What did they say at 15? Something lame and juvenile, or something disgusting and racist?
What about pictures taken via a Web-cam attached to a laptop which was lent to them by their public school?
If it shows them doing something truly horrible, you'd ignore it?
We don't need a statute of limitations on crazy postings, we just need to pay attention to the right things. I don't care if the incoming justice smoked pot at 17, or three days ago. I do care if they've ever expressed racist views, excused someone in authority (police officer, etc) without proper investigation, etc.
That's the problem, the only concern was destabilization. If he'd made the oil-tankers flow on time we'd have let him come up with some cultural excuse to invade anyone.
We really need to have a zero-tolerance policy on dictators/abusive governments.
Of course, by any rational standard (war crimes, etc) ours fails...
If we'd sent peace-keepers to Afghanistan back in the 90s we might not be at war there now. And, having found ourselves 90% of the way into Iraq the first time we should have taken Saddam with us, when the Iraqis and the rest of the world agreed.
Too timid is almost as bad as too aggressive. Dictators are like spousal abusers - not someone you can leave in control of innocents.
The problem is that the USA has a record of removing governments for profit and expedience, not the bad ones. But that doesn't mean all intervention is bad.
The person who found the device did not turn it over to the management of the bar or to the police as would be reasonably expected even of a REGULAR cell phone
According to the story on the website he tried the phone, got the engineer's name, and went to bed. In the morning the phone was wiped remotely. He tried calling Apple but got nowhere.
Gizmodo [...] with intent to commit the felony of copying/photographing trade secrets
If it was lost on a barstool it was no longer a trade secret. It might have become stolen property later when the finder sold it rather than returning it, but once lost it wasn't a secret.
The exterior at any rate. And anything they saw while looking for owner info.
at great fiscal expense to Apple.
Wah. If the mere existence of your device is so secret, don't use it in public.
You make it sound bad, like Apple hasn't tried to sue its competitors out of existence.
A college student obtained the phone, [...] yet made no effort to contact the owner. [...] THIS WAS A STOLEN PHONE.
Apparently attempts were made to contact Apple, and messages left. If so, there's no theft.
At this point it's a lost phone whose owner is hard to reach. Had they simply taken pictures at this point it should have been equivalent to it laying on the barstool - fair game.
They could then have given the guy $5000 for the story and taken a ride to Apple where they video Apple trying to claim the phone without admitting it's theirs.:)
Before you argue that this is an iPhone and not an "article"...
I didn't read the article but if he only took a photo of the exterior of the phone and the phone had ever legally been in public, the mere exterior image of it wouldn't be protected anymore, would it?
I did. Just. And no, those aren't technical specs.
"Up to X hours talktime" under Power and Battery, no mention of actual capacity.
As the OP mentioned, under Sensors it merely lists the sensors - no specifications at all.
Languages, Color, etc are similarly non-technical. In fact, the closest thing to technical specs was the operating temperature range and the list of video formats.
Are there really 'CRC police' at the Apple store freaking out about this stuff?
I haven't actually heard of it, just vague scare tactics from Apple.
You can update them back to stock firmware before you take it to the Apple store.
But you don't need to. They can't deny a warranty because of things that plainly don't matter. This has to pass the judge test too, so if they made a battery that burst into flame when the firmware stopped telling it not to, that wouldn't fly. Companies have been trying to lock people in to buying branded replacement parts for centuries.
Like how patent trolls get great success with trivial additions, like "X - on a digital computer" and later "X - over a digital network", Apple is simply adapting old anti-consumer tactics to new technology in the never-ending game of providing as little as possible for as much as possible.
I would far more upset losing the use of my special-purpose computing appliance as a phone (guess which I have) due to poorly written third party apps than I am with Apple restricting those apps.
Shades of MacOS 8. It's a good thing they're protecting you.
In other words, where I think we differ is that I do not see a need to make every device that is capable of computing into a general purpose device.
No, I think it's where you have a general purpose computing device that you're happy to have locked in simple-mode.
I'd be happy my phone ship in simple-mode, where I couldn't accidentally leave a torrent program running and draining the battery/bandwidth, but I can't imagine why I'd be happy to have a device that could do what I wanted and just wouldn't.
And, those jailbroken devices are no longer under warranty, of course.
Sure, and your car is no longer under warranty because you're using properly-specced yet third-party tires... Where the problem is directly related to software configuration gone wrong after the jailbreaking, yes. In other areas, like the battery, no.
there are men who [... cheat because of PMT symptoms]
there are probably women out there who
Only probably huh? Got a few of your own biases...
Why is the male experience the default that women must try to match in your scenario?
ROFL. You'd be one of those deaf people asking why the hearing way of life is the default.
And it's not the male experience, it's the human experience. Without pain we're happier and nicer to be around. If a 100% effective menstrual pain-pill was available would you criticize it for offering the male experience, or praise it for allowing you to experience your female experience unhindered?
No, it's misogynistic to ignore biology and claim that accepting it is "special treatment."
No, it's factual. People in wheelchairs need ramps but that doesn't mean it's not special treatment.
If the issue was a man with a hormonal anger problem would you be as willing to cut him slack?
But to say, as the grandparent did, that ANY woman who has this problem and is not fixing with through HBC is "negligent" is to completely ignore the fact that for some women it is not treatable or the treatment is worse for them than the condition.
But for those who know about it, could take it, would benefit from it, and need it - they would be negligent in not doing so, right?
He listed ignorant as an option and considering the number of women who don't know about menstrual cups I'd imagine that's a big category.
Anyways, he also said "if you have to put up with" - he's only talking about people who need help. If your friends/loved ones aren't bitching you're probably okay.
But this just makes the hypocrisy all the more palpable.
Right. I bet if you sent a letter to their tech support about trying to get one of their old games working, with the symptoms of DRM failure, that they'd brush you off before telling you to download a crack.
I've had this discussion with Blizzard. Their DRM didn't like my CD-RW (just that it was a CD-RW) and they told me to go get a CD drive. I asked them to send me a dev build without the obvious broken check - even with my name in it - and they wouldn't. They claimed it was impossible to remove. I sent them a link to the crack and asked again. They read me the riot act about piracy, ignoring the fact that had I been using a pirated copy I wouldn't have had DRM trouble, and that I was asking them for another way...
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What did they say at 15? Something lame and juvenile, or something disgusting and racist?
What about pictures taken via a Web-cam attached to a laptop which was lent to them by their public school?
If it shows them doing something truly horrible, you'd ignore it?
We don't need a statute of limitations on crazy postings, we just need to pay attention to the right things. I don't care if the incoming justice smoked pot at 17, or three days ago. I do care if they've ever expressed racist views, excused someone in authority (police officer, etc) without proper investigation, etc.
U.S. Ambassador in Iraq, April Glaspie: [The USA] has no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts.
It's tenuous to call it permission, but Saddam may have seen it as such - after all, who wouldn't have an opinion on a thing they didn't want you to do?
he was destabilizing the whole region
That's the problem, the only concern was destabilization. If he'd made the oil-tankers flow on time we'd have let him come up with some cultural excuse to invade anyone.
We really need to have a zero-tolerance policy on dictators/abusive governments.
Of course, by any rational standard (war crimes, etc) ours fails...
If we'd sent peace-keepers to Afghanistan back in the 90s we might not be at war there now. And, having found ourselves 90% of the way into Iraq the first time we should have taken Saddam with us, when the Iraqis and the rest of the world agreed.
Too timid is almost as bad as too aggressive. Dictators are like spousal abusers - not someone you can leave in control of innocents.
The problem is that the USA has a record of removing governments for profit and expedience, not the bad ones. But that doesn't mean all intervention is bad.
The person who found the device did not turn it over to the management of the bar or to the police as would be reasonably expected even of a REGULAR cell phone
According to the story on the website he tried the phone, got the engineer's name, and went to bed. In the morning the phone was wiped remotely. He tried calling Apple but got nowhere.
Gizmodo [...] with intent to commit the felony of copying/photographing trade secrets
If it was lost on a barstool it was no longer a trade secret. It might have become stolen property later when the finder sold it rather than returning it, but once lost it wasn't a secret.
The exterior at any rate. And anything they saw while looking for owner info.
at great fiscal expense to Apple.
Wah. If the mere existence of your device is so secret, don't use it in public.
You make it sound bad, like Apple hasn't tried to sue its competitors out of existence.
A college student obtained the phone, [...] yet made no effort to contact the owner. [...] THIS WAS A STOLEN PHONE.
Apparently attempts were made to contact Apple, and messages left. If so, there's no theft.
At this point it's a lost phone whose owner is hard to reach. Had they simply taken pictures at this point it should have been equivalent to it laying on the barstool - fair game.
They could then have given the guy $5000 for the story and taken a ride to Apple where they video Apple trying to claim the phone without admitting it's theirs. :)
Before you argue that this is an iPhone and not an "article"...
I didn't read the article but if he only took a photo of the exterior of the phone and the phone had ever legally been in public, the mere exterior image of it wouldn't be protected anymore, would it?
I did. Just. And no, those aren't technical specs.
"Up to X hours talktime" under Power and Battery, no mention of actual capacity.
As the OP mentioned, under Sensors it merely lists the sensors - no specifications at all.
Languages, Color, etc are similarly non-technical. In fact, the closest thing to technical specs was the operating temperature range and the list of video formats.
Are there really 'CRC police' at the Apple store freaking out about this stuff?
I haven't actually heard of it, just vague scare tactics from Apple.
You can update them back to stock firmware before you take it to the Apple store.
But you don't need to. They can't deny a warranty because of things that plainly don't matter. This has to pass the judge test too, so if they made a battery that burst into flame when the firmware stopped telling it not to, that wouldn't fly. Companies have been trying to lock people in to buying branded replacement parts for centuries.
Like how patent trolls get great success with trivial additions, like "X - on a digital computer" and later "X - over a digital network", Apple is simply adapting old anti-consumer tactics to new technology in the never-ending game of providing as little as possible for as much as possible.
That's why I mentioned properly-specced yet third-party tires.
Apple: We pretend our profiteering is for YOU!
sites that rely on flash to show their content
... are not the only use for Flash. That's the use that sucks.
Anyone who does something with Flash that they couldn't do with just html/css/javascript isn't abusing it like in your example.
You are being played by Adobe
No, I don't like Adobe. We agree on this one issue but we're not dating.
not for your freedom like they say, but to preserve their profit and control of the world wide web.
Yes, exactly the same reason Apple is forbidding Flash.
I would far more upset losing the use of my special-purpose computing appliance as a phone (guess which I have) due to poorly written third party apps than I am with Apple restricting those apps.
Shades of MacOS 8. It's a good thing they're protecting you.
In other words, where I think we differ is that I do not see a need to make every device that is capable of computing into a general purpose device.
No, I think it's where you have a general purpose computing device that you're happy to have locked in simple-mode.
I'd be happy my phone ship in simple-mode, where I couldn't accidentally leave a torrent program running and draining the battery/bandwidth, but I can't imagine why I'd be happy to have a device that could do what I wanted and just wouldn't.
And, those jailbroken devices are no longer under warranty, of course.
Sure, and your car is no longer under warranty because you're using properly-specced yet third-party tires... Where the problem is directly related to software configuration gone wrong after the jailbreaking, yes. In other areas, like the battery, no.
For you, yes. And depending on ACTA, probably everyone.
But that's the issue I'd challenge. Making and distributing it.
With a crack containing no derivative code - merely NOPing out pieces I didn't want. It's illegal, but shouldn't be.
You do realize that it isn't, right? It's sold.
The license is in the box after the sale but by then it's mine. There's a a big difference between owning the copyright and owning the copy.
I do not mind if others use my wifi
Thanks. Nice to see other people share basic net access.
The law may or may not protect you, so why not just protect yourself and end the debate?
Because that defeats the open wifi mesh. Locking everything down just to make other people easier to sue seems like a horrible idea.
How can it be baseless when he based it on something?
Just because you don't care about his user experience doesn't mean it's fictional.
More importantly, why are you acting like putting tech specs on a tech spec page and feature list on a features page would be bad for Apple?
Seems that it's where this guy looked, and where I'd look, and, you know, everyone who reads.
But I don't think he cares what's good for Apple, he's speaking for himself when he says it sucks.
it's not your place to judge.
That's lunacy. Might not be my place to act, but telling me not to have an opinion is rude and ludicrous.
there are men who [... cheat because of PMT symptoms]
there are probably women out there who
Only probably huh? Got a few of your own biases...
Why is the male experience the default that women must try to match in your scenario?
ROFL. You'd be one of those deaf people asking why the hearing way of life is the default.
And it's not the male experience, it's the human experience. Without pain we're happier and nicer to be around. If a 100% effective menstrual pain-pill was available would you criticize it for offering the male experience, or praise it for allowing you to experience your female experience unhindered?
No, it's misogynistic to ignore biology and claim that accepting it is "special treatment."
No, it's factual. People in wheelchairs need ramps but that doesn't mean it's not special treatment.
If the issue was a man with a hormonal anger problem would you be as willing to cut him slack?
But to say, as the grandparent did, that ANY woman who has this problem and is not fixing with through HBC is "negligent" is to completely ignore the fact that for some women it is not treatable or the treatment is worse for them than the condition.
But for those who know about it, could take it, would benefit from it, and need it - they would be negligent in not doing so, right?
He listed ignorant as an option and considering the number of women who don't know about menstrual cups I'd imagine that's a big category.
Anyways, he also said "if you have to put up with" - he's only talking about people who need help. If your friends/loved ones aren't bitching you're probably okay.
go say a little prayer
What could that possibly help?
Paid for, illegal, book sold mistakenly by Amazon without right to copyright.
So? No, really - so?
Not my mistake, why should I lose my book? Had I bought it in paper form I'd still have it. If I bought it as a direct download I'd still have it.
Bought for the Kindle(/iPhone/XBox), gone long kindling.
Apple is only trying to "stop" you when you use their devices.
Rly? Wow. I thought Apple was selling the iPhone, I didn't know they were loaning them out. Someone should seriously consider telling the customers...
But this just makes the hypocrisy all the more palpable.
Right. I bet if you sent a letter to their tech support about trying to get one of their old games working, with the symptoms of DRM failure, that they'd brush you off before telling you to download a crack.
I've had this discussion with Blizzard. Their DRM didn't like my CD-RW (just that it was a CD-RW) and they told me to go get a CD drive. I asked them to send me a dev build without the obvious broken check - even with my name in it - and they wouldn't. They claimed it was impossible to remove. I sent them a link to the crack and asked again. They read me the riot act about piracy, ignoring the fact that had I been using a pirated copy I wouldn't have had DRM trouble, and that I was asking them for another way...