You're a troll! So tell me why is the DOE sponsoring this? Why does every agency in our government have to do things in the areas where there are already government agencies which should be doing it.
To me it's more like a volley ball game where all of the players are to busy playing their team members positions to mind their own position.
I can't imagine that the DOE doesn't have enough Energy related issues at hand to keep them plenty busy w/o loosing focus on the blind (pun only half intended).
Since the OSS community now has a JRE which is certified for Java 6, a closed source Java is not worth nearly as much as it was. So now Sun isn't really losing much to make the real Java open sourced and they get to look like good guys in the OSS comunity.
I love not having overloaded operators in Java (or at least how nobody makes use of them). I also like how anal folks are that in the member functions which throw exceptions which must be caught for every little shit thing that could go wrong. So what is wrong with returning an error code when a file can't be closed? Must an exception be thrown?
Yep, java had a lot more thought put into how to make the programmer do as much work prepping to call a function as he would to write the function in the first place.
Well stated. I think you just stated what I said. It's too complex. I have yet to see a simple implimentation of this that I can give to my family and friends so that it just works without them having to think about it.
Even more importantly, I thinkit comes down to, the folks aren't stupid, it's just not worth their time to be stretched figuring out how to do it and then doing it.
Well it can't get more simple than using a digital certificate for this. They are supported by almost every email client out there and the user only needs to click the encrypt button. Yeah right! I have friends who can't even figure out how to attach a damned photo to an email. They can send a photo using "Windows Live" but that only works if you have a Windows Live account and Windows.
Sadly, at least half the US population don't have a clue as to how to do anything with their computer except the bare minimum. If it doesn't do it for them without effort or thought, it won't get done.
Lets see, Novell has Novell/SuSE graphics and branding on the distribution. So you want to be able to take it, repackage it to fit your needs/desires/rabid tastes then still leave all the branding on it so it looks like it's the real Novell product. get a life!
As for the benchmarking. That is a GOOD THING. It implies that if MS benchmarks Novell/SuSE and published the results, Novell then has the right to Benchmark MS's OS in spite of what the Way more draconion EULA states.
They don't stop you from distributing the code, nor benchmarking. They just ask that you respect their branding and if you can benchmark theirs, they can benchmark yours.
It's too complex for most. If it were as simple as me putting code on my machine and sending encrypted emails to my family and friends I would do it. Sadly, I have to step them ALL though putting GPG or PGP onto their machines, creating a pair of keys then sending my and all of their friends their public key. Want to place bets how many of them would send their private key themselves?
If MS would simplify it and make all of this just happen. I bet that there would be a big gaping hole for the gov't to make use of. Not to mention the security holes that would go along with it as well.
No I'm not. I'm assuming that kids who need help in school will consume a teachers time more than students who don't. Granted the students who don't won't go as far as they could if the teacher could devote as much attention to them as the teacher devotes to the kids who need help.
How do you solve this? Simple, hire more teachers. Have smaller class sizes so the teacher has more time to help ALL of the kids.
Of course, this means WE have to pay for this. If we want to solve it, WE have to decide that it is important enough to PAY for it. Otherwise, folks should just shut up because they get what they paid for.
Of course kids who just don't pick the stuff up and learn it need more help! Some kids just learn and get good grades without effort. Others need to work hard and get good grades. Still, some need help to just learn the basics.
It's much better to put some effort into helping the latter group out early than support them through our prisons and social programs for the rest of their lives.
If you want to help those who don't need so much help, raise school taxes and hire more teachers!
That reminds me of an incident at work where we were talking about code when someone said that code produced with the Win32 libraries was cross platform compatible. Windows 95, Window NT...
This SDK can be used by any language, as long as it's a language of MS!
It's amazing how folks who preach tolerance are so intolerant of anyone who questions the validity of evolution, global warming, origins of the universe (fill in the blank) as being a morons incapable of deep thought or reason.
What's there to argue? They showed that a group of bacteria mutated and started metabolizing available substances. Bacteria have been doing this, as well as mutating to resist antibiotics and lots of other things for a long time. They are still bacteria.
I don't see this as the irrefutable proof which will shake the Christian right's spiritual moorings.
Sat solver, now that is something I work on regularly. Looking on Wikipedia to see what the hell one does, I see in the last 30 years, I have probably needed anything close to it maybe 3 times. Could be more, but I doubt it.
Before you puff your chest out about how great you are because you do this regularly, don't bother. I'm sure I do just as many things you don't.
For reference, we all have differing needs. Yes, there are time when single stepping can be handy. Many times, though it doesn't buy you that much. I generally find if a variable is is not what I think it should be, it happened long before the segfault.
I've only ever seen a true BSOD once in my use of Windows. Shows how little I use it.
I use Linux because Windows sucks in general AND I don't have to buy Nortan anti-virus (choose your poison) just to get online.
Also, my 'If only' quotient goes way down with Linux. "If only I could do this..., If only I could do that..." I rarely say this with Linux. I have always had a high If only quotient with MS products, DOS, Windows doesn't matter, they rarely will do what I truly want them to do.
I don't know about the windows debugger, I never used it. I've tried GDB and I just don't like debuggers in general. They always tell me where I am and where I'm going. 80% of the time I know where I am and I need to know how the hell I got there.
I've been MS free since 1995. Work was novell networked at that time. This is both home and work. My wife and kids use Linux (here at home) as well.
Life is good. My needs as a S/W developer are different than most. My wife and kids have learned to be creative in their ways. My kids (thanks to the public schools) can cuss fluently in both Linux and Windows:)
Any inference to race was in put there in your brain, not mine.
To explain to those of you who does not realize that there are OSs other than Windows and computing did not exist before Al Gore and Bill Gates...
In Unix there is a utility named tar. It takes a collection of files and puts them into a single file with the extension of.tar, a tarball.
My statement was a statement against Sourceforge. I would've used the same statement for Hillery, Obama or McCain, hell I would've used it for anybody that the original post was written about (including my mother!) because my statement was about Sourceforge, not the candidate.
Sourceforge has millions of crappy projects all with either a TAR FILE of ZIP FILE which will not build, has no description, no documentaion, can't barely tell what it's supposed to do.
All a project for a web page for Obamma (or any of the candidates) on Sourceforge would do is create him a web page which would be a load of crap. It would not build, It would not have any meaningful description, no documentation. It would probably take his new Lamp guy till November to figure it out and to get it to work.
So which utopia do you live in? Where on earth do you live where people just get along? I mean, I guess it could be in Russia, N. Korea and Myanmar. I hear they don't have problems like this during their elections.
Kind of funny, I have a brand new microwave. It looked great, cool looking interface, some would even say feature rich. Sadly, the interface, thanks to a slacker coder (or some slacker designer), is mediocre. Simple changes would make it easy and slick to use. But alas, like the way of many things, it's mediocre and cumbersome to use. Kind of like Java in a way.
I guess mediocrity has made our world better. NOT!
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You're a troll! So tell me why is the DOE sponsoring this? Why does every agency in our government have to do things in the areas where there are already government agencies which should be doing it.
To me it's more like a volley ball game where all of the players are to busy playing their team members positions to mind their own position.
I can't imagine that the DOE doesn't have enough Energy related issues at hand to keep them plenty busy w/o loosing focus on the blind (pun only half intended).
Since the OSS community now has a JRE which is certified for Java 6, a closed source Java is not worth nearly as much as it was. So now Sun isn't really losing much to make the real Java open sourced and they get to look like good guys in the OSS comunity.
This looks like it was written by Sun trying to convince folks why Java should be used instead of that clunky old C++
Unlike the wonderful world of Java eh?
I love not having overloaded operators in Java (or at least how nobody makes use of them). I also like how anal folks are that in the member functions which throw exceptions which must be caught for every little shit thing that could go wrong. So what is wrong with returning an error code when a file can't be closed? Must an exception be thrown?
Yep, java had a lot more thought put into how to make the programmer do as much work prepping to call a function as he would to write the function in the first place.
Or maybe you're talking about VB or C#...
I'm sure my family will be able to enjoy them for generations!
Well stated. I think you just stated what I said. It's too complex. I have yet to see a simple implimentation of this that I can give to my family and friends so that it just works without them having to think about it.
Even more importantly, I thinkit comes down to, the folks aren't stupid, it's just not worth their time to be stretched figuring out how to do it and then doing it.
Sadly, at least half the US population don't have a clue as to how to do anything with their computer except the bare minimum. If it doesn't do it for them without effort or thought, it won't get done.
Lets see, Novell has Novell/SuSE graphics and branding on the distribution. So you want to be able to take it, repackage it to fit your needs/desires/rabid tastes then still leave all the branding on it so it looks like it's the real Novell product. get a life!
As for the benchmarking. That is a GOOD THING. It implies that if MS benchmarks Novell/SuSE and published the results, Novell then has the right to Benchmark MS's OS in spite of what the Way more draconion EULA states.
They don't stop you from distributing the code, nor benchmarking. They just ask that you respect their branding and if you can benchmark theirs, they can benchmark yours.
It's too complex for most. If it were as simple as me putting code on my machine and sending encrypted emails to my family and friends I would do it. Sadly, I have to step them ALL though putting GPG or PGP onto their machines, creating a pair of keys then sending my and all of their friends their public key. Want to place bets how many of them would send their private key themselves?
If MS would simplify it and make all of this just happen. I bet that there would be a big gaping hole for the gov't to make use of. Not to mention the security holes that would go along with it as well.
Not only can I torment myself programming in Java, but I can do it freely! Thanks GNU!
Life sucks, then you have to program in Java and learn just how bad it can get!
No I'm not. I'm assuming that kids who need help in school will consume a teachers time more than students who don't. Granted the students who don't won't go as far as they could if the teacher could devote as much attention to them as the teacher devotes to the kids who need help.
How do you solve this? Simple, hire more teachers. Have smaller class sizes so the teacher has more time to help ALL of the kids.
Of course, this means WE have to pay for this. If we want to solve it, WE have to decide that it is important enough to PAY for it. Otherwise, folks should just shut up because they get what they paid for.
To quote an earlier post "Well duh!".
Of course kids who just don't pick the stuff up and learn it need more help! Some kids just learn and get good grades without effort. Others need to work hard and get good grades. Still, some need help to just learn the basics.
It's much better to put some effort into helping the latter group out early than support them through our prisons and social programs for the rest of their lives.
If you want to help those who don't need so much help, raise school taxes and hire more teachers!
That reminds me of an incident at work where we were talking about code when someone said that code produced with the Win32 libraries was cross platform compatible. Windows 95, Window NT ...
This SDK can be used by any language, as long as it's a language of MS!
Some places will be holding people who don't clean up after their dog for 42 days!
It's amazing how folks who preach tolerance are so intolerant of anyone who questions the validity of evolution, global warming, origins of the universe (fill in the blank) as being a morons incapable of deep thought or reason.
What's there to argue? They showed that a group of bacteria mutated and started metabolizing available substances. Bacteria have been doing this, as well as mutating to resist antibiotics and lots of other things for a long time. They are still bacteria.
I don't see this as the irrefutable proof which will shake the Christian right's spiritual moorings.
In spite of what any of you say, I'm betting the resulting organism is a Escherichia coli bacterium. Wake me when it becomes a two celled organism
At the risk of causing lunar warming and reducing the moon's biodiversity, I think we should get a long hose and pump our CO2 there.
Sat solver, now that is something I work on regularly. Looking on Wikipedia to see what the hell one does, I see in the last 30 years, I have probably needed anything close to it maybe 3 times. Could be more, but I doubt it.
Before you puff your chest out about how great you are because you do this regularly, don't bother. I'm sure I do just as many things you don't.
For reference, we all have differing needs. Yes, there are time when single stepping can be handy. Many times, though it doesn't buy you that much. I generally find if a variable is is not what I think it should be, it happened long before the segfault.
I've only ever seen a true BSOD once in my use of Windows. Shows how little I use it.
I use Linux because Windows sucks in general AND I don't have to buy Nortan anti-virus (choose your poison) just to get online.
Also, my 'If only' quotient goes way down with Linux. "If only I could do this..., If only I could do that..." I rarely say this with Linux. I have always had a high If only quotient with MS products, DOS, Windows doesn't matter, they rarely will do what I truly want them to do.
I don't know about the windows debugger, I never used it. I've tried GDB and I just don't like debuggers in general. They always tell me where I am and where I'm going. 80% of the time I know where I am and I need to know how the hell I got there.
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I've been MS free since 1995. Work was novell networked at that time. This is both home and work. My wife and kids use Linux (here at home) as well.
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Life is good. My needs as a S/W developer are different than most. My wife and kids have learned to be creative in their ways. My kids (thanks to the public schools) can cuss fluently in both Linux and Windows
Any inference to race was in put there in your brain, not mine.
.tar, a tarball.
To explain to those of you who does not realize that there are OSs other than Windows and computing did not exist before Al Gore and Bill Gates...
In Unix there is a utility named tar. It takes a collection of files and puts them into a single file with the extension of
My statement was a statement against Sourceforge. I would've used the same statement for Hillery, Obama or McCain, hell I would've used it for anybody that the original post was written about (including my mother!) because my statement was about Sourceforge, not the candidate.
Sourceforge has millions of crappy projects all with either a TAR FILE of ZIP FILE which will not build, has no description, no documentaion, can't barely tell what it's supposed to do.
All a project for a web page for Obamma (or any of the candidates) on Sourceforge would do is create him a web page which would be a load of crap. It would not build, It would not have any meaningful description, no documentation. It would probably take his new Lamp guy till November to figure it out and to get it to work.
So which utopia do you live in? Where on earth do you live where people just get along? I mean, I guess it could be in Russia, N. Korea and Myanmar. I hear they don't have problems like this during their elections.
Lead to a project which is probably incomplete, no documentation, and maybe a tarball that won't build.
Kind of funny, I have a brand new microwave. It looked great, cool looking interface, some would even say feature rich. Sadly, the interface, thanks to a slacker coder (or some slacker designer), is mediocre. Simple changes would make it easy and slick to use. But alas, like the way of many things, it's mediocre and cumbersome to use. Kind of like Java in a way.
I guess mediocrity has made our world better. NOT!