He was probably thinking of R-11 which is liquid at slightly below room temp, or Fluorinert. R-11 which contains a shitpot of the so-called "ozone killer" chlorine, was banned immediately when the fed signed the clean air act. The AC techs used to use R-11 to clean electronics and calibrate their equipment with it. Great stuff.
On a side note,i'm surprised that the IT dept have not made a attempt to either duct chilled air directly into the racks, or tap the chilled water system that their buildings use to keep their rooms cool. I mean, thats 35 degree water circulating through those pipes, you know? Even a simple titanium heat exchanger would be able to tap a large amount of heat from the systems that use H2O coolers.
I would not dare try to tap directly into the building's chill water supply and route that water into any system. That stuff's nasty, got small chunks of dirt in it, and it would probably eat up the lines, save for tygon and some other hardy plastics. Or worse, the pressure surges might cause a fitting to pop loose! Why do you think they use IRON to plumb the chill water systems? 'sides, the pumps used to circulate the water are 5-20HP 3phase pumps and i'm not about to try to monkey with the head pressures those monsters dish out.
And all that time, tossing and turning in your bed, worrying full-time about all your gear that's sitting on that company's lot, surrounded only by a rusty chain-link fence with a even more rustier (or non existent) barbwire top, that only a criminal would simply lean on and it would fall over. Or worse, the mechanics that have "sticky fingers" or your equipment simply grows legs and walks off...
Have you guys ever checked the insurance rates on a Class-A RV? My god, they approach the levels of owning a 2 bedroom house! That and maintaining the beast, where are you going to sleep when it's in the garage with a blown motor? Or worse, the bloody thing starts leaking around the seams? The service center most likely will not allow you to stay in the vehicle while it's in their garage overnight.
The air conditioning in the vehicles are not conducive to electronics while in a high humidity area, for they are glorified window AC units. All they do is cool the air and TRY to pull the moisture out of it, but not really succeeding. Sure, they may look great but to be really a place to house your systems in, you actually have to increase your housing budget by a small factor to cover the extra things. Beefier wiring, more outlets, dehumidification, a better refrigerator than the slow and ice up like a ship in the north sea ammonia units.
By the time you get done, you'll have something like the emergency response vehicles that the larger metro poilce forces are using for mobile command posts. All electronics and few luxuries.
Ever try to fit anything into a JetRanger? You can't hardly fit standard carryon luggage into that thing without using a shoe horn! Much less anything else, like a 10-speed, or a femur from a T-Rex... The thing encased inside the plaster cast must have displaced the helo's center of gravity so much that they had to break the bloody thing into several pieces and make more than one trip.
Odds are that the helo in question did not have a belly hook, or carrying hardware for slinging loads under it. Or else the pilot was not qualified for flying underslung payloads.
I recall seeing something similiar in a Popular Science mag, back in the classifieds for a miracle efficiency improver that uses magnets to clean up the ethane and octane chains in your gas.
Heh.
When you have oceanfront property in Missouri to sell me, let me know.
I already uninstalled my AIM and done gone somewhere else with my IMing.
Their PR parrots and Legals should have collaborated BEFORE they opened their big mouths on this matter. Now they are having to play catchup, in a BIG way.
Bad timing aoHell. In this day and age, that kind of legal play can lose you a couple of million users as fast as your CSRs (customer service reps) can field them.
It's rather hard not to miss any of my rebates, since I use 24 point type Times New Roman BOLD on the PDF copy of the rebate form. Or simply stuff the ticket into a typewriter and fill it out using clear and ledgible characters.
I feel that it is the manufacture's responsibility to fulfill the requirement(s) that these rebates promise.
The retailer's responsibility is that they allow for a longer time interval for when the manufacture issues the rebate for ANY product until the logical last day deadline. This seems to trip up alot of people when they see rebates advertised on a Sunday flyer, for some put up the offers only a few days before the deadline. So everyone rushes to buy the product to send in for the rebate.
If the retailer is the originating point for the rebate offers, all of the above apply to them, hands down.
ALWAYS! read the fine print on these rebates or any other item that seems to be too good to be true. If the fine print is not there, feel free to go up to the service desk at the retailer and ask for a copy of the fine print for the rebate offer in question. If they waffle about it or they don't have a copy, then take a look at the manufacturer's website to see if they posted it there.
If not, move along folks, nothing to see here but a fraudster at work...
Been down this road with the spoofed HOSTS file and went ten rounds with the hosting provider on this matter, until I dropped the hammer on them with a nice note to the banks in question.. Now I doubt that any hosting provider would want a International Incident for not pulling a phishing site in a timely manner, don't you think? Or are they simply too mercenary to ignore the risks or getting their root DNS blocklisted by the big boys?
The question is not as of when will the guillotine fall, it's how high will it be before it does. Considering SCO's screwups and legal wranglings, i'd say that the height will be stratospheric and more than a few heads will be in the stocks when it falls.
Now i'm surprised at that, considering that they reserved a IP address for two lines of HTML and some javascripting. They seemed not to give a damm about a phishing site being on their system.
I ran across a phishing site on a client's system while cleaning it up. The HOSTS file had 6 entries in it, redirecting any requests for 5 British banks and one Brazilan banco, to a IP at EV1.net. I busted my ass in a effort to get EV1.net's support team and administrative suits to pull the IP, but all I got was canned replies: "Forward the information to the abuse department". So I did so.
Two weeks passed, and EV1.net did not take any action whatsoever. So, I sent the report to the big Brit banks, which included The Bank of England, Barclays, and the legendary Lloyds. I got immediate replies, personal ones, NOT canned, that they would immediately take legal action agianst the offending CSP.
I checked the IP shortly after receiving the replies and got a DNS error.
It seems to me that EV1.net, which is based in Houston, has merc tendencies when it comes to site hosting.
Naw, they would not go as far as modifying the power output without putting some sort of major notice on the system. I believe that Micron tried something like that once, departing from the AT standard at the time. They caught hell for it and were forced to switch back to the old standard.
Same went for Packard Hell (Bell) and their little powerpacks.. $100+ US for a power supply? Forget it.
Just got done tangling with a Dell system that got it's onboard VGA plug ripped out (idiot customer didnt unscrew the thumbscrews before he yanked). I got a wild idea about putting a MSI board into the case, only to discover that the mounting holes on the backplane do NOT match up with the HSF holes for the mounting bracket. I sat back, cussed and stewed over this, only to come to a conclusion that Intel and Dell did a backroom agreement that they would alter the design for the HSF mounting points to keep any customer from doing a swapout of the mainboard without doing some major surgery. Fortunately I went and got a HSF from a local supplier and pretty much bypassed most of the BS that is inside a dell case. This looks like that it was no accident, the backplane is 2 centimeters to the right of the holes on the MSI board. If you think that i'm full of it, there are TWO sets of HSF mounting holes on the backplane that are pretty much set up for certain intel boards. None of the P4 boards I have will match up with them.
And pray that the rest of the UPS is in good shape.. The ones i've ran across have gotten the silicon kicked out of them, either fried relays or their surge protection practially vaporized by numerous power surges.
Just got done trying to work on a 4 year old HP pavillion that has voltage drops on it's power supply. Told the customer to go get a new system, despite her protests that it was only 4 years old..
Heh..
I'm sticking with the "old-school" printers until this situation blows over so I can chuck this dammed lexmark into the can.
{snip} I'm with you on your conclusion. The chip at current limiting gives you about 7.5 Watts, not 120 Watts or anything close. I have a night light for the kids that put out the same heat he could have gotten. {/snip}
And I got a easy-bake oven that uses a 100 watt lamp that will do the same.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/ezbake.shtml On a side note, me and my fellow geeks here in the office debated about how to build a microwave oven into a case. But that got shot full of holes due to the energy required, the shielding needed to keep the PC's electronics from being scrambled, and the power surge that a micro creates when it turns on, which is rather excessive. Oh, did I mention it's added WEIGHT? 20lbs for the transformer itself! And the safety that is required when tangling with microwave energy of such magnitude (two door switches that will blow the micro's fuse if they are not in agreement), the heating chamber itself, the door, it's gasketing, and the power that the transformer and magnetron generates when running at a full head of steam.
Of course, when big business is losing a case, you know that they will fight it tooth and nail to the bitter end. Then turn right back around and introdice some kind of process that will bypass the court's judgement. Then the whole dammed cycle will start back up agian!
Heheheh, that was a plug on Stargate, SG1. There was this Ancient that was placed under Major (now Lt. Colonel) Carter's care. He built his own stargate out of two appliances, a couple grand of gadgets that he bought using her credit card (ouch!), and got away before the pentagon's goons could get ahold of him.
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He was probably thinking of R-11 which is liquid at slightly below room temp, or Fluorinert. R-11 which contains a shitpot of the so-called "ozone killer" chlorine, was banned immediately when the fed signed the clean air act. The AC techs used to use R-11 to clean electronics and calibrate their equipment with it. Great stuff.
On a side note,i'm surprised that the IT dept have not made a attempt to either duct chilled air directly into the racks, or tap the chilled water system that their buildings use to keep their rooms cool. I mean, thats 35 degree water circulating through those pipes, you know? Even a simple titanium heat exchanger would be able to tap a large amount of heat from the systems that use H2O coolers.
I would not dare try to tap directly into the building's chill water supply and route that water into any system. That stuff's nasty, got small chunks of dirt in it, and it would probably eat up the lines, save for tygon and some other hardy plastics. Or worse, the pressure surges might cause a fitting to pop loose! Why do you think they use IRON to plumb the chill water systems?
'sides, the pumps used to circulate the water are 5-20HP 3phase pumps and i'm not about to try to monkey with the head pressures those monsters dish out.
And all that time, tossing and turning in your bed, worrying full-time about all your gear that's sitting on that company's lot, surrounded only by a rusty chain-link fence with a even more rustier (or non existent) barbwire top, that only a criminal would simply lean on and it would fall over. Or worse, the mechanics that have "sticky fingers" or your equipment simply grows legs and walks off...
It's tough on a geek to do something like that.
Have you guys ever checked the insurance rates on a Class-A RV? My god, they approach the levels of owning a 2 bedroom house! That and maintaining the beast, where are you going to sleep when it's in the garage with a blown motor? Or worse, the bloody thing starts leaking around the seams? The service center most likely will not allow you to stay in the vehicle while it's in their garage overnight.
The air conditioning in the vehicles are not conducive to electronics while in a high humidity area, for they are glorified window AC units. All they do is cool the air and TRY to pull the moisture out of it, but not really succeeding.
Sure, they may look great but to be really a place to house your systems in, you actually have to increase your housing budget by a small factor to cover the extra things. Beefier wiring, more outlets, dehumidification, a better refrigerator than the slow and ice up like a ship in the north sea ammonia units.
By the time you get done, you'll have something like the emergency response vehicles that the larger metro poilce forces are using for mobile command posts. All electronics and few luxuries.
Ever try to fit anything into a JetRanger? You can't hardly fit standard carryon luggage into that thing without using a shoe horn! Much less anything else, like a 10-speed, or a femur from a T-Rex... The thing encased inside the plaster cast must have displaced the helo's center of gravity so much that they had to break the bloody thing into several pieces and make more than one trip.
Odds are that the helo in question did not have a belly hook, or carrying hardware for slinging loads under it. Or else the pilot was not qualified for flying underslung payloads.
I recall seeing something similiar in a Popular Science mag, back in the classifieds for a miracle efficiency improver that uses magnets to clean up the ethane and octane chains in your gas.
Heh.
When you have oceanfront property in Missouri to sell me, let me know.
I already uninstalled my AIM and done gone somewhere else with my IMing.
Their PR parrots and Legals should have collaborated BEFORE they opened their big mouths on this matter. Now they are having to play catchup, in a BIG way.
Bad timing aoHell. In this day and age, that kind of legal play can lose you a couple of million users as fast as your CSRs (customer service reps) can field them.
It's rather hard not to miss any of my rebates, since I use 24 point type Times New Roman BOLD on the PDF copy of the rebate form. Or simply stuff the ticket into a typewriter and fill it out using clear and ledgible characters.
I feel that it is the manufacture's responsibility to fulfill the requirement(s) that these rebates promise.
The retailer's responsibility is that they allow for a longer time interval for when the manufacture issues the rebate for ANY product until the logical last day deadline. This seems to trip up alot of people when they see rebates advertised on a Sunday flyer, for some put up the offers only a few days before the deadline. So everyone rushes to buy the product to send in for the rebate.
If the retailer is the originating point for the rebate offers, all of the above apply to them, hands down.
ALWAYS! read the fine print on these rebates or any other item that seems to be too good to be true. If the fine print is not there, feel free to go up to the service desk at the retailer and ask for a copy of the fine print for the rebate offer in question. If they waffle about it or they don't have a copy, then take a look at the manufacturer's website to see if they posted it there.
If not, move along folks, nothing to see here but a fraudster at work...
Been down this road with the spoofed HOSTS file and went ten rounds with the hosting provider on this matter, until I dropped the hammer on them with a nice note to the banks in question.. Now I doubt that any hosting provider would want a International Incident for not pulling a phishing site in a timely manner, don't you think? Or are they simply too mercenary to ignore the risks or getting their root DNS blocklisted by the big boys?
The question is not as of when will the guillotine fall, it's how high will it be before it does.
Considering SCO's screwups and legal wranglings, i'd say that the height will be stratospheric and more than a few heads will be in the stocks when it falls.
The quarter fell edge on today!
Usually, when the FCC passes jugement, it's usually for SIGs (special interest groups) that are sponsored by either big bells, or politicos.
But today, Vonage got the better of a baby bell, and now THIS! ^.^
I'm right proud of our political system.. It maybe creaky and downright questionable at times, but when it does work, DAMM, nice things do happen!
Now i'm surprised at that, considering that they reserved a IP address for two lines of HTML and some javascripting. They seemed not to give a damm about a phishing site being on their system.
I ran across a phishing site on a client's system while cleaning it up. The HOSTS file had 6 entries in it, redirecting any requests for 5 British banks and one Brazilan banco, to a IP at EV1.net. I busted my ass in a effort to get EV1.net's support team and administrative suits to pull the IP, but all I got was canned replies: "Forward the information to the abuse department". So I did so.
Two weeks passed, and EV1.net did not take any action whatsoever. So, I sent the report to the big Brit banks, which included The Bank of England, Barclays, and the legendary Lloyds. I got immediate replies, personal ones, NOT canned, that they would immediately take legal action agianst the offending CSP.
I checked the IP shortly after receiving the replies and got a DNS error.
It seems to me that EV1.net, which is based in Houston, has merc tendencies when it comes to site hosting.
Naw, they would not go as far as modifying the power output without putting some sort of major notice on the system.
I believe that Micron tried something like that once, departing from the AT standard at the time. They caught hell for it and were forced to switch back to the old standard.
Same went for Packard Hell (Bell) and their little powerpacks.. $100+ US for a power supply? Forget it.
Also considering that "value" intel boards do NOT have a AGP slot soldered on them.
grrrr...
Just got done tangling with a Dell system that got it's onboard VGA plug ripped out (idiot customer didnt unscrew the thumbscrews before he yanked).
I got a wild idea about putting a MSI board into the case, only to discover that the mounting holes on the backplane do NOT match up with the HSF holes for the mounting bracket.
I sat back, cussed and stewed over this, only to come to a conclusion that Intel and Dell did a backroom agreement that they would alter the design for the HSF mounting points to keep any customer from doing a swapout of the mainboard without doing some major surgery. Fortunately I went and got a HSF from a local supplier and pretty much bypassed most of the BS that is inside a dell case.
This looks like that it was no accident, the backplane is 2 centimeters to the right of the holes on the MSI board. If you think that i'm full of it, there are TWO sets of HSF mounting holes on the backplane that are pretty much set up for certain intel boards. None of the P4 boards I have will match up with them.
I already got a copy off of the usenet feeds that is 1000X better than the joke of a media format that they call real.
Is the reference to Thor what i'm thinking of? IF it aint, then email me for the URL and i'll send it to you..
#8s? nonono.... #4 buck 3.5" magnums.
bah.. Gimme a double-fox 12 gauge and let's be done with it. This guy's a small-timer that needs to be put out of our misery.
And pray that the rest of the UPS is in good shape.. The ones i've ran across have gotten the silicon kicked out of them, either fried relays or their surge protection practially vaporized by numerous power surges.
Serves you right. :p
Just got done trying to work on a 4 year old HP pavillion that has voltage drops on it's power supply. Told the customer to go get a new system, despite her protests that it was only 4 years old..
Heh..
I'm sticking with the "old-school" printers until this situation blows over so I can chuck this dammed lexmark into the can.
{snip}
I'm with you on your conclusion. The chip at current limiting gives you about 7.5 Watts, not 120 Watts or anything close. I have a night light for the kids that put out the same heat he could have gotten.
{/snip}
And I got a easy-bake oven that uses a 100 watt lamp that will do the same.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/ezbake.shtml
On a side note, me and my fellow geeks here in the office debated about how to build a microwave oven into a case. But that got shot full of holes due to the energy required, the shielding needed to keep the PC's electronics from being scrambled,
and the power surge that a micro creates when it turns on, which is rather excessive. Oh, did I mention it's added WEIGHT? 20lbs for the transformer itself!
And the safety that is required when tangling with microwave energy of such magnitude (two door switches that will blow the micro's fuse if they are not in agreement), the heating chamber itself, the door, it's gasketing, and the power that the transformer and magnetron generates when running at a full head of steam.
Too dammed scary for me when all that adds up.
Of course, when big business is losing a case, you know that they will fight it tooth and nail to the bitter end. Then turn right back around and introdice some kind of process that will bypass the court's judgement. Then the whole dammed cycle will start back up agian!
Heheheh, that was a plug on Stargate, SG1. There was this Ancient that was placed under Major (now Lt. Colonel) Carter's care. He built his own stargate out of two appliances, a couple grand of gadgets that he bought using her credit card (ouch!), and got away before the pentagon's goons could get ahold of him.
Get me a toaster, a microwave oven, a couple of 20 megawatt YAG lasers, and i'll whip up a stargate in nothing flat!