I think that sentiment is rooted in the hope that the courts will rule this was a completely frivolous action and therefore deserving of a decent knuckle-rap.
"I think you're assuming that the signal between the computer and the monitor will be analog. For this to work, it would likely be an encrypted digital stream that would take more then even a fourth year EE to decode."
And if they do the DMCA will be there to put the smack down on them.
Perhaps so. And then only people living in countries with sane laws will be able to exercise their fair use rights and have clear video at the same time.
Microsoft did not beat Netscape on product quality as much as illegal monopolizing tactics. Your argument by analogy breaks down here. This time, Microsoft does not have any obvious way to fix its problems by gaming the system, which may help explain why, two years after promises that everything was going to change, Microsoft is still flopping around like a fish out of water in the security space.
Unable to game the legal system, Microsoft resorts to gaming Slashdot's moderation system. How the mighty have fallen.
Let us just hope, for the internet and personal computing's sake, that Microsoft doesn't blow it and charge for them.
No, for personal computing's sake, let's hope that Microsoft continues to blow it. Poor security is just the first item on the top of the pile re why Microsoft is bad for the internet and bad for the economy in general.
How about actively subverting common standards? How about making customers submit to a strip search in order to install a new modem?
Microsoft continuing to blow it is the clearly the best gift it can possibly give the internet and personal computing, after all it has taken away.
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Flash-forward to a couple of years ago, when Bill sent out yet another all-hands memo, pointing the company in the direction of security. At first, we all laughed. But now it's becoming more and more obvious that they're taking security every bit as seriously as they once took the Internet. They are aiming to be the top of the heap in security, and they've got drive, ambition and aggression.
Microsoft did not beat Netscape on product quality as much as illegal monopolizing tactics. Your argument by analogy breaks down here. This time, Microsoft does not have any obvious way to fix its problems by gaming the system, which may help explain why, two years after promises that everything was going to change, Microsoft is still flopping around like a fish out of water in the security space.
You don't get upset when someone points out a bug in your code?
Never. I thank them and mumble some lame excuse for missing it myself. (E.g., that's why we have "other eyes".) If it's nontrivial, I may compliment them as well if that seems appropriate.
What gets me upset is ugly unreadable buggy junk with no good design basis, that is defended on a territorial basis.
I see what you are trying to say, but it really isn't the case. There is no paying for Media Player, its "free".
You did not see what he was trying to say. The price of Media Player is built into every computer you buy that comes with Windows. Whether it comes with Media Player or not.
Furthermore, WMP is not free. Microsoft paid for it and Microsoft will make you pay for it in turn.
I've been saying from the begining that this whole plan is moronic. The EU is demanding that Microsoft make a product that no one could possibly want, that can only be less functional and stable than normal Windows and that Microsoft has every reason to make work badly!
Yes, the EU is crazy like a fox. It has successfully established the principle that it may compell Microsoft to obey an order to make technical changes to its products in order to cure a monopoly abuse. If the particular technical change ordered is not adequate to address the particular abuse, this should provide no comfort to Microsoft. If anything, it supports the argument that stronger measures are required.
Why should a government not be able to use technical means to correct a monopoly abuse, since Microsoft commonly uses technical means to carry out the abuse? The EU has simply stripped away Microsoft's favorite fig leaf. Further monopoly complaints will not doubt materialize in the EU, especially if no material changes result from the current round.
Goody for you. When you and your friends who think like you are enough of a market share for them to care, their practices will change. Have fun.
Yes, and then the world will be a better place even for you, an apparent good-for-nothing who has little better to do with his time than lampoon the good works of others.
Daniel, you mean it is better for you... right? I can understand that, and while there are a few things I've liked about using the FreeBSD or gentoo "system" I wouldn't think say it's better for most people... you being far from most people.
In my experience so far, Gentoo has given me the most dependable, hassle-free, non-system-breaking upgrades of any distribution I have tried. I do not see why that is a bad thing for anybody.
The Gentoo package management system seems to be more highly evolved than e.g., Apt, the previous best-of-breed.
Yeah, call him names! That'll make his points and arguments mean less.
What arguments? That he was incapable of realizing that ALSA does support running multiple OSS applications in parallel and that he should consider tossing XMMS in favor of a sound player that supports ALSA?
I'm afraid he does come across as more of a whiner than a 'leet hacker.
For me, MacOS X truly combines the best of the open source and proprietary worlds. I can use a slick and stable GUI, running all the slickest proprietary applications such as Final Cut Pro and Photoshop. On the same machine I can also run all the open source web software I could ever want. And I can even copy that software and have it run fine on a Linux server without missing a beat. So I know exactly where JWZ's coming from, and it's interesting that we followed such a similar path. I joined Apple before he did probably mainly due to my need for proprietary software like Final Cut and Photoshop.
I salute Apple for continuing to push the envelope in designer guis. Nonetheless, Apple is still closed source, has a smaller developer army than Linux, is not as adaptable as Linux, and is falling further and further behind Linux in desktop adoption. Got to be a story in there, hmm?
I have a Canon S520 printer... Sometimes its easier to swap your hardware than argue with it.
Google reveals that TurboPrint supports your printer. Binary-only freeware support is no worse that Windows and arguably better because all the these drivers are maintained by the same company, but open specifications and supported source code drivers are obviously more desirable.
I suppose that Canon will eventually realize the importance of providing good Linux support as HP did. In the meantime I agree with your tactic of voting with your dollars and avoiding Canon. HP gets it, get an HP printer.
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Because by inducing him to breach his contract with Microsoft, Google is committing the tort of interference.
Assuming that Microsoft's contract is binding in the state of California, or indeed, in China.
"I would have to say he is the second-most incompetant technical columnist that has ever graced this world"
Who is the most? Jerry Pournelle or Daniel Lyons?
Still running out of the box Linux on one machine, complete with KDE, Firefox Openoffice and antialiased fonts, on a 1995 era AMD K6.
I don't think MS wan't to be in on the content-provision side
Microsoft wants to tax the content providers.
I think that sentiment is rooted in the hope that the courts will rule this was a completely frivolous action and therefore deserving of a decent knuckle-rap.
Why is it not stock fraud?
"I think you're assuming that the signal between the computer and the monitor will be analog. For this to work, it would likely be an encrypted digital stream that would take more then even a fourth year EE to decode."
And if they do the DMCA will be there to put the smack down on them.
Perhaps so. And then only people living in countries with sane laws will be able to exercise their fair use rights and have clear video at the same time.
And if the BBC paid for the performance and did the recording they can do whatever they want with it right?
In particular, give it back to the people who paid for it in the first place.
For some reason, the British Government has been a great supporter of Microsoft. The results are predictable.
Microsoft did not beat Netscape on product quality as much as illegal monopolizing tactics. Your argument by analogy breaks down here. This time, Microsoft does not have any obvious way to fix its problems by gaming the system, which may help explain why, two years after promises that everything was going to change, Microsoft is still flopping around like a fish out of water in the security space.
Unable to game the legal system, Microsoft resorts to gaming Slashdot's moderation system. How the mighty have fallen.
Let us just hope, for the internet and personal computing's sake, that Microsoft doesn't blow it and charge for them.
No, for personal computing's sake, let's hope that Microsoft continues to blow it. Poor security is just the first item on the top of the pile re why Microsoft is bad for the internet and bad for the economy in general.
How about actively subverting common standards? How about making customers submit to a strip search in order to install a new modem?
Microsoft continuing to blow it is the clearly the best gift it can possibly give the internet and personal computing, after all it has taken away.
Flash-forward to a couple of years ago, when Bill sent out yet another all-hands memo, pointing the company in the direction of security. At first, we all laughed. But now it's becoming more and more obvious that they're taking security every bit as seriously as they once took the Internet. They are aiming to be the top of the heap in security, and they've got drive, ambition and aggression.
Microsoft did not beat Netscape on product quality as much as illegal monopolizing tactics. Your argument by analogy breaks down here. This time, Microsoft does not have any obvious way to fix its problems by gaming the system, which may help explain why, two years after promises that everything was going to change, Microsoft is still flopping around like a fish out of water in the security space.
You don't get upset when someone points out a bug in your code?
Never. I thank them and mumble some lame excuse for missing it myself. (E.g., that's why we have "other eyes".) If it's nontrivial, I may compliment them as well if that seems appropriate.
What gets me upset is ugly unreadable buggy junk with no good design basis, that is defended on a territorial basis.
I see what you are trying to say, but it really isn't the case. There is no paying for Media Player, its "free".
You did not see what he was trying to say. The price of Media Player is built into every computer you buy that comes with Windows. Whether it comes with Media Player or not.
Furthermore, WMP is not free. Microsoft paid for it and Microsoft will make you pay for it in turn.
I've been saying from the begining that this whole plan is moronic. The EU is demanding that Microsoft make a product that no one could possibly want, that can only be less functional and stable than normal Windows and that Microsoft has every reason to make work badly!
Yes, the EU is crazy like a fox. It has successfully established the principle that it may compell Microsoft to obey an order to make technical changes to its products in order to cure a monopoly abuse. If the particular technical change ordered is not adequate to address the particular abuse, this should provide no comfort to Microsoft. If anything, it supports the argument that stronger measures are required.
Why should a government not be able to use technical means to correct a monopoly abuse, since Microsoft commonly uses technical means to carry out the abuse? The EU has simply stripped away Microsoft's favorite fig leaf. Further monopoly complaints will not doubt materialize in the EU, especially if no material changes result from the current round.
Goody for you. When you and your friends who think like you are enough of a market share for them to care, their practices will change. Have fun.
Yes, and then the world will be a better place even for you, an apparent good-for-nothing who has little better to do with his time than lampoon the good works of others.
Daniel, you mean it is better for you ... right? I can understand that, and while there are a few things I've liked about using the FreeBSD or gentoo "system" I wouldn't think say it's better for most people ... you being far from most people.
In my experience so far, Gentoo has given me the most dependable, hassle-free, non-system-breaking upgrades of any distribution I have tried. I do not see why that is a bad thing for anybody.
The Gentoo package management system seems to be more highly evolved than e.g., Apt, the previous best-of-breed.
If Linux meets or beats Apple's market share...
Linux has already surpassed Apple's market share and the gap is widening.
Right, gentoo was better
Correction: Gentoo is better. Robbins leaving the project does not change that. If in fact he has left, did anybody ask him?
It is famously hard to make a buck peddling a filesystem. That Hans has made it this far is a credit to his drive and acumen.
Namesys is also having payroll problems, though our problem is more due to my divorce than anything else.
Hi Hans,
Well I hope you make it through, you deserve it. Marry a rich girl!
Regards,
Daniel
I am far more interested in microsoft "playing nice" then I am hoping for their destruction.
Microsoft will never play nice as long as it is run by men who think that laws apply to others, not themselves.
Yeah, call him names! That'll make his points and arguments mean less.
What arguments? That he was incapable of realizing that ALSA does support running multiple OSS applications in parallel and that he should consider tossing XMMS in favor of a sound player that supports ALSA?
I'm afraid he does come across as more of a whiner than a 'leet hacker.
For me, MacOS X truly combines the best of the open source and proprietary worlds. I can use a slick and stable GUI, running all the slickest proprietary applications such as Final Cut Pro and Photoshop. On the same machine I can also run all the open source web software I could ever want. And I can even copy that software and have it run fine on a Linux server without missing a beat. So I know exactly where JWZ's coming from, and it's interesting that we followed such a similar path. I joined Apple before he did probably mainly due to my need for proprietary software like Final Cut and Photoshop.
I salute Apple for continuing to push the envelope in designer guis. Nonetheless, Apple is still closed source, has a smaller developer army than Linux, is not as adaptable as Linux, and is falling further and further behind Linux in desktop adoption. Got to be a story in there, hmm?
OS X just 'stole' a Linux developer by being easier to set up sound cards.
OS X just stole a burned-out whiner that not everybody agrees was ever particularly good, you mean.
I have a Canon S520 printer... Sometimes its easier to swap your hardware than argue with it.
Google reveals that TurboPrint supports your printer. Binary-only freeware support is no worse that Windows and arguably better because all the these drivers are maintained by the same company, but open specifications and supported source code drivers are obviously more desirable.
I suppose that Canon will eventually realize the importance of providing good Linux support as HP did. In the meantime I agree with your tactic of voting with your dollars and avoiding Canon. HP gets it, get an HP printer.