"But an ASSUMPTION like above about "Well, there's a problem, it must be Windows!" just makes my ears perk up immediately and want to check the facts. Why doesn't it for the Slashdot editors?"
Because not only do the editors dislike MS, but also because MS richly deserves to never be given the benefit of the doubt, on anything, ever again.
"No, why should I? I don't ask a murdering piece of shit why he is what he is."
Indeed, ignorance is truly bliss isn't it.
"We represent everything they are not.... Our very existence, our very success is a constant reminder to them that they are failures."
So they're just jealous. Which is the only reason why so many people hate MS for instance, right?
"FYI, if I had moderator points I would have moderated you down as off-topic or a troll. Unfortunately, I could not moderate you down for being a complete fucking idiot."
Hate filled speech from a hate filled person. That's the really sad fact. I can absolutely tell that you aren't just trolling. Not that the individual issues you mention aren't at play on various levels. However they are most certainly not the underlying reason the towers fell. But you don't care about that anyway.
"If the government needs more gold, they'll just dig it up, like Spain did. And remember, gold-extraction technology is much more advanced now. Besides which, gold is completely unregulatable - if gold is money people are gonna dig it up on their own accord (unless you plan on shooting prospectors)."
There is less than one ounce of gold per person globally, or about 140,000 tons TOTAL above ground supply, with a global yearly production of about 3000. And production is dropping due to a manipulated market keeping it from being profitable. Go tell the geologists working for the mining companies about all this gold that's just laying around, they'd love to hear about it.
Just keep thinking that gold isn't money. Explain it very carefully to all the Japanese folks fleeing to it as a _store of value_, who are experiencing first hand the effects of a total disconnect of monetary policy from reality. All the fucking voodoo, hand-waving, pseudo-intellectual bullshit the bankers over there can muster isn't doing ANY GOOD. And it's not just Japan. Ask someone from South America who has watched their paper assets get annihilated, or Russia. Gold as a store of value is unbeatable. It's the best performing asset class over the last year+ for that simple, yet very good reason. But no, gold is a 'barbarous relic'. I'll take yours then, thanks very much.
Note that I'm not advocating a return to some by-gone 'gold standard'. Just sound monetary policy, of which the current Treasury, Fed, BIS, IMF, et al are the antithesis.
There are many ways to kill. A gun is but one of them. There's only one way to cover your dick. There are many uses for a gun. There's really only one use for a condom (STD protection is limited at best IMO). Your comparison is baseless.
All governments regulate the economy to some degree. The only question is how much. "Free market" vs. "government interference" is a false dichotomy, a Randoid fantasy.
You are overstating it. Before the advent of the Federal Reserve, eventual move to a baseless currency and the adoption of a debt-based economy, things were pretty good. Jefferson had this shit nailed two hundred years ago:
"...we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt...If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people...must come to labor 16 hours in the 24, give the earnings of 15 of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the 16th being insufficient to afford us bread,...We have no time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves, to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow sufferers. Our land holders, too...retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury...this is the tendency of all human governments."
"A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering...And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it's train, wretchedness and oppression."
"The bold efforts that the present bank has made to control the government and the distress it has wantonly caused, are but premonitions of the fate which awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it...If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system there would be a revolution before morning."
But what did our founders know? Society was different then. Bullshit. Human nature, especially as concerns power and greed, is ever the same.
"Programming is something you should do to support your real job. Get over it."
Right, and we all know how much world class software has been written by accountants, HR and marketing people. And how many VB jockeys even know who Donald Knuth is. Spare me.
This may actually be a really worthwhile thing. They should put meditation training in the call hold system so you can get enlightened while you wait. Or, in fact, get any enlightenment at all if their tech support is like most.
1. The science of measuring time. 2. The art of making timepieces.
So this guy made a watch that just runs, forever, without a battery, movement, or purposeful interaction of any kind, a feat never before accomplished by anyone, and it's of 'no horological significance'. You are an ass.
If the common man were to no longer be able to defend himself with a firearm, the number of innocent victims of violent crimes each year would far exceed the current sum of children either injured or killed by them. It's not worth it, hard as that may be to swallow. Just look at Australia and how their crime stats responded when their guns were taken. Here's a few choice quotes from an Associated Press article about it:
Robbery with a firearm increased nearly 60 per cent over the previous financial year. South Australian Police Annual Report - tabled in State Parliament 27/10/98
Murders by firearms have actually increased (in Victoria) since the buyback scheme which removed 225,000 registered and un-registered firearms from circuation. There were 18 shooting murders in 1996-97 after the buyback scheme had been introduced compared with only six in 1995-96 before the scheme started. "Killing rise in gun hunt" - Herald Sun - Melbourne 23/12/98
According to ABS figures, the number of people robbed at gunpoint in NSW rose from 827 in 1996 to 1252 in 1997. Sunday Telegraph - Sydney - 14/3/98 302
The number of Victorians murdered with firearms has almost trebled since the introduction of tighter gun laws. Geelong Advertiser - Victoria 11/9/97 506
This will do nothing but create a black market in cracking/disabling the protection on guns and get innocent women and children killed. And it raises many questions about implementation. Will only _one_ person be able to fire a given gun? How does one change ownership? Add/remove 'users'? Guess I can forget firing my buddies gun at the range, let alone a friendly strangers.
From the article: "There are safety regulations on cars, on toys. It's clearly time we have safety regulations on handguns," McGreevey said at the signing ceremony.
I'm pretty sure that I could kill someone with any car and most kids toys available on the market. I seem to recall a guy named David taking out a giant with nothing but a slingshot, the ancient precursor of the gun. What no regulation can control is intent. If someone intends to do me harm I want to be able to protect myself, or at least have a chance to, like David did. Not being Ahnold, a gun gives me that. Why do people consider it nuts to desire to use the most effective means of self-defense available (next to common sense)? I consider it nuts not to.
"Mono makes it possible (or will eventually make it ppssible) to take complete.NET applications and run them on something other than Windows. This will end the Windows Lock-in factor for a lot of one-platform applications."
Until MS decides to change the libraries in such a way that will break them on non-Windows systems, as they are not a part of any standards body submissions. According to Miguel, Wine is already depended on to deal with parts of the Forms library.
You reminded me of a cartoon I saw in Car&Driver years ago. It had an image of a screaming woman going over a cliff in a car, with the caption "Definition of Mixed Feelings: Watching your mother-in-law go over a cliff in your new Ferrari." Watching Mono develop is the geek equivalent.
I obviously didn't make any statements about what Struts is. All I said is that I prefer using Velocity. The reason is that I didn't/don't need the additional functionality that Struts offers. Jeez.
"Just write it yourself" and "Perl! Perl! Perl!"
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WTFever people. From the Velocity (which I prefer to Struts) site:
Velocity is a Java-based template engine. It permits anyone to use the simple yet powerful template language to reference objects defined in Java code.
When Velocity is used for web development, Web designers can work in parallel with Java programmers to develop web sites according to the Model-View-Controller (MVC) model, meaning that web page designers can focus solely on creating a site that looks good, and programmers can focus solely on writing top-notch code. Velocity separates Java code from the web pages, making the web site more maintainable over the long run and providing a viable alternative to Java Server Pages (JSPs) or PHP.
Velocity's capabilities reach well beyond the realm of web sites; for example, it can generate SQL and PostScript and XML (see Anakia for more information on XML transformations) from templates. It can be used either as a standalone utility for generating source code and reports, or as an integrated component of other systems. Velocity also provides template services for the Turbine web application framework. Velocity+Turbine provides a template service that allows web applications to be developed according to a true MVC model.
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Velocity is dead simple to use, as it is not some kind of entire 'framework' that wants to manage your DB connections, life, etc. It makes using JSP look like masochism. If you really feel like recreating the wheel though, and are convinced that you know better, etc. then feel free to waste your time. I pity the fool who has to maintain your cruft though.
(Would like to be posting more thoroughly on this, but it ain't happening this morning...)
The day I found Velocity was the day I forgot JSP existed. Unless this new tool can somehow manage to provide even more power and flexibility than servlets + Velocity templating (with a smidgen of Javascript for controlling form data entry), it's DOA to me.
What precisely do you mean by "full ECMA certification"? Last I heard it was just the language itself and none of the libraries. Which is effectively the same as none of it being submitted since MS can still break compatibility across platforms that they themselves don't support. So it boils down to trust, which I have zero of in MS.
As for your endianness claims, here's part of two messages from a Google group search on the issue:
One: "Java specifies the endianness used in object files, and (I believe) the endianness used when writing numbers to binary data files, but the language is defined in such a way that there is no way for a program to tell which endianness is used for in-memory representations. So long as the JVM (Java Virtual Machine) implementation does the correct conversions when reading in `.class' files and when read/writing binary data files, it is free to use a little-endian represention internally."
Two: "If you'd bothered to study the JVM before jumping to such conclusions you'd know that, in a.class file, the constant pool contains _unaligned_ data of _variable-length_, endianness is completely irrelevant. The thing _has_ to be parsed byte-by-byte... Not even the bytecode vectors are aligned within the file, although the tableswitch' and 'lookupswitch' bytecodes are word-aligned within the code vectors, so these are the only constructs that would require extra work on a little-endian machine, and only in the 25% of cases where the code vector happens to be word-aligned by accident.... Incidentally the format of the constant pool _inside the JVM_ is completely undefined and up to the implementor."
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"WHENEVER you are certain, you've made a mistake."
You certain about that?
Imagine a Beowulf, hic, clushter of these....
"if Microsoft wasn't around as this big tough huge competition, things wouldn't progress nearly as much"
Yeah, like all the progress from the startups that never started due to VC's refusing to fund a business that even _might_ compete with MS.
"But an ASSUMPTION like above about "Well, there's a problem, it must be Windows!" just makes my ears perk up immediately and want to check the facts. Why doesn't it for the Slashdot editors?"
Because not only do the editors dislike MS, but also because MS richly deserves to never be given the benefit of the doubt, on anything, ever again.
"No, why should I? I don't ask a murdering piece of shit why he is what he is."
... Our very existence, our very success is a constant reminder to them that they are failures."
Indeed, ignorance is truly bliss isn't it.
"We represent everything they are not.
So they're just jealous. Which is the only reason why so many people hate MS for instance, right?
"FYI, if I had moderator points I would have moderated you down as off-topic or a troll. Unfortunately, I could not moderate you down for being a complete fucking idiot."
Hate filled speech from a hate filled person. That's the really sad fact. I can absolutely tell that you aren't just trolling. Not that the individual issues you mention aren't at play on various levels. However they are most certainly not the underlying reason the towers fell. But you don't care about that anyway.
It was the freakiness that kept me coming back! ;)
Someone had this quote in their sig on another thread:
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power" -- Mussolini
Needless to say, I saved it!
"If the government needs more gold, they'll just dig it up, like Spain did. And remember, gold-extraction technology is much more advanced now. Besides which, gold is completely unregulatable - if gold is money people are gonna dig it up on their own accord (unless you plan on shooting prospectors)."
There is less than one ounce of gold per person globally, or about 140,000 tons TOTAL above ground supply, with a global yearly production of about 3000. And production is dropping due to a manipulated market keeping it from being profitable. Go tell the geologists working for the mining companies about all this gold that's just laying around, they'd love to hear about it.
Just keep thinking that gold isn't money. Explain it very carefully to all the Japanese folks fleeing to it as a _store of value_, who are experiencing first hand the effects of a total disconnect of monetary policy from reality. All the fucking voodoo, hand-waving, pseudo-intellectual bullshit the bankers over there can muster isn't doing ANY GOOD. And it's not just Japan. Ask someone from South America who has watched their paper assets get annihilated, or Russia. Gold as a store of value is unbeatable. It's the best performing asset class over the last year+ for that simple, yet very good reason. But no, gold is a 'barbarous relic'. I'll take yours then, thanks very much.
Note that I'm not advocating a return to some by-gone 'gold standard'. Just sound monetary policy, of which the current Treasury, Fed, BIS, IMF, et al are the antithesis.
There are many ways to kill. A gun is but one of them. There's only one way to cover your dick. There are many uses for a gun. There's really only one use for a condom (STD protection is limited at best IMO). Your comparison is baseless.
All governments regulate the economy to some degree. The only question is how much. "Free market" vs. "government interference" is a false dichotomy, a Randoid fantasy.
You are overstating it. Before the advent of the Federal Reserve, eventual move to a baseless currency and the adoption of a debt-based economy, things were pretty good. Jefferson had this shit nailed two hundred years ago:
"...we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt...If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people...must come to labor 16 hours in the 24, give the earnings of 15 of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the 16th being insufficient to afford us bread,...We have no time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves, to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow sufferers. Our land holders, too...retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury...this is the tendency of all human governments."
"A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering...And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it's train, wretchedness and oppression."
"The bold efforts that the present bank has made to control the government and the distress it has wantonly caused, are but premonitions of the fate which awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it...If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system there would be a revolution before morning."
But what did our founders know? Society was different then. Bullshit. Human nature, especially as concerns power and greed, is ever the same.
"Programming is something you should do to support your real job. Get over it."
Right, and we all know how much world class software has been written by accountants, HR and marketing people. And how many VB jockeys even know who Donald Knuth is. Spare me.
This may actually be a really worthwhile thing. They should put meditation training in the call hold system so you can get enlightened while you wait. Or, in fact, get any enlightenment at all if their tech support is like most.
If they had nothing but healthy patients, why not?
What fucking dictionary are you using?
horology (hô-rl-j) n.
1. The science of measuring time.
2. The art of making timepieces.
So this guy made a watch that just runs, forever, without a battery, movement, or purposeful interaction of any kind, a feat never before accomplished by anyone, and it's of 'no horological significance'. You are an ass.
If the common man were to no longer be able to defend himself with a firearm, the number of innocent victims of violent crimes each year would far exceed the current sum of children either injured or killed by them. It's not worth it, hard as that may be to swallow. Just look at Australia and how their crime stats responded when their guns were taken. Here's a few choice quotes from an Associated Press article about it:
Robbery with a firearm increased nearly 60 per cent over the previous financial year.
South Australian Police Annual Report - tabled in State Parliament 27/10/98
Murders by firearms have actually increased (in Victoria) since the buyback scheme which removed 225,000 registered and un-registered firearms from circuation. There were 18 shooting murders in 1996-97 after the buyback scheme had been introduced compared with only six in 1995-96 before the scheme started.
"Killing rise in gun hunt" - Herald Sun - Melbourne 23/12/98
According to ABS figures, the number of people robbed at gunpoint in NSW rose from 827 in 1996 to 1252 in 1997.
Sunday Telegraph - Sydney - 14/3/98 302
The number of Victorians murdered with firearms has almost trebled since the introduction of tighter gun laws.
Geelong Advertiser - Victoria 11/9/97 506
This will do nothing but create a black market in cracking/disabling the protection on guns and get innocent women and children killed. And it raises many questions about implementation. Will only _one_ person be able to fire a given gun? How does one change ownership? Add/remove 'users'? Guess I can forget firing my buddies gun at the range, let alone a friendly strangers.
From the article:
"There are safety regulations on cars, on toys. It's clearly time we have safety regulations on handguns," McGreevey said at the signing ceremony.
I'm pretty sure that I could kill someone with any car and most kids toys available on the market. I seem to recall a guy named David taking out a giant with nothing but a slingshot, the ancient precursor of the gun. What no regulation can control is intent. If someone intends to do me harm I want to be able to protect myself, or at least have a chance to, like David did. Not being Ahnold, a gun gives me that. Why do people consider it nuts to desire to use the most effective means of self-defense available (next to common sense)? I consider it nuts not to.
Not bitter. Check out the deadly sin poll comments, specifically the ones about pride.
"Mono makes it possible (or will eventually make it ppssible) to take complete .NET applications and run them on something other than Windows. This will end the Windows Lock-in factor for a lot of one-platform applications."
Until MS decides to change the libraries in such a way that will break them on non-Windows systems, as they are not a part of any standards body submissions. According to Miguel, Wine is already depended on to deal with parts of the Forms library.
"are you a peace activist or pro-Palestinian?"
It IS possible to be both you know.
You reminded me of a cartoon I saw in Car&Driver years ago. It had an image of a screaming woman going over a cliff in a car, with the caption "Definition of Mixed Feelings: Watching your mother-in-law go over a cliff in your new Ferrari." Watching Mono develop is the geek equivalent.
I obviously didn't make any statements about what Struts is. All I said is that I prefer using Velocity. The reason is that I didn't/don't need the additional functionality that Struts offers. Jeez.
WTFever people. From the Velocity (which I prefer to Struts) site:
Velocity is a Java-based template engine. It permits anyone to use the simple yet powerful template language to reference objects defined in Java code.
When Velocity is used for web development, Web designers can work in parallel with Java programmers to develop web sites according to the Model-View-Controller (MVC) model, meaning that web page designers can focus solely on creating a site that looks good, and programmers can focus solely on writing top-notch code. Velocity separates Java code from the web pages, making the web site more maintainable over the long run and providing a viable alternative to Java Server Pages (JSPs) or PHP.
Velocity's capabilities reach well beyond the realm of web sites; for example, it can generate SQL and PostScript and XML (see Anakia for more information on XML transformations) from templates. It can be used either as a standalone utility for generating source code and reports, or as an integrated component of other systems. Velocity also provides template services for the Turbine web application framework. Velocity+Turbine provides a template service that allows web applications to be developed according to a true MVC model.
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Velocity is dead simple to use, as it is not some kind of entire 'framework' that wants to manage your DB connections, life, etc. It makes using JSP look like masochism. If you really feel like recreating the wheel though, and are convinced that you know better, etc. then feel free to waste your time. I pity the fool who has to maintain your cruft though.
(Would like to be posting more thoroughly on this, but it ain't happening this morning...)
Actually, 1 through 3 appear complimentary to 5 (albeit 3 could be haggled over). Four is the only thing that seems out of place.
The day I found Velocity was the day I forgot JSP existed. Unless this new tool can somehow manage to provide even more power and flexibility than servlets + Velocity templating (with a smidgen of Javascript for controlling form data entry), it's DOA to me.
What precisely do you mean by "full ECMA certification"? Last I heard it was just the language itself and none of the libraries. Which is effectively the same as none of it being submitted since MS can still break compatibility across platforms that they themselves don't support. So it boils down to trust, which I have zero of in MS.
.class file, the constant pool contains
As for your endianness claims, here's part of two messages from a Google group search on the issue:
One:
"Java specifies the endianness used in object files, and (I believe) the
endianness used when writing numbers to binary data files, but the
language is defined in such a way that there is no way for a program to
tell which endianness is used for in-memory representations. So long
as the JVM (Java Virtual Machine) implementation does the correct
conversions when reading in `.class' files and when read/writing binary
data files, it is free to use a little-endian represention internally."
Two:
"If you'd bothered to study the JVM before jumping to such conclusions
you'd know that, in a
_unaligned_ data of _variable-length_, endianness is completely
irrelevant. The thing _has_ to be parsed byte-by-byte... Not even
the bytecode vectors are aligned within the file, although the
tableswitch' and 'lookupswitch' bytecodes are word-aligned within the
code vectors, so these are the only constructs that would require
extra work on a little-endian machine, and only in the 25% of cases
where the code vector happens to be word-aligned by accident....
Incidentally the format of the constant pool _inside the JVM_ is
completely undefined and up to the implementor."