I'm sorry, but if you think a traffic-aware car is a hard sell, you ain't seen nothing until you try to convince people to use public transportation. Just as bad, whole cities would have to be reworked even if everybody got on board [ha ha ha] tomorrow. There is NO WAY to make a city like Atlanta work with mass transit; the hub-and-spoke of work-downtown/live-suburban has almost completely broken down. Millions of people live in one suburb and work across town in another one, and the distances involved are very large. The return to mixed use areas is in its embryonic stage right now, and its success is not assured.
You might well say let them suffer for their stupidity, but that's not leadership; it's zealotry. Cars will be with us for the foreseeable future. Improving their efficiency is a good thing.
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Oh, and I think your post might be one of those things like Eliot's The Wasteland, where it takes a book six times as long as the original to explain it (cause I'm well and truly lost). Or else you're high.
We can hope, anyway.
If you want as many people using it, contributing to it, etc. Choose BSD, MIT, etc.
If you want to make sure nobody ever profits off of your work, choose GPL.
You can pretend this isn't innuendo and that I'm projecting if it makes you happy. It would help if you could suggest another interpretation.
As for people calling you a freeloader for not using GPL'ed code, I'll do a little projecting and say they're probably mistaking your comments about why the GPL renders code useless to you as criticism, and they're getting defensive about it. I didn't make that mistake which is why (as I say) I didn't say anything to you.
And by the way, I don't think "pedantic" means what you think it means.
It's funny when people advocating free software focus on the cost.
If you want to make sure nobody ever profits off of your work, choose GPL.
Perhaps, Mr. Pot, Mr. Kettle is not the only one here who needs to adjust his focus. While the post you responded to most certainly made an issue of money, many who choose to advocate or use the GPL are sincere in their desire to preserve software freedom. I don't agree with everything I read on this page, but there's enough there that makes sense that I don't think it's fair to accuse people of using the GPL just to spite people trying to make a living from programming.
After I looked up "talus," I see what looks like talus-that-just-stops in a bunch of places. I noticed it before I knew the word for it. Assuming the HiRISE guys aren't blind and have heard of gravity, perhaps they see it too and have some explanation for why it looks like that (though I'm personally at a loss to say what that might be).
The HiRISE camera is very sensitive and we can see details in almost any shadow on Mars, but not here. We also cannot see the deep walls of the pit. The best interpretation is that this is a collapse pit into a cavern or at least a pit with overhanging walls. We cannot see the walls because they are either perfectly vertical and extremely dark or, more likely, overhanging.
The pit must be very deep to prevent detection of the floor from skylight, which is quite bright on Mars.
adj., odder, oddest.
1. Deviating from what is ordinary, usual, or expected; strange or peculiar: an odd name; odd behavior. See synonyms at strange.
I said odd: not stupid, pointless or even suboptimal, but odd. Go to an online book store and look at the lesser texts on the subject. Virtually all use some higher-level language like C or C++, or even Java (!) for their examples and exercises.
I wasn't criticizing Knuth. He's certainly smarter than I am. I was arguing that his books are not ordinary, usual, or expected (of most authors).
Would we all be better off if we learned things his way? Possibly so. But we don't and we're not going to, and I'm afraid that makes him a bit fringe-dimensional.
You're joking, right? Every dollar I spend at retail goes through at least three rounds of taxation: federal income tax, state income tax, and sales tax. And God help me if I manage to save one of my twice-taxed salary dollars, rather than spend it immediately; the interest I earn is taxed by the same gang of thieves all over again.
Or it would be, if only they knew his hair color.
They'll figure it out when they notice they're starving to death. Then the calls will stop.
It will cost a good bit of extra fuel some times (sometimes they would have burned it anyway holding at the destination if their luck was bad), but it's still going to be a popular option because customers and bosses and pilots like to get the hell going. Despite the OP's complaint about spending extra time on planes, most people don't get irritated until they feel like no progress is being made, and flying around at 440kt feels like progress even when it's maybe not exactly.
I don't follow the sport, so I went and checked. It looks like speeds dropped hard (about 10mph) after 1996. I can figure out that they changed the rules, but why? Driver safety? Fan safety? Cost?
I'm not responsible for either moderation (certainly wouldn't have responded to something that I considered flamebait), and I don't consider karma when I post. If I did, I would have given up calling Steve Jobs a narcissistic, posturing ass years ago.
Did I imply that I feel pity for the OP? As I've admitted elsewhere, it wasn't my most coherent post ever, being written at 2:00am with a nasty cold, but I don't find condescension when I read it. It would be pretty ironic if a guy who has worked for the federal government for 23 years pitied someone for being associated with Microsoft.
Until I read this story, I had always assumed that MS understood this fact. Now I see that, as in so many other things, they were just lucky.
I doubt that there would even be a Microsoft monopoly today without the lock-in caused by over two decades of pirated copies of DOS and Windows* If they keep this act up, they're in for big trouble in the developing world.
But if it makes you happy, you can be righteously indignant anyway.
Excellent post, IMO. I completely agree that judgment can only be passed on something you've read or heard, not something you've been told was awful by a third party. Thanks for the transcript. I also agree that this is pretty mundane stuff--boring, stupid, tasteless and pointless, but hardly a step backward for women the world over. These are losers momentarily caught up in a creepy power fantasy and letting their mouths puke it out for the rest of us to hear: standard testosterone-poisoning stuff.
At least McDonald's knows what the term "manager" means. Look it up. But I would be willing to bet that the title isn't as far off the mark as you would like to pretend it is. I've heard it said that the role of many "managers" at MS is to run interference so the developers can work unimpeded. What I haven't heard is commentary [derision] about what must be wrong with a company that needs 9 people clearing red tape so 6 people can get some work done. I can only imagine how much fun that is.
I'm accusing the whole operation of being created and managed (at the higher levels) by poseurs who think their target audience can't smell bullshit when it's thrown at them. The site reeks of marketing. It smells phony. It reads like it's not written by the people it claims wrote it. And that's a very bad start to a relationship, so people whose antennae are sensitive to stuff like that will stay away.
That's what I meant to say.
The team is a small band of folks with a passion for democratizing development, housed within Microsoft's Developer Division based in Redmond, Washington. Like most startup ventures, the team hustles for resources every day and is innovative, scrappy, and fun. Oh, and we also dream big.
That's just sad. Women, men, motorcycles, music, sports, dogs, horses, science fiction (back when it was worth a shit), Smalltalk, dancing...these are just a few of the things people can be passionate about. Democratizing development, whateverthefuckthatmeans, is not on the list. Smells like marketing to me.
White boys should not try to talk like they grew up in the hood, lesbians should not piss standing up, and corporations with US$50 thousand million in the bank should not try to act "scrappy". All of these acts display a combination of confusion, dishonesty, and poor taste. It's no sin to be bigger than God; just don't try to act like you're too cool to suffer the ill effects.
This is not a criticism of the people on the team because I can't possibly know anything about the people on the team (well, I know that Aaron Brethorst turned his last name into a verb, which is pretty creepy, but we'll let that slide). I'm criticizing Microsoft management for thinking they can pull this off. They're off to a great start, with 9 managers and 6 developers.
It doesn't matter if Popfly [isn't a popfly usually an out in baseball, btw?]is a cool app or not, because it will go away. If it's cool now, then it will be exploited by MS in some off-putting way as soon as it gets remotely popular, and if it's not cool then having a rich daddy won't help it.
On a positive note, the website makes pretty nice use of color.
Sorry, I can't pick out a coherent thread here to agree or disagree with. Except for the part about selling Microsoft--I agree with that.
Maybe they're panicked, maybe not. It does seem to me that if one wanted to ensure that one get a shot at every possible deal (in a sense, a veto on everybody else's deals, since Microsoft has so much cash to buy with), one might wish to signal a willingness to pay VERY hefty premiums for the right companies.
Any of those would have gotten you the right answer ;)
It's amazing how slowly word is getting around, but you do not have to put up with Adobe's bullshit. This company makes a no-cost reader that absolutely blows Acrobat Reader away. It's lightweight, fast, stable and when you close the window, the process actually stops instead of just sitting in the background, screwing up your system.
You might well say let them suffer for their stupidity, but that's not leadership; it's zealotry. Cars will be with us for the foreseeable future. Improving their efficiency is a good thing.