Even with a dictionary you fail to grasp the meaning of "unlimited"?
Maybe you could explain it? Before there was no limit. ATT gave me a phone that could stream Youtube with an app pre-installed for example to stream video. No limit.
Now, if they throttle the bandwidth part way threw the month I am "limited" in that I can no longer stream video using the Youtube app they gave me. But they told me I could stream as much Youtube as I wanted!
Seems like a restriction or a condition. Hence it goes against the definition of unlimited, no? I realize, there is still no limit on data. But I didn't buy unlimited data, I bought "Unlimited 3G Speed!" and the amazing things they told me I could do on their network if I went with them. They are limiting a bunch of the activities I can possibly do partway through the month. Hench the things they said were unlimited before are no longer unlimited.
They are not limiting your ACCESS, just your speed.
Are you serious??
Yes, they are limiting your access. Maybe not limiting the "quantity", but they ARE limiting your ACCESS.
Read again what ATT writes again on their website:
Stay connected anytime, all the time. For a low monthly fee, Messaging & Data Unlimited gives you unlimited text, picture, video, and instant messaging, as well as unlimited access to mobile Web, search, email, apps, and more.
Ok, so if they throttle your speed then you "no longer" have access to stream video or maybe even audio. How can you say that is not limiting ACCESS?
There's some obscure stuff on Spotify that is really easy to find. Remastered stuff that you can't easily find anywhere else, etc. Takes a few seconds on Spotify and may take a long while searching for the torrent if it even exists. Not saying I recommend it for everything, but was responding to the poster that said you can't record.
And no, you can't record the incoming music as it's streamed over an encrypted session or from the local cache, which is also encrypted. The key to decrypt the data is only availble online from their servers and not stored by the client software.
I guess you mean you can't "save" the stream?
You can certainly record it as is streams in. Just grab Audacity, select Stereo mix, and Record to your hearts content.
How legal is this? I don't know, I mean, it's streaming to my computer so I guess I can save it. It's like recording a TV show on a VCR tape right?
Not even taking electronics into account, speakers back then seem to have been better. Everything was had at least 2 10" woofers, mids and tweeters. Now you get this crap subwoofers, and then two crap cubes for the rest of your sound? Hard to find good speakers without spending a lot of money. I remember being able to by even Sony big box speakers at regular stores ~15 years ago.
Thank you. I like 3d. I pretty much only pay to see movies now that are 3d. I get it that people don't like 3d and that's fine so then don't see them. To me when they are don properly it adds a lot to the movie. Makes you feel a like you are a part of it. When I see a move in 2d these days it feels like something is missing.
Does it make sense that you can get a physical DVD for $1, but to stream it you pay $5.99?
RedBox has costs including millions of discs, 10s of 1000s of kiosks, employees all over the country to physically drive and stock the machines.
Companies like Comcast and Netflix basically already have the infrastructure just sitting there to wipe out Blockbuster and RedBox and anybody else out if they offered $1 movies. Plus it seems like the % profits on $1 streamed movies would be way higher vs RedBox with it's physical costs.
Is this something being blocked by the old studio type execs or am I missing something? I know there are costs with streaming, but it can't be anywhere near what they are to run 25,000+ RedBox kiosks at $1 a rental can it?
And we need to send them to Mars to do that? I'm not saying we are not doing great science sending rovers to Mars. And I'm not saying that I'm not on the edge of my seat watching the pictures and videos come in. But, cost and time (years of my life too) it takes to send them , as well as to learn stuff like landing rovers and creating rovers that can remotely build buildings on remote places is a fraction of the time on the moon.
I kind of feel like the rovers have been so successful that they've killed that human spirit of actual exploration. Yeah, the rovers can do pretty much everything as you say, but there's something missing. I think a lot people are left satisfied with that, but maybe humanity is missing out not taking that next step off the planet. Though I'm sure we'll get there eventually I was just hoping to see it in my lifetime.
I never understood what is so exciting about Mars. It's fairly far away. Start close. We should have a small colony on the Moon by now. We should be there learning how to do it right now. Once we get it figured out close to home, let's actually go to Mars instead of just sending rover after rover.
No. Kids playing with AI that is as smart as a humans will not make them smarter than if they were kids playing with people that "are" actually human. We've been doing that for a while now.;)
Is there anybody here that has a had a great idea, physical or software, but not brought it to fruition "because" of the patent system? Because of the headaches of the process or even just the thought of the slight chance of being sued in to oblivion?
I read the article, but I don't really understand what they mean by "scanning in" 10 billion files in 43 minutes. Is this just copying? Is this "scanning in" in the traditional sense like from paper? Maybe I missed something reading through it I guess.
ha ha!
1. Do you require a Google account in order to use/initialize your Android phone?
If so, that would seem to present some difficulties for Kenya, or is that not required for certain countries?
Forget requiring a google account wouldn't these require a "Cell Tower"? How many of those are in Kenya? ;)
Actually, I think Nairobi is fairly modern with over 3 million people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nairobi_NIGHT.jpg
Even with a dictionary you fail to grasp the meaning of "unlimited"?
Maybe you could explain it? Before there was no limit. ATT gave me a phone that could stream Youtube with an app pre-installed for example to stream video. No limit.
Now, if they throttle the bandwidth part way threw the month I am "limited" in that I can no longer stream video using the Youtube app they gave me. But they told me I could stream as much Youtube as I wanted!
Seems like a restriction or a condition. Hence it goes against the definition of unlimited, no? I realize, there is still no limit on data. But I didn't buy unlimited data, I bought "Unlimited 3G Speed!" and the amazing things they told me I could do on their network if I went with them. They are limiting a bunch of the activities I can possibly do partway through the month. Hench the things they said were unlimited before are no longer unlimited.
They are not limiting your ACCESS, just your speed.
Are you serious??
Yes, they are limiting your access. Maybe not limiting the "quantity", but they ARE limiting your ACCESS.
Read again what ATT writes again on their website:
Stay connected anytime, all the time. For a low monthly fee, Messaging & Data Unlimited gives you unlimited text, picture, video, and instant messaging, as well as unlimited access to mobile Web, search, email, apps, and more.
Ok, so if they throttle your speed then you "no longer" have access to stream video or maybe even audio. How can you say that is not limiting ACCESS?
There's some obscure stuff on Spotify that is really easy to find. Remastered stuff that you can't easily find anywhere else, etc. Takes a few seconds on Spotify and may take a long while searching for the torrent if it even exists. Not saying I recommend it for everything, but was responding to the poster that said you can't record.
Plus it may be legal this way.
And no, you can't record the incoming music as it's streamed over an encrypted session or from the local cache, which is also encrypted. The key to decrypt the data is only availble online from their servers and not stored by the client software.
I guess you mean you can't "save" the stream?
You can certainly record it as is streams in. Just grab Audacity, select Stereo mix, and Record to your hearts content.
How legal is this? I don't know, I mean, it's streaming to my computer so I guess I can save it. It's like recording a TV show on a VCR tape right?
NASA or the Syfy channel?
Not even taking electronics into account, speakers back then seem to have been better. Everything was had at least 2 10" woofers, mids and tweeters. Now you get this crap subwoofers, and then two crap cubes for the rest of your sound? Hard to find good speakers without spending a lot of money. I remember being able to by even Sony big box speakers at regular stores ~15 years ago.
Thank you. I like 3d. I pretty much only pay to see movies now that are 3d. I get it that people don't like 3d and that's fine so then don't see them. To me when they are don properly it adds a lot to the movie. Makes you feel a like you are a part of it. When I see a move in 2d these days it feels like something is missing.
I'm totally screwed if I lose my phone. I handle my phone security like I do my data backups. I'll worry about once it's too late.
Yeah, I've been reading about this since I was a kid. Holographic storage is almost here!
Exactly, and does that mean it would be impossible to launch a Soyuz rocket from the south pole?
Does it make sense that you can get a physical DVD for $1, but to stream it you pay $5.99?
RedBox has costs including millions of discs, 10s of 1000s of kiosks, employees all over the country to physically drive and stock the machines.
Companies like Comcast and Netflix basically already have the infrastructure just sitting there to wipe out Blockbuster and RedBox and anybody else out if they offered $1 movies. Plus it seems like the % profits on $1 streamed movies would be way higher vs RedBox with it's physical costs.
Is this something being blocked by the old studio type execs or am I missing something? I know there are costs with streaming, but it can't be anywhere near what they are to run 25,000+ RedBox kiosks at $1 a rental can it?
And we need to send them to Mars to do that? I'm not saying we are not doing great science sending rovers to Mars. And I'm not saying that I'm not on the edge of my seat watching the pictures and videos come in. But, cost and time (years of my life too) it takes to send them , as well as to learn stuff like landing rovers and creating rovers that can remotely build buildings on remote places is a fraction of the time on the moon.
Not alot to do on the moon...
or mars for that matter
...or North Dakota
Anyway on the Moon... Tourism? Drive around those kick as 6 wheeled moon rovers?
If I had a choice between North Dakota and the Moon for vacation, I'd choose the Moon.
I kind of feel like the rovers have been so successful that they've killed that human spirit of actual exploration. Yeah, the rovers can do pretty much everything as you say, but there's something missing. I think a lot people are left satisfied with that, but maybe humanity is missing out not taking that next step off the planet. Though I'm sure we'll get there eventually I was just hoping to see it in my lifetime.
I never understood what is so exciting about Mars. It's fairly far away. Start close. We should have a small colony on the Moon by now. We should be there learning how to do it right now. Once we get it figured out close to home, let's actually go to Mars instead of just sending rover after rover.
No. Kids playing with AI that is as smart as a humans will not make them smarter than if they were kids playing with people that "are" actually human. We've been doing that for a while now. ;)
Yeah, well.. first, "Get your ass to mars!"
Nice. Will they be handing out copies of Photoshop, Maya, or Lightwave by chance?
I hope somebody didn't pay for this research. 20lbs of garbage of is "less" than 50lbs or garbage? Wow.
Is there anybody here that has a had a great idea, physical or software, but not brought it to fruition "because" of the patent system? Because of the headaches of the process or even just the thought of the slight chance of being sued in to oblivion?
For "Prior Art" Alex.
Damn you Trebeck!
I read the article, but I don't really understand what they mean by "scanning in" 10 billion files in 43 minutes. Is this just copying? Is this "scanning in" in the traditional sense like from paper? Maybe I missed something reading through it I guess.
Hard to be impressed otherwise.
That and Unite is free.
I notice that at the bottom of the Google Music page is says:
"Music Beta is available free for a limited time."
Anybody know what the service is going to cost?